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[LadyIrithyl]

I just wanted to say that I loved Mass Effect. I sat down and played all three games investing in the characters and stories. I loved that my experiences were different from others I know who played the games.

I don't care so much that the mass relays were destroyed. Or that you really don't find out how the characters continued their lives (if they kept them)

What I do care about is the fact that I did everything in Mass Effect 3 single player to get my score up. My bar wars full! And I thought for sure that I was going to get the best possible outcome. So I saved earth. But Anderson died. (not that big of a deal)

But then my FemShep died. (not that big of a deal) UNTIL I went online and found out that she could live. Only if I played the multiplayer and other little add ons outside of the singleplayer game. This is not my Mass Effect. Mass Effect was my story, my choices and here was Bioware punishing me and my FemShep because I didn't want to play mulitplayer or the app game. Punishing me because I didn't want to join my story with others.

You took away the best possible ending of my FemShep living. You spoke about choices in a game and made by a player. And then it means nothing because you already decided if they live or die, just because you wanted people to get on board with a new feature added.

I'm not going to replay Mass Effect 3. I don't care now if my FemShep lived or died. If I could get my money back for this game I would. Again, its all because Bioware was forcing multiplayer and apps and other things outside of the single player to get the best possible ending of Shep living.

I've enjoyed the time I spent playing Mass Effect, and bioware games in general. But I probably won't any more. Knowing that this is a company that is going to force things onto their fans when they offered choices previously. I won't be playing Bioware games for a long time to come.

[ME_Girl]

Apart from the ending (which I do get, but it doesn’t feel fair, nor complete), I have to say that ME3 took the best from ME1 and ME2, and I absolutely loved everything about it. It’s such an emotional and overwhelming experience (I don’t even want to say 'game', it’s more than that).

The most memorable moment for me was talking to my LI – Kaidan, before the final battle. I very much appreciate being given such an intimate moment, thanks Bioware. It was so emotional, I just wanted to hold him and cry. I wish it lasted even longer, and I wish I had more intimate conversations with him throughout the game. Please do more of that in your future games, please, please...

Another memorable moment was Thane’s death. It was long time coming, but I felt such a pain watching him dying. And to know his last prayer was for me – I totally felt like crying. Just don’t make too many characters die to create moments like this

[alx119]

I think, what the Bioware staff needs, is...
TO WATCH DR WHO!
Woooo~

Seriously though, technology doesn't mean the anihilation of us all, and installing an almost omnipotent synthetic being telling you otherwise is plain awful and cocky. Worse is that Shepard goes along with it. Oh I have these choices? Sure, I'll listen to you whoever the **** you are. I won't stand for myself like I always did in the whole series!

[AnnikaShepard]

I had to register to let Bioware know what I think about the ending. And I’m here to complain. I beat the game over a week ago but I needed time to settle my thoughts before writing anything.

I’m a huge fan of Mass Effect and I just can’t get enough of that wonderful game series. I even ended up buying two copies of ME3 because my preorder wasn’t delivered in time.

Mass Effect 3 is such an amazing game. It’s nearly perfect. I enjoyed every single moment of the game.. and then the ending happened. The famous last 5 minutes of the game that destroyed everything we’ve enjoyed so far.

You guys have heard the same many times before and I’m here to say it again: the ending doesn’t make any sense and it completely destroys the amazing Mass Effect universe that we fans love so much. After spending hundreds of hours playing the ME-games and discovering what that diverse universe has to offer I had to see it getting destroyed. Fans don’t deserve that, I don’t deserve that, Shepard certainly doesn’t deserve that. The ending answers the question about the Reapers but leaves many more open. What the hell just happened to the Normandy and the crew? Joker would never coward for sure. Where is Shepard? Can she ever see the crew again? Why were the mass relays destroyed anyway? The Reapers were defeated but that didn’t require the
relays getting wiped out, right? So everybody is now just isolated wherever they happened to be at that moment. No more space traveling, no more co-operating with other species, just nothing. I hate the ending and it made me
cry.

I wanted a happy ending. I really did. I never thought that Shepard could reach the victory without sacrifices but she worked so hard for it. So a happy ending is realistic. Sacrifices were made all the time during the game; the biggest one for me was losing Thessia. Mass Effect 3 is filled with really emotional moments: some make you cry, some make your heart melt and some make you laugh out loud.

I wanted to see the Reapers getting destroyed. I wanted to see the relief on the faces of all the species. I wanted the Mass Effect universe to become a place of peace and happiness. I wanted to know that there’s a great future out there for everybody, that all the galactic species could live together in peace. I wanted Shepard to settle down with her love interest. I wanted her to talk about the little blue children one more time.
I certainly believe Shepard deserves that.

I’m complaining a lot but ME3 is absolutely amazing after all. I love almost everything. Stages, characters, emotional story, Javik, romance scenes, Shepard’s movement, heavy melee, guns, brilliant voice acting (I love you Jennifer Hale) and the list goes on. There are only minor things to complain about if we ignore the ending. The multiplayer mode turned out to be a fun new experience. I couldn’t stop playing when I got it; it’s definitely worth all the money and waiting. Then the ending takes place.

The ending made me hate everything for a while. I was shocked. I was desperate and angry at the same time. Playing Mass Effect is what I love, I know that a video game series is not supposed to bother anyone this much but it does. I was really down for a few days after completing the game but now I’m thinking clearly again. Mass Effect is not just a video game series after all; it’s so much more with the attachment it offers. It’s a way to escape reality to a universe filled with interesting characters, personalities, experiences, worlds, species, planets and decisions. It all feels so empty now.

Despite the horrible ending I am never going to stop playing my ultimate favorite game series even though I know that whatever I do can’t make a difference in the end. Playing the ME-games will never offer the same experience it used to. I just wanted a happy ending that leaves place for the next possible Mass Effect game.

Bioware: I love you for creating the greatest video game series ever but I hate you for ruining the ending. You can still make a difference. Let the fans have the ending they deserve and we are ready to love you again.

I’m surprised if someone actually read all that.

Modifié par AnnikaShepard, 19 mars 2012 - 10:35 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

IMO these things need to happen with ME3:

1. The single player campaign need to be completely separated from the multi-player game. In other words the Military Assets Acquired needs to be used for the EMS, and not multiplied by a percentage of Galactic Readiness. Why? Those without internet connection, iPad application, or who go back and play the game after the initial hype will be severely punished by the current system. I find the iOS application add on a slap in the face to people who can't afford those devices.

Also once my game glitched and I went to the war room with over 6000 in Military Assets, and had 0% Galactic Readiness and 0 EMS. Why? My router de-synched.

2. The endings.... four days have passed since I finished the game. ME3 was building up like "The Seven Samurai". Yes there were some plot holes, but okay, you could overlook them at this point. The Reapers had never faced a united and prepared galaxy before. The entire series was getting ready for the climactic battle where we'd finally with this Crucible & Catalyst kick the Reapers in the daddybags. I was expecting something epic.

It didn't matter to me if Shepard lived or died in the end, but I was expecting the result and the casualties to be the results of the hard work done in uniting the galaxy and acquiring the military assets, and the EMS which was sitting at 5800 in my final push. The adrenaline was flowing. It was going to be glorious and epic. But then... when Marauder Shields, our final boss, fired the warning shots of "Stop! You don't want to go in there!"... I should have known... then ... the ... story ... had the feeling of ... total... emptiness.... It was a total anti-climax. No epilogue. Just like... huh?

I shot the little starchild 18 times. Then picked Red destroy. Then went back to my last save and played to the end and picked Green. Then went back to my last save and played to the end and picked Blue. Then went back and redid and picked Red, just because Shepard gasped.

The endings were basically all the same, except for who got off the stranded Normandy. Mass relays gone. Citadel gone. Dextro DNA people who will starve to death. Or maybe no one is alive at all except for the three who got off the ship and those in pockets around the galaxy with no way of getting home.

The emotional heartaches during the 40 hours of game play leading up to the end, and this was the best you could do? You should be ashamed of yourselves. You left people trying to make sense out of the ending. You introduced new and contradictory material in the final scene. That is just bad writing. Red, Green, or Blue? what? You look at the RGB settings on your monitor?

If one has to spend four days trying to make sense and coming up with theories as to why the ending exists, there is no sense to be made. I don't believe in mystical stuff. It either exists or it does not. If it's not referenced by anyone it doesn't matter.

The endings were a complete rip off of the 2000 GOTY Deus Ex; Deus Ex Invisible War; and Deus Ex Human Revolution.

You gave us perhaps the best RPG series of the decade and for that I thank you. ME3 could easily have been GOTY. Better than Skyrim, but endings do matter a lot.

As it stands there is a total emotional disconnect at the end. It is like battle fatigue with nothing to show for it. Please do something to fix this... make these emotional heartaches worth something.... something like Bethesda did with the "Broken Steel" DLC for Fallout 3.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 19 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[dfdsgrgre]

Just wanna say i disliked the endings also but the rest was very good

Fav moment: Theres a Reaper in my way wrex!

[Archonsg]

Vox Doom wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

I would accept the indoctrination theory except for two things. First is game / plot centric and that is as is, ALL you are given are three choices. All 3 choices involves Shepard surrendering his will, he blindly accepts the choices given to him. I am sorry, but if you want to buy into this theory you have to then accept that Shepard, than, alive or not Shepard is gone. There was no fourth choice.

The fact is, Bioware gave us such a craptastic ending, even one that is so convoluted as the Indoctrination Theory is preferred. But you guys have to realize that they still would have to "re-write" the whole London thing and now come up with how to deal with a compromised (and in my opinion) unplayable Shepard. Because he Surrendered his will. 
Even if they were to add a "fourth" option via DLC, this still does not negate the fact that Shepard is compromised and now is not fit to remain in the role of the lead or playable character since his EVERY action thereafter is in question.

Better that since Bioware needs to re-write London anyways, for them to just come clean and say "we were wrong and FUBAR the ending, here's a new one where Shepard's choices counts, your companions count, your deeds and actions count and by god, an epilogue worthy of the epic that the Mass Effect series is, an epilogue to say "This was / is your Shepard and his/her achievements, thank you for playing and supporting the series." Asking for less, and accepting the current ending in any form is a disservice to yourself and those who see this for what it is, an incomplete product.

How is sticking to Shepard's whole "Got to destroy the reapers" code giving up free will?

It wasn't your choice. You blindly accepted 1 of three choices from an AI who is supposed to be in control of things who said "You live because we allow it. You end because we demand it." And guess what, those 3 "choices" were demands, you weren't given a choice. Or rather you were given a semblance of a choice and told to pick a manner of death, sweetened with a "carrot" to ease your "choice". That is IF I were to buy into this theory.

However, I don't. I see the the ending as is. This is what they gave, this is what we got and it was meant to be the real ending, illogical, nonsensical, plot hole filled, throw every decision, choice you made out the window ending.

[fayt002]

IGN is hosting a discusion of the mass effect 3 ending on the 24th, more media saying its a issue is a good thing.

[Chrisimo]

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

[bkp360]

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

How freaking weak are you??  It would take like 5 seconds to indoctrinate you.  Ohhhh let's keep it positive... let's not say the ending sucked big time.  Let's all just hold hands and sing songs until we forget we were unhappy cause BioPuke wants us too.


Get some dignity man.

[WordZee2]

 OK! I've been
waiting to give my opinion for awhile but I haven't had the time. For starters,
the game was fantastic! I loved everything about it and especially with Tali (I
romanced her in ME2 and again:D). The story was great, game play, and seeing all
the characters we've all come to love over the series is the best. *Spoiler* even
the saddest moments in the game were good: choosing to help the Geth kill the
Quarians, and Tali committing suicide was extremely emotional for me. 


Ok, I've gone over some of the game and now to the
disappointing topic: the ending. What is with the ending choices being so similar?
And to offer almost no explanation for events that took place during that less
than 10 minute cut scene, terrible. No real closure and again, explanation. I
don't mind having Shepard die, the hero can't always survive and walk away...
so no complaints there. I heard rumors of some DLC that is supposed to offer
closure or even a different ending? Keep the ending, but tell us what the hell
is going on! 



If Shepard takes control of the Reapers, can he
rebuild the mass relays? So everyone isn't stranded where they are in the
Galaxy? Why is Joker in the relay leaving the fight anyways? How did your squad
you had with you get to the Normandy after Harbinger took out Hammer? The
Quarians and Geth, Krogan, Asari, Turians, Rachni, (if you saved the queen)
HUMANS! Make a DLC that shows a future, everyone rebuilding, even the
Controlled Reapers rebuilding the relays for God’s sake! Maybe even a scene
showing your romance option in detail so we find out what happens there. Give
the Quarians a face and not some barely visible photo of Tali (which I loved). 



I can throw more and more points out there for you
to see; if you’re really reading these BioWare. Other fans can comment and post
too, and most of us feel the same way! Just, just explain and show us the
outcomes of our choices and not throw it all out the window at the last moment. I'm done proving
my point.   

[SirBob1613]

Endings where fine let them be the cruddy endings . but we need endings that show that are choice does matter not the color of the visuals at the end make are choices from all the games mean something dont slack off at the end on one of the best Gameing stories since like forever

[Johnathonm]

I give up.

Modifié par Johnathonm, 19 mars 2012 - 11:42 .

[Arbiter868]

The best part I think was making peace the geth and Quarians.

A bit off topic but the ending should of had a bigger with .fight/meeting with Harbinger

[ramenbito]

Hold the line.

[Chrisimo]

Paulomedi wrote...
Have you bothered to read the first post?

Yes, I did that. Have you read my post?

Why do you think Bioware asks us for positive feedback in a thread that addresses criticism of the product?

[Mustang678]

I really enjoyed the conversation with James where you're both sparring and talking. It made it a lot more active and engaging and was a cheap and effective way to get me to care about him. I got that foot in the door because I had to listen to him talk while watching for paragon/renegade prompts. Well done there.

I really dislike the Zaeed style dialogue because it's the opposite: I don't have any compulsion to stay there and listen to what they have to say, and I had to forcibly keep myself from running off after they said the first line.

Oh, and the endings were bad because they failed the sudden appereance of the child was just jarring and being presented with the 3 choices really cheapened everything I'd worked for. I was hoping to have made the fleet strong enough that I wouldn't have to do anything desperate to win, and fully expected the fleet to be destroyed anyway, but it still didn't matter because I would've gotten the same scene except better. Having Shepard appear in the rubble and take a sharp breath was just confusing and left me hanging. The fight isn't over. It couldn't be over until I was sure the Reapers were off of Earth and I found out what happened to my ship

[Arbiter868]

The best part I think was making peace the geth and Quarians.

A bit off topic but the ending should of had a bigger fight/meeting with Harbinger.

(Sorry about first post computer had a typing issue)

[Archonsg]

bkp360 wrote...

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

How freaking weak are you??  It would take like 5 seconds to indoctrinate you.  Ohhhh let's keep it positive... let's not say the ending sucked big time.  Let's all just hold hands and sing songs until we forget we were unhappy cause BioPuke wants us too.


Get some dignity man.

Bro think you owe him or her an apology he didn't say what you thought he said. What he said is don't post "happy feel good" comments as this was the intent to deflect concerns of players who thought the ending sucked, and that was intentionally asked by the OP in hopes to defuse the situation and control damage done.

Modifié par Archonsg, 19 mars 2012 - 10:54 .

[Simon_Shinji]

Just finished ME3. With ME1 and 2 imported saves. Just to say I'm not new to the series, but a fan since the very first.

Quite frankly, I know I'm in the minority, but I'm not pissed off at all by the endings. I'll go as far as saying I like them. Not perfect, certainly not in the variation area, but I find them fitting.

1°) Things made sense to me (yeah, I assure you).
2°) My choices mattered in the actual game, so I don't feel like every little choice should also alter the ending.
3°) For the lack of ending's variety, I totally understand why people are pissed on that specific point. I'm just sayin', when there are multiple endings, people are disappointed when they see it. Every time. I'm just one of those who are used to it and never expect anything more than what is actually delivered 
4°) I really, really liked the final choice. Because for the first time in 3 games I didn't know what to do and expect. I reviewed my options tons of times, and always found something "catchy". Destroy? No way, it's renegade, it'll kill the geth and EDI... Control? No way, the illusive man wanted to do that, it's flawed... Synthesis? Isn't that the same thing as becoming a reaper?
5°) I like when it's open-ended. I can assume what happens afterwards. It's also open to interpretation.

If there is another ending with no room for my own interpretation, or if it results into something specific I don't want for one of the characters... I wouldn't know what to think of this. I also just don't like the idea of throwing away the ending I had, "sorry, just forget that, here's the real one...".
What if the other ending(s) ends up being worse than these ones? Are you sure there is one way to end this that will make you feel satisfied? I don't want to be in Bioware's shoes really. If it were me, I'd want to satisfy everyone, but I just wouldn't know how to live up to everyone's expectations.

[Blackymir]

Posted this already in the forum but wanted this to be par t of the suggestion box

Ive been setting back and watching the posts, videos and comments and
have decided to join in the 10 minute debacle known as the ME3 ending. I
see alot of hate for it (Im in that crowd) and some like it. Im not
here to split hairs with the people that like it cause they have the
right to but I will have to say the reason why alot of us hate it is the
pure fact that there is a lack of choice.

If I had it my way
they should scrap the game from the time the beam hits until we get to
see Starbrat, either by considering a dream/indoctrination or removing
it entirely by ending dlc. However since im trying to see this from both
sides I would say the only other option would be to use the
control/synthesis as true endings but show that it was truely Harbinger
tricking Sheperd kind of like the way Luke was being seduced to the dark
side by the Emperor in ROTJ. However chosing the Destory option should
open up an entirely new scenario...pissing off Harbinger/Starbrat and
allowing you to wake up in the rubble where you were first hit by the
beam.

This gives alot of wiggle room for more story telling and
better ending fights..possibly expanding it to a dialogue conversation
with us and TIM to try to redeem him or to have a boss fight of sorts.
At the least a final fight with Harbinger that depending on your War
Resources will play out in another possible bad ending or good ending
that Shepard survives.

What would make the end battle with
Harbinger even better is after you beat him you would then get some
scenes of the battle in space and depending again on war assets would
the armies be able to defeat all the reapers or would some be able to
retreat to Dark Space if your War Assets are not high enough (yet
another different scenario), Doing so and getting the best ending we
would get closure with our teammates in the end or maybe even when the
game ends you can continue to play and go back to all the homeworlds
where your friends are from and see the outcomes that way as oppose to
just random text and a picture of them.

In the end it would
please everyone. If you liked the originals you could stay with them. If
you wanted the more grand finale style you would get those. If you want
Shepard to live you get that, if you want his death its there to. In
the end I believe this would appease both sides and end the foolish
bickering that both sides are doing to each other.

After all we
are all fans if we post on here and I want to respect someone elses
responses as much as my own but again to Mass Effect Fans/Bioware and
yes EA,  I say please take a look at what me and so many other people
are saying. Do the right thing by the fans and your paying customers
give us the choice we were promised so everyone can be happy.

Will be "Holding the Line" til then

[NightRaidca]

I realized why I found the outcome of the game so frustrating and irritating. Besides the obvious that everyone has been pointing out.
But strictly for my playthrough, with Tali as the LI, she gets the worst out of it, not only does she lose shepard in the end which there was such a strong emotional connection with, as not only did she take a dangerous step to be with him, but also chose to follow him after the geth/quarian war, leaving her home and people behind. She's also stranded on an unknown planet, who knows how far from her Rannoch andand the rest of the quarians, which has always been an important element to her people. She may have her friends there with her, but knowing she'll never see either again is always going to be there. I can see everyone else being able to cope or adjust to the situation, but I have difficulty picturing it with her. Which makes it so heart breaking.

[Apocaleepse360]

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

I'm sure that Bioware would love to hear about what they did right as well as what they did wrong. If we don't keep some positive points, then this thread basically becomes a "why Mass Effect 3 sucks" thread. And most of us aren't saying that Mass Effect 3 itself sucked, the ending was pretty bad but the game itself was amazing imo.

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 19 mars 2012 - 10:56 .

[hellstunas]

Totally not going through the previous pages on this one. =) I just wanted to put in my $.02. I liked the ending - it felt satisfying for me, and like it drew everything to a close. The combination of the visuals and the music was excellent. I think the synthesize choice was my favorite, although I didn't get the different ending for the destroy option (I didn't reload far enough back to have my ready rating counted). I should get it on the playthrough I'm working on now.

Yes, I've heard the criticisms, and some are reasonable while some are complete nonsense (Earth will starve? Why? They attacked cities for the people, they didn't raze the entire planet and suck up all the oceans.). I have well over 300 hours invested in the series, and it's not a question of my liking the ending because I just don't know enough about the game.

I'd ask that you guys not change the ending, but I would like to know more about the Catalyst and how it came to be - don't really care what form that's in, book/DLC/comic/whatever. I don't think more information about it would have fit in well with the ending as it stands, so that's just something that would be nice.