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[Exiledone1]

stargatefan1990 wrote...

Exiledone1 wrote...

SavageLycan wrote...

My thoughts are pretty much the same as most of the people here, but I just want to reinforce the problems a lot of people have with the ending and add to the discourse. Call it beating a dead horse, but I just want to Hold the Line.

I want to say that I have no problem with bad endings or tragic endings; only the fact that EVERY ending is a bad/tragic one that completely murders the lore and future of Mass Effect. Just one ending where the allied powers win at heavy cost, the relays are still intact, and people can at least look forward to some sort of spacefaring future after massive rebuilding is good enough for me. If I knew that there was at least one truly "good" ending I could get, that offers some degree of hope, I would gladly do other Shepards to get the other sad/bad endings knowing that the option to really save the galaxy was there. I would replay Mass Effect 3 forever. As it is now, I have no impetus to replay any of the games or play any prequel games knowing that the galaxy is doomed regardless and that none of my decision made any difference in the eyes of the God Child.

Some closure on the fates of your friends and allies, and the galaxy as a whole in general would be nice too. Gilligan's Planet just makes my head (and heart) hurt, as does the ending epilogue. I have nothing against Colonel Aldrin (tons of respect in fact), but him giving a very vague reference to everything that has happened with no elaboration on the state of the galaxy afterwards is no ending.

Anyway, my two cents.

Well said. Sometimes people just want the happy ending. Show us Shep and the fleet winning the war, show us life for the crew a few years in the future. What are they doing, are they happy, did shep and Tali get married? Did Garrius ever get home to his sick mother. Did the Quarians rebuild their homeworld. Did the Krogan end up having peace? Its the conclusion for the characters we want more than anything.

Oh and not have them stuck on  a planet. Not have more questions than answers. This is the end so we need resolution and answers not more questions. Shep and his crew deserve some peace. Hell, maybe they all get together for a huge party to celebrate the reapers being taken down. Who knows. I just want Sheperd to live happily ever after and settle down with Tali, have a kid and let that kid be the start of mass effect 4: A new era haha

Mass effect 4: Shepards kid! the highschool years, Bully: "My daddy bet up 4 people at once" (insert name) shepard: "well my daddy defeated Rediculously high number of cerberus, Krogan, oh and not to mention lots and lots of Reapers" . Bully speechless

LAMO....I needed a good laugh after this ending haha. I wouldn't mind seeing his kid pick up the mantle really. A lot of emotions could be used. How could I ever live up to my dad legacies, will I be as good, emails on the Normandy 7 lol from Dad and Tali, if that who you romanced lol. Good one

[Lawliet89]

Dessalines wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

Alex-_- wrote...

Don't know if this has been posted already but this shows how mass effect 3's ending could have been so much more than it was

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg

Oh my god that image is fantastic. If that had been the way it worked out I would have NO complaints (take note Bioware). If they were to consider overwriting the endings rather than taking the idoctrination theory and running with it, that's a great framework for it.

Is this legit? I mean if it is, then why is the world would they change it.

It's a fan's mockup. Not what happens.

[KermitTheFragger]

Dessalines wrote...

Is this legit? I mean if it is, then why is the world would they change it.

No its just an idea pitched by a fan, sorry to burst your bubble ;-)

[jeweledleah]

maideltq wrote...


Well, the Geth decision was a decision and why not pay for it? and see the repercussion of our decitions.....
At least these endings make sense....and have repercusion to our decision made before the final battle...
The blue, Green and Red doesn't even make sense at all!!!

PLEASE Bioware, I'm willing to wait, give time...and even pay for a full glorious ending to ME saga..............SURPRISE US!!!

I agree that  pick your color explosion ending doesn't make sence, but I strongly disagree with the premise "only one right choice"  sure you should have to pay for chosing Geth over quarians.  but you should get benefits too.  same for chosing quarians over Geth.  and if you manage to save both - you get benefits of both, and keep it difficult to accomplish/dependant  on prior choices.

Genophage is an example of choices and consequences done outstandingly well IMO (and then of course, you see nothing come out of it, but that's not the point)  if you cure Genophage, you lose salarian support and Mordin.  if you fake out cure - you keep salarians, but lose Krogan and both Wrex and Mordin die.  if you made certain specifc choice in game 1 and 2 (or started non import)  you can convince Mordin to fake the cure and you keep support of both, but long term conseuqences for Krogan?  look pretty bad and there's a high chance of war starting up again, once they figure out they have been decieved after reapers are gone (and seeing that in epilogue would have been pretty awesome).  every choice has its benefits and its drawbacks and its up to Shepard to decide just how ruthless they wan to be and what they want to happen in a future.

its similar to picking dwarven king in a way.  pick Bhelen and more dwarves die innitialy, including entire Harrowmont family, but the society stabilizes better.  pick Harrowmont, and you have fewer innitial deaths, but because he's not ruthless enough, unrest begins.

[Farseer1989]

I just finished the game, watched some other endings on youtube and right now
........
i don't know what to say realy. It's hard to dircribe.


Ok, let's start with the good ones.
I frickin love your games. ME 1 to 3 one very high on my awesome-game-list.
The chooses, the charakters, the story, everything.
Right now hearing if i hear the final speech of ME 2 during the suicide mission or the one
on earth right befor the last mission in the game, i could cry so awesome and emotional it is.
I got tali as romace in ME2 and to quote "it was worth it"
(i could write more about what i did and liked but now the hard part)


The ending(s) is bad, realy bad in my opinion.
It makes no sence at all, it goes against established lore and charakters
3 Solutions with no backgroundinfo about the solution and so on.
The boys apperence as the AI on the citadel....... just a big "WHAT THE HELL?"
Joker and the crew stranded on a platet (and most likely dying ther)

i am so diapointed right now and unsatisfied.
please, please, please at least explane why you did this or better make a new ending (i know that the last one is kind of, well unlikely)

Thake you for reading
Sorry if i missspelt something

p.S. i just red the hallucination-theory of the ending, that shepard is still on earth in front of the beam and just passed out. Right now i want to believe thats true. On the other side, if that means that ther is a real ending to come, via DLC, don't let me pay any money for it, cause otherwise you are then just an other greedy company. I'm sorry for the last words but that is what i think

Modifié par Farseer1989, 18 mars 2012 - 09:54 .

[xxskyshadowxx]

Xervek wrote...

From Mass Effect 1 to 3 it is like buying a car which is worth 500.000 €, $, ... get it from the car salesman, drive home and the street before you arrive you total the car...

I agree with the article where the 5 reasons are written down why the ending is so amazing! Thanks BioWare!

We didn't total the car though....it's more like it's was an awesome-looking car that handled like a dream,....the ride home was smoothe and satisfying and riiiiiiight before you pulled into the driveway, the whole thing fell apart while you were sitting in the middle of it, because it wasn't constructed properly from start to finish. So, now you're left with the scrapped junkpile remnants of that awesome car, that you have to try and piece back together on your own, or with the help of others apart from the manufacturer, and you wonder why you bought the damn thing to begin with.

[jfruelas521]

Hello Bioware,

Allow me to first like to congratulate you for being one of the premier game development companies in the world, and my personal favorite. Your games have filled my life with many hours of happiness and entertainment. Having said that, I, like many others, did not enjoy the ending to Mass Effect 3, which is putting it mildly.

The purpose of this post is to provide some honest consumer feedback about your product. I fully understand that Mass Effect is your product and you have the right to create in whatever way you see fit. However, with such a community outcry, I believe it is a fair statement to say that the product can be made better. I firmly believe that you need to look at this situation as an opportunity. You shipped a game that did not did not quite meet consumer expectations, though it was still an outstanding game. The opportunity here is to address the consumer complaint and rewrite the ending. Rewriting an ending to a game is rare, but not unprecedented, even for triple-A titles. Responding to consumer criticism is natural for any company and simply because the game has already shipped should not dissuade you from taking actions to address those criticisms. The great benefit to digital distribution is that you can release a new ending with relatively minimal expense. From a business standpoint, the revenue and consumer loyalty you would gain should outweigh the resources you have to put into such a venture.

I will end this post with a summary of my personal feelings regarding your company and product. Please note that these are my own opinions. My confidence in your company's products has been severely shaken. Before the closing moments of ME3, I did not think this was even remotely possible as they stood at an all-time high. Going forward, games will not be an automatic purchase simply because they have the Bioware label on them, as they were previously. Moreover, I can 100% guarantee you that I will not purchase any non-free DLC for ME3 without a new ending being written and distributed. I strongly encourage your to consider rewriting the ending. Such a gesture on your part will surely be met with great appreciation by the community and myself.

Thank you for your time.

[ConradsLaces]

EDIT - removed text.

I posted my wallof text from an independant post I made... didn't look to see the response, thought I had copied my new reply, for this thread, but clipboard didn't cooperate.

Apologies for Wall of Text spam.

Modifié par ConradsLaces, 17 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[slc08]

 I was never much of a gamer until someone introduced me, I've been a gamer ever since.  I fell in love with the Mass Effect story and have played the first two games more then once.  But this last one was disappointing.  I just beat it last night and I was mad the entire night.  I just don't understand why anyone would end the series like that.  I worked really hard and did all the other missions so that I would have a good ending and I didn't even have the option.  The whole game was so wonderful and so moving in certain parts, that this ending has left bitter taste in my mouth.  I'm sad because I don't even want to play any of them again, because of how it ends.  I'm begging you, Bioware, please don't let this wonderful story and series end this way.  Please listen to the pleas of your fans and do right by us.
SLC

[Xervek]

xxskyshadowxx wrote...

Xervek wrote...

From Mass Effect 1 to 3 it is like buying a car which is worth 500.000 €, $, ... get it from the car salesman, drive home and the street before you arrive you total the car...

I agree with the article where the 5 reasons are written down why the ending is so amazing! Thanks BioWare!

We didn't total the car though....it's more like it's was an awesome-looking car that handled like a dream,....the ride home was smoothe and satisfying and riiiiiiight before you pulled into the driveway, the whole thing fell apart while you were sitting in the middle of it, because it wasn't constructed properly from start to finish. So, now you're left with the scrapped junkpile remnants of that awesome car, that you have to try and piece back together on your own, or with the help of others apart from the manufacturer, and you wonder why you bought the damn thing to begin with.

Yes, you are right. I finished the game a few minutes ago and I am currently still disappointed. I was exited to play the whole series again, different options and settings but I have lost all the excitement within 5 minutes through "this" end... I am still sorting my mind about it. I am curious about what BioWare will do now... 

[AlphaScrewySam]

I'm a Liara LIer, so my favourite part was the bit where Liara shows you the device she built. My second favourite is where Conrad Verner is willing to lay down his life to save yours.

My least favourite was the ending. The problem with the ending is that it's not a bittersweet victory: There is no victory. Galactic civilisation is destroyed, and the entire Normandy crew is marooned on a mystery planet.

The entire game was building up to a massive climax of glorious victory over the Reapers, so when the game takes a 180 at the end, there is, at least in my case, just a feeling of dull emptiness, quickly followed by outrage.

Also, I'm pissed that that the writing team straight up lied when they said playing the previous games would affect the ending.

[Militarized]

Bioware, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look at this!

http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg

This is what people, I think pretty universally, expected!

Modifié par Militarized, 17 mars 2012 - 11:22 .

[Hashishim]

Firstly hats of to Bioware, love the game find it awesome, love the lore and the story, played ME1 ME2 ME3, read all the books, comics and even intend on playing the IOS Game, that show much I love the back stories and story.

My favourite moments, resolving the geth and quarian conflict and getting on Rannoch back for the Quarians and finding the GETH and QUARIAN working together its awesome!, Tuchanka and Mordin was sad but he was a good guy!

This is something that many people may not agree, but the scene where Illusive Man shoots himself, you actually realize at the end his a good guy!!! and did have humanity interest to the core but the reapers corrupt everybody. If you read the comics you'll see why he went this route.

The comments of Javik and his rants and point of view, Garrus on the Citadel Presidium! AWESOME!

And Wrex saying I am Urdnot Wrex and this is my Planet!, and when you see EARTH in the beginnning and at the end. the emotions to see our planet:)

Also Tuchanka the way you learn that the Krogan where not really completely barbaric and their history in that ancient ruins was awesome it gave me respect for them as a race,

And the GETH their history, you feel a sense of sadness learning their history and how they suffered yet they still willing to help their creators and forgive and be part of em

What woulda been nice though is to of landed on PALAVEN (hope you make a DLC where we can land on Palaven)

But like many before me, the ending sucked! I chose personalyl destroying the reapers, but if the decision is true where you kill off all syntethic life then it just makes getting the Quarians and Geth to make peace and work together meaningless I felt I let down Legion

But after reading the forums and stuff I really hope there is more to it, as he mentioned that shepheard is also synthetic partly and he will be dead to. But I got to the scene where he survives and breaths so there is hope!.

Also what happened to the people on the CITADEL, BAILEY and them, so helping out and building the citadel defence force it did nothing? what about all the people on there did they die to? What happened to them? What happened to the Batarians are they going to be involved with helping the future, want to know more about them! Somewhat I feel sorry for them they seem misunderstood.

That reminds another scene I liked when Balak gives you the batarians fleets:D So they have hearts! even though you want to Kill him it still awesome to see the whole galaxy united, even though you chose the Krogan cure, Salarians still give you their fleet so that is awesome to at end because you saved their Councillor.The game showed that all the characters even at first portrayed evil has some sort of good in them, Udina to, you saw his worry side for losing his friends on Arcturus and EARTH and desperation made him do things.

oh and THANES and Legions sacrifice! Miranda and her conclusions (want to see if after reapers they together) I really really do hope if the conspiracy theory is true, that anderson is alive and lands with Kahlee Sanders:)

Oh and lastly the final best scene, when Hacket does his speech it gave a scene of yay we got unity! LETS GO KICK REAPER ASS! and you speak to your team mates and even the people from ME2 (JACK ETC) that was awesome! and the massive space battle with all the fleets against the reapers.

Anyway hoping for a real ending! if it does happen cross fingers else I would be disapointed, but will still hold MASS EFFECT as one of the best games I ever played regardless. With Grand Theft Auto and C&C Generals there to

[sangy]

mastirkal wrote...

None the less as the ending stands it makes me feel like this was a better ending music to fit how I feel bioware handled it.

Thanks man, first thing that made me laugh all day.  Funny !@#$

[ZyionPrime]

TheOriginalGoochman wrote...

This is something I posted on the Retake facebook group. While I know it is not what people agree with, it is what I believe would create a better outcome in terms of ending our Mass Effect experience

I know this is not going to be a popular idea, but I would be willing to pay for an ending DLC...here is why

A: Development costs money...voice actors cost money. I would support what they had to spend to make the content

B: If we are willing to pay I believe they would be much more inclined to create what we want (more in a sense of meaty content, instead of something slapped together that says "there we did it now leave us alone". eg Think of if Indoctrination is what they go with. If people are down to buy the DLC they could possibly make it an amazing interactive experience, filled with cutscenes, more choices, more action....and heck maybe have a bunch of animated and voiced endings that give us a true Mass Effect experience.....that in fact reflect our choices.
Instead of a text scroll (which would be okay.....but I know what one I would rather have).

Again I know this a very unpopular idea.......but..............I believe the outcome will be more in our favor if it were to happen.

(sorry for posting in multiple threads, just trying to put feelers out and see if there are people who may agree)

I think the problem most people have with the ending and possible future DLC to fix it is that Bioware stated that your character's decisions would have an impact on the ending. And with the current ending, all the decisions you made in the first two games have no real affect on the end. So most people felt that they payed money for something that wasn't what they were promised. If Bioware plans on fixing this with a DLC, they should consider making it free for that reason alone.

If they decided to make you pay for the ending, it would be like selling someone a brand new car with the promise that it runs fine; but you find out later that something is wrong with it and you need to play the seller more money to fix it. It just seems very wrong to expect that. Besides that, allot of fans were turned off because of the ending, even saying that they would never pay money for a Bioware game again. Imagine the outrage that would follow if Bioware made people pay to have a proper ending. It would not only hurt the company's image, but also alienate most of its customers.

Modifié par ZyionPrime, 17 mars 2012 - 11:29 .

[Fat Head]

First let me say that I loved both my first and second playthrough of Mass Effect 3.  Up until the last 10 minutes, the game is an absolute masterpiece.  It's definitely got some flaws, especially technically, but the sum of it is greater than it's parts.  It was well on its way to becoming a certified classic and IMO the most engaging and interesting Sci-Fi universe ever created.  That still may be the case, provided things are not left as they are.

I'm not convinced this is the end of the game.  There are too many subtle things that happen after you get hit by the blast to show there may be more.  I also refuse to believe that Bioware, the amazing company that made games that I've loved such as Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, and the first two Mass Effect games, would wrap this game up in such a sloppy manner.

I fully expected that all of my choices and decisions would culminate in the results I got for the end of the game.  I expected to get to Earth and after getting through whatever battles I had to face, I'd be treaded to a finale that either appropriately results in my success in saving everyone and living happily ever after with my LI, failing to save the galaxy resulting in the reapers harvesting and destroying everything I was fighting for, or something inbetween the two that represented my choices.  What we got boggles my mind, because it's exactly what we were promised we wouldn't get in several interviews.  I want my happy endings, my sad endings and everything inbetween.

If you play as a Paragon, then despite the sad overtones and meloncholy atmosphere throughout the entirety of the game, you are giving all of the characters hope.  By the time you reach Earth and have your final chats with all the characters you've encountered, EVERY ONE OF THEM is capable of believing in not only you, but the actual possibility of success.  That life can and will go on FOR THEM AND YOU after this final battle.  If the ending stays the way it is, it sends the message that hope is a pointless and futile waste of time.  Regardless of what you do, you lose.  This is the message that Bioware is currently conveying and the reason that SO MANY people are furious.  That is why there needs to be endings to cover every end of the spectrum Bioware has created.

I really hope that Bioware has something planned.  I hope that this is just some awfully planned mess that didn't go as expected and has become a PR nightmare.  I have faith in Bioware that they have amazing ends to aamazing stories in store for us.  I want to finish the tale of MY Commander Shepard, the one I've been shaping since Mass Effect 1.  Then I want to finish the tale of my OTHER Commander Shepards who have been going since then too.

I can say for sure that if this is the case, my shaken faith will be restored.  But I do believe that if the ending is meant to be the way it's intended, then I will not be returning to Bioware for anymore DLC or games, and the same goes for EA (a publisher who I already do not trust, yet my faith in Bioware allowed me to continue coming back).

I also don't understand why if this was planned from the beginning, why wasn't an announcement made?  Either the release date could have been pushed back again to allow more time for the ending, or if it was due to technical limitations, then a simple, honest announcement would have alleviated the current problems.  Planned or not, staying silent for too much longer will do nothing but hurt in the future.

[Flyers215]

AlphaScrewySam wrote...

My least favourite was the ending. The problem with the ending is that it's not a bittersweet victory: There is no victory. Galactic civilisation is destroyed, and the entire Normandy crew is marooned on a mystery planet.

The entire game was building up to a massive climax of glorious victory over the Reapers, so when the game takes a 180 at the end, there is, at least in my case, just a feeling of dull emptiness, quickly followed by outrage.

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.

[darthnick427]

Militarized wrote...

Bioware, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look at this!

http://h9.abload.de/img/jhtqyrqxxg.jpg

This is what people, I think pretty universally, expected!

Seriously.....Why did't they do this? WTF?!

[nickr1407]

Just saw the Deus Ex endings ... they look pretty much the same to me.

[Omnike]

Flyers215 wrote...

AlphaScrewySam wrote...

My least favourite was the ending. The problem with the ending is that it's not a bittersweet victory: There is no victory. Galactic civilisation is destroyed, and the entire Normandy crew is marooned on a mystery planet.

The entire game was building up to a massive climax of glorious victory over the Reapers, so when the game takes a 180 at the end, there is, at least in my case, just a feeling of dull emptiness, quickly followed by outrage.

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.

Mission not really accomplished. Geth are dead. Quarians are dead. Most humans are dead. Most turians are dead. Most Salarian and Asari are dead. The galaxy is in a worst state than it was before you killed the reapers and nothing you did in the game made a difference.

[WilliamDracul88]

[quote]Alex-_- wrote...

Don't know if this has been posted already but this shows how mass effect 3's ending could have been so much more than it was

http://i.imgur.com/JhtqY.jpg[/quote]

[/quote]

That chart is ABSURDLY GREAT. Bioware should take note.

[Bigten08]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Adding my voice to the dissatisfaction.

Put bluntly the general concept behind the ending wasn't that bad. Having a bittersweet ending is legitimate, if not popular. However it was badly constructed, contradicted much of the lore and, to paraphrase someone else from this forum, "had plot holes large enough to drive the Destiny Ascension through". And thats not even addressing the fact you're railroaded into one of three virutally identical options.

For myself, however I personally think that having only bittersweet endings is a bad call. With all due respect I think that we, your customers, deserve options given thats essentially how you sold this series to us (with all of our actions effecting the story). If you do well enough there SHOULD be a happy ending; plenty of people have put a huge amount of time and emotion into our stories specifically for that purpose. There should also be a disasterous ending in which you fail. And a variety of others in between; that would make our decisions and our relative amount of effort actually mean something. I can't have been the only one who got something like 7-8k war assets and built up my readiness to around 85% to ensure I would succeed in the best manner possible. The endings, as they stand, render all of that completely meaningless. All of my efforts to unite the Korgan and Turians, the Quarians and Geth, even getting the rachni on board and even going as far back as the original and saving the Citadel Council. None of it seems to matter in light of the endings.

Also I have to verhemently disagree with leaving the ending as a cliffhanger or vague in any shape, way or form. Yes, sometimes that is a legitimate way to end things, especially in films. However the way Mass Effect has been built up and up ending it in such a way is a massive anticlimax. Many customers want to see the actual outcome of what they've done. To prove that all their efforts weren't in vain and get some resolution, regardless of how good or bad it might be depending on their respective decisions.

At the moment all I can say is that I sincerely hope the hallucination/indoctrination theories are correct. Because god knows that was no way to end this epic story.

Well said.

It's frustrating to build a character taking them down a certain path and then end up with endings that don't really fit that path. I'm fine with these 3 endings being options, but we need a few more options and each ending should be more different than the 3 we got. The lack of a real epilogue just leaves us hanging and that's terrible.


And seriously, what the HELL is that massive fleet going to do now that it's trapped hovering near earth? You spend all that time trying to make peace, getting factions to work together, etc and then you just blow up the mass relays thus disconnecting the entire Mass Effect universe?

[Gorebat]

 Thought I would give my feedback on the ending as well. All the basic concerns I have about it are pretty much voiced here, except for one: the ending music. Please, BioWare, whatever you decide to do, be it keep the endings, release DLC for them, patch new ones in, I implore you to keep the music that plays when you make your decision. Here's the music for anyone who hasn't heard it.  Thanks for listening.

[xxskyshadowxx]

Xervek wrote...

xxskyshadowxx wrote...

Xervek wrote...

From Mass Effect 1 to 3 it is like buying a car which is worth 500.000 €, $, ... get it from the car salesman, drive home and the street before you arrive you total the car...

I agree with the article where the 5 reasons are written down why the ending is so amazing! Thanks BioWare!

We didn't total the car though....it's more like it's was an awesome-looking car that handled like a dream,....the ride home was smoothe and satisfying and riiiiiiight before you pulled into the driveway, the whole thing fell apart while you were sitting in the middle of it, because it wasn't constructed properly from start to finish. So, now you're left with the scrapped junkpile remnants of that awesome car, that you have to try and piece back together on your own, or with the help of others apart from the manufacturer, and you wonder why you bought the damn thing to begin with.

Yes, you are right. I finished the game a few minutes ago and I am currently still disappointed. I was exited to play the whole series again, different options and settings but I have lost all the excitement within 5 minutes through "this" end... I am still sorting my mind about it. I am curious about what BioWare will do now... 

I expect they'll do what they have been doing since the first outcry; deflect and placate untul the furor dies down, while trying to spark interest in pre-endgame and multiplayer DLC. Then milk whatever cash they can Reap from that for as long as they can until folks realize a new ending is never coming.

[SkullStrife]

First of all we have to thank Bioware for giving us one of the best video game series ever! in this days is worth mentioning that you made a ver good quality product (in what matters most, PLOT, graphics are secondary)

BUT I totally agree with the other gamers and I support them in this aspect, we have to stand together and hold the line! we deserve a proper ending a real Mass Effect ending!

A lot of people have already explained why the ending is bad (the aspect of choice ruined, it´s short, the lack of enough explanations, the lack of graphic variations between the endings, makes no sense, raises more questions, has no logic as without mass relays all the galaxian army that was brought to earth will die as earth has not enough resources to sustain and feed them, Joker flying away when Normandy, the most advanced ship, should be the spear of the attack, lack of proper final fight against Harbinger, etc etc etc)

I must add that every day I get to like more and more the indoctrination theory... it´s just amazing and takes elements from the whole saga (also from the ME3 plot aswell as the kid is a symbol of Shepard´s regret for not being able to save everyone and the reapers may be using him, ALSO Shepard is the only one who ever interacted with the kid, even the soldiers at the ships never helped him to get on it xD) If Bioware really planned to make the ending as the indoctrination theory it is genious and would make total sense (the reapers are not only making Shepard hallucinating they are tricking us as showing TIM´s path as the Paragon and Anderson´s option as Renegade which makes no sense, Reapers are trying to make Shepard take the wrong decission, indoctrinating him)... if you really were doing that, well it was really risky but GENIOUS and would have been incredible... However if we assume that Bioware ´s intention was to give us that ending as THE ending, well... we have to fight to obtain a proper ending to this AMAZING trilogy!!

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO (in my opinion xD)
Bioware should take note that fanservice is a good business, the relationship between consumers and game makers it´s essencial, RISING QUALITY should be priority!!! (In Dragon age 2 you made a really good game but you FAILED in the task cause Origins had MUCH MORE QUALITY, I´m speaking about storytelling, lenght, RPG stuff, graphics are NOT that important in this kind of games nor even mechanics) thinking only about profit is, unfortunately, the main characteristic of the capitalistic way of production, while this horrible system is still dominating we won t be able to avoid this (sorry about including politics xD)... However in this case, maximizing profits while delivering a poor ending to avoid costs (if not I cannot think about another reason, short-time? you could wait one more week to deliver a proper ending...) is really really inconvenient... this is not a t-shirth is a cultural product and if you don´t give us a proper answer (and take a proper decission as launching a FREE DLC with the ENDING) it will result in BAD economic business (with the current economic crisis in Europe and the US you need to get more and more consumers and mantain the old ones happy.) A company like Bioware has to think in the long run not in the short-run... you are becoming the best RPG games makers of this era (Squaresoft was the last one), if you can consolidate that title (you could do that launching that FREE Ending DLC and giving proper closure to this story) and continue with that path you wont ever worry again about numbers... the fans will carry Bioware to the top automatically.

I´m happy to know that Bioware is reading our complains, I hope you take the right decission...

BTW favorite moments?? LOTS! can ´t even count them but I will mention some of them...

EDI´s joke about oxygen (Shepard´s face and reaction were priceless) xDD
Garrus ´s presidium shooting scene
Curing Genophage
Ending war between Quarians and Geth... is amazing, Shepard really made a REVOLUTION there! a real uthopia (even Geth are helping quarians with their immune system...)
Liara´s romancing scenes...