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 I've been a fan since Mass Effect 1 came out and Mass Effect 2 blew my mind. Mass Effect 3 as a whole was one of the best games I've ever played. More emotional scenes, difficult choices, amazing graphics, bad-ass multiplayer. I'd give it honestly a 9.95/10. The only thing that was lacking as everybody in the ME universe has pointed out is, the ending. In regards to the ending, by itself or for a different franchise I think it would've gone over fine. But for Mass Effect it took the power out of the players hands and made it so no matter what happens : the Mass effect relays are destroyed: and shepard dies (maybe...). Also not getting to find out what happened to the massive fleet of every alien race after the mass effect relays are destroyed...did the quarian fleet who you just got a new homeworld for get trapped in the Sol System? I mean those questions really did leave me with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. I think all that is needed to fix the problem is DLC that allows for a variety of endings. Maybe something that could give the Crucible an alternative purpose or a way to reason with the God like AI. or the normandy could be called in. Something needs to be done. Also Tali was my romance option so knowing how she would survive on a random green planet by herself would be nice. Or allowing for something else entirely to happen would be cool.

The production team also did an amazing job with the soundtrack. Taking things directly from Jack Wall's mass effect 2 soundtrack and adding in some new Clint Mansell stuff with the emotional piano feeling really worked well. and the Faunts credits music was tight. 
Kudos to the production team and Casey Hudson and everybody else involved for doing a terrific job with the ME series and really changing the way I look at video games. 

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jfruelas521 wrote...

Hello Bioware,

Allow me to first like to congratulate you for being one of the premier game development companies in the world, and my personal favorite. Your games have filled my life with many hours of happiness and entertainment. Having said that, I, like many others, did not enjoy the ending to Mass Effect 3, which is putting it mildly.

The purpose of this post is to provide some honest consumer feedback about your product. I fully understand that Mass Effect is your product and you have the right to create in whatever way you see fit. However, with such a community outcry, I believe it is a fair statement to say that the product can be made better. I firmly believe that you need to look at this situation as an opportunity. You shipped a game that did not did not quite meet consumer expectations, though it was still an outstanding game. The opportunity here is to address the consumer complaint and rewrite the ending. Rewriting an ending to a game is rare, but not unprecedented, even for triple-A titles. Responding to consumer criticism is natural for any company and simply because the game has already shipped should not dissuade you from taking actions to address those criticisms. The great benefit to digital distribution is that you can release a new ending with relatively minimal expense. From a business standpoint, the revenue and consumer loyalty you would gain should outweigh the resources you have to put into such a venture.

I will end this post with a summary of my personal feelings regarding your company and product. Please note that these are my own opinions. My confidence in your company's products has been severely shaken. Before the closing moments of ME3, I did not think this was even remotely possible as they stood at an all-time high. Going forward, games will not be an automatic purchase simply because they have the Bioware label on them, as they were previously. Moreover, I can 100% guarantee you that I will not purchase any non-free DLC for ME3 without a new ending being written and distributed. I strongly encourage your to consider rewriting the ending. Such a gesture on your part will surely be met with great appreciation by the community and myself.

Thank you for your time.


Totally agree with this, i loved is an understatement the mass effect series hooked me like a fish grabbing a huge worm on a hook. I felt so many emotions playing the series of games which no other game has ever provided apart from the original Everquest which i played for 7 years from beta. Then to have everything my crew and decisions i have made during the course of my shepards life to come down to ABC choices which were all terrible endings shattered my mass effec bubble and the belief in Bioware. It was like you gave the ending to another company to write who had no clue what the mass effect universe was, about the choices we make as players etc.

So as the poster put, with the age of digital download and the fantastic product which is mass effect, please listen to us and redesign the ending, so we can all be at ease and possibly enjoy the continuation of ME3 with new missions via DLC.
 
I was so upset with the ending that i even joined this forum something i have not done since EQ days on the verant/sony forums when i was very active member. I had to voice my opinion and iam not the only one, many people i know who also downloaded via origin are heart broken too.

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Gorebat wrote...

 Thought I would give my feedback on the ending as well. All the basic concerns I have about it are pretty much voiced here, except for one: the ending music. Please, BioWare, whatever you decide to do, be it keep the endings, release DLC for them, patch new ones in, I implore you to keep the music that plays when you make your decision. Here's the music for anyone who hasn't heard it.  Thanks for listening.


Oh yeah....the ending was abysmal but the music was GOOD. Ironic that it was called "An End Once and for All." Could be Bioware's swan song.

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I hope that whatever they go with, they keep the Faunts as well... that song was beautiful and Faunts going with credits brings things full circle. (part of this epic smile I had when I finished ME1 for the first time, was due to Faunts song accompanying the credits)

but in general, I have zero issues with ME3 music. the soundtrack is outstanding and is part of my "to work with" playlist.

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Flyers215 wrote...

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.



Mission not really accomplished. Geth are dead. Quarians are dead. Most humans are dead. Most turians are dead. Most Salarian and Asari are dead. The galaxy is in a worst state than it was before you killed the reapers and nothing you did in the game made a difference.



What makes you say that the Geth, Quarians, Turians, Salarians, and Asari are dead?  Other than casualties to the war, everyone remains virtually unharmed by the way in which the Reapers were disposed.  Of course the galaxy is in a horrible state; the Reapers just went to town on us.  Shepard's actions rid the galaxy of the Reapers and essentially protected trillions of lives.  I'm sure many colonies will crumble and fail, but there's not much that can be done about that.

There are quite a few things that Shepard did in the game to make a difference.  Now that the Reapers are gone, the Quarians on Rannoch can now live upon its surface once more.  The other species that accompanied Shepard to Earth are alive and just outside of Earth's orbit.  Assuming everyone still gets along, they're more than welcome to join us on Earth where all the species can hypothetically live together in harmony.

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I want to contribute with a video I found, that explains in a masterfully way the Indoctrination theory (using the games explanation to what indoctrination is)



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Yeah, the music was what caused me to get so emotional during the game, that and, yknow, being connected to my squadmates.

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I don't know how Casey Hudson could defend this ending because not a second of it made any bloody sense.

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Flyers215 wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.



Mission not really accomplished. Geth are dead. Quarians are dead. Most humans are dead. Most turians are dead. Most Salarian and Asari are dead. The galaxy is in a worst state than it was before you killed the reapers and nothing you did in the game made a difference.



What makes you say that the Geth, Quarians, Turians, Salarians, and Asari are dead?  Other than casualties to the war, everyone remains virtually unharmed by the way in which the Reapers were disposed.  Of course the galaxy is in a horrible state; the Reapers just went to town on us.  Shepard's actions rid the galaxy of the Reapers and essentially protected trillions of lives.  I'm sure many colonies will crumble and fail, but there's not much that can be done about that.

There are quite a few things that Shepard did in the game to make a difference.  Now that the Reapers are gone, the Quarians on Rannoch can now live upon its surface once more.  The other species that accompanied Shepard to Earth are alive and just outside of Earth's orbit.  Assuming everyone still gets along, they're more than welcome to join us on Earth where all the species can hypothetically live together in harmony.


When a Relay blows up, it takes the entire system with it and all the Relays blow up regardless of which of the three color endings you choose. So, the only survivors are those few who made it to a habitable fringe planet.

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SkullStrife wrote...

I want to contribute with a video I found, that explains in a masterfully way the Indoctrination theory (using the games explanation to what indoctrination is)

I just love the Conrad Verner vid hie did! !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ

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So... Beat the game a few days ago... couldn't bring myself to play it again. The ending(s?) crushed my enthusiasm. Very sad about this. My immediate reaction to seeing the credits rolling on ME and ME2 was to start up a new game and play through taking all the opposite choices. I played through ME atleast 4 complete times that I can remember, and ME2 4 times also (paragon and renegade for both sexes). I was looking forward to playing these 4 characters though the conclusion of the series. Sadly... I don't see that happening any time soon, if at all. Largely, it will depend on Bioware/EAs response to this thread (and many others). Not in the thread, but their actual actions. Will this be swept under the rug / ignored? Or will they do something meaningful about it.

Until then... sad panda. :(

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Dear Bioware,

              I have played all ME games and loved them for the most part.  I've invested lots of my entertainment hours to your games.  I was most especially gratified with ME2; I felt that it was a true "upgrade" and continuation from ME1.  However, in terms of gameplay I've been a little disapointed with ME3.  It's overall felt like it was a ME2.5 rather than 3; it's ok to stick with an engine that works but I felt that there was a lot less overall dialouge with my sqaudmates even though there was less of them from ME2.  I really enjoyed the writing for the most part however; I felt that the way the story and characters developed was "true" what had come before.  I felt as disappointed as Liara did with Javik though; but then I saw him grow as well and in the end I didn't exactly like him but felt I could understand him.  

              I can't fault most things with ME3 a whole; although the music in Shepard's cabin was horrible; in future maybe give us a few more options besides the various "techno beat" options.  Glad you kept the ship models and fish tank tho.  And thanks for the VI to feed the fish!!

              But the ending(s); I mean c'mon.  What made me try ME in the first place was my previous experience with Jade Empire and Knights of the Old Republic.  The way things ended was influenced by the way I had played; the decisons I had made.  And I was much less invested in those games.  The ending(s) ( I tried all 3) were just so disjointed and ambiguous from everything that came before.  No sense of continuity, no sense of closure.  Just a series of cutscences that felt almost random. 

                I would appreciate some better endings.  Endings where everything my Shepard did mattered.  As it is it didn't matter if I was Paragon or Renegade, whether I saved Rachni or killed them; rewrote the Geth or destroyed the renegades.  An ending where my Shepard dies is ok; an ending where everything my Shepard did was made irrelevant is not. 

Thanks for listening.

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Everyone, we have lived in Shepard's armor for 5 years now.
Be it paragon or renegade, our Shepard fought for the good of the galaxy.
Giving us absurd endings to our own personal stories was over the line.
Now, we will rally the forces of Mass Effect fandom as Shepard had with the
races of the galaxy. In Shepard's spirit, we will hold the line.
Why? Because the galaxy, let alone Shepard, deserves better than this.
Bioware, if you do not heed our call, we will strike. But know we do not want to.
It might come down as numbers and pie charts and money to you,
but to us it is about the spirit of triumph. It is about justice.
Sacrifices will be made, if you do not listen and fix this debacle.
On both sides, mind you. However, for us, the sacrifice is already made,
knowing of what happens to our beloved universe.
Make this right. Or face our wrath.
My friends, we are one voice. As Legion would say,
WE ARE LEGION.
And we will never stop.
Do not lose hope.
Do not lose composure.
Shepard would never do either.
All of you know this.
If the Mass Effect universe is ended with this whimper,
we will make sure that so does Bioware.
Do not underestimate us.
WE are STRONG

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I'll make my first post on the forums for this. Pretty much the same thing a lot of people have already said, but I feel like I should chip in as well. Hope I don't come of as entitled or as a troll or anything.

I've played ME1 four times and ME2 six. Regrettably only two of those six Shephards were females. During the gameplay of ME3 as a female adept I was contemplating starting a seventh playthrough from the first game onwards as another female, with Traynor as the intended love interest. She was a great new addition to the series, with Vega's male gazes at my femShep body making me instantly like him.

The game was great, loved every hour spent leveling my femshep. Interaction with Garrus was awesome and imo he is the best character in the Bioware games I've played. I was actually wishing I'd saved that Shep playthrough for later as a desert. The deaths of Mordin and Thane brought me to tears and it nearly happened again when I thought Grunt died. The short falling out between Shephard and Joker was fantastic. Killing Kai Leng with the renegade interrupt was more than satisfactory. The game was so enjoyable I forgave the drastically smaller amount of dialogue options after a while. In addition the music was absolutely amazing and I've been listening to the soundtrack a lot. Leaving Earth is my favourite of those.

The ending however, was terrible. The Reapers blasting me was a shock and a tad irritating loss of control, but it was acceptable. While dragging Shepard to the beam I just kept wondering what happened to Garrus and Kaidan, did the game forcibly kill two of my squadmates just like that? I planned to restart the final mission and take EDI and Javik with me for the mission had that been the case, but went on to see the ending.

Meeting TIM was great, it was a clear call back to the Saren encounter. Using the renegade interrupt to kill him was a great touch. I later played the same scene again using the paragon options, making TIM do the exact same thing as Saren had in the first game. Loved that. The following conversation between Shepard and Anderson was also a tearjerker for me, it was heartbreaking to see Shephard's mentor die. I would've accepted Shephard's death here. I had ~3500 points, which I hear is not enough for the best ending, so it was acceptable, even though adopting a krogan baby with Garrus would've been the funniest thing ever in the aftermath. Loved that turian.

The scene with the program that took on the child's form aka Godchild as it seems to be called and the choices offered came out of the blue and imo didn't with the rest of ME at all. From what I understood, all three choices would kill Shephard, even though I recall a post saying you could survive the game. From reading things here, I found out you can only survive if you choose the destroy option with enough assets. Not knowing this, I replayed the ending three times, and saw the choices led to pretty much indentical "epilogues", if you can call them that. Okay, disappointed with the ending, which I didn't understand, I expected to be presented with an epilogue showcasing the ramifications of my choices. Would the krogan start another galaxy wide war because I cured the genophage? What happened to each squad member? But there was no such thing. I was seriously depressed for a long time there, abandoning all thoughts about embarking on that 7th playthrough or even replaying ME3. I felt the time I spent playing the previous games multiple times was wasted. I really wanted to see what my choices led to, still do.

After a day, I realized I loved the game up until the ending, and decided I at least want to experience Tali's romance plot. The game was truly wonderful, even though the lack of continuation to the plot about Dark Matter causing the sun to die prematurely felt odd. I suspected the Reapers had something to do with that. I read something about it being in the leaked script, which I avoided reading. Would've appreciated an explanation/conclusion to that.

Someone here on the forums said we should discount the ending and substitute our own. I hope you won't force me to do that, Bioware. I love the Mass Effect franchise, loved DA:O and enjoyed DA2, but the ending to Shephard's trilogy was a very disappointing thing to play through. :sick: should describe it.

If the ending was all a hallucination/indoctrination like is suspected, I hope you have an epilogue dlc planned/in production already. Kind of unfair to charge us for extra to get the real ending though, but if this shock/outrage is what you wanted us to go through... Anyway, I'll still pay for an ending DLC. Preferrably one that discounts the part from collapsing in front of Anderson onwards. A rewrite or something. I want to get a proper epilogue, like the one in DA:O.

I made a wall of text apparently. Sorry about that.

In short: loved the game, but the ending didn't make sense. Pretty much what most people here say. Just please give us a proper ending. Mass Effect deserves it. <3

PS. I thought the Commander Shephard song was supposed to be in the game? :(

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The 1st thing I did when I completed Mass Effect 1, after letting the titles role all the way to the end, was to restart and load my 50th level character and start a second play through.

The 1st thing I did when i finished ME2, after letting the titles role all the way to the end, was to put the ME1 disk back in my Xbox and start a brand new character and play the game through again, ready to import him into ME2 for a second playthrough.

The 1st thing I did when i completed ME3, after skipping the titles, was to put Skyrim in my Xbox and realise what an Awesome Game it was.

Bioware's problem for me now is this:

unless the ending gets fixed, there is no incentive for me to buy any future DLC they release! why? because the ending ruins the game, why would I play a game even partly through just to play DLC? if I'm not going to replay the game and if the DLC adds nothing to the ending, why buy it?

Oh and by the way, I want to know what happened to Sha'ira. although she had a bit part in the series, she was actually an interesting character, unlike the cerberus assasin.

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One more voice:

I loved Mass Effect. I loved Mass Effect 2. I loved Mass Effect 3, I want ME1 and ME2 rebuillt in the style of ME3.

But the ending of Mass Effect 3 was not good. It was bad.

Bioware deserved the chance to write a better ending than that.

My condolences to the team that they didn't get to end their great Mass Effect series in a way that elevated the whole experience.

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Been days and I am still in shock over just how bad the ending is. If someone asked me prior 'could you be turned off Mass Effect in 15 minutes' I would have laughed them out of the room.. I don't laugh anymore. The child in me is dead.

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 I'll try to be brief.

The game is...brilliant. A masterpiece. Live characters, decisions matter, awesome story line. I've even dropped a few tears at some moments. I really enjoyed playing it, I was expecting an epic - really epic - ending. And instead, you gave me this.

I really felt bad and embarassed when i've finished Deus Ex:Human Revolution, as all i've got was 4 short cutscenes. It did not matter whether i've chosen to be a total badass or an angel of redemption, did not matter what characters i've chosen to save, did not matter how many - and how - i've killed. I hoped that I won't feel such disappointment ever again. Thanks to Mass Effect 3 endings, i've tasted this feeling once again.

Actually, when i was listening to this hallucination of a boy, I was already thiking "Damn, something is going to happen. It's definitely not what i am expecting". My expectations were correct - a lousy cutscene with some pinball-style jumping lights. That's it? Really? You kill a "bloody icon"© like that, that easy? All those epic battles, character sacrifices, planet destruction - all for a choice of 3 stupid cutscenes? 

After I've finished the game(synthesis ending was my choice), a thought that I should get my money back visited my mind. It was not what I was expecting from the allmighty BioWare. Much as I adore the games you've created, I simply could not put this ending into my mindbox of impressions. It just...I don't know. Ruined, wiped out, vaporised all the positive emotions i've had during the game. I had different guesses - you were about to meet a deadline, you were short on fundings, a member of the staff left.

But, after all of this, a small, bleary light of hope was telling me that it could not end like this. It's a fake, it's a miracle, it's just for lulz. Please, do not crush my hope. Do not crush my feelings for the second time. Give us the true ending. Let us know where had our decisions led us. I would even agree to part with Shepard - but at least make his death really matter, with a real reason.

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Flyers215 wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.



Mission not really accomplished. Geth are dead. Quarians are dead. Most humans are dead. Most turians are dead. Most Salarian and Asari are dead. The galaxy is in a worst state than it was before you killed the reapers and nothing you did in the game made a difference.



What makes you say that the Geth, Quarians, Turians, Salarians, and Asari are dead?  Other than casualties to the war, everyone remains virtually unharmed by the way in which the Reapers were disposed.  Of course the galaxy is in a horrible state; the Reapers just went to town on us.  Shepard's actions rid the galaxy of the Reapers and essentially protected trillions of lives.  I'm sure many colonies will crumble and fail, but there's not much that can be done about that.

There are quite a few things that Shepard did in the game to make a difference.  Now that the Reapers are gone, the Quarians on Rannoch can now live upon its surface once more.  The other species that accompanied Shepard to Earth are alive and just outside of Earth's orbit.  Assuming everyone still gets along, they're more than welcome to join us on Earth where all the species can hypothetically live together in harmony.


Because it takes hundreds to thousands of years to travel between clusters using FTL.  Only the Asari could potentially live that long to get home, but would likely starve before they did.  Everyone in the fleet around Earth would starve to death, especially the Quarians and Turians who cannot eat anything from earth.

Thessia was destroyed, Earth and Palaven are pretty much in the same state.  Tuchanka was screwed before we even started.  The Quarians and the Geth on Rannoch might be alright assuming enough of them stayed back there for a large enough gene pool to produce offspring with more than the proper amount of fingers and toes.

Etc, etc, etc...

Furthermore, how the hell did Anderson avoid getting vaped, and how did the squadmates I had with me manage to get onto the Normandy, and through the mass relay before it exploded?

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Robotnexus wrote...

SkullStrife wrote...

I want to contribute with a video I found, that explains in a masterfully way the Indoctrination theory (using the games explanation to what indoctrination is)

I just love the Conrad Verner vid hie did! !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYLTbQQEZQ


ROFL I really enjoyed those videos xDDDD (all of them are excellent xD)  CONRAD! MAKE ME PROUD! STOP THE REAPERS (XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)

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xxskyshadowxx wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

This is where I fundamentally disagree.  I never got the impression that the game was building up to a "glorious victory over the Reapers."  I was fighting to stop the Reapers and save as many people as I could in the process.

In the ending, mission accomplished.  The Reapers are gone and the galaxy is saved by Shepard's hand.  Galactic civilisation is not destroyed.  There are an unfathomable amount of people that would never know what happened, why all the Reapers dropped dead at the flip of a switch, or why the mass relays were now destroyed, but they had been saved.  Shepard would remain the unknown, underappreciated hero that she was born to be.  The civilisation now remains within the Sol system and there is still technology abound from the Protheans as well as the Reapers to help re-establish a functioning, more equal society.  Species from across the galaxy showed up to fight for Earth and now that's where they'll all stay.  I thought the ending was beautiful.

As for the Normandy, I'm sure they'd eventually be found, especially with Traynor, a communications specialist, among the living.  However, I find it preposterous that Joker lived that crash.  The man's made of glass.  That impact would have destroyed his body.



Mission not really accomplished. Geth are dead. Quarians are dead. Most humans are dead. Most turians are dead. Most Salarian and Asari are dead. The galaxy is in a worst state than it was before you killed the reapers and nothing you did in the game made a difference.



What makes you say that the Geth, Quarians, Turians, Salarians, and Asari are dead?  Other than casualties to the war, everyone remains virtually unharmed by the way in which the Reapers were disposed.  Of course the galaxy is in a horrible state; the Reapers just went to town on us.  Shepard's actions rid the galaxy of the Reapers and essentially protected trillions of lives.  I'm sure many colonies will crumble and fail, but there's not much that can be done about that.

There are quite a few things that Shepard did in the game to make a difference.  Now that the Reapers are gone, the Quarians on Rannoch can now live upon its surface once more.  The other species that accompanied Shepard to Earth are alive and just outside of Earth's orbit.  Assuming everyone still gets along, they're more than welcome to join us on Earth where all the species can hypothetically live together in harmony.


When a Relay blows up, it takes the entire system with it and all the Relays blow up regardless of which of the three color endings you choose. So, the only survivors are those few who made it to a habitable fringe planet.


Yes. And even if you disregard the relay explosion, the majority chunk of the races are stranded at Earth.

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Sonicsnak3

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BioWare we are so sorry we have to be against you on this particular debate. DO NOT take it personally Its not something we get a kick out of. But we have to be heard, its just not something that'll die out or can be dismissed, you can either have us all rallying behind you supporting your next move or lose the community. I have utter faith in you to make the right decision, I do not need to convey my particular view on the endings because everything has pretty much been said. Again BioWare don't take this to heart, we still love you guys for the stories you've brought us :)

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[quote]Alex-_- wrote...

Don't know if this has been posted already but this shows how mass effect 3's ending could have been so much more than it was

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This type of thing is what I was expecting for the end of Mass Effect 3, because we didn't get it, it is a major disapointment.

Amazing game, BioWare! Just lets give the ending an overhaul, it needs it. So many things just cause it to send the wrong message to the gamer.

The tag line of Mass Effect 3 was to take back Earth, but if the Mass Relays blow up, and Shepard blows them up, then Earth (and everybody else) is blown up.So.... congratulations Commander Shepard, in your brave struggle, you finally got the power to destroy the galaxy.....and you used it for some reason....

It's the wrong move, and I very much hope that you are reading these threads and posts, realizing that the players of this series expected to be able to save the Galaxy and not have to reinvent it. Shepard isn't a philosopher, so why should he install Indoctrination to the universe? He's not a Scientist, so why should he combine all organic and inorganic life into one? He's not a murderer, so why as a result of destroying the Reapers must he kill every Geth and synthetic Life Form? Shepard's not an anarchist, why must he destroy the infrastructure to the galaxy and send everyone back to the dark ages?

These are questions that if they haven't been asked before, need to be asked now at BioWare. Some more "classic" endings need to be considered, developed and implemented as soon as possible. Most definitely announced quickly. Earlier posts mentioned that you're watching to see what happens as more people complete the game, but there's a big problem there. The Hardcore Mass Effect 3 gamers finished the first playthrough quickly and have already taken their stance, these are the players most likely to do many playthroughs and do the Galaxy at War Multiplayer for the forseeable future. If they start to leave the game, there will be a major problem keeping the franchise going.

I hope this has been useful. Thank you.

Modifié par PureLeadHead, 17 mars 2012 - 11:57 .


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Giody

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the ending for a newcomer was ok
for the rest of us was like ehmm wt??
we really didnt say anything for the endings of 1 and 2 and then you change the main writer
its not that he didnt do a good job but we liked Drew's better :P
hope that will teach you something so you wont change main writers in the middle of a game trilogy ;)
anyway waiting for new context (w/e that is!)

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I have played the Mass Effect series from the beginning and have at least 3 different play throughs through the previous two.  As a fan of the series I am not going to sit here and complain about Mass Effect 3 as a game.  This was the best game right up to the end.  I am not upset with the ending in the sense that other people are, it is up to the developer to determine how a game ends.  With that said there are pieces of the ending that could have been better.  In my opinion the ending doesn't feel like a true ending, it feels like an ending that will be followed by another game to wrap up some of the storylines.  BioWare has said that this is to be Commander Shepards last game, and I am okay with that.  I half expected Shepard to die at the end of the game, I mean it is the most realistic ending.  However, I want to know what happened to the rest of the galaxy in terms of my decisions.  What is the point of getting the Geth and Quarians to become allies if you never find out what happend to them?  What is the consequence for curing the Genophage?  If Mass Effect 3 really is supposed to be the end of this chapter in the Mass Effect universe then give us some closure on the decisions we have made through out the game.