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[pcdvd1]

greetings bioware, would like to start by saying mass effect is not a game, its a story, simular to a book or a movie, and a great one that has struck me directly in the hearth! i loved it since day one, mass effect 1,2 and 3 (well the ending...im comming to that )

i understand that my oppinion is just one of many thousands but probably simular to all the others.

mass effect 2 was pure briliance, to take care of such a big crew, building up for the final confrontation with the collectors with the knowledge that if it isnt done correctly, someone might accualy die!!
I did my job, unfortunaly Moradin died, but alas was the only cassualy in the collector base,
(have to give that another playthrou so i can see him die valiantly on Tuchanka instead, yeeea i read the spoilers)

also in game 2 i ditched Liara and went for a romance with Tali, in game 3 i almoast cried as we retook the quarian homeplanet,

THE ENDING- Left me sleepless for a few nights, what the hell just happened ? how can 3 games, 5 years of briliant script wrap it up in such a way, this spacekid comes out from nowhere. explain to me is sheppard taken by the reapers in the same way as the illusive man ? or was that kid for real ? some kind of edi ? i dont know, and all the ending, (9?? if i read my spoilers right) didnt change the outcome of the relationships build over the past 3 games,
i can go on about the loopholes in the endings but im sure u already had enough of that. but atleast one ending should bring the crew back together, with mass relays destroyed or not...

i guess i was expecting a simular final mission as in ME2 with peoples life on the line, i was ready for that, i was ready to saccrifice earth if so needed, and the moon....and mars! ye ALOT, but not on that scale you gave me..NO!

i didnt expect a fairytale ending, but when tali started to talk about beachhouses and stuff...man i was virtualy in love for the first time....to know sheppard will never see her again however i play throu the game...=/

There was alot of talk about how all your actions would shape the ending, when i was close. talked to my team before heading out and tali remembered me what had ben said on her homeworld(i dont remember the name) i could already see the ending movie in my mind, sheppard holding tali, with garrus at there side in the middle of a burning london, watching reapers fall from the sky and the sun to shine throu the clouds....pretty close to fairytale but london(earth) is still devestated.

long post, i tried to tell my wife but she wouldnt listen! had to get it off my chest,
please BIOWARE, i want a romance ending, a ending where the crew, friendship and love shaped over the course of years, can stay alive!
keep up the good work, its fine you bring some twisted, new, wierd ideas into the storys, it just makes it more intresting, but this time you overdid it..

[EnforcerWRX7]

Bioware...

I opened my social account just to post here.

I dedicated 5 years to my personal Shepard. I watched every moment and hung on each action like it actually mattered in real life. I defended your decisions to people everywhere when ME2 played more like an action game. It was the story that mattered.  I even downloaded "from Ashes" because I didn't mind giving you a few more dollars!

I loved ME3 all the way to the final 5 minutes. I honestly felt sick when I saw the ending.  It was the same feeling I get when something devasting in my life happens. Similar to a breakup or a friend dying.  I felt like I wasted hours and hours of my life. I'll never get that time back. You shoved some half finished, plagiarized ending in my face after all the personal time and money I wasted on the mass effect series.  Its like you got to the end and had an intern slap on some pictures and spaceship.

I've had several days to take it all in and even even think about WHY you did it. It doesn't make any sense.

Unless this is the biggest twist in all of video game history you need to scrap the current ending and re-write it with free DLC. Here is why:

1. No point to the ending.
-- Even if you wanted to leave some things to "reader" that would have been ok. But you didn't.   You left everything on the table and then slapped on an ending that didn't make any sense. You didn't even attempt to explain anything. How did love interest and a crew member get back onto the Normandy? WHY was joker in FTL between relays? That doesn't make any sense, at all. Starchild? 3 endings that all lead to the same pointless planet with 3 of your crew?  You know to populate that planet what their kids have to do with each other?  Disgusting.  What were you thinking? None of it makes any sense to the reader.

2. Stealing media.
-- You stole media and ideas. You copied photos and used an album cover from a band.  You even stole the lyrics from the song to write the ending.  How lazy can you get? You almost ripped of BSG. Why? You had a PHENOMENAL story and then you threw it away at the end with stolen pictures and media.

3. Lies about the ending
-- You promised over arching story conclusions and specifically said you wouldn't do "A", "B", and "C". Well, you did just what you said you wouldn't do.  My love interest is gone.  My crew is god-knows-where.  The galaxy is in a state of "wth" and you lied about everything else.  You lied to everyone.

4. Required MP to see the real ending
-- You forced people into multiplayer to get a high enough score to keep Sherpard alive. I like MP but some people do not. Bad move bioware. You lied to the community about that too.


So, in the end what were my favorite parts? Probably everything in ME3 except the time and money I wasted getting to the end.

Unless the ending is changed or you were tricking us all along, I will not buy another bioware product again. I am voting with my wallet.

Change it or lose the money.  That's the bottom line.  This is the worst ending in video game history.

Modifié par EnforcerWRX7, 19 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[ObiGunKenobi]

     Wow, what an EPIC FAIL.  I used to be Mass Effects biggest fan.  I told everyone I could what a unique, exciting, fun to play, well written game it was.  I thought it had as good a story and acting as some of my favorite movies.   I pre ordered the collectors edition as early as I could.  I don't always buy New Games, but I do buy games new that I feel are worth it, and I don't ever trade in the classics.  The Mass Effect series once fell under this category.  Not any more!
     
     I wish I would not have bought this game, I was literally ripped off!  Is there somewhere I can get my money back?  Nothing that was promised in this game was delivered.  Why should I work on being a Paragon/Renegade if it makes no difference in the end anyway?  Why save the Geth, Krogan,  Quarians, etc. etc. etc.?  Please tell me how any decision I did make through all 3 games had any actual bearing on the way this game ended?  Isn't that what BioWare touted? "Your decisions will carry over and give you different endings based on your choices made throughout all 3 games.  "How important the decisions you made were going to be."  What a lie!  This is the most bogus advertising I have ever seen.
     
     I have never, EVER been so disappointed with an ending in ANYTHING, as I was in this game.  Not because I needed Shephard to live (it should end that way though, hint, hint), but because it has NO ending, no closure.  There were so many things left unanswered, it would take too long to post them all here.  Not to mention the ending made no sense and was contradictory "We have to kill organics to save organics."  Wow, that makes a lot of sense.  So in order to "save" organics they have to  be turned into mushy goo and become reapers?  Is it just me that sees the contradicion here?  Really?   Your writers couldn't do better than that?   Pac Man and Mrs. Pac Man have better, more complete endings.
   
     I used to love BioWare.  I thought they had style, panache, class, creativity, ETHICS, etc.  Unfortunately, after this atrocity, I see they posess none of these qualites.  What really hurts is the lies, the lack of ethics in creating this game.  The total disregard for the loyal fans in this game.  Those of us who spent hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours of our lives, will never be truly compensated if this ending is not fixed.  Are we just dollar signs?  I know EA treats everyone like dollar signs, but I expected more of BioWare.  I guess when they sold out to EA, they really "sold out."
   
     I have no desire to play any of BioWare's/EA's games again. I will not purchase or rent any more of their games unless the ending is fixed, and quickly.  It's that old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."  I am also a Dragon Age follower (even though DA 2 sucked pretty bad), I know now it just gets worse as the games go on.  I'm glad I won't be wasting my money in the future.

      I really enjoy the line by Bioware about wanting a "Polarizing" and "different" ending.  Well they did at least accomplish part of that, they did "polarize" their fan base.  They polarized the fan base into collectively never purchasing any of their products ever again.  Every website, blog, forum, I see 99% hate this game and feel robbed by BioWare/EA.  I have never seen such a huge backlash/ negative upswell from fans over a game in my life.  Even the mainstream media has noticed.  I hope you guys get a clue.  Fix this ending while you still can!  Everyday this continues to go on, and more people finish the ending without it being fixed, the worse it gets for your reputation and longevity.  Do something now!  At least promise the public a patch/fix if you don't have an alternate ending tucked away already.   Otherwise you might as well fold up shop.  I don't see you getting enough sales from your future games to keep you in business if you don't.  Most of us are crossover fans and own other BioWare/EA games.  For your sake, I hope you don't understimate the real impact this has had on your companies reputation and future sales.

      It's too bad, up until the last 10 minutes, the Mass Effect series were the most beautifully written and best games I had ever played.  Then they were ruined, and all the previous perfection was made irrelevant by the worst ending in the history of games.  What a waste!  Like I said in the beginning, "Epic Fail!"

[Bank92]

I loved every bit of the game, but what I wanted was a proper epilogue. The ending to me was a great way to start debates that can dwell into philosophy but I wished the ending has a long cinematic that showed what happened after the ending and shows what the various civilizations did and what happened after (Like with dragon age origins.), instead of the jump after the credits to dozens of years later to two people we didn't know.

[Piszi]

Doofe2012 wrote...

I'll keep this short and to the point. Bioware, if you are really listening, please release some sort of ending DLC that makes it so Shepard and his/her LI (even if the LI has to be a squadmate) can be together in the end.

This can be the only DLC ending or it can be part of an array of varied endings that are actually different from the current 3. I simply can't accept that Shepard is either dead and/or separated from his/her LI forever, though. It's too emotionally painful. Seeing the ending for the first time broke my heart.

Are you suggesting that you want bring your LI to Citadel and die together? Or you want a happy ending?
For me its ok that Shep dies I was prepared for this since BW told us this episode will be the end of Commander Shepard's journey but at least it would be nice if you could radio your LI and tell her/him that you wont make it and tell her/him to be safe and happy when you are gone.

[shepLJ]

Despite my reservations I replayed the whole of ME3 - for the majority of the game it is often sheer brilliance - story, plots and the converging to the finale. I think my objection is that the emotional connection that I am sure many fans have developed with the series seems to have been left unfinished. Sure there is validity in the critique of the similiarity of the endings -polarized and the bification to synthesis which argueably would be the true alturists choice - however it would have been more emotionally valid to people to have a epilogue - death and rememberance/ synthesis and transcendance/ survival and continuity - bottom line - we love celebration and reunion and the sense of overcoming the odds (ME2 - did this brilliantly). We want to believe that love and our struggle will be rewarded - we want lots of little blue children. The endings - even Shep still alive - breaks our hearts when we so wish to celebrate - brilliant perhaps but not fulfilling.  I think ME3 shone with the relationships - especially the love between Shep and Liara. My favourite - so many but I keep returning to Thessia and the Asari battle with the reapers - heart breaking.

Like any heartbreak - maybe we just need time to heal.

[MisterP146]

"And when you know the ending is hopeless, you lose all desire to attain it. Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic game, but it makes the entire series unplayable"

http://gamer-uk.co.u...-mass-effect-3/ (source)

I could not have said it better myself. And that is exactly why I cannot bring myself to play any game within the trilogy until there is some form fix for the ending.

[LeesyB]

First, I loved 99% of the game.  The relationships were deep, the writing was amazing, and the combat was so much fun.  I might make another post about everything that I loved, but this forum is mostly about the ending, so let me get straight to the point.

Everyone has raised extremely valid points regarding the ending, and I also want to do my part to make sure that the developers have a clear understanding of our expectations. Between reading various tweets and Casey’s letter I have come to the conclusion that Bioware and us are just not on the same page.

 From reading your responses on this thread I have decided, and correct me if I'm wrong, that we had three (fairly
easy to meet) requirements with regards to the ending:

1.     It needs to make logical sense and be consistent with Shepard and with Mass Effect lore

2.     Our choices need to have mattered (i.e. a number of different endings)

3.     The narrative needs to be wrapped up sufficiently, since it is Shepard’s last story

Now, in terms of the endings we were given…

If the indoctrination thing is true, then congratulations Bioware – I think it’s genius.  And from reading the forums I think a lot of people agree with me.  HOWEVER, we were promised (by you) a real ENDING with few loose ends.  We were promised that our Shepard’s story would be wrapped up, for better or for worse.  If the indoctrination theory is true then almost nothing is wrapped up, except Shepard wrapped up in rubble underneath Harbinger (dumb joke, sorry). 
In terms of my requirements above, the indoctrination ending covers requirement 1, 2 remains to be seen, and it does not meet requirement 3.

If we are to take the ending at face value (i.e. no indoctrination) then…. well… I think that many people have covered the many holes and inconsistencies with the ABC/RedGreenBlue endings.  Things are sort of wrapped up I guess – Reapers have been dealt with and our crew is marooned on a jungle planet somewhere.  Obviously we are still left with questions but the loose ends have been relatively tied together.
So, the Red/Green/Blue non-indoctrination ending meets requirement 3 but not 1 and 2.

I don’t think that my requirements are too hard to meet, and it should be easy to fix with a DLC…

I also wanted to talk about the “bittersweet” ending issue.  Do we want a “happy” ending wherein we ride into the sunset with our LI (Kaidan’s been through enough, afterall)?  Probably many of us did, or at least I did.  However, this is BESIDE THE POINT.  The main thing that we are upset over is the lack of consistency with Mass Effect lore and the fact that our choices throughout the three games seem to have had little bearing on the
trilogy ending.  So, although an option for a happy ending would have been lovely, I STILL would have been disappointed with the current ending as it does not meet my requirements, as listed above.

In conclusion, I hope that Bioware owns up to the awesome indoctrination ending and releases a post-ending DLC (that I will even pay for, although I understand if people want it for free).  If it meets my requirements then I will be 100% satisfied, although a happily ever after never hurt anyone The vast majority of the game was amazing and I know that Bioware is extremely capable, so I still have hope. 

WHO’S WITH ME???  And in the meantime…. Stay polite, stay civil, but most importantly, HOLD THE LINE!!!!!!
(edited for weird formatting)

Modifié par SugarKane, 19 mars 2012 - 02:19 .

[MisterP146]

SugarKane wrote...






















First, I loved 99% of the game.  The relationships were deep, the writing was
amazing, and the combat was so much fun. 
I might make another post about everything that I loved, but this forum
is mostly about the ending, so let me get straight to the point.

 

Everyone has raised extremely valid points regarding the
ending, and I also want to do my part to make sure that the developers have a
clear understanding of our expectations. 
Between reading various tweets and Casey’s letter I have come to the
conclusion that Bioware and us are just not on the same page.

 

From reading your responses on this thread I have decided, and correct me if I'm wrong, that we had three (fairly
easy to meet) requirements with regards to the ending:

1.     It
needs to make logical sense and be consistent with Shepard and with Mass Effect lore

2.     Our
choices need to have mattered (i.e. a number of different endings)

3.     The
narrative needs to be wrapped up sufficiently, since it is Shepard’s last story

 

Now, in terms of the endings we were given…

 

If the indoctrination thing is true, then congratulations Bioware
– I think it’s genius.  And from reading
the forums I think a lot of people agree with me.  HOWEVER, we were promised (by you) a real
ENDING with few loose ends.  We were
promised that our Shepard’s story would be wrapped up, for better or for worse.  If the indoctrination theory is true then
almost nothing is wrapped up, except Shepard wrapped up in rubble underneath
Harbinger (dumb joke, sorry). 

In terms of my requirements above, the indoctrination ending
covers requirement 1, 2 remains to be seen, and it does not meet requirement 3.

 

If we are to take the ending at face value (i.e. no
indoctrination) then…. well… I think that many people have covered the many
holes and inconsistencies with the ABC/RedGreenBlue endings.  Things are sort of wrapped up I guess – Reapers
have been dealt with and our crew is marooned on a jungle planet
somewhere.  Obviously we are still left
with questions but the loose ends have been relatively tied together.

So, the Red/Green/Blue non-indoctrination ending meets
requirement 3 but not 1 and 2.

 

I don’t think that my requirements are too hard to meet, and
it should be easy to fix with a DLC…

 

I also wanted to talk about the “bittersweet” ending
issue.  Do we want a “happy” ending
wherein we ride into the sunset with our LI (Kaidan’s been through enough,
afterall)?  Probably many of us did, or
at least I did.  However, this is BESIDE
THE POINT.  The main thing that we are
upset over is the lack of consistency with Mass Effect lore and the fact that
our choices throughout the three games seem to have had little bearing on the
trilogy ending.  So, although an option
for a happy ending would have been lovely, I STILL would have been disappointed
with the current ending as it does not meet my requirements, as listed above.

 
In conclusion, I hope that Bioware owns up to the awesome indoctrination ending and releases a post-ending DLC (that I will even pay for, although I understand if people want it for free).  If it meets my requirements then I will be 100% satisfied, although a happily ever after never hurt anyone The vast majority of the game was amazing and I know that Bioware is extremely capable, so I still have hope. 







 

WHO’S WITH ME???  And
in the meantime…. Stay polite, stay civil, but most importantly, HOLD THE
LINE!!!!!!

Hold the line

[AwefulShot]

jeweledleah wrote...

AwefulShot wrote...

I'm just not sure what a 'good' ending would have been? Well other than both Ashley and Miranda deciding to share Shep...

Seriously, what was a good ending going to look like? The Mass Relays were always going to be a threat as they were based on the same technology. Had the 'advanced races' work them out, the first one to do so would rule the galaxy and perhaps be a bigger threat than the Reapers.

Not saying the endings were as expected, but I guess I don't know what I expected?

All I really think is required is a small downloadable (for free) epilogue detailing the aftermath of Sheps choice. Any game play that changed the ending(s) for me at this stage would cheapen the series as a whole.

why would relays be a threat?  technology is not inherently evil  only what we do with it.  there's nothing wrong with using technology created by someone else, reverse engineering, building up on something already discovered by others.

if the galactic society is preserved, then the relays end up being what they are prior to Reaper invasion.  a source of travel.

The race (and they didn't all play nice) that could control the Mass Relays would have ultimate control over the comings and goings about the universe.  In some ways without the Reapers to keep things in check it would end up like the Prometheans of old.  Imagine what the ME universe would have looked like if they had kept power.  The Prometheans acted like mini-reapers, wiping out the weak etc.  The Repears wiped out the strong, giving the weak a chance.  The races of this cycle should be thanking the Reapers (ok, up until the point the Reapers came back...).

Just saying... :happy:

[bazzag]

SugarKane wrote...

First, I loved 99% of the game.  The relationships were deep, the writing was amazing, and the combat was so much fun.  I might make another post about everything that I loved, but this forum is mostly about the ending, so let me get straight to the point.

Everyone has raised extremely valid points regarding the ending, and I also want to do my part to make sure that the developers have a clear understanding of our expectations. Between reading various tweets and Casey’s letter I have come to the conclusion that Bioware and us are just not on the same page.

 From reading your responses on this thread I have decided, and correct me if I'm wrong, that we had three (fairly
easy to meet) requirements with regards to the ending:

1.     It needs to make logical sense and be consistent with Shepard and with Mass Effect lore

2.     Our choices need to have mattered (i.e. a number of different endings)

3.     The narrative needs to be wrapped up sufficiently, since it is Shepard’s last story

Now, in terms of the endings we were given…

If the indoctrination thing is true, then congratulations Bioware – I think it’s genius.  And from reading the forums I think a lot of people agree with me.  HOWEVER, we were promised (by you) a real ENDING with few loose ends.  We were promised that our Shepard’s story would be wrapped up, for better or for worse.  If the indoctrination theory is true then almost nothing is wrapped up, except Shepard wrapped up in rubble underneath Harbinger (dumb joke, sorry). 
In terms of my requirements above, the indoctrination ending covers requirement 1, 2 remains to be seen, and it does not meet requirement 3.

If we are to take the ending at face value (i.e. no indoctrination) then…. well… I think that many people have covered the many holes and inconsistencies with the ABC/RedGreenBlue endings.  Things are sort of wrapped up I guess – Reapers have been dealt with and our crew is marooned on a jungle planet somewhere.  Obviously we are still left with questions but the loose ends have been relatively tied together.
So, the Red/Green/Blue non-indoctrination ending meets requirement 3 but not 1 and 2.

I don’t think that my requirements are too hard to meet, and it should be easy to fix with a DLC…

I also wanted to talk about the “bittersweet” ending issue.  Do we want a “happy” ending wherein we ride into the sunset with our LI (Kaidan’s been through enough, afterall)?  Probably many of us did, or at least I did.  However, this is BESIDE THE POINT.  The main thing that we are upset over is the lack of consistency with Mass Effect lore and the fact that our choices throughout the three games seem to have had little bearing on the
trilogy ending.  So, although an option for a happy ending would have been lovely, I STILL would have been disappointed with the current ending as it does not meet my requirements, as listed above.

In conclusion, I hope that Bioware owns up to the awesome indoctrination ending and releases a post-ending DLC (that I will even pay for, although I understand if people want it for free).  If it meets my requirements then I will be 100% satisfied, although a happily ever after never hurt anyone The vast majority of the game was amazing and I know that Bioware is extremely capable, so I still have hope. 

WHO’S WITH ME???  And in the meantime…. Stay polite, stay civil, but most importantly, HOLD THE LINE!!!!!!
(edited for weird formatting)

Hear Hear!

[GIEV DIZ PEEPHOLE AEYR]

Shallyah wrote...

GIEV DIZ PEEPHOLE AEYR wrote...

oh........AND TALI BEING DRUNK IS ADORABLE!!!!!

Tali is pure love. I find so very sad that all the incredibly 10/10 awesomeness that the ME trilogy is would get overshadowed by a poor ending choice.

It's not the way I want to remember this game, it deserves much more.

i romanced liara in 1, tali in 2 and liara again in 3. next playthrough will be tali all the way. she is just too cute. :3
it is sad. hope they fix it but if they dont then all the good PR strategies in the world will not save them from death by fanbase alienation.
now if you'll excuse me, imma sippy mah induction port kthnx.

[Piszi]

SugarKane wrote...

If the indoctrination thing is true...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

[chkchkchk]

COMING SOON: "CLOSURE & SATISFACTION", THE THRILLING NEW DLC CHAPTER FOR MASS EFFECT 3.

*ahem*

This ending was such a bizarre approach to what is essentially the comfort food of scifi. Mass Effect is a homage to genre tropes, so I'm not here to have my mind blown. I'm not expecting some Stanley Kubrick transcendental space magic. For me, Bioware games have always been about leading a rag-tag group of heroes on an impossible quest. It's always been about the characters. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a happy "drinking beer with Garrus on a beach covered in Reaper corpses" ending in a game that is all about stroking the player's ego. Sure, each character's story arc is concluded before the finale, but then all this craziness goes down that calls it all into question.

Even if I don't get to have little blue babies, it'd be nice to know how Liara feels about the most important event in the history of anything. How does she feel about being stranded on some planet where in all likelihood she'll be eaten by a wild animal in the next two hours? How does she feel about not knowing what happened to me? Does she know I just played Space Jesus on the Citadel? Does she think I'm dead? (I'm not!) How do any my crewmates feel about this? Do they know the Reapers have been defeated or have they been too busy learning how to teleport? Some kind of indoctrination-influenced dream sequence is the only explanation for how Liara and Garrus found their way onto the Normandy. But you know, I'd be able to handle some wild plot holes like that if only I knew how the characters felt. Did they see me take that Reaper beam to the face? Did they get hit too? Does anybody realize that I'm actually lying in a pile of rubble in London and still alive?

And I'd pay money for epilogue DLC, which is a testament to how much I loved every moment of this franchise. This kind of situation isn't unprecedented. The anime Neon Genesis Evangelion had a rushed/incomprehensible ending that enraged fans so much they sent the studio death threats. (I don't think anyone here is THAT angry.) In response, the studio animated a new ending that expanded on the original without contradicting it. I thought it was a strong addition to the franchise. Just saying.

[xScarecrowX]

I get now that no one really gets the endings. They were rushed and too vague. But...What the *Bleep* was the child?! Some water kid comes up and asks Shep to go into a blue, red, or green light and she's just supposed to say "Ok!" My Shep would have at least questioned it a bit before making a choice that *could* have effected the entire galaxy.

On a positive note, I loved the rest of the game. Legion's death made me cry! And the Kaidan romance was perfect! I would have liked a Joker and/or a Vega romance, though...

[TemplarsLegion]

I just wanted too live on Rannoch with tali for the rest of my days..then i can die in peace

[wintermaul55]

Piszi wrote...

SugarKane wrote...

If the indoctrination thing is true...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

Go on Youtube and look it up...
And
I cant wait for Dragonage to end up like mass effect! 

[xScarecrowX]

wintermaul55 wrote...

Piszi wrote...

SugarKane wrote...

If the indoctrination thing is true...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

Go on Youtube and look it up...
And
I cant wait for Dragonage to end up like mass effect! 

Maker, I hope not!

[jeweledleah]

AwefulShot wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

AwefulShot wrote...

I'm just not sure what a 'good' ending would have been? Well other than both Ashley and Miranda deciding to share Shep...

Seriously, what was a good ending going to look like? The Mass Relays were always going to be a threat as they were based on the same technology. Had the 'advanced races' work them out, the first one to do so would rule the galaxy and perhaps be a bigger threat than the Reapers.

Not saying the endings were as expected, but I guess I don't know what I expected?

All I really think is required is a small downloadable (for free) epilogue detailing the aftermath of Sheps choice. Any game play that changed the ending(s) for me at this stage would cheapen the series as a whole.

why would relays be a threat?  technology is not inherently evil  only what we do with it.  there's nothing wrong with using technology created by someone else, reverse engineering, building up on something already discovered by others.

if the galactic society is preserved, then the relays end up being what they are prior to Reaper invasion.  a source of travel.

The race (and they didn't all play nice) that could control the Mass Relays would have ultimate control over the comings and goings about the universe.  In some ways without the Reapers to keep things in check it would end up like the Prometheans of old.  Imagine what the ME universe would have looked like if they had kept power.  The Prometheans acted like mini-reapers, wiping out the weak etc.  The Repears wiped out the strong, giving the weak a chance.  The races of this cycle should be thanking the Reapers (ok, up until the point the Reapers came back...).

Just saying... :happy:

you are going by the assumption that this cycle is bust no matter what.

except?  its not.  Shepard forged alliances, united various races..  we alreayd have a system where individuality is welcome and not one race controls the relays.  its not a perfect system, but its far from the prothean Tyranical regime.
technology is NOT the enemy.  its an ally.

[tookrunk1991]

xScarecrowX wrote...

wintermaul55 wrote...

Piszi wrote...

SugarKane wrote...

If the indoctrination thing is true...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

Go on Youtube and look it up...
And
I cant wait for Dragonage to end up like mass effect! 

Maker, I hope not!

[chkchkchk]

Piszi wrote...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

My take on the theory:  Everything after you're hit by Harbinger's beam is an indoctrination-influenced dream sequence. The Reapers are doing to you what they probably did to the Illusive Man and Saren.  They play to your ego to make you think YOU are the one in control.  All of the choices except "destroy the Reapers" is a trick.  They try to convince you that you're badass enough to control them, but they did that to the Illusive Man too.  They try to convince you that the final glorious form of life will be a synthesis of organics and synthetics (evolution), which is what they pulled on Saren.  It's ultimately the same process that leads to all the abominations and tube goo.  And then all the weird stuff you see with the Normandy crashing on a lush garden world is a hallucination.

I think this would be fun if true, but I'd still rather see it as part of a more complete ending.  With closure and satisfaction and all that jazz.

Modifié par chkchkchk, 19 mars 2012 - 02:40 .

[SkullStrife]

Piszi wrote...

SugarKane wrote...

If the indoctrination thing is true...

Did I miss something? what's this indoctrination story thing?

A fan-made interpretation of the ending (which gives some sense to the "ending" and suggests that the real ending is coming), I really liked it, it really gives us hope  

Link of a very well made video explaining the theory

[jeweledleah]

well, I wrote down my own ideas, based on indoctrination theory but not completely incorporating it, if anyone is interested.

Alternate ending ideas

[Neuthung]

If there is any chance someone at BioWare sees this...

My reaction to the endings, and an explanation of my frustrations.