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[Sydeno]

Guess it has been already said, but i expect :

-to know what happens to Krogans about the genophage (in french... dunno what is the word in english)
-what happens to the crew, mates, aliens around the Earth, onto Earth,...
- very bad ending that depend on choices
- very good ending that depend on choices
- middle endingS that depend on choices
- Disney love story ending (And IIIIII will alwayyys looov... well... you know what I mean)
- Harsh time for Shepard, even his death still depending on choices we made.
- If you really wanna close his story, you can kill him of sickness, old age, etc. I trust you can find a good story about that...

Well, That's surely not all, but that's alread good points...

PS: I didn't say i loved your three games... So i say it: Whew, it was so great if we except the last "too short and the rest" part of the story. You surely made a great job guys...

PS: Wanna play ME 1, 2 and 3 more and more, but waiting for new endSSSS...

[stargatefan1990]

the Shepard story better not continue to Mass Effect 4 Because we were promised it was a Trilogy another mass effect game after or before Shepard? yeah sure but if Mass effect 4 is in the pipeline to continue Shepard's story i am done

[Mikk016]

After finishing the game I started telling friends who have not played ME3 yet to avoid it. I told them that it is not worth spending all that time to end up with a ghost/cyber/AI/star/whatever-kid telling you that it has all been in vain. If BioWare doesn't come out with more news about the future, then they can forget I will ever touch some of their products again.

[TuringPoint]

 I find this poem oddly appropriate to Shepard's end, both in ME2 and ME3.
It is also just a good poem, of course, with meaning that has nothing to do with Mass Effect.

"No lapidary's heaven, no brazier's hell for me,
For I am made of dust and dew and stream and plant and tree:
I'm close akin to boulders, I am cousin to the mud,
And all the winds of all the sky make music in my blood.

"I want a brook and pine trees; I want a storm to blow
Loud-lunged across the looming hills, with driven sleet and snow.
Don't put me off with diadems and thrones of chrysoprase;
I want the winds of northern nights and wild March days.

"My blood runs red with sunset, my body is white with rain,
And on my heart auroral skies have set their scarlet stain,
My thoughts are green with springtime, and in the meadow-rue
I think my very soul is growing green and gold and blue."

'What will be left I wonder, when death has washed me clean
Of dust and dew and sundown and April's virgin green?
If there's enough to make a ghost, I'll bring it back again
To the little lovely earth that bore me, body, soul, and brain." 

Poem by:  Odell Shepard (1884-1967)

Modifié par Alocormin, 18 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Talon Darkfire]

I've already posted my favorite moments on this thread, however I had a second thought and wanted to post it.

I really don't have any references to go with this, so take this as you will. I seem to remember someone saying that in times of hardship, bad economy or even war, people look to movies, TV and other forms of entertainment that depict happy endings - or at least stories that show that despite the odds, hard work and determination will win out, and truly anything is possible.

I don't know about everyone else, but I know that I am currently living in let's just say "not as comfortable as I was 3 years ago." I know that I had happy and triumphant endings with Mass Effect 1 and 2 - story arcs and endings that said "no matter the odds, you are Commander Shepard, and anything is truly possible." Ever since the preorder, I was excited for Mass Effect 3 looking again for a triumphant and happy ending based upon my hard work and the friends and relationships I built around me - something to take my mind off of the hard day-to-day.

For the entire game, that's what they gave me - hope, triumph, success against the impossible! But in the end, these hopes were not to be. I have to say that as a whole, I absolutely love Mass Effect 3. For the ending, I can give BioWare praise for a creative ending - one that isn't completely cliche - but just IMO, it didn't match the overall theme of Mass Effect - triumph against the impossible.

As a side note, for those that choose to read this - I know that BioWare is coming under a lot of fire for this ending (I'm right in the lines with you), but kudos to those keeping it constructive. I've seen a tweet to Chris Priestly that left me completely speechless as to its complete lack of tack and decency.

[toddmetzger]

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

[Cypher333]

Safoulan wrote...

Cypher333 wrote...

i just want to say that sheperd is wearing his armor when he wake up in the citadel, but it's almost destroyed by the explosion on earth. That's the only mistake i see in the indoctrination theory, saved by seeing sheperd waking up in the "perfect" destruction ending.

Which time Shep wakes up? Before or after the Destroy Choice?

Because it works both ways... anyway.

If Indoc Theory is wrong, Shep's armor melted when Harbingers Beam came close and he faded out on Earth.

If Indoc is correct, when Shep wakes up (either still on Earth or on the rubble of the Citadel, there's two possibilities, the Starchild MAY be the only Indoc Illusion [look it up!] ) the armor is melted as it should be.

I completely agree and believe in the indoctrination theory but i often read people say he doesn't wear is armor anymore that he is dressed in civilian, and that's just wrong, he's still wearing his armor after the explosion on earth, but it's destroyed. Sheperd outfit has nothing to do with the indoctrination.

[xaurabh123]

jeweledleah wrote...

Sheridan31 wrote...

Rock Gotti wrote...

Am I the only one that got the strategy guide?  Cause it clearly states on page 323 that you can have an ending where you can destroy the Reapers and Shepard lives.

You mean the red ending destroying the reaper and seeing shepard in the ruines?
Do you need 3000 aktive military forces for it?

Well i still do not understand a lot of things.I am unsure of what was indoctrination/a dream. Where the normandy is, where shepard is (citadel, still on the landing beam). What happens to the others and why does he survive what happens to the starchild etc.

I wish Bioware would not just listen but also explain.

I am really curious about the ending.

4000EMS.  not 3000.  and its near impossible to get with single player alone.  and by near impossible - I mean you have to metagame very specific decisions through all three games, and own every story DLC, with possible exception of arrival and you'd still be cutting it real close

this ending, Rock - is the basis for indocrination theory.  becasue destroy ending is the only one that goes against child's wishes, and its the only one that implies that Shepard lived.

that said?  no, bioware is not hiding a real ending.  what we got was it.  between the faunts music, the cheering hammer forces on the ground, and your best friend/LI /EDI or supposedly squadmate you are closest to - alive on some eden like planet - bioware though we'd have enough closure.

yeah... no.

and I'm not giving up untill there's a direct, official, clear statement from bioware, signed by one of the project leads that says: "we are keeping the ending as is, no ifs ends or buts"  at which point, I'll officialy move bioware into the same priority slot as Blizzard - aka no DLC purchases and only buy their new games if they are on deep deep sale (I'm talking cup of coffee kind of sale - 75% or more off)  and even then, only after reviews and spoilers.

its not a threat.  its my right as a consumer.

[GIEV DIZ PEEPHOLE AEYR]

there were amazing moments in this game. i'm talking my face pressed firmly against the computer screen moments.

-the fight on palavin's moon while we watch reapers attacking palavin in the background. awesome
-ending the genophage.
-thresher maw vs reaper
-taking back the citadel.
-tali returning to rannoch (on my next playthrough i will unite the geth and quarians.
-maurader sheilds' sacrifice :'( he will be remembered

but i am with everyone else on this forum. the endings......wow. i just feel so....empty. everything i have done has been for this? its like i met the woman of my dreams, dated her, fell in love, proposed, commited, im walking down the ailse seeing her, an angel, standing at the altar. i get there. its time to say my vows and in the middle of them she slaps me in the face, spits on me and then runs down the ailse and starts making out with my best friend. thats kinda what i felt like.
i know you're making dlc for this game, which is still an awe-inspiring game, just amazing in every sense of the word except for how it ends. just....make it mean something to us. us, who believed through it all that we could make a difference. dont abandon us to this abyss.

[Evil Minion]

I thought the endings were fine. Granted, they could've used some tweaking, but Bioware has ALWAYS been better at writing characters than writing plot. Personally, and I'm not trying to be offensive, but I've always found most of the Bioware game plots to be fairly generic. It's the characters that keep me coming back.

That said, the interaction with your squadmates was were ME3 really shined. The Liara romance was done beautifully. Garrus and Tali cracked me up several time ("Emergency induction port."). I loved the fact that Shepard himself was given more depth as a hero in that he starts showing signs that he's not sure if he can really save the galaxy from the Reapers. The dream sequences were a nice touch.

Furthermore, seeing how emotionally attached people are to this game, I get the feeling that there was going to be a lot of unhappy players regardless of how the story ended. We could've ended on a scene of Shep living in a white house with a dog and three blue children playing in the front lawn, and people would still have hated it. I think it's just the nature of the beast.

And thank you for posting this. It's appreciated. I will also be buying any DLC, comic books, novels, and toys you guys crank out in relation to ME3 because I thought ME3 was a blast and I had a great time with Commander Shepard.

See y'all in ME4.

[Skyblade012]

Hey, BioWare? You still there? Haven't heard from you guys lately. HELLO?!

Does anyone else actually think they are listening? I'm fairly sure they aren't. I seem to recall a couple dozen threads exactly like this over in the SWTOR board that have remained untouched by devs for nearly a year now.

They aren't listening, they never do, this thread is one of their attempts to shush fans up by clustering all the noisy ones in one place where they can be safely ignored.

[Wildhide]

Here's something I -did- like. I enjoyed all the interaction between your crew members. I was disappointed that it felt a bit at the expense of your own interactions with them, but it's nice to see them playing off each other, moving about and talking, etc. That fleshes them out, and it was the only redeeming quality for me in DA2.

[Grasich]

www.youtube.com/watch

[jeweledleah]

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

pages and pages and pages of people outlining the exact inconsistencies are.. what?  invisible?

like how the heck did completely unharmed Anderson made it into the beam before Shepard did?  where did illusive man come from - if you just look around the area, he's not there, and its a platphorm with barely visible roof.  why didn't catalyst just summon the reapers in ME1?  how come it didn't figure out the changes to the keepers?  what was the point of sovereign?  what the heck happened to the squadmates Shepard had with them, they were right behind one moment, and nowhere to be found the next (unless you have a very low EMS)  why was Joker somewhere off in space trying to outrun the shockwave, WITH your ground team on board?  how did the systems survive relay explosions?  (or did they?)  and those are just high points.

[Durontan]

Overall I just want to add that I really loved the game. From start to finish. I decided to black out the part after Hackett tells Shep to activate the Crucible. Up until then game is perfect and a real emotional rollercoster. So GZ Bioware for an awesome game.

Think players are only mad at the ending (I know I am) cause it ruined a perfect series, but I really do mean perfect series that Bioware made with so many awesome insane choices.

[joannadark1]

joannadark1 wrote...

The kind of ending we received was more than adequate for a video game.  The problem here is that this isn't your average video game, especially when it comes to story and a personalized experience.  You spent so much time developing this universe, fleshing out it's characters and showing us that our choices have weight that to take such a short-cut at the end spits on all the hard work the team at BioWare put into this project to begin with.  It felt cheap, rushed, and didn't provide us with the closer we or the Mass Effect universe itself deserves.  The Mass Effect trilogy still remains my favourite game of all time, but for the time being, will just have to remain unfinished in the hearts and minds of myself and many other gamers out there.

In a perfect world, BioWare will become the first game developer to rewrite and update an ending to an already completed project.

I would however like to take this opportunity to offer my deepest and most sincere thanks to the team at BioWare and everyone else responsible for the series for giving me some of the best gaming moments of my life and for telling a story that in many ways trancendes hollywood through it's use of interactive storytelling.


All the best,


Elliot  

After much reflection I feel kind of foolish that I didn't comprehend what actually transpired before now.  You really wanted to maximize our anticipation for DLC/ME4.  I don't think anyone has left us wanting more than you have.

I eagerly await what comes next.


Thank You,


Elliot  

[joannadark1]

Here's an enlightening video I'm sure everyone can appreciate

Mass Effect 3 - Shepard's Indoctrination
youtu.be/Tbghjn7_Byc

Modifié par joannadark1, 18 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[Durontan]

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

Before writing a stupid comment like that, take a look at pages and pages of players actually WRITING down the inconsistencies that happened all over the game ending, but better yet, think this link will answer all the inconsistencies of the game ending and reasons why fans hate the ending:

www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Take a good look at reasons 4, 3 and 2. Reason 3 explains the plotholes. My ending hate primary reason is reason 2

[NovaM4]

Favorite moment: When the Asari, Salarian, Quarians/Geth, Turian and the Humans jumped trough the Sol relay and began to attacking the Reapers.

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I really like to see a good ending where Shepard marries the one you romanced in the Mass Effect series. And your squad having the life they want and deserve. Shepard is a hero and all that. maybe the Stargazer is the kid of Shepards son.?

[Grasich]

Durontan wrote...

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

Before writing a stupid comment like that, take a look at pages and pages of players actually WRITING down the inconsistencies that happened all over the game ending, but better yet, think this link will answer all the inconsistencies of the game ending and reasons why fans hate the ending:

www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Take a good look at reasons 4, 3 and 2. Reason 3 explains the plotholes. My ending hate primary reason is reason 2

This. There are literally thousands of pages of people listing very detailed complaints about the endings and exactly what they think doesn't make sense, there are dozens of videos on youtube linked from all over detailing these same grievances. There are even dozens of reviews on other sites that list these same complaints. A lot of us are just tired in the meantime of repeating these same complaints 100 times, and so are focusing on other things, such as trying to get other people to understand that we aren't just complaining because we "disliked the game". We love the game and the series, which is precisely why there is so much outrage. It's just really hard to see a series we love so much ruined in the last 10 minutes.

[Johnathonm]

Hi anyone who reads this,

I have mapped out the progression post end boss battle. I don't know if this helps or what not but it's been sitting with me the various justifications given by the Catalyst/Guardian and the empty ending.

If you do take a look at my map please let me know what can or should be corrected to reflect either the ending or proper cannon

I need a hobby... http://tinypic.com/r/flx3bk/5

Thanks,
J

[Naked David]

Everyones retarded endings are going to quickly make bioware doing something about the ending impossible. They didn't live up to expectations once, you guys are setting the bar out of reach so they probably going to release a youtube vid on our questions and call it a day. Then wait 3 or 4 years to release their next game and have their AWESOME marketing team sell you on it.

Hold the Line?

[Evil Minion]

Durontan wrote...

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

Before writing a stupid comment like that, take a look at pages and pages of players actually WRITING down the inconsistencies that happened all over the game ending, but better yet, think this link will answer all the inconsistencies of the game ending and reasons why fans hate the ending:

www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Take a good look at reasons 4, 3 and 2. Reason 3 explains the plotholes. My ending hate primary reason is reason 2

So what?

I've read the countless complaints and there are a few I agree with, and many, many I don't.

Overall, I was fine with the endings. I understand why people aren't, and I even respect their viewpoint, but what I absolutely don't agree with is that we all are required to share the same opinion. Sorry, but taste is subjective, and there is no "correct" way to feel about the game.

But there's no justification for calling other people's opinions "stupid" or for heaping abuse on the devs.

[Wildhide]

jeweledleah wrote...

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

pages and pages and pages of people outlining the exact inconsistencies are.. what?  invisible?

like how the heck did completely unharmed Anderson made it into the beam before Shepard did?  where did illusive man come from - if you just look around the area, he's not there, and its a platphorm with barely visible roof.  why didn't catalyst just summon the reapers in ME1?  how come it didn't figure out the changes to the keepers?  what was the point of sovereign?  what the heck happened to the squadmates Shepard had with them, they were right behind one moment, and nowhere to be found the next (unless you have a very low EMS)  why was Joker somewhere off in space trying to outrun the shockwave, WITH your ground team on board?  how did the systems survive relay explosions?  (or did they?)  and those are just high points.

I completely forgot about the keepers!  If the Catalyst was on the Citadel all this time, he would have KNOWN the Protheans popped in and changed them.

[Jamie9]

Evil Minion wrote...

Durontan wrote...

toddmetzger wrote...

I really hope the endings aren't ruined because a few people are moaning about them not being happy, complain about plot holes but never give any examples of such inconsistencies or complain about them "not making sense" when they make perfect sense.

Before writing a stupid comment like that, take a look at pages and pages of players actually WRITING down the inconsistencies that happened all over the game ending, but better yet, think this link will answer all the inconsistencies of the game ending and reasons why fans hate the ending:

www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Take a good look at reasons 4, 3 and 2. Reason 3 explains the plotholes. My ending hate primary reason is reason 2

So what?

I've read the countless complaints and there are a few I agree with, and many, many I don't.

Overall, I was fine with the endings. I understand why people aren't, and I even respect their viewpoint, but what I absolutely don't agree with is that we all are required to share the same opinion. Sorry, but taste is subjective, and there is no "correct" way to feel about the game.

But there's no justification for calling other people's opinions "stupid" or for heaping abuse on the devs.

I'm glad you were happy. You may keep your ending the way it is. I don't think your opinion is stupid, or any others who agree with the ending. I do, however, believe the majority of players were unhappy and wanted our choices to make a difference at the ending.

I do not condone any abuse at the dev team, or anyone in fact. I do despise their current strategy though.