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[Ottemis]

tschamp wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

tschamp wrote...

Okay since this is the way I feel after watching Angry Joe explain the theory. Bioware need to step up now and say they have a DLC with the "real" ending and how much it is going to cost us to get it. While some will think that this is great "stunt" on Bioware's part, it just makes me very angry. I already paid 70.00 for the game. Why do have to pay more to get the real ending if that is the case. Bioware needs to start speaking because this silence is just making things ten times worst.

They probably think it will blow over, but I doubt that's the case.  People loved this series too much and invested too much time in it to just kick back and accept the awful ending and broken promises.

England release day was the 9th, it's now the 20th. 11 days after the latest release date.
Consider having a bit of patience, dontchathink?

Considering how tight money is for me? That a multi-million dollar company appear to be screwing around with its customer in order to get more money for them in order to get the complete central game? Patience be damn.

Could have waited these 11 days to come to the conclusion that it wasen't worth buying for you.
Which honestly, is a harsch statement for a game that rocks worlds on somany levels, even though it clearly does drop the ball on some fronts.
But if you think demanding the impossible will help, that's your right, you wouldn't be the first and i'll be on my merry way again.

[dvd1154]

they are playing us for money

[dvd1154]

they just want us to spend more of our hard earned money companies don't care about the little guy

[DeadpoolX13]

They should have a big galaxtic festival for the whole crew.  sheperd should get promoted to the highest ranking officer.  And last u should be able to see what happends between u and your romance after the reaper battle.  I myself was looking forward to marrying miranda at the end of the whole game and have tali show her face.  Also seeing how everything worked out for everyone.

Modifié par DeadpoolX13, 21 mars 2012 - 04:40 .

[tschamp]

Ottemis wrote...

tschamp wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

tschamp wrote...

Okay since this is the way I feel after watching Angry Joe explain the theory. Bioware need to step up now and say they have a DLC with the "real" ending and how much it is going to cost us to get it. While some will think that this is great "stunt" on Bioware's part, it just makes me very angry. I already paid 70.00 for the game. Why do have to pay more to get the real ending if that is the case. Bioware needs to start speaking because this silence is just making things ten times worst.

They probably think it will blow over, but I doubt that's the case.  People loved this series too much and invested too much time in it to just kick back and accept the awful ending and broken promises.

England release day was the 9th, it's now the 20th. 11 days after the latest release date.
Consider having a bit of patience, dontchathink?

Considering how tight money is for me? That a multi-million dollar company appear to be screwing around with its customer in order to get more money for them in order to get the complete central game? Patience be damn.

Could have waited these 11 days to come to the conclusion that it wasen't worth buying for you.
Which honestly, is a harsch statement for a game that rocks worlds on somany levels, even though it clearly does drop the ball on some fronts.
But if you think demanding the impossible will help, that's your right, you wouldn't be the first and i'll be on my merry way again.

The impossible? To buy a complete central game is impossible? Seriously? Would you buy half car at full price and have to pay extra to get the engine? Would go buy a 12 pack of soda only to get 6 and have the rest shipped to you at a later date? This was supposed to be the complete product of the central game. I know there would be DLC in future. I accept that and even support it if it enhances the game. HOWEVER, a DLC that you pay in order to get the complete central game is a basic con artist type move. Like I said in the beginning, Bioware needs to speak up now instead of giggling like teenagers playing a prank on one of their buddies. I am not their buddy. I am their customer.

Modifié par tschamp, 21 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[Sealy]

MikeC99 wrote...

And to whoever IS listening – thanks.

And if it’s someone from Bioware – it’s been said before and I hope it keeps getting said – thank you thank you thank you for a great trilogy that we have loved, bled for and for which we would willingly continue to do so. And please do not get distracted by happy versus sad endings – stick to your creative guns for the emotional pitch you want, but please, on bended knees and thin wallets, fix the flaws in the ending! Love your work!!!!!!!!

MikeC

This, I don't need a happy ending where Shep makes off into the sunset with her one and only.(Though if you want to sell me that I will so buuy it, not needing it isn't the same as not wanting it!)  I don't even need one where anyone lives. I just need the ending explained to me cause as they stand I am either too slow or they are too sloppy and don't make sense. Since I am an absolute goddess at interpreting things and searching for deeper meaning ( I live for Shakespear) this just head spins me. 

[KingKhan03]

You guys know what would of made more sense then the current endings? If Super Saiyan Goku from Dragonball Z appeared and used a spirit bomb to take out the reapers.

[Flyers215]

Omnike wrote...

Flyers215 wrote...

Being unhappy with the ending can have the same result in the way that it's presented.  I've seen a plethora of people unhappy with the ending saying "me no like it!!!!  I want a new ending NOW!!!!"  There are also my favourites that tell everyone that they're stupid if they like the endings.

That is also childish behaviour that doesn't have any purpose or add to the conversation at all.  There's no debate or reasoning there.

Well, we don't like it, and we do want an ending now. The ending we paid for. The one we were promised. That's why we're upset.

This is fine.  You're more than able to be upset, but that does not excuse childish behaviour nor does it make it progressive.

[Ottemis]

tschamp wrote...The impossible? To buy a complete central game is impossible? Seriously? Would you buy half car at full price and have to pay extra to get the engine? Would go buy a 12 pack of soda only to get 6 and have the rest shipped to you at a later date? This was supposed to be the complete product of the central game. I know there would be DLC in future. I accept that and even support it if it enhances the game. HOWEVER, a DLC that you pay in order to get the complete central game is basical a con artist type move. Like I said in the beginning, Bioware needs to speak up now instead of giggling like teenagers playing a prank on one of their buddies. I am not their buddy. I am their customer.

I didn't say that did I. You were demanding action now, not realistic.
Bioware's been telling us they are listening. They are asking us for constructive feedback.

[Marsland1234]

 Can I please bring up my biggest issue with the ending? In Mass Effect 1, Vigil stated that once the Reapers had control of the Citadel in the Prothean Cycle, they simply shut off every relay, isolating every major system. The whole point of ME1 was to prevent the reapers from controlling the Citadel. Why did the Reapers leave the relays alone?

And if the indoctrination theroy is true, maybe shepard was indoctrinated at an earlier point at the game, like when the Defence Commity was killed and shepard was thrown back into a wall?  

[MeganHunter]

KingKhan03 wrote...

You guys know what would of made more sense then the current endings? If Super Saiyan Goku from Dragonball Z appeared and used a spirit bomb to take out the reapers.

Asari, I like your style.

 

[venusara]

Straight females have a huge amount of money$$$ to spend Bioware (look at car/house sales). You hooked many of us with Dragon Age, but shafted us with ME3. Gaming is moving beyond horny teenage males and I think someone (EA) in the gaming industry needs to realize that. I have money to burn for the next game that sparks my interest.

[KingKhan03]

MeganHunter wrote...

KingKhan03 wrote...

You guys know what would of made more sense then the current endings? If Super Saiyan Goku from Dragonball Z appeared and used a spirit bomb to take out the reapers.

Asari, I like your style.

 

LOL that video was incredible.

[tschamp]

Ottemis wrote...

tschamp wrote...The impossible? To buy a complete central game is impossible? Seriously? Would you buy half car at full price and have to pay extra to get the engine? Would go buy a 12 pack of soda only to get 6 and have the rest shipped to you at a later date? This was supposed to be the complete product of the central game. I know there would be DLC in future. I accept that and even support it if it enhances the game. HOWEVER, a DLC that you pay in order to get the complete central game is basical a con artist type move. Like I said in the beginning, Bioware needs to speak up now instead of giggling like teenagers playing a prank on one of their buddies. I am not their buddy. I am their customer.

I didn't say that did I. You were demanding action now, not realistic.
Bioware's been telling us they are listening. They are asking us for constructive feedback.

"Being quiet is making things 10 time worst" isn't constructive feedback? There are a lot of very angry customers here and the vast majority have been civil. I think it way past the time for Bioware to recipicate the respect that has been shown to them by these customer and start talking to them on their website.

Modifié par tschamp, 21 mars 2012 - 04:51 .

[Ottemis]

tschamp wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

tschamp wrote...The impossible? To buy a complete central game is impossible? Seriously? Would you buy half car at full price and have to pay extra to get the engine? Would go buy a 12 pack of soda only to get 6 and have the rest shipped to you at a later date? This was supposed to be the complete product of the central game. I know there would be DLC in future. I accept that and even support it if it enhances the game. HOWEVER, a DLC that you pay in order to get the complete central game is basical a con artist type move. Like I said in the beginning, Bioware needs to speak up now instead of giggling like teenagers playing a prank on one of their buddies. I am not their buddy. I am their customer.

I didn't say that did I. You were demanding action now, not realistic.
Bioware's been telling us they are listening. They are asking us for constructive feedback.

"Being quiet is making things 10 time worst" isn't constructive feedback? There are a lot of very angry customers here and the vast majority have be civil. I think it way past the time for Bioware to recipicate the respect that has been shown to them by these customer and start talking to them on their website.

No it's not, because they've communicated listening to our feedback over multiple media. If you conveniently ignore this, your remark is not magically contructive.

[IBPROFEN]

You know the only thing that bothers me from Chris' OP is this: Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game.

Is there that many ppl that hasn't finished it yet?

[Ottemis]

IBPROFEN wrote...

You know the only thing that bothers me from Chris' OP is this: Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game.

Is there that many ppl that hasn't finished it yet?

Short answer, yes.
Long answer, eleven days after British release date. And that's not counting delivery delays, which we all know occurs more often than anyone would like.

Modifié par Ottemis, 21 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[dvd1154]

if they are asking for constructive feedback okay but will they do with it they make us pay for what we want just a waste of my money and time to be played by a company

[improperdancing]

Ottemis wrote...

Could have waited these 11 days to come to the conclusion that it wasen't worth buying for you.
Which honestly, is a harsch statement for a game that rocks worlds on somany levels, even though it clearly does drop the ball on some fronts.
But if you think demanding the impossible will help, that's your right, you wouldn't be the first and i'll be on my merry way again.

Please.  

No one here is demanding the impossible.  They are angry because BioWare told us they were going to do one thing and then did another.  They essentially ruined the entire series for some of us with their lackluster, poorly-written, ill-conceived, obviously rushed endings.  

What's the point of replaying the series now to make different choices when, in the end, none of your choices actually matter?  Why bother replaying Mass Effect 3 in particular when, no matter what you do, no matter who you save, no matter how many allies you bring to the final battle, the best you can hope for is a five second clip of Shepherd taking a breath?

As someone who is an avid lover of stories (be it books, movies, or TV shows with continuous plot lines) and not just someone who plays video games, I'm of the opinion that an awful ending can ruin everything that came before it.  The show Lost was irreperably poisoned for me due to the terrible final episode.  I saw no point in ever watching and following the characters again knowing they all ended up at such an unsatisfying conclusion. 

Mass Effect 3, to me, is the new Lost.  A great series that was poisoned by an awful ending that failed to live up to everything that came before it.  I've also pretty much lost faith in BioWare as a company, as it's hard to trust anyone who released a story-driven game with such a thoughtless finale.  The only reason I'm posting here, in fact, is because I would very much like to let them know that they've lost a customer, and also to hammer home all of the reasons I hated their ending to what was previously one of my favorite gaming franchises.

[tschamp]

Ottemis wrote...

tschamp wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

tschamp wrote...The impossible? To buy a complete central game is impossible? Seriously? Would you buy half car at full price and have to pay extra to get the engine? Would go buy a 12 pack of soda only to get 6 and have the rest shipped to you at a later date? This was supposed to be the complete product of the central game. I know there would be DLC in future. I accept that and even support it if it enhances the game. HOWEVER, a DLC that you pay in order to get the complete central game is basical a con artist type move. Like I said in the beginning, Bioware needs to speak up now instead of giggling like teenagers playing a prank on one of their buddies. I am not their buddy. I am their customer.

I didn't say that did I. You were demanding action now, not realistic.
Bioware's been telling us they are listening. They are asking us for constructive feedback.

"Being quiet is making things 10 time worst" isn't constructive feedback? There are a lot of very angry customers here and the vast majority have be civil. I think it way past the time for Bioware to recipicate the respect that has been shown to them by these customer and start talking to them on their website.

No it's not, because they've communicated listening to our feedback over multiple media. If you conveniently ignore this, your remark is not magically contructive.

Thier replies are basically,"We are watching." That is it? The release the most ancitpated game in 2012 according to numerous game sites. If you browsed my posting, I did post what I thought of the game postive and negitive. It has been a week now, nothing out of Bioware. Zip. Zero. Nothing other than,"We are watching." Like that helps anything. How about Bioware comes out and says,"The ending is the ending." That would be something at least.

[The Peon]

IBPROFEN wrote...

You know the only thing that bothers me from Chris' OP is this: Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game.

Is there that many ppl that hasn't finished it yet?

Yes, but most of them will never finish, or will stop playing and finish months later.

I think that response is a sign that they really have no idea what to do. I would bet they've been in meetings evey work day for the past week about this.

Modifié par The Peon, 21 mars 2012 - 04:58 .

[Ottemis]

@improperdancing: Follow the entire exchange and comment on that, or don't respond at all.
You are randomly responding to one post in a line of posts in responce to a specific statement, and your responce as such (allthough valid in it's own right) should not be directed at me.

@tscham : A whole week. As I was saying, patience.

Modifié par Ottemis, 21 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[Iconoclaste]

MikeC99 wrote...

Relays and Super-novas

 I don’t see necessarily that these have an impact as in an explosion. We have neutrinos buzzing through us – literally – and have no idea. So the expanding rings are the effect rays, not the explosions, in which case it doesn’t NECESSARILY follow that there is any effect other than whatever the coloured ray is supposed to do, ie synthesise organic and non-organic if it’s green etc etc.

Good post, sir.

But just on that one : in the cutscene where you see the Normandy trying to escape the "blast" (any color), the "effect" is always the same, and it destroys the rear bumper and a little more. I thought that was maybe caused by the fact that the Normandy's reactor was in this section, and since everything Reaper-related was destroyed, only the aft part of Normandy was deleted, and not the front. I pulled hard to fetch that explanation, because it implies that "Element zero", the fuel behind the "mass effect", was to be destroyed wherever it is found, within the reach of the Reaper's "space-magic". But that also implies that this "Element Zero" is destroyed even in the "synthesis" solution, so I don't see the point.

[improperdancing]

Ottemis wrote...

@improperdancing: Follow the entire exchange and comment on that, or don't respond at all.
You are randomly responding to one post in a line of posts in responce to a specific statement, and your responce as such (allthough valid in it's own right) should not be directed at me.

@tscham : A whole week. As I was saying, patience.

I read the entire post, but was specifically commenting on your final reply.  Trust me, I know how forums work.  I deleted all of the irrelevant text before your final reply to avoid clutter, not to ignore what was said before.