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[Chrisimo]

bkp360 wrote...

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

How freaking weak are you??  It would take like 5 seconds to indoctrinate you.  Ohhhh let's keep it positive... let's not say the ending sucked big time.  Let's all just hold hands and sing songs until we forget we were unhappy cause BioPuke wants us too.


Get some dignity man.

What are you talking about? I was actially saying: DON'T post anything POSITIVE in this thread. This thread is about the bad endings - positive aspects of the game have no place here.

[Damien Nightwind]

Paulomedi wrote...

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to
know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more
than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and
responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to
experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we
will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had
time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you
keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels
spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass
Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy
discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are
listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give
appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or
didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us
some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was
your favorite moment?







Have you bothered to read the first post?

They probably did, but they dont want bioware to think that they can get away with the bad endings because people liked the rest of the game.

[TheOriginalGoochman]

Fingers MAJORLY crossed that when *knocking on lotsa wood* they make the ending, that it is QUALITY, as in voice acted, and filled with cutscenes, choices, and the things about Mass Effect that we know and love.

Not just a text scroll saying "This is what went down......now be happy....bye"

And I KNOW they are going to make us pay for it (which to me is 100% fine) I would rather be out a few bucks and have the ending be as close to perfect as possible (Leaving me say now THAT is how you end Mass Effect, bravo Shepard/Bioware *golf clap*)
Leave me content with the ending (not saying highfives and hugs.....but a badass conclusion)
As I keep saying Quality > Crap and Quality=development/Voice Actors=$$$

[SpelMalmer]

Truly an amazing game. On so many levels. Simply WOW!

Then you land on earth.

[Chrisimo]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

I'm sure that Bioware would love to hear about what they did right as well as what they did wrong. If we don't keep some positive points, then this thread basically becomes a "why Mass Effect 3 sucks" thread. And most of us aren't saying that Mass Effect 3 itself sucked, the ending was pretty bad but the game itself was amazing imo.

This is a thread specifically about the bad endings. If they wanted to hear positive things they could make a thread for that!

Why don't they the create a thread for that? Because they want to create positive associations to the endings.

[Merwanor]

I never thought that the Mass Effect series would leave me so unsatisfied and hollow after the ending, the game was almost perfect and I was sure this would be GOTY this year, and also one of my favorite games ever made, until the last 5 minutes....

If the Indoctrination Theory is correct and that you are just going to announce a DLC or something that continues and fixes this then I will praise your devious nature Bioware. Because it will be the biggest and most amazing troll ever done to a fanbase.

But if this is the true ending you want us to experience for this series, then you have failed on so many levels it is not even fun. The scene makes no sense, my Shepard would never take this ultimatum, he would never let another AI or entity or whatever the kid is, controll him like that.
Also why on earth would the Normandy suddently flee the scene without Shepard, it is just out of character and it makes no sense since Liara was with me on Earth and suddently she is on the Normandy :S what is actually going on?

When I was close to the end I felt like replaying the game again as soon as I finished it, I loved it so much, it took some time for me to actually realize that this was the ending for the Mass Effect Trilogy.
And the ending was seriously devestating to me, and the more I think about it the more sad I become. I don't feel like playing this game anymore, and not the first 2 either. I have played through ME1 and ME2 lots of times each. But now I don't have any feeling for these games, even though Mass Effect 3 was an truly amazing journy, I will always know that there is an end comming that will just leave me feeling hollow and very unsatisfied. It is amazing how 5 minutes can almost ruin the whole game and the series.

I still can't believe this is how this series ends, it just can't be this hollow and empty.

[Damien Nightwind]

I doubt very many people have positive comments about the endings...

social.bioware.com/868606/polls/30052/

[Apocaleepse360]

Chrisimo wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Chrisimo wrote...

To the people who dislike the endings:

Please stop posting positive points about the game in this thread. There are other threads for that purpose.

The purpose of this thread is to create positive associations with the endings. Even if you express your dislike with the endings you will still create some positive associations by praising the rest of the game. This is how our subconscious mind works.

If Bioware wants to hear positive opinions about the game then they should create a thread titled "What did you like about ME3?" and not "On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening. "

If you LIKED the endings you can disregard this of course.

I'm sure that Bioware would love to hear about what they did right as well as what they did wrong. If we don't keep some positive points, then this thread basically becomes a "why Mass Effect 3 sucks" thread. And most of us aren't saying that Mass Effect 3 itself sucked, the ending was pretty bad but the game itself was amazing imo.

This is a thread specifically about the bad endings. If they wanted to hear positive things they could make a thread for that!

Why don't they the create a thread for that? Because they want to create positive associations to the endings.

Because a thread titled "post about how good our game is here" would be a bit big-headed of Bioware, wouldn't you think? I don't even see what the big deal is here, we're still getting our point across, aren't we?

[LtAdams2247 Origin]

AngryJoeShow. Does brilliant game reviews and sums it up in a vid of 20 minutes. This one is more dissapointed than angry though. A shame, he's funnier when he's angry ;-)

[Chrisimo]

Paulomedi wrote...
Ah, I see...sorry man, I misread your post. My mistake.

No problem. I am not a native speaker. So maybe I have worded it wrong. You were not the only one who misunderstood me.

[Matt_gekko88]

twitter.com/#!/FeyroDerlan/status/181879535682338817


and hell yeah, I'm holding the line

[Twinzam.V]

LtAdams2247 Origin wrote...

AngryJoeShow. Does brilliant game reviews and sums it up in a vid of 20 minutes. This one is more dissapointed than angry though. A shame, he's funnier when he's angry ;-)

This guy also makes some good points.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 19 mars 2012 - 11:13 .

[SirLugash]

In hope that this thread really gets attention from the devs I'd like to share something.

First of all I want to say that the end(ings) were unsatisfying to me.
I wouldn't call them bad or sh***y as I find it kind of interesting in a way, but I seriously expected something bigger for the end of such a trilogy as Mass Effect.

I am believer of the Indoctrination Theory which has, without a doubt, already been discussed here so I won't again start with that, I'll just add something (I'm sorry if this was already posted).

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Even though it might sound stupid, one thing that really disappointed me was Harbinger.
ME1 showed us that the Reapers are a threat to the whole galaxy.
From ME2 on through ME2: Arrival, it was made clear, that Harbinger was the real enemy to humanity because of his special interest in us and especially Shepard.
In ME3, he even got himself a primary codex entry, which also states that he was the leader on the earth attack.
This plus the fact that we were told, Harbinger and some Sovereign-class ships were breaking from earth orbit and with us soon.
So I expected one hell of a fight with Harbinger, but what do I got ?
I saw him for just about 15 secs, firing his laser all over the place before and finally hiting Shepard before he flies of.
That's it ?
There was no dialog, nothing with him.
Not even a one-liner, nothing. -.-
Apart from that, I never saw those Sovereign-class ships coming down with him...

Anyways, speaking of Sovereign-class ships, what happened to the other, unique-looking Reapers what we saw in the game outro of ME2 (Reaper fleet closing in to milky way) ?
Never saw one of those and never even heard of them.

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One more thing:
I guess the lack of variety in the endings was already mentioned.
I for myself expected to have the possibility of having several endings, that differed in a significantly way (as an epic trilogy ends, I think this is expectable), and not just some very similar endings which were dependant on some number (EMS).
I expected a bad ending, which resulsts in the Reapers completed this cycle of extinction (maybe with a little forecast of the next, yet not advanced, civilisation that might rule the galaxy in the future...)
Actually, you already showed us one very bad ending to work with: ME2: Arrival, when the timer runs out.
You gather your allies, meet up in the Citadel for a fight (whatever that fight might be), then Harbinger comes hovering in and then, maybe after some chat, he vaporizes you, your crew and everyone else on the station.
When I first saw this in Arrival, i was almost sure that something like this would be in ME3, but well...
And I would like to have an ending, may it be very hard to get, in which you, your LI and all the valued characters are surviving, along with Earth and the rest of the galaxy.
Some people wouldn't like to have such a hollywoodlike ending, but I want at least have the possibility to get it.

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I really hope there is something coming.
Indoctrination Theory is the only way to go, following it you have the chance to make it right, giving us what we desire (hopefully with my points addresses).

[doodiebody]

Frankly, even if BioWare releases a different ending it'll still feel empty to me knowing the fate that was originally planned for the galaxy. Unless they come out and say, "sorry, we were rushed and didn't like it ourselves." In which case, I'd be ok with it.

If they make a new ending just to appease us, but don't acknowledge all the reasons the originals were terrible, it's an empty victory in my mind.

[DarckHalf]

I´ve played Mass Effect 1 and 2 countless times, but I can't replay Mass Effect 3 again. Because of the last 10 minutes or so. Don't get me wrong I've loved the game but the ending was a little weak for a ME game.
The multiplayer make up for the ending!
ME 3 is a game to put in the shelf, collecting dust and never to touch <_<


If bioware change the ending I'll be happy for it, if not I'll keep playing as always!

Modifié par DarckHalf, 20 mars 2012 - 12:30 .

[Gundammike]

OK First off to sum up a lot of what i want to say really fast is, TheAngeryJoeShow did very well.  It deserves the 8 out of 10.  I watched my step son beat the game last week with me still trying to finish mass effect 2 in the process.  I just installed the game lastnight on my PC and the game play is amazing.  I personally am glad the mini games are gone and i dont have to spend time scouring planets for recources.  When i play an RPG i like to level up, fast hard, and take out the bad guys. 

However, as i was watching my son go though the final battle and see the Ending i was so bummed.  My jaw dropped and all i could say to my son was... " That was the WORST ending to game i have ever seen."  I mean what the heck?  After all the build up i was Expecting One thing....  A Bad As* 20 to 30 minute cutscene of the reapers going down, (if you had enough forces)  in a blaze of Action, explosions, and Space battle Gallore.  I mean it should have been epic.  THe ending to Mass Effect 3 should have mad the ending to Star Ocean look silly.  I wanted to see what happens to the crew,  The Earth and other planets getting rebuilt.  The Galaxy surviving.  Or if you didnt have enough Forces,  Watching everything go down in a huge Blaze of Glory.  Instead......  (sigh)

Where to begin,  i thought the GOD like machine child was.... stupid.  I mean really, the child God machine is the source of everything?  And the choices.  I mean really?  THey all lead to the same ending,  maybe not EXCATILY the same, but the Mass Effect relays get destroyed so everybody is stuck where they are.  There really is no happy ending with you and your love interest.  You get NO characture Endings.  I didnt even want to load the game onto my PC after watching my son beat the game on the PS3.  And i really dont want to go back and replay the others now that i know the ending was like that.  And yes we do deserve a long ass cut scene with explosions and space battles and characture endings.  And no i shouldnt have to pay for enging fixes as DLC.  if that does happen this game will be the LAST bioware game i ever buy. 

Other then that so far the game is great.  I enjoy the customization and upgrades of weapons being back.  I like the Bigger skill trees.  and the game Feels more smoother then the first 2.  

And yes i agree with an ubove post, Endings and story do matter.  I play my games to see endings, espically RPG's. 

[Boulayman2]

Well, I didn't mind so much the lack of boss fight with the Illusive man. I actually thought that part was handled pretty well, apart from the fact that I couldn't choose the charm options despite being maxed out on paragorn but whatever that's a detail, more annoying was the bug with that japanese thief subquest that prevented me from finishing the game at 100 % but she was my least liked character anyway so whatever. It really is about the very ending of the game, that weak written dialog with the child, lack of harbringer... What a shame to end on a whimper like this. THe ending of both mass effect 1 and 2 are vastly superior to this mess that for the sake of offering the player some sort of foceful dramatic choice has weakened an awful lot the whole trilogy. And because of that, mass effect 3 will not be my favourite game of the trilogy by quite a margin. Tuchanka with my favourite salarian were great though. But the whole priority earth arc was surprisingly quite a letdown after all that buildup. I think I am just gonna rewatch the launch trailer again and again, there was more emotion and art there than in the actual game

[Chrisimo]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...
Because a thread titled "post about how good our game is here" would be a bit big-headed of Bioware, wouldn't you think? I don't even see what the big deal is here, we're still getting our point across, aren't we?

The thread title could just as well have been "What did you like about ME3?"

And no, we are not getting our point across. That is my point. I apologize for being unclear. As I said, I am not a native speaker.
I will try to rephrase my point:

If you post positive things in connection to something that you don't like you still create a positve association to that bad thing and make it less bad. It is psychology. And PR knows how to use that to their advantage.

I'm sure you have been in situations where you felt bad about something and then someone said:"But look at the positive sides". Why should you do that? Because it let's you forget about what is bad.

Modifié par Chrisimo, 19 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[Twinzam.V]

doodiebody wrote...

Frankly, even if BioWare releases a different ending it'll still feel empty to me knowing the fate that was originally planned for the galaxy. Unless they come out and say, "sorry, we were rushed and didn't like it ourselves." In which case, I'd be ok with it.

If they make a new ending just to appease us, but don't acknowledge all the reasons the originals were terrible, it's an empty victory in my mind.

I also feel that way, but i think the Reaper (aka. EA) wanted to release the game in 2011 and Bioware asked to delay a few more months to make it good.
Dont know if its true, just something i heard when i was discussing the ending.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 19 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[JThom]

My problem with the endings, is that it makes it feel that nothing you've done in the previous games or this one really matters.  It feels like everything you went through and did was for nothing.  Also the lack of character resolution was a bit of a let down.

[szale9001]

I'm not sure if something similar has been posted but I got bored and made this lol
 

[Ksingh]

if Bio ware is not addressing the ending i am not playing this game anymore as i feel it misses the critical DNA that the previous two title had .....Bio ware if you want me to pick up Mass effect 4 in future fix this one on priorty bases .......

[Kristofer1]

I feel the endings were extremely confusing.
How is it that the Citadel which has been occupied for over a thousand years in this "cycle" have an area that open, that has not ever been visited?

This child, where did he come from? Why does he have human form? Why did he attempt to explain the purpose of the reaper cycles? Wasn't it beyond our comprehension? Did Sovereign not say that? Harbinger?

Why did Joker, who brought the Normandy to rejoin "Sword" I believe go into the Sol Mass Relay? Joker was supposed to be fighting in space, in the Sol system against the reapers. This mysterious planet he landed on, why does he look so happy? He lost he Normandy. He lost Earth, he doesnt know what happened back on Earth. He has two other people with him. How does that make him happy?

Buzz Aldrin's character, there may be planets around the stars? There may be other species out there? MAY??? If he is talking about the Legend, who destroyed the reapers, how would he not be mentioning the turians, asari, and other races? That makes zero sense.

With the size of my military fleet, how is it not possible to keep fighting the reapers and beat them on earth and destroy them? We know that them landing on the planet makes them weak. We know what weapons do damage to them: THANIX. How is it not possible to sit on the citadel and not make a choice?

Also, this child who is the master of the reapers, why can I not inform him about the geth and quarian alliance I helped forge? Proof that synthetics and organics can come to terms and live amicably.

Shouldn't this kid, who controls the reapers, be able to shut them down or order them to cease the attacks as well?


Why make it so the Mass Relays are all obliterated?
The Game is Mass Effect. In the first game we are told that with the discovery of the relays we learn of Mass Effect drives or something along those lines. That being said, destroying the relays effectively makes the future of the series questionable.
Does Bioware think I will want to play Mass Effect whatever without being able to go visit other systems?