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[JDLowe]

There are a few fan made endings on Youtube

[Dretlin]

Scam_poo wrote...

Wow, I think my favourite moments were everytime when I was fighting with a huge-ass reaper in the background. (Those being Earth, Palaven, Tuchanka, Rannoch, Thessia, Earth). My most favourite has to be the final cutscene on Tuchanka (Thresher Maw vs Reaper and Mordin's death).

Thanks for this amazing game! Ending was fine too (woooho, now haters slap me in the face!)

I am yet to see any "haters". I am one of those who disagrees with the ending, and I adore the Mass Effect games, the third included. I take issue with the ending as it is shallow and completely conflicts with the nature of the entire series.

Also, I doubt any "hater" would have raised as much for charity as this has.

I, respectfully, disagree sir.

[Saeros]

About ending movies: the planet where the Normandy landing, could be Nevos?
Location: Milky Way / Silean Nebula / Teyolia System / Second planet

Description:
First discovered by asari pioneers in 430 CE, Nevos is a vibrant garden planet and home to a thriving asari colony. Sandy beaches and romantic twin moons fuel a bustling tourism economy, while practical secretive corporate matters are handled in spiraling arcologies built along towering cliffs. Even though it has been colonized for centuries, Nevos feels a frontier away from regulation and oversight. Consequently, a number of influential political lobbies have established sizable presences on the planet.

[Kyuso]

I am one of those who disliked the endings. Incoming wall of text warning, but I figure this is the place to put it.

Short version:

I hated them and I feel that the last 5 minutes of the game ran counter to just about everything I'd ever done in the series. I would like them replaced with something that makes sense. I think Star Child is wtfery and that the whole Grandad-telling-story-to-grandkid thing is a massive cop-out. Who would tell a kid a story that full of violence, profanity, and (amazingly laughable) sex (sorry BioWare, but you have a generally hokey sense of romance )? I felt the ending(s) cheapened the entire series.

Longer version:

I think the reason there's been such a backlash to the end is that people (a lot of us) have an amazingly close connection to what's gone on in the ME world. The entire series up until the last 5 minutes is about your actions and the consequences of those actions, often actions that play out across the entire series.

For example: Kaidan. From trusted squadmate in ME1 to someone who, in ME2 felt that I had outright betrayed him and everything I once stood for, to the awkward initial interactions in ME3 that lead to the re-establishment of a relationship where, because of my choices in London lead to his death (I'll get to that plot hole in a minute) because of my decision to take him with me on the last assaut.

ME3 had some amazing, visceral moments that had been a long time in the making. Curing the Genophage and Mordin's sacrifice (Mordin = my favorite!) and the discovery in London that Wrex will be a daddy. Thane's death and Kolyat's revelation that Thane's dying prayer was for Shepard. Legion's selfless decision to free the Geth and the fact that the Quarians finally got to go home. I could go on and on about what made ME3 amazing. I won't lie about the fact that I cried more than once.

The ending took all of this amazing journey and absolutely ruined the entire thing. From a gamer's standpoint I did everything right. I went in to my last moments at 100% galactic readiness ( me some Quarian Engineer multiplayer) and over 7000 resources. I had scanned every scannable part of the galaxy to 100%. I had stayed true to my Paragon ideals. I had leveled up my weapons and had credits out the wazoo. I was a galactic badass. But none of that mattered. It had zero relevance on what was to come. All the decisions I had agonized over, all the challenges I had faced, all the relationships I had forged... they didn't matter. In the end the only choice I really got to make was the color of the explosion from the Mass Relays.

The endings were absolute copouts. I'm really supposed to believe that Joker left Sol? The one guy who had followed me through hell and I'm supposed to believe that he somehow decides to up and leave in the middle of the fight without any knowledge of what was taking place on the Citadel?

Why, after crash landing on generic jungle planet, do (in my story) Joker, Kaidan, and Garrus (or EDI depending on ending) get off the Normandy? I took Kaidan and Garrus with me on the final assault. You know, the one where everyone died if you believe the voice over and the one where Shepard barely limped out of? Am I supposed to believe that somehow Joker gets down to Earth, close to the beam, picks up my two squadmates (who look amazingly fresh and uninjured) and that all 3 of them were somehow are okay with just abandoning Shepard? I can't, in any way, believe that.

Am I supposed to believe that Shepard, she of uncompromising resolve and the defier of galactic odds in all situations suicidal, just rolls over and takes the options offered by some ethereal deus ex machina entity of unknown motive?

What about the implications of all those fleets stranded in Sol? The Turians and the Quarians would die slowly and painfully because of the inability to get the food they needed. How is a universe in which people depend on farming PLANETS going to come up with enough food to keep all those people now stranded just outside of Earth alive?

I think you guys blew it. If you had rationale behind this, you should have given it in the game. Deus ex machina is a terribly contrived way to end a franchise. I think that you took years of good will and devotion from your core audience and essentially said "screw you". I seriously regret finishing ME3 and I haven't picked the game up again (not even for multiplayer, which I loved) since I finished the game. I probably won't ever pick it up again unless something is done to make the destination worthy of the journey that lead up to it. As a consumer, the way in which ME3 was handled has really made me reconsider if I would pick up a game developed by BioWare ever again.

Also, I created this account just to weigh in on this matter, because I know there are many, many of us who are disappointed by this ending who will not.

[MaddestHatter]

I can't belive that, how can a perfect ending like it is right now (not talking about to ongoing/ upcoming stories, like what happened to my crew, etc), be taken apart this much. It is logical, it ends the cycle, the last dicision is very important about how you want the galaxy to go on....

[xFyre1]

KillScreen_ wrote...

xFyre1 wrote...

KillScreen_ wrote...

I enjoyed the story as a whole and the ending was really epic. Glad that they didn't picked the usual "happy ever after" kind of bull**** endings like disney movies and got the nerves of presenting something out of the box. I'm glad that they took that risk, its a pity that closed minded people are reacting the way they are.

And i really hope they don't restrain their liberty and creativity on the next mass effect saga.

You sure love 'em plotholes. It's not just about a happy ending, it's about an ending that makes sense.

I don't like them, but comparing to other games like twisted metal and other games out there... yeh. I like this one the most.

If you like the endings, well, the only thing I can say is good for you. I respect your opinion just like anyone elses'. But that doesn't change the fact that 90% of the fans are unhappy with what happened.

And why not the possibility of a happy ending? All outcomes should be possible, that's what was promised to us.

[Leem_0001]

MaddestHatter wrote...

I can't belive that, how can a perfect ending like it is right now (not talking about to ongoing/ upcoming stories, like what happened to my crew, etc), be taken apart this much. It is logical, it ends the cycle, the last dicision is very important about how you want the galaxy to go on....

If you like the ending then good for you, I have no problem with that. But surely you have to admit that if 90% of the fans have a major issue with it's logic, and the fact that it's going against what we were promised, then we have a right to voice our opinions?

Would you not prefer that we had alternate endings where our prior decisions played a part in the outcome?

[Fynir]

The way everything is put on... So many things unanswered. So little variation with the HUGE number of possibilities... If what they say in thefinalhours is true, that BioWare did this on purpose, ruining the best saga they ever had, no free DLC to clarify things and doing a proper ending...BioWare just started losing clients at an incredible speed, starting with me...

[amaltheaelanor]

Just finished it last night, and I have to say, I loved this game. Yes, I know I'm in the overwhelming minority, but I actually really, really liked the ending. And I'd appreciate it if fans who didn't would stop making derogatory implications about people who liked it, or insinuating that their perspective is universal. I feel it's rather unfair.

As for favorite moments? Too many to choose. Among them being:
-shooting bottles with Garrus
-Garrus and Joker exchanging jokes
-Garrus and Tali making out (hmm, many that involved Garrus)
-Mordin sacrificing himself to cure the genophage
-thresher maw vs. reaper
-Thane's death, and killing Kai Leng for Thane
-Cerberus attacking the Citadel
-pretty much every major plot location, from Mars, to Palovan, to Thuchanka, to Rannoch, to Thessia.
-the fact that the entirety of game reached levels of Epic that ME2 (for all its strengths) never accomplished

[Rainond]

i just hope they dont make a mmrpg like they did in starwars... mass effect is more like a cinematic game, not an infinite story of battle all the freaking days

[ElMuchu]

Riddledim wrote...

I see some people would prefer the Indoctrination theory to the endings.
I think I would prefer the endings to the Indoctrination theory, but rather neither than any.

I want the refusal ending. With enough military strength we should be allowed and able to crush the Reapers head-on without too heavy losses.

We want the possibility of a happy ending in addition to the sad endings.

I agree for only one reason: it is the first time all the species are united. The Prothean says that. Damn my Shep wants to kick their ass out of Earth and the Galaxy!

[Twinzam.V]

Leem_0001 wrote...

MaddestHatter wrote...

I can't belive that, how can a perfect ending like it is right now (not talking about to ongoing/ upcoming stories, like what happened to my crew, etc), be taken apart this much. It is logical, it ends the cycle, the last dicision is very important about how you want the galaxy to go on....

If you like the ending then good for you, I have no problem with that. But surely you have to admit that if 90% of the fans have a major issue with it's logic, and the fact that it's going against what we were promised, then we have a right to voice our opinions?

Would you not prefer that we had alternate endings where our prior decisions played a part in the outcome?

The problem was never the ending, but its logic. Its like saying 1+1= 10000000.

[Tamuril24]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment?

Lol nothing like diverting attention away from the problem with an off topic question <_<

[xFyre1]

This

https://docs.google....?pli=1&sle=true

Just this.

[tkdrobert]

ElMuchu wrote...

Dear Bioware, hereafter the email I sent you yesterday:
Dear Mrs, Mr,

I am sending this email to share with you my point of view regarding your last product: Mass Effect 3. First of all, I am French and I am a pretty new customer of Bioware. I come to you buying Dragon Age Origins, then, the quality of this game leads me to buy Mass Effect. Here again, the quality of the story, the choices provided to the player and the gameplay were so awesome that I pre-order Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3. I even also buy Baldur’s Gate oldies series… After the deception of Dragon Age 2 (not a bad game but not as good as other previous ones – mainly due to the weaker opposition made to a less charismatic hero I think and to the reuse of areas), and thanks to Mass Effect 2, I still keep faith in your company and maintain my pre-order for Mass Effect 3. Now that I just finish it, I would like to provide you with some kind of feedbacks.

I like this game, really… until the last 15 minutes… It is even greater than Mass Effect 1 and 2 that are my two favorites games since I play video game (I started 15 years ago) Scenario is well built, there are many interactions with other characters. I also very appreciate the fact that secondary quests are very well done and consistent with the main plot (on the contrary of Dragon Age 2 for instance, there is always an interest in searching an item somewhere: in one case it is useful to save a wounded general, in another case, it helps to build a machine gun or items that are necessary for war effort).

I really appreciate the fact of seeing previous characters coming from Mass effect 1 and 2.

There are tons of awesome moments like Mordin’s and Legion sacrifice, Fight between Thane and Kei Leng… There are also funny times like Grunt coming from nowhere covered of blood after a huge fight against Rachni saying he is hungry, discussions with Garrus and the crew inside the Normandy, romance scene with Garrus (bottle shot on presidium roof). There are also great emotional times when we fight Reapers on Tuchanka and Ranoch or when we can end the war between Geth and Quarians.

I could spend hours telling you what I like in this game, anyway there is one point that I dislike and that makes me sad in a crazy way: the endings. Why have you done this to our Shepard? We have built a character that we have followed since the first game, we have spent so many time with him/her, made so many efforts to beat the Reapers… I am not satisfied by these endings. After the trailers you have made, I want to kick the Reapers out of the Galaxy and to have a happy Shepard seen as a hero by the Galaxy people. I also want the possibility to have him/her makes the highest sacrifice and to be acclaimed like a hero too.

Current endings are far too close. From my point of view, ending system of Mass Effect 2 was far away better. You could have made for instance:

- - A happy end, with all Reapers dead, a victoriousliving Shepard acclaimed by the whole Galaxy followed by a wedding. We could see he/her sharing a drink with remaining Normandy’crew, thinking about all the friends they lost. “Biologic life and synthetic life can live together, let see Geth and Quarians and give us a chance”: that could have been a possible answer of Shepard at the end.

- - One or two middle endings based on currently existing ones: fusion with Reapers is an interesting idea.

- - A sad End with all Reapers dead but a preserved Galaxy thanks, for instance, to the crash of the complete Normandy on Hartbinger

If we wand sadness, we can just watch the news on TV, please, give us a possibility for enjoyment and hope.

Once again, except the end, you have done an amazing game with Mass Effect 3. Bioware also has done a damned fantastic job with the whole Mass Effect series. Please, hear your fans and customers and provides to this series the ends that it deserves (RetakeMassEffect3).

Best regards

One of your numerous fan

I don't hate the ending like most here (don't love it either), but your post actually moved me more than anyone else's comments.

[HalfTangible]

partycarrot wrote...

I wanted to say that not everyone hates the endings. I for one loved mine (synthesis ofc.)

I didn't feel the ending was rushed or "wrong" or stupid. **** happens, not every story needs a happy ending. What really mattered was ending the 50k cycle, destroying the mass relays and the citadel, which freed all life from developing in certain pre-ordained ways, and most of all, not having an end that just led back to status quo. The world changed thanks to Shepard.

Thank you, Bioware.

Nobody in their right mind is complaining about the ending being sad - that's fine, and frankly largely expected (some are complaining that they were ALL sad, but that's a lesser issue)

The issue is that in the end, nothing Shepard did really mattered. So what if I united the geth and the quarians? So what if the Krogan were cured of the genophage? So what if Miranda survived? In the end, none of that mattered for anything but your galactic readiness. I don't want to see Shepard live through the story (well, ok, I do, but i can live without it) what I want is to see a Geth prime pull a quarian out of a line of fire. I wanna see Wrex save Grunt from a cannibal and blow it's head off. I want to see a Turian line of fire mow down more husks than i can count.

And when it's over? I want to see what my crew does.

I want to see Tali go on Rannoch preparing to build her house. I want to see Garrus be named a spectre by the Primarch. I want to see Javik speaking to Liara about their book as she takes notes.

Alternatively, I want to see Tali bleeding to death as a Geth Prime bows it's head in reverence. I want to see Garrus tackle a maurader over a cliff. I want to see Liara dieing on the ground as she fires her pistol on approaching reaper forces. I want to see Javik toss his empty gun aside and charge the Reapers.

I'm not asking for a happy ending, I'm asking for an ending that... well, ENDS. Bioware can DO that. They've done it dozens of times throughout the story of even the same game. Kolyat's prayer as his father finally dies, Mordin singing as the shroud blows up around him, Grunt charging into a group of Rachni and falling off a cliff, heck, even Kai Leng got himself a badass coup-de-grace from commander shepard ("That was for Thane and Miranda you bastard!!")

I think i'd be okay if they just added cutscenes showing stuff like that to the ending before the Crucible fires, and cut out the Normandy's running scene.

Modifié par HalfTangible, 20 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Baerdface]

The problem is, the ending doesn't explain what happens to other characters and the rest of the galaxy in general. And how what you did up to the ending of Mass Effect 3 affects the outcome. I do not give a flying f*** what happens to Shepard, cause he/she is the most boring, dull and uninteresting character in the game, Shepard is just an avatar to walk around and interact with the actually interesting characters and environment. In a game where everything revolved around character interactions, their progression, the ending shouldn't just leave everyone hanging. This is not Deus Ex, this is not Lost, such ending wasn't something that everything happened until now was leading up to, this is just lazy and out of place.

Modifié par Baerdface, 20 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Darth Kreia]

tkdrobert wrote...

ElMuchu wrote...

Dear Bioware, hereafter the email I sent you yesterday:
Dear Mrs, Mr,

I am sending this email to share with you my point of view regarding your last product: Mass Effect 3. First of all, I am French and I am a pretty new customer of Bioware. I come to you buying Dragon Age Origins, then, the quality of this game leads me to buy Mass Effect. Here again, the quality of the story, the choices provided to the player and the gameplay were so awesome that I pre-order Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3. I even also buy Baldur’s Gate oldies series… After the deception of Dragon Age 2 (not a bad game but not as good as other previous ones – mainly due to the weaker opposition made to a less charismatic hero I think and to the reuse of areas), and thanks to Mass Effect 2, I still keep faith in your company and maintain my pre-order for Mass Effect 3. Now that I just finish it, I would like to provide you with some kind of feedbacks.

I like this game, really… until the last 15 minutes… It is even greater than Mass Effect 1 and 2 that are my two favorites games since I play video game (I started 15 years ago) Scenario is well built, there are many interactions with other characters. I also very appreciate the fact that secondary quests are very well done and consistent with the main plot (on the contrary of Dragon Age 2 for instance, there is always an interest in searching an item somewhere: in one case it is useful to save a wounded general, in another case, it helps to build a machine gun or items that are necessary for war effort).

I really appreciate the fact of seeing previous characters coming from Mass effect 1 and 2.

There are tons of awesome moments like Mordin’s and Legion sacrifice, Fight between Thane and Kei Leng… There are also funny times like Grunt coming from nowhere covered of blood after a huge fight against Rachni saying he is hungry, discussions with Garrus and the crew inside the Normandy, romance scene with Garrus (bottle shot on presidium roof). There are also great emotional times when we fight Reapers on Tuchanka and Ranoch or when we can end the war between Geth and Quarians.

I could spend hours telling you what I like in this game, anyway there is one point that I dislike and that makes me sad in a crazy way: the endings. Why have you done this to our Shepard? We have built a character that we have followed since the first game, we have spent so many time with him/her, made so many efforts to beat the Reapers… I am not satisfied by these endings. After the trailers you have made, I want to kick the Reapers out of the Galaxy and to have a happy Shepard seen as a hero by the Galaxy people. I also want the possibility to have him/her makes the highest sacrifice and to be acclaimed like a hero too.

Current endings are far too close. From my point of view, ending system of Mass Effect 2 was far away better. You could have made for instance:

- - A happy end, with all Reapers dead, a victoriousliving Shepard acclaimed by the whole Galaxy followed by a wedding. We could see he/her sharing a drink with remaining Normandy’crew, thinking about all the friends they lost. “Biologic life and synthetic life can live together, let see Geth and Quarians and give us a chance”: that could have been a possible answer of Shepard at the end.

- - One or two middle endings based on currently existing ones: fusion with Reapers is an interesting idea.

- - A sad End with all Reapers dead but a preserved Galaxy thanks, for instance, to the crash of the complete Normandy on Hartbinger

If we wand sadness, we can just watch the news on TV, please, give us a possibility for enjoyment and hope.

Once again, except the end, you have done an amazing game with Mass Effect 3. Bioware also has done a damned fantastic job with the whole Mass Effect series. Please, hear your fans and customers and provides to this series the ends that it deserves (RetakeMassEffect3).

Best regards

One of your numerous fan

I don't hate the ending like most here (don't love it either), but your post actually moved me more than anyone else's comments.

The ending does make sense but it is not why people bought the game. The expected something else.

[Le0n1]

Just saw the updated video on the indoctrination theory on YT (here's the link once more ).

It's sad that I'm sitting here, hoping against all hope, that a theory, put together and enhanced by fans, is the path Bioware intended to follow since the start. Even if it wasn't, the merit of it for providing a loophole for an abysmal ending is invaluable.

P.S- I had forgotten how fabulous the voice actor for Saren was.

Modifié par Le0n1, 20 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[Rainond]

btw my review is,

what i love:

main story its gorgeous, the game really take you in, i felt great with the choices i make, and in others i actually could feel the lost of friends, scenarios are amazing, and the finale, the boy and the grandpa, is amazing, human culture all over the galaxy wander how could it be to live in the stars

what i hate is there was no more action in the earth campaing, i know the reazons but would be awesome

[Phantom1118]

Chris Priestly... I mean no disrespect but why sugar cote it?... I am certainly not gona sugar cote my idea.  Ive been following this series even before the first ME came out. So here is my idea, ever read any books with a hapily ever after ending? For some odd reason i always imagined fighting through the games with Liara at my side, and in the end of ME3 I would destroy the reapers and live hapily ever after.

You guys did say the player has the choice in his ending? Why cant I have mine? Synthetics bonding with organic life? i realise this is all science fiction, but really? Thats the best you could come up with. This definately is the direct oposite of what i hoped the games ending would be.

I payed 79.99 for the collectors edition because ME2 was totally epic.... Reason being, the ending was even more that what i even imagined. Perfect ending, Why should ME3 be different? Why not please the fan base? Even if the game is a little unrealistic. Why not have comander Sheaperd destroy the reapers and move on with his life? Its a game, it should have a happy ending.

Put it this way, after i played this game, i fealt like i just got done watching the movie I AM LEGEND. Everything close to him dies and in the end he dies. That was an hour and a half of my life i will never get back. The problem is, this game took me nearly a week to complete, thats a week of my life i wont ever get back unless you make me DLC with an ending that shepered can live hapilly ever after with Liara or whoever his special someone is.

Their you go, no sugar cote, and i am sure a million different people agree with me on this one.

[jeweledleah]

HalfTangible wrote...

partycarrot wrote...

I wanted to say that not everyone hates the endings. I for one loved mine (synthesis ofc.)

I didn't feel the ending was rushed or "wrong" or stupid. **** happens, not every story needs a happy ending. What really mattered was ending the 50k cycle, destroying the mass relays and the citadel, which freed all life from developing in certain pre-ordained ways, and most of all, not having an end that just led back to status quo. The world changed thanks to Shepard.

Thank you, Bioware.

Nobody in their right mind is complaining about the ending being sad - that's fine.

The issue is that in the end, nothing Shepard did really mattered. So what if I united the geth and the quarians? So what if the Krogan were cured of the genophage? So what if Miranda survived? In the end, none of that mattered for anything but your galactic readiness. I don't want to see Shepard live through the story (well, ok, I do, but i can live without it) what I want is to see a Geth prime pull a quarian out of a line of fire. I wanna see Wrex save Grunt from a cannibal and blow it's head off. I want to see a Turian line of fire mow down more husks than i can count.

And when it's over? I want to see what my crew does.

I want to see Tali go on Rannoch preparing to build her house. I want to see Garrus be named a spectre by the Primarch. I want to see Javik speaking to Liara about their book as she takes notes.

Alternatively, I want to see Tali bleeding to death as a Geth Prime bows it's head in reverence. I want to see Garrus tackle a maurader over a cliff. I want to see Liara dieing on the ground as she fires her pistol on approaching reaper forces. I want to see Javik toss his empty gun aside and charge the Reapers.

I'm not asking for a happy ending, I'm asking for an ending that... well, ENDS. Bioware can DO that. They've done it dozens of times throughout the story of even the same game. Kolyat's prayer as his father finally dies, Mordin singing as the shroud blows up around him, Grunt charging into a group of Rachni and falling off a cliff, heck, even Kai Leng got himself a badass coup-de-grace from commander shepard ("That was for Thane and Miranda you bastard!!")

I think i'd be okay if they just added cutscenes showing stuff like that to the ending before the Crucible fires, and cut out the Normandy's running scene.

well I must be out of my mind then, becasue I AM complainging about sad being the only setting you can chose.  yes, endings should make sence.  but we should also be given an option to get an ending that doesn't feel so depressing, so unnecessarily tragic that it makes you want to give your disks the same fate as what printer got in "office space"

there are plenty of happy endings in real life.  it is REALISTIC to triumph against impossible odds, survive and thrive anyways.  the examples are in real life all the damn time.  remember that senator that got shot point blank in a head?  she's alive, back to her family, she's not unscathed, but she's back to normal. what about people who lise their legs and then become marathon runners?  and not just any old marathon runners - first prize contenders?  what about soldiers who survive the war, who survive horrific battles and come back to their families?  what about families that get reunited after terrible earthquakes or tsunamis, against all odds.  sometimes they even manage to find their pets and their freaking family albums!

happy endings happen in real life all the time.  if we are going to talk realism, than its UNREALISTIC that Shepard who managed to win over everything that was thrown at him/her so far, always has to die and that no action they can take changes the outcome.

[VV00d13]

Effective strength need to overcome at least 4000 preferly 5000 and you get this but playing multiplayer online. Your system is at 50% strength (therefore 6600 becomes 3300) by playing online you add more % to effective strength

Modifié par VV00d13, 20 mars 2012 - 03:22 .

[Twinzam.V]

Darth Kreia wrote...

tkdrobert wrote...

ElMuchu wrote...

Dear Bioware, hereafter the email I sent you yesterday:
Dear Mrs, Mr,

I am sending this email to share with you my point of view regarding your last product: Mass Effect 3. First of all, I am French and I am a pretty new customer of Bioware. I come to you buying Dragon Age Origins, then, the quality of this game leads me to buy Mass Effect. Here again, the quality of the story, the choices provided to the player and the gameplay were so awesome that I pre-order Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3. I even also buy Baldur’s Gate oldies series… After the deception of Dragon Age 2 (not a bad game but not as good as other previous ones – mainly due to the weaker opposition made to a less charismatic hero I think and to the reuse of areas), and thanks to Mass Effect 2, I still keep faith in your company and maintain my pre-order for Mass Effect 3. Now that I just finish it, I would like to provide you with some kind of feedbacks.

I like this game, really… until the last 15 minutes… It is even greater than Mass Effect 1 and 2 that are my two favorites games since I play video game (I started 15 years ago) Scenario is well built, there are many interactions with other characters. I also very appreciate the fact that secondary quests are very well done and consistent with the main plot (on the contrary of Dragon Age 2 for instance, there is always an interest in searching an item somewhere: in one case it is useful to save a wounded general, in another case, it helps to build a machine gun or items that are necessary for war effort).

I really appreciate the fact of seeing previous characters coming from Mass effect 1 and 2.

There are tons of awesome moments like Mordin’s and Legion sacrifice, Fight between Thane and Kei Leng… There are also funny times like Grunt coming from nowhere covered of blood after a huge fight against Rachni saying he is hungry, discussions with Garrus and the crew inside the Normandy, romance scene with Garrus (bottle shot on presidium roof). There are also great emotional times when we fight Reapers on Tuchanka and Ranoch or when we can end the war between Geth and Quarians.

I could spend hours telling you what I like in this game, anyway there is one point that I dislike and that makes me sad in a crazy way: the endings. Why have you done this to our Shepard? We have built a character that we have followed since the first game, we have spent so many time with him/her, made so many efforts to beat the Reapers… I am not satisfied by these endings. After the trailers you have made, I want to kick the Reapers out of the Galaxy and to have a happy Shepard seen as a hero by the Galaxy people. I also want the possibility to have him/her makes the highest sacrifice and to be acclaimed like a hero too.

Current endings are far too close. From my point of view, ending system of Mass Effect 2 was far away better. You could have made for instance:

- - A happy end, with all Reapers dead, a victoriousliving Shepard acclaimed by the whole Galaxy followed by a wedding. We could see he/her sharing a drink with remaining Normandy’crew, thinking about all the friends they lost. “Biologic life and synthetic life can live together, let see Geth and Quarians and give us a chance”: that could have been a possible answer of Shepard at the end.

- - One or two middle endings based on currently existing ones: fusion with Reapers is an interesting idea.

- - A sad End with all Reapers dead but a preserved Galaxy thanks, for instance, to the crash of the complete Normandy on Hartbinger

If we wand sadness, we can just watch the news on TV, please, give us a possibility for enjoyment and hope.

Once again, except the end, you have done an amazing game with Mass Effect 3. Bioware also has done a damned fantastic job with the whole Mass Effect series. Please, hear your fans and customers and provides to this series the ends that it deserves (RetakeMassEffect3).

Best regards

One of your numerous fan

I don't hate the ending like most here (don't love it either), but your post actually moved me more than anyone else's comments.

The ending does make sense but it is not why people bought the game. The expected something else.

Lots of sense. Someone just possibly gave you the button to the doomsday device and you accept everything he says.

[Cheep Cheep Cheep]

This isn't about the lack of a happy ending. People who think that is why there is so much outrage, know this.

I, for one, was fine with Shep dying. In fact I expected it. But everything that came after the convo with Illusive Man was just awful, stripped players of all choice, was full of plot holes, and gives the impression that to save the galaxy, you have to doom it, so you're not really saving it at all. Then, there's not even a Dragon Age: Origins style epilogue or a cut scene to give closure. More questions are left than answers.

That being said, I don't see why some kind of happy ending couldn't be possible. If we were supposed to get 16 endings (and lol, we didn't), I don't see why -one- of those couldn't be a happy ending. And I'm sure ME's writing staff could have figured out a way to deliver a happy ending without making it saccharine sweet or stereoytpically Hollywood.

Bioware, please, take a note from Bethesda. Bethesda acknowledged the problems with the Fallout 3 ending, swallowed their collective pride, and released Broken Steel - one of the best DLCs for Fallout 3 which I gladly paid for and would again.

Long story short, here's what I would like to see from Bioware/a proper ME ending:

1) Implement endings in which player choices made throughout the game have some kind of impact, whether big or small.
2) Give some other offering than the A/B/C Red/Blue/Green choices that are currently in the game.
3) Amend the numerous plot holes.
4) Give closure.
5) Give actual variance of endings. As is, the endings are almost identical. Unacceptable.

If it has to be DLC instead of a patch, that's fine. I would bite the bullet and pay for it. But as is, the endings are an unacceptable ending to a brilliant trilogy, and greatly mar a game that was stupendous up until that point.