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[CuseGirl]

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

[Cigarette Smoking Man]

CuseGirl wrote...

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

Oh well.

Make it and sell it.

[jeweledleah]

CuseGirl wrote...

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

well.  they could always just admit that they now realize that their original intended ending didn't work out for the fans the way they thought it would.  and just like they gave the fans Tali and Garrus, Shadow Broker DLC, etc etc etc?  they are now giving fans the DLC with the ending that they hope will be more to our tastes.  not becasue they were withholding it, but rather becasue they apreciate their fans and wanted to give them more enjoyment.  like they did with every other piece of fanservice within ME2 and ME3.

simple, really. 

just requires for them to admit that they .. are not infallible.

[webhead921]

Hey Bioware,

Don't change the endings. They're ok.

[Cigarette Smoking Man]

jeweledleah wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

well.  they could always just admit that they now realize that their original intended ending didn't work out for the fans the way they thought it would.  and just like they gave the fans Tali and Garrus, Shadow Broker DLC, etc etc etc?  they are now giving fans the DLC with the ending that they hope will be more to our tastes.  not becasue they were withholding it, but rather becasue they apreciate their fans and wanted to give them more enjoyment.  like they did with every other piece of fanservice within ME2 and ME3.

simple, really. 

just requires for them to admit that they .. are not infallible.

This.

A million times this.

[Chrislo1990]

CuseGirl wrote...

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

Well Bioware brought this unto themselves. Their only salvation lies in fixing these ending with for instance the indoctrination theory as the original enging makes absolutely no sense to me. Think about it. In ME2 Arrival Dr. Amanda Kenson clearly states that wiping out a mass relay would result in an explosion strong enough to wipe out an entire star system, much like a supernova. This is canon!! Now in ME3 ending, the mass relays are destroyed regardless of the decision you make at the Citadel, which is totally unacceptable to me as a hardcore fans of the series I may add. As such, how in the world isn't every life form extinguished when the mass relays go off?

I really believe that Bioware rushed this game just to comply with Ea's ridicuous time tables and to target the casual player who more than likely would not mind such a short ending.. I would have preferred for ME3 to be delayed further so long as we get an ending that takes into account all of the decions a I have taken up to that point, whether I was paragon or renegade, whether I had a high enough EMS score and so on and so forth. I am so pissed off.

[Menagra]

Please make this a DLC --- also BW you should let us embed videos on your forums---would make the whole YOU MUST CLICK THIS LINK a lot less scary and spam looking.

http://www.youtube.c...teCxPhpXTPzPhg=

Modifié par infraredman, 28 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[Conor1320]

Indoctrination Theory 'nuff said. But really, there is so many pieces of evidence that supports the indoc. theory, and quite honestly I need something reasonable to believe in. Coming from BioWare I don't think this is an ending they desired, BioWare specializes heavily in storytelling, the last 10 minutes are pathetic, and if you apply the indoc. theory it will tell you how it is totally plausible. It would be the exact thing in terms of storytelling, BioWare would pursue.... the ultimate mind****!!! The supposed things they are working on for SP in April as DLC will hopefully bring proper closure to the trilogy.

[Chrislo1990]

The formula worked in Mass Effect 1 and 2. We had the option to emerge triumphant but in Mass Effect 3 we are forced to die no matter what we do. I just don't undestand why Bioware would do away with that. They really dropped the ball. I think they became overconfident in their product, overlooking that fact that long time Mass Effect fans would be even more attentive to the final installation as it would bring to light all the outcomes of the decisions we've made thus far.

I felt like my decisions has little weight to them after beating ME3, that and the overwheliing amount of sorrow I felt after losing a character I worked so damn hard in shaping. I thnk I deserve a truly satisfying ending with more significant variations, such as actually surviving and emerging triumphant. The endings as they stand right now are like a slap to face to me.

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 28 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[Marty McMort]

jeweledleah wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

The position Bioware is in is awful....if they come out with a DLC that actually gives us a legitimate ending, EVERYONE will realize they delibrately sold a game with NO ending and fully intended to sell us the ending (as if that makes sense). But if they don't somehow fix this joke of an ending, we'll still complain til the cows come home.

well.  they could always just admit that they now realize that their original intended ending didn't work out for the fans the way they thought it would.  and just like they gave the fans Tali and Garrus, Shadow Broker DLC, etc etc etc?  they are now giving fans the DLC with the ending that they hope will be more to our tastes.  not becasue they were withholding it, but rather becasue they apreciate their fans and wanted to give them more enjoyment.  like they did with every other piece of fanservice within ME2 and ME3.

simple, really. 

just requires for them to admit that they .. are not infallible.

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter. And to throw it out there, even as a broke college kid, I would be willing to pay for Ending DLC, I mean I payed 60 bucks for Halo 3:ODST when that came out, and that game was awful. If I did that, I could definitely justify paying 70 bucks for a masterpiece like ME3, even now I won't say that Mass Effect 3 isn't the best game I've played in a long time, even if the ending does sort of suck as is.

Modifié par Marty McMort, 28 mars 2012 - 05:23 .

[D.I.Y_Death]

I just want some real differences in the endings. I feel a bit ripped off knowing I have 2 discs with 1 disc and 2 missions of gameplay. There was room to make the endings unique.

[Chrislo1990]

Yeah. I mean I just don't know what going on with Bioware. Just the fact that they kept mentioning that they wanted to reach a larger audience during it's development precess, then later declaring kinect functionality and multiplayer really got me worrying about the quality ME3 would bring to the table. ME3 is a great game don't get me wrong, but all in all when it comes to the very core of it, idtdoes not beat ME1 and ME2. ME3 is a dumbed down version of its predecessors, and I had very strong feeling this would be case as announcements poured. Turns out I was right. Ughhh  

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 28 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[TheECP]

I absolutely loved the ending I got. I got the green ending and I couldn't be happier with how everything turned out. Shepard sacrificed his life for the greater good, there is no more conflict between organics and synthetics, Shepard is now a legend that Buzz Aldrin is telling young children in the future, and most importantly, Joker and EDI can now make organic synthetic hybrid babies. I win at Mass Effect, I feel that I had control over Shepard the entire trilogy and I decided to pick the best ending, instinctively.

[Menagra]

oh and this is what it feels like to talk to you guys sometimes

Modifié par infraredman, 28 mars 2012 - 05:32 .

[NCPokey]

 So, some additional thoughts a few days after finishing the game.

I obsessively played ME 1 and 2 and had numerous characters (male and female with different love interests and paragon and renegade) ready to play through ME 3. However, since playing through ME 3, I have had no desire to load up any of those other characters because I know it won't matter. All those thousands of choices were really for naught.

This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

[Chrislo1990]

NCPokey wrote...

 So, some additional thoughts a few days after finishing the game.

I obsessively played ME 1 and 2 and had numerous characters (male and female with different love interests and paragon and renegade) ready to play through ME 3. However, since playing through ME 3, I have had no desire to load up any of those other characters because I know it won't matter. All those thousands of choices were really for naught.

This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

Yes exactly!!! Couldn't agree with you more my friend. Bioware really really screwed up. They thought they could throw things at us and we would instantly like it just because it's Mass Effect. Ughhh. On the contrary, we would be much more demanding knowing  how incredible ME1 and 2 were.

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 28 mars 2012 - 05:40 .

[Sc2mashimaro]

 This, so much this: 

[cannabeastie]

If you don't work for Bioware/EA ignore this post. I'm just following up on one of my earlier posts.
you know what I want? one of those N7 hoodies with the stripe down the arm...
Whatever this announcement is that's coming out in April, it better be damn good, and better not involve me spending one god damn red cent on some DLC or unlocking some on disc content, or I swear to god neither Bioware nor EA will ever see another penny from me, and I will be even more pissed because I will have to wait to buy an N7 hoodie until I can find one in a thrift store or buy a used one online somewhere... You know you're wrong.

[GennadiosMxms]

NCPokey wrote...
This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

Really? You had some need to replay DAII? It had what seems like a much cruder implementation of canned ending ruining the whole narrative of ME3 syndrome.

I considered replaying DAII at one point, figured if I side entirely with the Templars the entire narrative would make just enough sense to be tolerable, and then I decided to go outside.

[NCPokey]

GennadiosMxms wrote...

NCPokey wrote...
This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

Really? You had some need to replay DAII? It had what seems like a much cruder implementation of canned ending ruining the whole narrative of ME3 syndrome.

I considered replaying DAII at one point, figured if I side entirely with the Templars the entire narrative would make just enough sense to be tolerable, and then I decided to go outside.

I did, yeah. I played through once with each character class, just for the hell of it. But you're right, that ending sucked too.

[jeweledleah]

GennadiosMxms wrote...

NCPokey wrote...
This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

Really? You had some need to replay DAII? It had what seems like a much cruder implementation of canned ending ruining the whole narrative of ME3 syndrome.

I considered replaying DAII at one point, figured if I side entirely with the Templars the entire narrative would make just enough sense to be tolerable, and then I decided to go outside.

well, DA2 at least, has 3 different conversation paths going for it, while ME3 has 1.5...ish  and as strange as it sounds, DA2's ending actualy have a bit more variance to it.. even though its a middle game and as such, had to converge into an ending that would work as a starting point for a final game (suicide mission for all its variables is essentialy the same mission)

ME3.. I've been playing it sporadicaly, to check out some of the differences in conversation, depending on who lived and who died and whom you bring with you on missions...  but I cannot see myself finishing it again, not unless the endings are reworked.

[Athla k4]

GennadiosMxms wrote...

NCPokey wrote...
This is the first BioWare where this has happened. I usually do at least a half-dozen playthroughs of BioWare games but I may not get back to ME 3 unless some DLC addresses the ending. Too bad, I didn't think this would have been my reaction to the end of my favorite series of games. Between this and Dragon Age 2, BioWare has me worried...

Really? You had some need to replay DAII? It had what seems like a much cruder implementation of canned ending ruining the whole narrative of ME3 syndrome.

I considered replaying DAII at one point, figured if I side entirely with the Templars the entire narrative would make just enough sense to be tolerable, and then I decided to go outside.

It mostly made sense, The main conflict was always mages and templers in the background and it snowballed until you had to pick a side.  Then you road off into the sunset with a horney pirate and your Love intrest. Not great but not bad.

[Chrislo1990]

Yeah I can't find the motivation ot replay the game knowing everything I've done iin the past two games was in vain. I die either way. I dont' emerge from the fight triumphantly.

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 28 mars 2012 - 06:07 .

[Phaelducan]

Or Bioware for the first time has done something completely unique with their "ending" in that it's all in Shep's head and nothing is resolved in the game.

Yeah, it's BS that it isn't on the disc that we all paid for, but if it's free DLC that actually ends the story I will chalk it up as one of the ballsiest and coolest things ever done from a game developer.

Was I pissed when I finished the game? Hell yes I was, and it almost ruined the game for me. Then I gave it a day, gave it some perspective, and read some other gamers opinions on the issue.

No way was that the end of the game, and no way was it not designed this way. If it was, and they literally had no plans to give us a real ending MONTHS before the game launched, then there is no rational explanation for how the rest of the game/series is written so well yet the end is so poor.

There is no rational way to justify the "whoops, Bioware just effed up" argument. It was planned, and they waited this long to generate tons more investment in what really happens after Harbinger attacks.

Flat out, if there isn't real closure, they will kill the franchise, and they would have known that going in. We all got played, and I'm fine with that.. as long as they do deliver the goods come DLC.

I predict it will be free as well, but that is equal parts optimism and belief that charging for an actual conclusion would be tantamount to lighting pre-orders for ME4 on fire.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I've bought my last Bioware game. However, if I'm right, then ME3 will stand as one of my top 5 games of all time, and mad props to the writers for being daring, creative, and creating the best "ending" I can recall to a game in recent memory.

[Theronyll Itholien]

webhead921 wrote...

Hey Bioware,

Don't change the endings. They're ok.

Science should do research on people like these: people that are willing to antagonize themselves just for the sake of being provocative and the delusion that they are "different"/"better" than the majority.

If you truly, and I mean TRULY think the ending is "ok" then I'm just gonna be so blunt as to claim that you didn't really give a **** in the first place.