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[MysticBinary82]

luzburg wrote...

PistolPete7556 wrote...

xaurabh123 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...



I know this has posted already but that is the simpliest and best ending I have seen. BW should realy use this.

Regardless of what endings we prefer THIS is much better and at least logical then what we got.

this should really happen. Now all we have got A-B-C. Bioware do something about it.

This is how you show decisions matter Bioware. It's not like you haven't done something similar before (DA:O)

this is indeed intresting !

Yes it is and this is around here for 3-4 days. Means, that someone, I don't know who, made a better ending in a few days than BW an 2 years.

[Saeros]

luzburg wrote...

PistolPete7556 wrote...

xaurabh123 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...



I know this has posted already but that is the simpliest and best ending I have seen. BW should realy use this.

Regardless of what endings we prefer THIS is much better and at least logical then what we got.

this should really happen. Now all we have got A-B-C. Bioware do something about it.

This is how you show decisions matter Bioware. It's not like you haven't done something similar before (DA:O)

this is indeed intresting !

Bioware, look here!

[Gandalug]

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

[legbones]

Taken from bbc.co.uk's article about this subject

"Since the series' first release in 2007, players have been able to make moral decisions throughout all three games - all with an impact on the end of the saga."

Except, well..nothing in the saga impacts the end. I would have appreciated a "too paragon to choose the renegade ending" and the opposite, "too renegade to choose the paragon ending"


Although I highly doubt any Bioware people are really reading into these threads. Hell, you couldn't pay ME enough to read these threads.

[xaurabh123]

Bioware should at least try to clarify why the existing ending(s?) are great. Where the logic has gone? Why the normandy was trying escape? or how my last crews appear in the normandy in some jungle planet which is definitely not earth. strangely, some people seem to "totally" understand these. GOD knows how.

[luzburg]

Gandalug wrote...

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

seems like the best ending XD

[xaurabh123]

Gandalug wrote...

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

LIKE IT

[Lurchibald]

Gandalug wrote...

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

And that doesn't even make sense... destroyed by whom? Surely not the reapers as the god-child-thing is meant to be the controller, surely not our forces because we made the thing.... there's another plot-hole for ya XD

[DoktorAffentanz]

@ Josephel: Totally agree!!

I guess my favorite moment was drunken Tali. "Emergency induction port."

[N7Adept]

I just finished the game........
Is this my fault, have I done something to anger BioWare?

I dont know what happened. Is everyone stranded? Is the galactic civilization done with? Where the hell is my crew?

I'm almost ok with the concept of the ending. But you would think that they would want to tie up loose ends in the final story of a trilogy, not create a bunch of open ends that make no sense. I just dont understand who sat there at the end of developing and said "This is good."

[Odetus-]

Archonsg wrote...

ElrondDragon wrote...

New endings!
Hold the line!

PS: I wish to have/see those blue kids! 

How about this? 

(repost)

Choices, Closure and the Epilogue
...

...
Anyways, if you have been reading this far.
Thank you.

That was absolutely amazing! This kind of an ending would've made the series, hands down, the greatest in gaming history. As of now, I fear, most people will just remember that in the end Bw dropped the ball. Although the game was amazing, the end was such a lackluster that it always pops on my mind when I think of ME3. The game had incredible bittersweet moments that made me want to cry like a baby, but all I can think of is that horrible ending.

[luzburg]

Saeros78 wrote...

luzburg wrote...

PistolPete7556 wrote...

xaurabh123 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...



I know this has posted already but that is the simpliest and best ending I have seen. BW should realy use this.

Regardless of what endings we prefer THIS is much better and at least logical then what we got.

this should really happen. Now all we have got A-B-C. Bioware do something about it.

This is how you show decisions matter Bioware. It's not like you haven't done something similar before (DA:O)

this is indeed intresting !

Bioware, look here!

im not a "pro" with the forum stuff so someone shuld spread it around

[Brother Kosh]

N7Adept wrote...

I just finished the game........
Is this my fault, have I done something to anger BioWare?

I dont know what happened. Is everyone stranded? Is the galactic civilization done with? Where the hell is my crew?

I'm almost ok with the concept of the ending. But you would think that they would want to tie up loose ends in the final story of a trilogy, not create a bunch of open ends that make no sense. I just dont understand who sat there at the end of developing and said "This is good."

You have a watch of that then feel free to join the line.  It's holding.

[DoktorAffentanz]

@all: This pic with the alternate solutions... I can't enlarge it. Somebody got a link to the full version?

[geckosentme]

Dear Casey Hudson,

For the most part loved what you did with the series.  Disappointed with the last few minutes as they tend to run counter to all of the previously established dialectic that Shepard has fought for.  Essentially the arguments of the StarChild/Reapers has been morally repudiated by Shepard's own actions if not by force of arms throughout the entire series.

I care less about multiple endings than I do just making any ending that meshes with the previous message of the series.

My proposal is simple:

Cut the StarChild sequence entirely.  Let Shepard die peacefully next to Anderson.  Let the fate of the mission remain ambiguous.  Did the Crucible work?  Were the reapers destroyed?  It is up to player imagination to decide how bittersweet this ending is.  Did Shepard try and fail?  Roll credits.

Not only does this proposal require only the most minimal work from a development perspective, as only a little bit more digital acting work needs to be done, it also opens up enough ambiguity to allow everyone to feel okay..

Those who wish shepard were alive can interpret it as Shepard just closes his/her eyes.

Additionally, this move allows Bioware to develop future installments of ME franchise with a great deal more freedom than the current ending allows.  Perhaps a future game 100 years in the future as the last vesitges of galactic society is on the run from the reapers a new hero arises to finish what Shep could not.  Or perhaps Shepard never lived to see his/her success and we can pick up with a new threat later down the line in a rebuilt future.  Or Shep failed and a new game begins with a human hero resuscitated into the next cycle.  Etc.  you get my point.

Anyway, great job on ME btw, my only complaint is NOT the multiple endings issue but simply the fact that the "message" of the ending as it stands is antithetical to everything Shepard and the player stood for.  To lose to the reapers would be a more honorable ending for Shepard than to be forced to make the decision s/he is currently offered.

Warmest Regards,

Steve

Modifié par geckosentme, 20 mars 2012 - 05:56 .

[Fuzrum77]

Lurchibald wrote...

Gandalug wrote...

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

And that doesn't even make sense... destroyed by whom? Surely not the reapers as the god-child-thing is meant to be the controller, surely not our forces because we made the thing.... there's another plot-hole for ya XD

LOL. Good point. Wow, Bioware fails again.

[GeoGirl2008]

I loved Mass Effect 3, the story was great, lots of emotion, the game play was smooth and combat improved over the last two games, lots of heart wrenching bittersweet moments that made me cry. Mordin, Legion, Cortez's story, the bringing together of the Quarians and Geth, making the Turians and the Krogan's allies, Jack as a crazy awesome Biotic teacher, getting to be with your LI again, so many wonderfully written scenes, so deep and well thought out, I couldn't pick a favourite one. This game was well on its way to being my favourite game of all time.


And then I reached the end. I just didn't fit. it seemed one dimentional, where was the great writing that propelled the story to that point? I chose destroy because that was the goal from day one, but it took me a very long time to make that decision. Why couldn't I argue that there was no need for the reapers as I had EDI and the Geth as PROOF that synthectics weren't out to destroy organics. It hurt my heart to have to destroy the geth...but controlling the reapers seemed like giving into them, and combining organics and synthetics while appealing at first just seemed wrong to me. I just spent 35+ hours getting everyone in the galaxy to put asside their differences and work together, it seemed like a betrayal to force them all to assimilate into sameness. So I chose destroy, Im sorry Geth, Im sorry Joker and EDI. 


Suddenly it was over, and I was left feeling hollow, empty inside, I wasnt just sad, I was depressed. I always suspected that Shepard would probably die, (even if I hoped she could live to retire happily with Kaidan and have little biotic babies) I was prepared for that, but the lack of resoultion to what happened to the rest of the crew and the galaxy at large is probably what hurt the most. Is my Shepard alive? I saw her take a breath in the end  but I thought that ME3 was supposed to be Shepard's last story. Where is my crew, how did my squadmates suddenly get back on the normandy, why was it leaving without me...I watched stargazer, felt more confusion, and then turned off my xbox.


I havent had the heart to turn it on again since. I have multiple different play throughs of ME1 and ME2, but I dont know if those Shepards will ever see an end to their stories, because right now it still hurts to think about the end. I think the only thing keeping me going is the thought that maybe all the evidence presented for the Indoctrination theroy is correct, and the game is not actually over, but we were all subjected to one of the most brilliant plot devices of any RPG in history, a game trying to indoctrinate its players in real time. It explains the lack of resoultion in the end of the game and the relative slience of the Devs, they are waiting for everyone to play to the end, make their choice, and then they will reveal whether we made the right choice in the end or not.  All this discussion, speculation, and even demands for a different ending is generating great press for BioWare. My kudos, even if this wasnt your intention from the start. But I would still like some closure please.
 

Modifié par GeoGirl2008, 20 mars 2012 - 05:59 .

[redhaudiof]

I have been with the movement for a new ending since the beginning. There are so many wonderful suggestions in this thread that I do not feel I need to restate them. I would just like to continue to voice my support by posting here, hoping to be another drop in the bucket that has become a well. Listen to your fans, BioWare; your real fans. We love your ability as developers, so help us love your game, to the End. We will repay you a hundredfold.

Hold the Line.

What we want:

New endings that reflect the choices that we have made throughout the Mass Effect trilogy and that are internally consistent with the story you presented in Mass Effect 3. An ending that provides closure and reflects the character OUR Shepard has become (both the developers AND the players). We want to know what happens to the universe at large, but especially to the companions that mean so much to us, our squadmates. Give your fans and your trilogy the denouement they deserve.

[Archonsg]

Lurchibald wrote...

Gandalug wrote...

 If you are wondering what will happend if you don't choose at end:



Crucible gets destroyed 

And that doesn't even make sense... destroyed by whom? Surely not the reapers as the god-child-thing is meant to be the controller, surely not our forces because we made the thing.... there's another plot-hole for ya XD

Which points more and more that the ending we got WAS intended as is. There was no "prelude" to indoctrination, which still is a good theory that unfortunately compromises Shepard. Once you go down that silppery slope, you *must* question Shepard's every action thereafter. 

Its better to keep Shepard "Pure" (*snort* "Like hell!" says my Renegade Shepard) but you know what I mean. Keep Shepard, Shepard without the taint of Indoctrinaiton, otherwise you raise more plot holes, more contraversy over what happens after. 

I know fans of the theory sees it as something that makes sense of the current BS of an ending we got. But that is precisely why we should not accept a "faux ending" loophole, even one we made for Bioware. 

Bioware should just admit that what they did was wrong. Its not art, its not science, it might be considered Fantasy though, a very bad piece of fantastical illogical nonsense writing, but there's that. Don't settle for something you guys know as wrong and then make up a flawed (and yes indoctrination is flawed from a Hero - player character point of view) BUT PLAUSIBLE, which in itself pretty amazing. You guys really did a great job making it believeable.

So please guys, please don't settle for less then a full re-write. Bioware through arrogance, ego or simply greed, decided at the last minute to take everything the player has done over 5 years, over the course of 2 and 99% of the the third game and decided to throw it all out. Don't do yourself a disservice by allowing yourselves (even if you want to believe) getting punked and then being told that you should like it.

[phillers]

While I am one to normally side with the game developers...I just can't on this one...The ending could have been so much better, conclusive, happier even.
Also, why can't Shepard have a happy ending? I appreciate Bioware trying to do something different with the end...but in reality, I feel that they just conformed to what movies and other games are doing today-It's become so hard to find brighter endings these days and I find myself having to go back to older games like Knights of the Old Republic to actually see an uplifting ending. This is not to say that I want absolutely everyone to survive (I thought that the deaths of Mordin, Thane and Legion were very well done and brought tears-good ones-to my eyes) but I would like my 6000+ war assests to make a difference and I would like to see them in action.
All that said, I absolutely loved the games and thought ME3 was brilliant up until the last 5-10 minutes. I enjoyed all the times I actually got to talk to Garrus and other crew members and seeing them interact together (In this area, I really felt that Bioware had listened to their fans who had asked for more dialogues with LIs or other crew members). My favorite moment had to be Garrus and James comparing war stories and planning on how they would single-handedly save the galaxy-with some minor help from Shepard.
I'm hoping against hope that news of some changes will be coming soon!

[Raptorxd]

Mass Effect was the best thing that ever happened to me, game-wise.

It was sheer and utter brilliance, right until the end. It really was.

Its just.. There are to many questions left unanswered. To much vagueness on VERY essential themes.

Mass Effect was like Lost: a great ride, but after the final episode.. I'd rather not speak of it ever again.

[Blue Liara]

 Heres my thought on the endings....Really I thought it was one ending. Oh yea its 3 no 16.....wait Bioware tying to indoctrinate....assuming control. SCREW YOU GOD CHILD ITS ONE ENDING.....AHHH EAT THERMAL CLIP!!!!!   

Modifié par Blue Liara, 20 mars 2012 - 06:02 .

[Sgt. Thompson]

I think the big question that everyone is asking is if there is a continuation. Shep taking a breath at the end of the "perfect ending" would suggest that the fight is not over. To Chris and all the folks at Bioware, the suspense is killing me. I feel like the end end was intentionally withheld after seeing that. Many don't seem to like the indoctrination idea or think Bioware isn't smart enough to pull it off but I give them the benefit of the doubt. At least it makes everything after Harbys beam make more sense. Well, almost everything. Joker in FTL while everything explodes with my squad mates still has my head scratching, but I will overlook that. I honestly don't think the need to change the "end", but add on to it. I would like to know what happened to the galaxy. How our choices effected the different races? Is the galaxy finally at peace? Did Shep wake up and tell Harbinger to shove it before he destroyed him? How are our squad mates doing? I invested heavily in this series only to keep guessing as to the fate of everything. I don't like that. I get it if you didn't want to make people mad with definite endings but I rather have that then a "?". I enjoyed every minute of this game, but I feel like there are minutes that I haven't enjoyed yet.

[Muffty_]

Terribad ending to a awesome series of games. Bioware should hang their heads in shame, get down on their collective knees and apologize for giving us such a failure of an ending. Also whoever thought that the current ending was acceptable should be fired forthwith.
On a lighter note this made me laugh :

Modifié par Muffty , 20 mars 2012 - 06:09 .

[Enigma457]

well i really hope they change the ending...there should be a 100% paragon ending where shepard is able to talk the child into seeing that the universe is working together again and in case the child pulls all the reapers away until they lose this peace again...shepard survives he/she returns to the normandy kiss his LI (liara in my case) then it fastforwards to 5 6 7 years and you see the little blue child playing in the park as liara did when she was younger you see the child fall and then you see a hand its shepards hand..he/she helps her up and then she says "thank you daddy" it shows liara and shepard standing together holding hands then liara says "come on its getting late lets go in" and then it rolls to the credits...this ending that i just mentioned would make me so so much happier and even if its not with liara as a LI least make a unique ending to any other LI like jack teaching there child how to control her/his anger or ashley teaching her child with shepard the ropes to the alliance etc etc PLEASE BIOWARE come out with a better ending where shepard lives please..