Tandem Toad wrote...
BIOWARE, I LOVED THE ENDING!! Future games set in the Mass Effect universe will make more sense with the ending Bioware gave it. Having Shepard as a martyr give future games more meaning. I hate that people are hatin' on the ending.
Motherlander wrote...
I see you closed the "Describe Mass effect in three word" thread. Obviously there is a limit to your listening, and definately your humour.
I would stop drinkingTandem Toad wrote...
BIOWARE, I LOVED THE ENDING!! Future games set in the Mass Effect universe will make more sense with the ending Bioware gave it. Having Shepard as a martyr give future games more meaning. I hate that people are hatin' on the ending.
Tandem Toad wrote...
BIOWARE, I LOVED THE ENDING!! Future games set in the Mass Effect universe will make more sense with the ending Bioware gave it. Having Shepard as a martyr give future games more meaning. I hate that people are hatin' on the ending.
Modifié par jeweledleah, 25 mars 2012 - 12:37 .
Modifié par Beyond.the.Grave, 25 mars 2012 - 12:42 .
Beyond.the.Grave wrote...
Reminds me of the scene from the matrix where neo meetsThe Architect. Just With terrible execution.
With Subtitles
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
Modifié par Namz89, 25 mars 2012 - 12:50 .
Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
Namz89 wrote...
Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
Really? Does that makes sense?
Are you talking about the plan to use synthetics to kill organics before the organics make synthetics that kill them? Tell me how that works.Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
ClixWizard wrote...
Are you talking about the plan to use synthetics to kill organics before the organics make synthetics that kill them? Tell me how that works.Flyers215 wrote...
Lord Irvine wrote...
Anyone else listen to the Catalyst and figure out his logic makes no sense?
I thought it made sense. He had a plan and it worked for quite some time. Shepard being too awesome made his plan no longer function, so she had to lead the charge into the new plan. She then chooses how to get rid of the current plan.
Modifié par Mbednar, 25 mars 2012 - 12:56 .
Modifié par Sladarius, 25 mars 2012 - 01:20 .
Sladarius wrote...
First of all I would just like to clarify that I in no way perceive the end choices as bad. Sacrifice always has to be made, we don’t live in a society where everything always works out well, and the drama in a video game accompanied by a sad score of music makes quite a good impact. I do not want to change the end choices, I am however incredibly displeased with how they were carried out.
If you are going to make a story end in such a manner it has to emotionally entrance the audience. The designer coulve done better in this. The unexpected explosion, The melting of the armour, almost dying to a mere single enemy unit, being the sole survivor with Anderson, both barely clinging to life, this is all good storytelling and very compelling.
The conversation with the Illusive man is also quite compelling, However his lines and actions at the end were very poor considering how much of a role his character played. He mimicked Saren in shooting himself in the head, when Saren did this it was still fresh, when the illusive man did it, the first thought I had was, "damn really? that’s all they could think of?" At least let the man hold some integrity, he kept on believing in Shepard, if you view the vid logs, the illusive man never really wants to kill Shepard off, even as enemies, he knows Shepard is a true friend of mankind. And you always see him struggling in his conviction, deep down he is a good person. He needed an honourable death, he needed some form of redemption. Maybe as he realizes he has been indoctrinated, The reaper forces catch on to the intrusion of Shepard and Anderson, and the Illusive mans indoctrination weakening and attack, and the illusive man locks down the room putting himself on the other side of a door, Something like that, and against the oncoming onslaught has a smart line, that relates to some other dialogue he has given in the game ( as he lights a cigarette)
After this the Anderson Shepard part is great, very moving. And the idea of the catalyst is great. But your dialogue is flawed in parts. The core part of the catalysts reasoning behind the cycle was that Synthetics will always rebel and ultimately destroy organic life, so its solution (the reapers) was an attempt to preserve it. If you are Paragon You have proven that the Geth can work together and coexist with the Quarians, Why can’t you say that to the catalyst. Why can’t I give EDI as an example of how Artificial life doesn’t have to combine with organic in order to co exist. That individuality is what gives life, not the composition of our body. Why cant I get upset and give a monologue about legion, with a few flashback images and mention his sacrifice.
Then the Catalyst would say something like “even if one race of synthetics coexists with a race of organics, organics will always destroy each other, it is inevitable. Then shepard would give a monologue of the Krogans and how He cured them, how they put aside their differences to fight for survival and work together with the people that afflicted them, how he saved the Rachni, how they after soo much destruction only wanted peace, with soo much reason for vengeance.
Catalyst: “If this battle concludes with the end of my solution, and the survival of your races, when the conflict ends, who is to say whether or not the peace will last? What is to stop a civilisation from one day amassing enough technology to build its own reapers and wage war?”.”.
Shepard: We will remember this day, we will remember what could happen, what we never want to happen again.
Ultimately this would lead into the final choices again that you have to make. The catalyst even if convinced cannot activate the device only you can.
- Sacrifice yourself to merge with the reapers and to control them, leaving the universe up to itself whether or not the cycle continues. (giving it a good chance) In this ending, Shepard deconstructing as he holds onto the device should be drawn out, with him struggling to hold on. He should get flashbacks of quotes from all his companions, from wrex, from legion, and ultimately from his love interest, then he should have a moment of pause where he thinks about them, and draws strength from them and pushes forward finishing the process). All the Reapers turn blue cored, the twisted reaper forces ignite in blue flames releasing lights that look like souls traveling up into the sky all at once, The people of the city watch in awe, as some angelic music plays. The reapers lift up and take off. Garrus says: "he did it". I cant believe he... and then the n7 team looks up from their respective points on the ground and see the crucible explode. Tali covers her mouth and falls to the ground. Liara looks away. James salutes. Alenko says: thank you shepard. Joker watches the Debree in space and EDI puts her hand on his shoulder. News reports of Asari, Taurian, Salarian and the rest of the races beginning rebuilding efforts.
- Destroy the Reapers, geth and Edi, but live (selfishness), ultimately Removing the chance of quarians living on their home world without suits, and continuing the cycle of destruction. Ending feels renegade, A wave of red energy literally shuts down the reapers, it has a few soldiers stepping on the corpses of reaper forces, cheering. News reports of Asari, Taurian, Salarian and the rest of the races beginning rebuilding efforts. Reports of the Geth fleets deactivating alongside the reapers. Quarians picking up dead geth on their homewold, disassembling them. Love interest barking orders for whatever reason in a badass way, Shepard gave his life for you bottomfeeders, we are going to make it count, get your asses moving. Joker finds EDI's corpse, drops to the ground and holds her. Garrus and Alenko Drinking to shepard, saying how he was a great guy and that they thought he was immortal. Ending is the part where It shows the remenants of the crucible and Shepard Inhales.
- Or do the ultimate evil and merge life forms By force. Making a monoculture, where everything is ordered and gray. The Citidel is still there, and Shepard becomes part of it, with the god child. You see members of shepards crew robotified. But civilisation restores itself at an alarming rate.
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