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[Slashice]

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Kyp wrote...

dfdsgrgre wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...



I know this has posted already but that is the simpliest and best ending I have seen. BW should realy use this.

Regardless of what endings we prefer THIS is much better and at least logical then what we got.

I think this ending would be exceptonal if implememted

The problem with this ending flowchart is that it refuses to allow the Geth to turn good, meaning that things owuld have to be shifted all the way back to Rannoch.  Fix that mistake about the Geth always being bad and then this ending is golden.

This.

Funny how random people make soooooo much better endings for Mass Effect 3 than payed professionals... well what could we expect after the Deception novel, right?

[Twinzam.V]

At least ME Deception was true to its title.

[RockJonRoll]

Twinzam.V wrote...

At least ME Deception was true to its title.

On that note. This kind of fudged up ending makes me wonder if William C Deitz had a hand in scripting the final moments of Mass Effect 3.

[Meruvian]

Twinzam.V wrote...

At least ME Deception was true to its title.

Ouch!  But so true

[Slashice]

RockJonRoll wrote...

Twinzam.V wrote...

At least ME Deception was true to its title.

On that note. This kind of fudged up ending makes me wonder if William C Deitz had a hand in scripting the final moments of Mass Effect 3.

Thinking about the same... the last 10-15 minutes were just so inconsistent with the whole trilogy lorewise that this might be true...

[Omnike]

jeweledleah wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

No, its okay if Shepard dies on ONE of the endings. Your actions, your choices, your assets, everything you have done in the past 5 years, over the course of 3 games SHOULD MATTER.
We were promised MULTIPLE endings. Why can't a "happy, Shepard lives" be one of them?

you are one of the very few people saying that.  most are going - we're fine with no happy endings, we're fine with Shepard always dying.

I have no problem with Shepard dying some of the time.  in fact - make the death mean something - make it save more lives.  for most people though?  they expect Shepard not to live through the war.  ever. regardless of the choices. and this makes me lose hope.  I want at least some of my Shepards to have an option to survive and go on with their lives.  I'm apparently in a minority.

That's kind of the point of the whole series right? Like, your Shepard will die if he didn't make the right choices leading up to him surviving. Because if someone asked me to attach a single word to Mass Effect, it would be choice. Our choices should actually impact the last 10 minutes. If they had actually kept their promise of 16 DIFFERENT endings, I almost feel like one of them would have to be happy. Can't really do anything but ignore the hipsters saying "death is art".

[xFyre1]

If the point was to have our choices matter, then all ending types should be possible.

[DaveSimonH]

The whole multiplayer lopping off 50% of your War Assets is something that really irks me. I think a base level of 75-80% "effective military strength" would be a lot more fair for those of us that don't want to play multiplayer. I could only manage about 7000 total, so 3500 effective military strength.
I couldn't find any more missions to do, I did all the N7 & "Citadel eavesdropping" vague missions and scanned every system to 100%. I could have easily played some multiplayer, but refused to do so to test Bioware's claim that even without multiplayer you could "get the best ending".

You may not agree about the multiplayer, you may in fact enjoy it and think that it adds to your game experience. But I ask you this, what happens in a few years time when the next Xbox & Playstation are released and EA take down/discontinue the ME3 multiplayer? You'd be happy sacrificing half of the war assets you'd earned?

Modifié par DaveSimonH, 20 mars 2012 - 07:18 .

[Pandoravv3]

Slashice wrote...

Apocaleepse360 wrote...

Kyp wrote...

dfdsgrgre wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

MysticBinary82 wrote...



I know this has posted already but that is the simpliest and best ending I have seen. BW should realy use this.

Regardless of what endings we prefer THIS is much better and at least logical then what we got.

I think this ending would be exceptonal if implememted

The problem with this ending flowchart is that it refuses to allow the Geth to turn good, meaning that things owuld have to be shifted all the way back to Rannoch.  Fix that mistake about the Geth always being bad and then this ending is golden.

This.

Funny how random people make soooooo much better endings for Mass Effect 3 than payed professionals... well what could we expect after the Deception novel, right?

While I love it, They would still have to do something after that. It's a great checklist, but I want some closure for what happens to all my squadmates at the end of the story.

[ErMacPE]

Besides the obvious comment about doing something about the endings of the game (most of the comments I've read in this thread cover various permutations of what would be considered "ideal" endings etc), the only thing I'd love to see maybe a little tweaked would be the quest journal. Because you tend to pick up a lot of the side quests in passing as it were, you don't always know what your current status with a specific quest might be.

Thanks!

[jeweledleah]

MoSa09 wrote...

Reverendez wrote...

This is completely reasonable. More than anything I wanted to see Shepard get back together with the LI at the end in some fashion. It's hard to do that and still have a bittersweet ending, though, which is what fits the story.
 But as long as something lives on, a sense of continuation I think may satisfy this. That may come in many forms given the choices throughout. Shepard only really dies in the control option. He/she kindof becomes one with the universe in the synthesis option, and the destroy option Shepard has a chance to survive it, but has to destroy EDI and the Geth to do it, which is kindof lame.

I don't think thats hard at all. Remember Mordin or Thane? Or Legion? Very bittersweet moments. Who said in the ending where Shep lives and reunites with the LI, all have to make it? You could lose the Normandy and Joker on the way, Hackett, Anderson, or perhaps you face a tough battle and need to sent a crewmate or 2 to cover your back, just unlike ME 2, you know its a suicide battle this time. Ordering them to their death, and mourning their death after the battle is over has very much bittersweet potential even if Shep survives and reunites with the LI

pretty much.  its already bittersweet no matter what.  add in remembering of all that were lost to the ending and there you go - sadness.  ruined planets, societies staggered by all the losses - there's your bittersweet.  I mentioned it in one of my posts, but the only reason the nightmares got to me was not a burning kid.  I didn't really care about the kid.  I did care about the voices of the lost though.  Ashley yelling at my Shepard that she made the right choice, hearing Thane's prayer, Mordin's "it had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong", Legion... THAT got to me.  remembering the lost got to me.  its what made Alchera in ME2 so powerful.

as much as I hate death, as much as I wanted him and Kahlee to finaly stop wasting time and get together - I found Anderson's death to be an extremely powerful moment.  killing off Shepard and relays on top of that was just.... too much.

[BudgetSpartan]

This may have already been covered in earlier posts, but I have some points to raise. First off i loved this game up to the lastfew minutes (familiar theme), there are soo many fantastic moments, not just in Mass Effect 3 but all the Mass Effect games, it's something that goes above and beyond lots of other franchises, a fleshed out universe with characters you want to invest time in, and then the ending of the game basically disregards it all. As somebody else said in a previous post, I really wanted to play it through several times, I had several playthroughs, romancing all the main female characters, and I was curious to see how it, and all the other choices i'd made panned out. Now I've lost all impetus to do so. But on the whole, fantastic game Bioware, apart from the ending.
       How ever I come to my main Issues. The Catalyst essentially establishes that the Reapers aim is to cull advanced races before synthetic life (Geth etec) eradicates everyone right? Yet hasn't it been proven in each game that the Geth were being manipulated by the Reapers? As were many other races? So basically the reapers are destroying us before the geth do, which they were making them do anyway? Which is all redundant because they have sided with the organics to destroy the Reapers? Is this an elaborate attempt at indoctrinating Shepard in the end or should he just have pointed out the window and told the Catalyst he was wrong?
         What happened to your allies in the end? And their fleets? Do you kill everyone on the Citadel when it blows or had the Reapers already done that? If the mass relays are gone, who long will it take your alien allies to get home? Can they even?
     I had an idea for how i would have had the game end. You would have been faced with four choices that played out in similar fashion to the game, but with an epilogue cutscene on the Citadel with all your crew.
OPTION 1- The reapers head back into deep space, you blow the mass relays, and buy the galaxy some time, a couple of cycles, but the Catalyst warn you it will all play out again. Back on the Citadel all the humans are pleased, Joker is happy EDI lives and they plan to spend the rest of their time together. Liara, Garrus, Wrex and Tali are sad, they have a long journey home, and they will most likely not make the journey back to see each other every again. Everybody says sad farewells.
OPTION 2- You destroy the reapers and the synthetics, the mass relays remain. Back on the Citadel most of the crew are happy, Joker is devastated EDI is gone. Tali is also sad the Geth are dead, the war and  peace all seem so pointless now, especially as the Geth help to rebuild Rannoch is gone. 
OPTION 3- Synthesis, which combines the DNA, and leaves the relays open. Back on the Citadel everybody is very uneasy about the decision, there is significant worry it was all a trap and everybody is now a slave to the Reapers.
OPTION 4- You give yourself to the Catalyst and take control of the Reapers, but not before he warns you that if it all comes to pass, it will be your job to cleanse life. The Reapers leave for deep space. Back on the citadel everybody is happy the war is over, but devastated to have lost Shepard. They all admit though they said goodbye they thought they would see him again. They all promise to keep his memory and the legend of his deeds alvie 

[RiGoRmOrTiS_UK]

@masseffect Enjoying all the news coverage? How long before we hear what Bioware plans to do? http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

@rigormortis_uk More than two weeks, that's for sure. A lot of people haven't even completed the game yet.

Looks like we'll have to hold the line for quite some time!

So need to keep the pressure on until PAX maybe? thats 2 weeks and 1 day away.

Modifié par RiGoRmOrTiS_UK, 20 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[Vox Draco]

Omnike wrote...

That's kind of the point of the whole series right? Like, your Shepard will die if he didn't make the right choices leading up to him surviving. Because if someone asked me to attach a single word to Mass Effect, it would be choice. Our choices should actually impact the last 10 minutes. If they had actually kept their promise of 16 DIFFERENT endings, I almost feel like one of them would have to be happy. Can't really do anything but ignore the hipsters saying "death is art".

So true...I want the choice to avoid that ****ed up death-trap for my shepard in the end. Why couldn't hey just do what everyone (almost) had dreamed of since part 1? Letting Shepard kick Reaper-**** for all it is worth, and depending on the choices made more or less of the galaxy goes to hell, characters die...or shepard survives?

It is usually the easy stories that are the best. And not everything that claims to be art actually is art.

[Semi-Sweet Serpent Charmer]

 I just have to say throughout all the drama over the endings, that I absolutely loved this game, including the fight-against-indoctrination ending (i'm leading pretty hard on that theory, as it seemed kind of obvious to me that's what was happening while I was playing it, and I destroyed the Reapers, and only afterwards did I get online to find that thousands of other people got the same impression.)   The tie ups of every characters story was briliant; for example.  I healed the genophage, and the moment the cure is released into the air was so heartbreakingly bittersweet on the tail of Mordin's death, I literally had to wipe my eyes.  Beautiful. 

I am familiar with how Bioware sticks to the themes that permeate our real lives.  New life from the ashes of destruction; hope in the midst of despair; created family with those different from us, whom in the process of knowing and fighting with them we learn are not so different from ourselves; and the reality of sacrifice for the betterment of all.  I've been playing Bioware games since I was a teenager (Original BG Bhaalspawn here) and I've seen it again and again, and every character you guys bring to the fore ends up moving me and earning a place in my heart long after I stop playing whatever game they were in.  

We love you guys.  The game was beautiful and awesome; and I look forward to DLC (that hopefully answers all our questions about the ending), and please know that the fans who've walked with you since the beginning are still here, step for step.  

[SimonM72]

Interesting tweets coming from Harby the reaper;

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

SimonM72 wrote...

Harby seems to insinuate so;

Vi@Asenza wrote...

How many reapers does it take to stop Commander Shepard?

Harbythereaper wrote...

SIX HUNDRED AND ONE. SIX HUNDRED FIGHT HIS INTERGALACTIC ARMADA AND ONE PRETENDS TO BE A KID AND TALKS HIM INTO SUICIDE

I ****ing lost it

New tweet from Harby;

Harbythereaper wrote...
ORGANICS KEEPS ASKING ME - DID YOU TRIED TO INDOCTRINATE SHEPARD, DID IT INFLUENCED ENDING? HERE'S STRAIGHT ANSWER FOR YOU: MAYBE.

[MDT1]

RiGoRmOrTiS_UK wrote...

@masseffect Enjoying all the news coverage? How long before we hear what Bioware plans to do? http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719

@rigormortis_uk More than two weeks, that's for sure. A lot of people haven't even completed the game yet.

Especially those that couldn't start their campaign jet because they couldn't import their Shepard.

Just kidding, I don't honestly think Bioware will keep the face import bug just because they want to be able to say people haven't played the game through in the future.

[adamdehass]

Honestly, some people are calling for bioware to not change their endings. To those people i say, what does it hurt if bioware releases ending dlc? If you dont want it, you dont have to download it if they come out with it, you can keep your bad endings, as for me, i want my hollywood storybook ending, thank you very much. And yes bioware, i will pay for it. I already have 1600 microsoft points set aside specifically for mass effect 3 dlc, please make one of them endings.

[ellcia]

This has probably been posted before, but in my opinion the guy nailed it when it comes to endings:

[Rulycar]

http://www.technewsw...tory/74668.html

Ouch ... that FTC complaint hurts.

[garytwine]

I saw this objective article, especially the text below and had to add it. It is a very good analogy to how some of us fans feel about the ending. This is just one reason but the writer continues along the same vein in a very insightful way regarding the other issues regarding the ending.

Hopefully Bioware will understand a little more why we are dissapointed to the point of feeling we have to say/do something:

"Since I promised no spoilers, let’s stick with the example of Tolkien and use the film adaptation of the Lord of the Rings trilogy as a passable analogy. Everybody jokes about how long it takes The Return of the King to end, but be honest: after twelve hours of movie spread out over three years, wasn’t that twenty minutes of catharsis exactly what you needed? Okay, now imagine that The Lord of the Rings takes a hundred hours to watch, and that The Return of the King ended with that shot of Frodo and Sam lying on the side of Mount Doom after the ring had been destroyed.

That’s how a lot of Mass Effect fans are feeling right now. After spending years with a series that has gone out of its way to give you details about characters and events, many players feel that the lack of closure at the end of ME3 is not only akin to a broken promise, but does not reflect the level of detail presented throughout the entire series (including the majority of ME3 itself). Moreover, as BioWare had previously made it clear that ME3 was the final chapter of Commander Shepard’s odyssey, some feel that  ending the stories of so many complex characters in such an abrupt manner marked yet another break in narrative."

Source: http://www.themarysu...ee-as-possible/

Modifié par garytwine, 20 mars 2012 - 07:43 .

[Flyers215]

adamdehass wrote...

Honestly, some people are calling for bioware to not change their endings. To those people i say, what does it hurt if bioware releases ending dlc? If you dont want it, you dont have to download it if they come out with it, you can keep your bad endings, as for me, i want my hollywood storybook ending, thank you very much. And yes bioware, i will pay for it. I already have 1600 microsoft points set aside specifically for mass effect 3 dlc, please make one of them endings.

Changing the ending and adding additional endings are different things in my eyes.  I do not want them to change the endings that are already there.  I like what is there and now consider that to be the ending of Mass Effect.

Yes, I'd like to see some additional ending with ways to get there, but I don't want it to be stapled on to the very end of the game.  I'd like to see it develop, to see a new choice make sense, and to then see that work come to fruition atop the Crucible.

I really don't want a hollywood/storybook ending, but I'd still buy it just to see Shepard and Traynor together again.

[Seival]

adamdehass wrote...

Honestly, some people are calling for bioware to not change their endings. To those people i say, what does it hurt if bioware releases ending dlc? If you dont want it, you dont have to download it if they come out with it, you can keep your bad endings, as for me, i want my hollywood storybook ending, thank you very much. And yes bioware, i will pay for it. I already have 1600 microsoft points set aside specifically for mass effect 3 dlc, please make one of them endings.

This.

I have 4000 BioWare points and I'm ready to spent them all on ME3 perfect ending DLC, if they will make it, and make it correct (using the scheme, mentioned before, and using fan's polls). 

[shephard987]

Guys, it has come to my attention that Ken Levine is sad over this
fan outcry that is us.
Here is the link to the article.
After finishing reading that article, I sent Mr. Levine our official mission statement,
our reasons for organizing this movement and also a rational dissection of the endings
which are in question.
Please send letters or messages explaining our rationale behind our reasons,
as Mr. Levine is probably one of the most creative minds of the present day,
and if we show him the reason,
I hope we can alleviate his discontent with the situation.

http://www.theverge....-ken-levine-sad

Thank you.

Hold the Line

[robedon08]

1st time posting guys and girls just my quick opinion though. For me the easiest way for us to get the ending we want is to make it possible to just kill the reapers and only the reapers at the end.

The easiest way I can see to do it would be to have the Illusive Man be in possession of the cerberus research from the human reaper (obviously the effect the research would have depends on the collector base decision) after obtaining the research you can use it to reprogram/alter the destroy/control endings (depending on collector base decision) so it only affects the reapers and not all synthetic life.......

Reapers dead all they have to do is give us new cinematics for all the other decisions we made before London mission (hell text boxes would do)