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Flyers215 wrote...
*snip*


It's one thing to give a good ending, it's entirely different to give this POS.

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Ok lets assume that we are not a majority... even though the game is 1 month old as avatar2396 said and there are thousands that agree on one point... the ending. We also have to take into consideration that all of us agree about the game being AWESOME!!!! the journey throught the story is just exquisite...

Juromaro, you are suggesting that there is some kind of campaign against Bioware or EA or even the ME3 game... However as I just said, we all agreed about the game being amazing... I really doubt that there is something like that going on... the intention of the thousands of people asking Bioware to deliver a proper ending is in order to enjoy the story, it also shows how much we do love this saga, it´s characters, etc. if we didin ´t we wouldn ´t care and we would just turn off our PCs or consoles... but no, here we are interacting with Bioware, in a franchise which was made with active participation of the fan-base. As user Johnathonm said we are assisting to a paradigm shift... Internet let our voices be heard participation is the future and is already here...interactive media and Bioware has been the vanguard in that aspect as other users said, a lot of aspects were introduced because bioware listened to us (calibrations jokes, new romance options, plot stuff etc). So in any case I think that we are being reasonable when asking for this kind of things..

Btw let´s just consider that we are not just as a vas majority as we are guessing... let ´s just say that we are... 60% or even 50%.. it ´s still A HUGE amount of people, all belonging to the fan-base who saw and participated in this this franchise ´s grow... so if you really loved the ending and you don ´t even want a longer version of it, you culd just not download the DLC that we are asking for, make it optional it´s not a big deal for you, but for us it is... (why we can´t have a democracy, in this case a democracy that contemplates minorities which I think that is not our case)

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Flyers215 wrote...

Then don't leave.  Leaving isn't a plausible option given the situation.  Without the mass relays, you're not going home and that's just something you'll have to accept, person not from Earth.  I actually don't know what Turians or Quarians eat, but I'm sure that we could synthesise something for them.  There are Quarians and Turians on Mars, so just replicate whatever it is that they're eating.

I don't believe Thessia was completely destroyed.  I believe it was just ravaged along with Earth & Palaven.  The planets are still habitable.  I'm sure the Quarians and Geth on Rannoch are the best off in this whole situation.  They're completely starting fresh on a planet that didn't get hit that hard by the war.  The Geth can help the Quarians rebuild, which is also what they were doing before the events of the showdown on Earth (at least for me).

What do you mean about Anderson?  He died on the Crucible before Shepard talked to The Child for me.  Shepard and he had a very, very touching heart to heart before he died at Shepard's side.  The Normandy crew situation is a harder one to explain.  Joker must have got cold feet and did a bunk after dropping you off on Earth.  The Normandy was in the middle of the firefight in Earth's orbit while Shepard had her boots down on the surface, so he could have left for some reason and then got caught in the explosion.  I still don't know how Joker himself survived the crash.  That's one of the bigger oversights I think I've ever seen.


Without intergalactic trade, there is no way to feed all the people stranded on earth, synthesized jelly foods or not.  Earth got most of its food from Eden Prime... an agricultural colony.  There are not enough resources in our solar system to sustain all those people.

For Anderson, I'm talking about the fact that he was able to get onto the Citadel completely unharmed.


I certainly didn't say it was a happy ending.  It's quite grim, actually.  Like I said in a previous post, trillions would die either to the Reapers or because of them.  There aren't enough resources, so some people are going to have to go.  I can envision a good deal of fighting between people for resources if people can't get along, and those such as the Quarians and the Turians are likely to be the first to be snuffed out.

They can travel, but not as far or as quickly as they could before.  They would need to spread, colonise, and progress as a unified group of sentients in order to survive.  Otherwise, they're all doomed.

For Anderson, he must have not been hit by Harbinger.  He probably used the X button and jumped to the side and then followed Shepard into the beam after she came back to consciousness.

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Well, first of all, i'm BIG FAN of BIoWare, and start to be a fun from first Baldurs Gate, that was a great game and Mass Effect is a great game, perfect game, awesome trilogy, but...there are a few moments...
First: If that is the last story about Commander Shepard - mb should make DLC about rest of life of Shepard with some parts of his life..you know..to watch how good it after all...and same about crew, with some talks with companions and other stuff, and some decisions about how you want to see it, to see rest of life ur crew and yourself...that's for people who like to stuff like "they lived happily ever after"
Second: That's rly bad idea to kill Shepard in almost all ways...
Third: I'd prefer to lose war without Crucible instead of seeing how i'm dying in try to destroy reapers, all systems were destroyed and my crew survive with...well..not best future.

Well just want to say we need retake mass effect 3.

As for me, i want to see how my shepard lives rest of his life with Liara and all races win in galaxy war against Reapers with using of Crucible.
That game rly took hearts of rly big part of game community, we all start to belive BioWare Games more than JUST A GAME! i Start to belive in those words after first Baldurs Gate, and i don't want let ppl think like it's not.

And ofc i'll hope it's an not true ending of game, because hope it's only left for us..otherwise we just a sintetics
Retake Mass Effect! 

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Not to wish you badly, but I will enjoy the Zero Punctuation critic of ME3...Yahtzee adores you, and he never showed mercy to those who ruin his gaming experience with bad endings.

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This was supposed to be a suggested fix thread, not people who like the ending attack us, or those of us who don't like it keep ****ing about it. This thread should be for constructive feed back to help fix the ending.

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DarthSyphilis59 wrote...

This was supposed to be a suggested fix thread, not people who like the ending attack us, or those of us who don't like it keep ****ing about it. This thread should be for constructive feed back to help fix the ending.


Agreed

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Flyers215 wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Then don't leave.  Leaving isn't a plausible option given the situation.  Without the mass relays, you're not going home and that's just something you'll have to accept, person not from Earth.  I actually don't know what Turians or Quarians eat, but I'm sure that we could synthesise something for them.  There are Quarians and Turians on Mars, so just replicate whatever it is that they're eating.

I don't believe Thessia was completely destroyed.  I believe it was just ravaged along with Earth & Palaven.  The planets are still habitable.  I'm sure the Quarians and Geth on Rannoch are the best off in this whole situation.  They're completely starting fresh on a planet that didn't get hit that hard by the war.  The Geth can help the Quarians rebuild, which is also what they were doing before the events of the showdown on Earth (at least for me).

What do you mean about Anderson?  He died on the Crucible before Shepard talked to The Child for me.  Shepard and he had a very, very touching heart to heart before he died at Shepard's side.  The Normandy crew situation is a harder one to explain.  Joker must have got cold feet and did a bunk after dropping you off on Earth.  The Normandy was in the middle of the firefight in Earth's orbit while Shepard had her boots down on the surface, so he could have left for some reason and then got caught in the explosion.  I still don't know how Joker himself survived the crash.  That's one of the bigger oversights I think I've ever seen.


Without intergalactic trade, there is no way to feed all the people stranded on earth, synthesized jelly foods or not.  Earth got most of its food from Eden Prime... an agricultural colony.  There are not enough resources in our solar system to sustain all those people.

For Anderson, I'm talking about the fact that he was able to get onto the Citadel completely unharmed.


I certainly didn't say it was a happy ending.  It's quite grim, actually.  Like I said in a previous post, trillions would die either to the Reapers or because of them.  There aren't enough resources, so some people are going to have to go.  I can envision a good deal of fighting between people for resources if people can't get along, and those such as the Quarians and the Turians are likely to be the first to be snuffed out.

They can travel, but not as far or as quickly as they could before.  They would need to spread, colonise, and progress as a unified group of sentients in order to survive.  Otherwise, they're all doomed.

For Anderson, he must have not been hit by Harbinger.  He probably used the X button and jumped to the side and then followed Shepard into the beam after she came back to consciousness.


Colonizing would be lovely, but all the planets near earth that could be colonized already are, and they can't get there for a 100 years anyway.  So they're all dead.  Period.

Modifié par BWGungan, 18 mars 2012 - 01:33 .


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Have they ACTUALLY Said anythign to all this? I mean 200+ pages...and jsut US?

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The indoctrination theory really gives me hope, no lie loool I'll admit i wasn't a big fan of the ending, but it's still an awesome game regardless.

I think people have to understand how much hard work goes into a game, let alone Mass Effect, and having that whole leaked script fiasco really is a punch to the face of the people working sooo hard on this game.

Yes we were promised an epic conclusion to Shepard's story with multiple endings depending on our choices throughout the whole trilogy, and we didn't get it; but the way the ending was set up gives hope to a bigger picture, something bioware can build on.

And if you're concerned about paying for DLC, don't you think a game of this scale, a game this good, deserves it? Enough people have probably pirated this game already (smh), and the developers don't deserve that. And they definitely don't deserve the abuse from raging fans, without them there would be no Mass Effect!

Believe in Bioware

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Favourite moment? A hundred little character gems:

I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my favourite spot on the Citadel!
Emer-gency-in-duction-port.
I am going to change my self-preservation code now.
Well, I did just write your name in the stars.
Someone else might have gotten it wrong.

Mass Effect was built on characters that we grew to like, love and believe in, which makes the endings all the more ill-suited, stripping all the prior decisions, consequences and conclusions out of the Mass Effect world.

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From my perspective, the ending NEEDS to be fixed in some form. While I am hoping that it does turn out to be a hallucination and that there is a happier ending in store for us, problems exist with the standing endings as well. Assuming there is no ending DLC and the endings remain as they are--then they are complete failures as endings for a trilogy. Endings tie things together and answer questions. They do not pose a new set of questions. Endings should be clear and free from confusion, or if they are confusing there ought to be a time when everything is explained. Unfortunately, the endings we have with ME3 do the exact opposite, and thus are failures in my opinion. Even IF we don't get new endings, I should hope what endings we have are made much clearer.

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trully....i just would like to get rid of the last 15 minutes and trully see how my decision did affect the finale................
the "destroying the relays" not welcome...I believe that should be one of the possible horrible endings because I was lazy and did horrible choices in my first 2 games and the third one....with my renegade Shepard.....he does needs to die....
But for my other Shepard.....need to see rewards for her astute and unselfish choices...
The entire sequence of blue green or red does not make sense..........

Example, I didn't know that saving the Rachni queen in ME1...and then again in ME3 would have repercussions on creating the crucible.....thank God I saved Kasumi Goto too...because she helped building the crucible........... if not, the crucible would have been half made......but still even if I would have killed them...........there was no change to the end....i just had the red option.

I don't know..can't believe Bioware didn't take into consideration all the lore they provided us in books, in the games, and DLCs Arrival into account.

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AeronGreed wrote...

The indoctrination theory really gives me hope, no lie loool I'll admit i wasn't a big fan of the ending, but it's still an awesome game regardless.

I think people have to understand how much hard work goes into a game, let alone Mass Effect, and having that whole leaked script fiasco really is a punch to the face of the people working sooo hard on this game.

Yes we were promised an epic conclusion to Shepard's story with multiple endings depending on our choices throughout the whole trilogy, and we didn't get it; but the way the ending was set up gives hope to a bigger picture, something bioware can build on.

And if you're concerned about paying for DLC, don't you think a game of this scale, a game this good, deserves it? Enough people have probably pirated this game already (smh), and the developers don't deserve that. And they definitely don't deserve the abuse from raging fans, without them there would be no Mass Effect!

Believe in Bioware


I am believing in bioware. 
let me say it and mean it. 
BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU. BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU. BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU!. 



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 Flirting with Tali on the Geth Dreadnaught mission. Ashley said, "can we talk about this later" with a get a room tone to her voice. I had t restart that and see how EDI reacted. "you needn't be circumspect, I know you became physically intimate aboard the Normandy"
Joker, "It's really great having Tali back, even if it's only temporary. But when you call her Miss vas Normandy I keep picturing her walking around with a tiarra and a sash."

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Rashala wrote...

Have they ACTUALLY Said anythign to all this? I mean 200+ pages...and jsut US?


HIghly doubt it, just like I haighly doubt they'll actually DO anything with all this feedback any way. We can dream though. We can dream...

Though a real ending to get the epic 'hell yeah! take that Reapers!' feeling -sacrificing Shepard to do it or not- and that made sense would be better by a country mile... or ten...

Modifié par taloris, 18 mars 2012 - 01:39 .


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In case you guys haven't seen it, here's the poll topic for the DLC ending:

[POLL] 'Official' Poll For Mass Effect 3 Ending DLC

It's having trouble staying afloat with these masses of topics, hopefully it gets stickied so that more people can see it and vote in it.

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JmyRoman wrote...

AeronGreed wrote...

The indoctrination theory really gives me hope, no lie loool I'll admit i wasn't a big fan of the ending, but it's still an awesome game regardless.

I think people have to understand how much hard work goes into a game, let alone Mass Effect, and having that whole leaked script fiasco really is a punch to the face of the people working sooo hard on this game.

Yes we were promised an epic conclusion to Shepard's story with multiple endings depending on our choices throughout the whole trilogy, and we didn't get it; but the way the ending was set up gives hope to a bigger picture, something bioware can build on.

And if you're concerned about paying for DLC, don't you think a game of this scale, a game this good, deserves it? Enough people have probably pirated this game already (smh), and the developers don't deserve that. And they definitely don't deserve the abuse from raging fans, without them there would be no Mass Effect!

Believe in Bioware


I am believing in bioware. 
let me say it and mean it. 
BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU. BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU. BIOWARE I BELIEVE IN YOU!. 





Well noww~ someone's indoctrinated ;)

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I just hope the peoples at BW are really reading these threads.
I hope they ignore the peoples who are outright blasting them disrespectfully.
I hope they are reading those great posts some peoples have posted that offer great material into future dlc.

Bioware you guys have what it takes make all these peoples who bad mouthed eat your shorts.

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Glyre wrote...

From my perspective, the ending NEEDS to be fixed in some form. While I am hoping that it does turn out to be a hallucination and that there is a happier ending in store for us, problems exist with the standing endings as well. Assuming there is no ending DLC and the endings remain as they are--then they are complete failures as endings for a trilogy. Endings tie things together and answer questions. They do not pose a new set of questions. Endings should be clear and free from confusion, or if they are confusing there ought to be a time when everything is explained. Unfortunately, the endings we have with ME3 do the exact opposite, and thus are failures in my opinion. Even IF we don't get new endings, I should hope what endings we have are made much clearer.


Yes....i do..
But I do believe those endings have destroyed the franchise....to the point of if nothing then happens, no fixing.....the game itself will be remember by me as the one that could be....but I trully will go fo something better and do forget about it, I am to the point of loving and be involved with the story........can't believe, just can't get into my mind they have done such a mediocre job with the endings....................

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My favorite moments in ME3:
1.Garrus Bromance. Garrus is just a total badass and I love the man like a virtual brother.
2.Grunt's near death.  Thought I lost him, but he pulled through. :)
3.Thane vs. Kai Leng....till Thane died. :(
4.Mordin. From beginning to end.
5.Gave Tali her home back, plus peace.
6.GarrusxTali...didn't see that coming.
7.Talking to every surviving friend, crew or not, before the final push.
8.Major Coats...Didnt think the guy from the teaser would appear.

I really hope you guy give us an answer either before April 6th on at PaxEast, just to give us "closure".

Still, the ride to the crap end, From thinking the Eden Prime mission was bigger then they are told, to ending the fight for good, was the most awesome thing since the creation of video games. Too bad the ending is just so off compared to the rest of the series, especially how good 99% of the third game is.

Edit:Can't believe I forgot the best part...Killing the douchebag Kai Leng.  God, I'm a pure paragon and I still wanted to kill him.

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There is no single moment I loved about this game. The entire game was filled with them. Mordin, Legion, Jack, Grunt the list goes on. Almost every priority mission and quite a few of the optional ones had something special for me. The feel and tone of the game, the growing sense of desperation was incredible.

The entire game was amazing until you meet the catalyst. After that I just couldn't face playing through it again. I really hope you guys work something out that more people like.

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www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Dammit all. I originally came out in support of the ending. I can't do it anymore.

I think I let my emotional attachment to the universe, to Kaidan, get in the way of common sense.

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The kind of ending we received was more than adequate for a video game.  The problem here is that this isn't your average video game, especially when it comes to story and a personalized experience.  You spent so much time developing this universe, fleshing out it's characters and showing us that our choices have weight that to take such a short-cut at the end spits on all the hard work the team at BioWare put into this project to begin with.  It felt cheap, rushed, and didn't provide us with the closer we or the Mass Effect universe itself deserves.  The Mass Effect trilogy still remains my favourite game of all time, but for the time being, will just have to remain unfinished in the hearts and minds of myself and many other gamers out there.

In a perfect world, BioWare will become the first game developer to rewrite and update an ending to an already completed project.

I would however like to take this opportunity to offer my deepest and most sincere thanks to the team at BioWare and everyone else responsible for the series for giving me some of the best gaming moments of my life and for telling a story that in many ways trancendes hollywood through it's use of interactive storytelling.


All the best,


Elliot  ^_^

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Two Points...

1.  The "Catalyst" AI kid who is the Citadel, by his mere existence
poses a problem for the Mass Effect Universe.  If he in fact controls
the Reapers then he must therefore be capable of communicating with them
(akin to Harbinger communicating with the collecters-ME2).  In this
case as the Citadel/living on the Citadel, he could have easily warned the Reapers of the
"Organic" plot (talked about on the citadel) involving the Crucible. 
Meaning that the Illusive Man's warning was unnecessary.  What is more
and far worse, the "Catalyst's" existence also nulifies the entirety of
ME1 cosidering that the Catalyst would not have required Sovriegn to
open up the Citadel to let the Reapers through (the computer Saren works on would be acsessing the Catalyst's hard drives).  Recall from ME1 the
citadel is a mass relay connected to dark space (can mass relays travel
through mass relays?).  Meaning Sovriegn would not have needed to take
control of the citadel to achieve such (the Catalyst already controled
it and could have opened it at any time).  Also the Catalyst would not
have chosen not to open it considering that the Crucible was needed to
present it with "other" solutions to the problem of organic life.  Aditionally the "problem" which the Catalyst kid puts forward is that
organics and synthetics will always war with each other; something
disproved by the unification of the Geth and Quarians (the real problem
is that Reapers "breed" by harvesting organics and organics do not like
being harvested).  Lastly in at least two of the endings the Citadel blows up-being a mass relay itself it would wipe out the sol system.

2.  When the energy of
the Crucible is released (regardless of way) it destroys the mass
relays.  Problem here is that the last time a mass relay was destroyed
(Arrival DLC) it wiped out the entire system it was in.  Now if the
Crucible merely altered the energy of the Mass Relays then the question
is why do the mass relays blow up if the "energy" is being transfered
from one relay to the next?  Would not the relays simply act as metal
does to electricity (having some scoring and perhaps being depleted of
energy)?  In which case they wouldn't blow up and would just need a
simple restart (possibly with Reaper drive cores).

I also reflect what others say in that ME3 is a 10/10 game with 0/10 (or worse) ending.

Bioware staff.  Look at   http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/
to know more please and thank you.