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[STAG IRONHIDE]

Randy Woolley wrote...

Based upon the direction it is currenlty headed, they could have very well been wrong.

<_< this is some really lazy trolling, you should be ashamed.

[Omnike]

Randy Woolley wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

none of which was a lie.... No where was it a promise ether.....Again comprehend what you read.

Heads up, everyone!  The BioWare Defense Force has arrived!

Nope.. I'm neither paid nor endorsed by BW... I'm just getting a kick out of seeing how many people feel they purchased the right to demand input in to the game's ending.. You are a consumer.. You are not a creator.. That is  your station... Deal with it or go make your own game.

Hate to butt in, but the creators create a product for the consumer, tailored to the consumer's wants. If they didn't do so, then no one would purchase their product. If you anger millions of your fanbase with one of your products, and do nothing about it, then there will be a large percentage drop in sales for that product and a similar drop in the other products created by the creators. Consumers and Creators go hand in hand, what affects one affects the other.

There's a reason it's called Supply and Demand.

Or... How about this... People stop acting like children. Grow up. Be happy that they have the ability to live in an area where such games are possible and stop whining about every little thing they don't like and demand it be redone..

And then you shuck off reason and repeat yourself.. you aren't winning right now.

[MrAtomica]

Randy Woolley wrote...

I bolded the important part for you since you don't seem to catch the gist of why I said that.

That would imply that you were using sarcasm to debase your own argument, unless you were trying to pretend that you were arguing for changing the endings throughout the rest of this thread.

[improperdancing]

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

We purchased the game, therefore we reserve the right to complain to the game maker about things we didn't care for or promises that were made by the game maker that were not kept.

Say you purchased a car and the dealership told you before you signed the paperwork that it had cruise control.  Would you say that you don't have the right to demand input on the car's cruise control situation if you took it out on the road and found that the dealership lied to you?  Maybe you should go build your own car.

As a consumer, I demand that promises by the people that create the products I buy be kept.  If they're not, I will let them hear about it and do my best to influence other consumers not to buy the same product.  

I really don't get how this is a hard concept to understand.  BioWare made promises about Mass Effect 3 and was unable or unwilling to keep them.  As a result, they are getting slammed by their biggest fans for doing so, and I don't see how the fans don't have every right to demand that BioWare give them what was originally promised.

I don't really get why it's so hard for people to see how whiny they're being over a game..

Also.. Do you know what word "fan" is derived from? Because, it fits in this case.

I love how the people defending BioWare don't actually have any ground to stand on.  All you do is call us whiny or entitled without any substance to your arguments.  Funny how you completely failed to counter any of my very legitimate arguments and instead called me whiny and a fanatic.  

I also find it ironic that the people like you who are telling everyone to stop acting childish are in actuality acting the most childish.

[Randy Woolley]

STAG IRONHIDE wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

Millions of people commit crimes... That doesn't make them correct...

Now you're just trying to argue a point because you are desperate to troll. Go read what the Bioware staff said about the ending before the game came out and then come back.

No, I was simply stating that the number of people believing in something in no way alters the right/wrong or true/false of the situation.

If one million people believed that we evolved from potato chips, that wouldn't make them right.. It would make them idiots.

[Lord Irvine]

Randy Woolley wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

none of which was a lie.... No where was it a promise ether.....Again comprehend what you read.

Heads up, everyone!  The BioWare Defense Force has arrived!

Nope.. I'm neither paid nor endorsed by BW... I'm just getting a kick out of seeing how many people feel they purchased the right to demand input in to the game's ending.. You are a consumer.. You are not a creator.. That is  your station... Deal with it or go make your own game.

Hate to butt in, but the creators create a product for the consumer, tailored to the consumer's wants. If they didn't do so, then no one would purchase their product. If you anger millions of your fanbase with one of your products, and do nothing about it, then there will be a large percentage drop in sales for that product and a similar drop in the other products created by the creators. Consumers and Creators go hand in hand, what affects one affects the other.

There's a reason it's called Supply and Demand.

Or... How about this... People stop acting like children. Grow up. Be happy that they have the ability to live in an area where such games are possible and stop whining about every little thing they don't like and demand it be redone..

How they are acting is up to the observer's point of view. What some would find reasonable, others find ridiculous.

As for the other, you might as well expect everyone to throw money at third world countries just because the state of living is lower. But no, few do that.

Also, from what I've been reading, no one has whined about 'every little thing', merely the ending. Sure, I'm one of the people heavily upset by the endings and the lack of creativity in displaying, but I can admire the ideas behind the three choices, despite how they are displayed. Sure, I don't agree nor like them, but I can admire the attempt. But I'm just one customer. If millions agree, good for us. If something changes, yay for that. Nothing happens, then boo to it and we move on. There are other companies out there that I'll give my money to for a decent game. Sure, this isn't the end of the world, but it's a pity to see a great franchise I may have invested more in collapse into the rubble.

[Randy Woolley]

MrAtomica wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I bolded the important part for you since you don't seem to catch the gist of why I said that.

That would imply that you were using sarcasm to debase your own argument, unless you were trying to pretend that you were arguing for changing the endings throughout the rest of this thread.

I was playing the part of you... Guess mirroring doesn't really compute for you.

[akenn312]

I could understand saying people are being entitled and crying over spilled milk over a really good well thought out ending, but when I see people that liked the Mass Effect games say they are dissatisfied with the ending there is something wrong here with the story.

The character plot holes are very obvious the fact that your team disappears during the suicide run is bad enough, but I think the Catylist RGB choices just made it too much. What difference is there really? I even checked out the hint books on the supposed 16 ending differences and the endings are the same other than Earth gets destroyed if you don't have enough military assets in Renegade and there is no Sheppard breathing cutscene. Control and synergy are the same in synergy you get green wires, Joker and EDI cuddle instead of walking out and looking around in the control ending that's the only thing that changes between those two.

Here is a thought. Did fans demand changes to the Mass Effect ending or Mass Effect 2's ending? No because they were very good endings. Why would a majority of fans of Mass Effect pay $60+ dollars to play a Mass Effect 3 then try to tear it down for a very good ending?

That's Catylist logic to me.

How about this question?
Out of all the Mass Effect endings 1-3 which was the best, had the most variety of different outcomes and showed consequences for your in game choices in the ending. I vote 2 then 1 the ME 3 a distant 3rd.

You can accept the endings problems and like the game, but I don't think its fair to insult others just because they have an opinion too and want to voice it. Bioware asked for all feedback in this thread.

Modifié par akenn312, 29 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[Randy Woolley]

improperdancing wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

We purchased the game, therefore we reserve the right to complain to the game maker about things we didn't care for or promises that were made by the game maker that were not kept.

Say you purchased a car and the dealership told you before you signed the paperwork that it had cruise control.  Would you say that you don't have the right to demand input on the car's cruise control situation if you took it out on the road and found that the dealership lied to you?  Maybe you should go build your own car.

As a consumer, I demand that promises by the people that create the products I buy be kept.  If they're not, I will let them hear about it and do my best to influence other consumers not to buy the same product.  

I really don't get how this is a hard concept to understand.  BioWare made promises about Mass Effect 3 and was unable or unwilling to keep them.  As a result, they are getting slammed by their biggest fans for doing so, and I don't see how the fans don't have every right to demand that BioWare give them what was originally promised.

I don't really get why it's so hard for people to see how whiny they're being over a game..

Also.. Do you know what word "fan" is derived from? Because, it fits in this case.

I love how the people defending BioWare don't actually have any ground to stand on.  All you do is call us whiny or entitled without any substance to your arguments.  Funny how you completely failed to counter any of my very legitimate arguments and instead called me whiny and a fanatic.  

I also find it ironic that the people like you who are telling everyone to stop acting childish are in actuality acting the most childish.

Oh no.. Whatever will I do...  I don't counter any of your points because you're not worthy of the time and effort for that... I'm simply acting as most of you do.. I'm sorry  you don't like it, because it's how you look to the rest of the world..

I just thought I'd show you a reflection.. Carry on then!

You all are making for some humorous side comments on other news sites and forums...

I guess I should really be thanking, not condeming..

Modifié par Randy Woolley, 29 mars 2012 - 07:17 .

[MrAtomica]

Randy Woolley wrote...

MrAtomica wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I bolded the important part for you since you don't seem to catch the gist of why I said that.

That would imply that you were using sarcasm to debase your own argument, unless you were trying to pretend that you were arguing for changing the endings throughout the rest of this thread.

I was playing the part of you... Guess mirroring doesn't really compute for you.

Except that the sarcastic "argument" you were making was actually protesting against doing anything to the endings. "Why should you be able to change our endings?"

If the entire post after you mentioned "putting on your entitlement outfit" was, in fact, sarcastic, then you were actually working against yourself.

This is fun!

[jeweledleah]

Randy Woolley wrote...

GlennWH wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...


and I'm sorry, but unless fans bodily kidnap Mass Effect writing team, break everyone's legs and then hold them hostage untill they rewrite the ending - comparisons to mysery are incredibly insulting.  we're doing NOTHING of the sort.  we're merely telling them what it would take to KEEP us as costumers.  if Kathy Bates acted the way fans do, at most she'd tell the writer (in writing)  that if he doesn't change the ending, she'd never buy another one of his books again.

This.

Bioware is under no obligation to change the ending.

I am under no obligation to give them my money.

Hey.. That sounds familiar.. Oh, yeah, that's right.. I said that pages back when I brought up Misery and how the "fans" were treating this ending..  Glad to see I'm not alone.

right.  becasue all the people who bought Mass Effect 3 had a chance to play through the entire game to see if they like it before buying it, right?

 oh.  wait.

no.  we didn't.  we had to pay first, based on promises that were made to us.  promises that were broken.  sure we can walk away.  but we apreciate bioware too much to just give up on them that easily.  you liked the endings?  good for you. we didn't.  and we paid the same money (or more) as you did.  and YOu were the one being insulting.  claiming that fans are psychotic mutilators.  so shoosh.

[Randy Woolley]

MrAtomica wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

MrAtomica wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I bolded the important part for you since you don't seem to catch the gist of why I said that.

That would imply that you were using sarcasm to debase your own argument, unless you were trying to pretend that you were arguing for changing the endings throughout the rest of this thread.

I was playing the part of you... Guess mirroring doesn't really compute for you.

Except that the sarcastic "argument" you were making was actually protesting against doing anything to the endings. "Why should you be able to change our endings?"

If the entire post after you mentioned "putting on your entitlement outfit" was, in fact, sarcastic, then you were actually working against yourself.

This is fun!

It is fun, isn't it... :innocent:

[improperdancing]

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

We purchased the game, therefore we reserve the right to complain to the game maker about things we didn't care for or promises that were made by the game maker that were not kept.

Say you purchased a car and the dealership told you before you signed the paperwork that it had cruise control.  Would you say that you don't have the right to demand input on the car's cruise control situation if you took it out on the road and found that the dealership lied to you?  Maybe you should go build your own car.

As a consumer, I demand that promises by the people that create the products I buy be kept.  If they're not, I will let them hear about it and do my best to influence other consumers not to buy the same product.  

I really don't get how this is a hard concept to understand.  BioWare made promises about Mass Effect 3 and was unable or unwilling to keep them.  As a result, they are getting slammed by their biggest fans for doing so, and I don't see how the fans don't have every right to demand that BioWare give them what was originally promised.

I don't really get why it's so hard for people to see how whiny they're being over a game..

Also.. Do you know what word "fan" is derived from? Because, it fits in this case.

I love how the people defending BioWare don't actually have any ground to stand on.  All you do is call us whiny or entitled without any substance to your arguments.  Funny how you completely failed to counter any of my very legitimate arguments and instead called me whiny and a fanatic.  

I also find it ironic that the people like you who are telling everyone to stop acting childish are in actuality acting the most childish.

Oh no.. Whatever will I do...  I don't counter any of your points because you're not worthy of the time and effort for that... I'm simply acting as most of you do.. I'm sorry  you don't like it, because it's how you look to the rest of the world..

I just thought I'd show you a reflection.. Carry on then!

Please.  Most of us are writing coherent, well-thought-out points.  You're acting like a boring troll.

[LoadedMoon]

 An artists integrity is based on thier collective work. If a painter makes a crap piece then it is never seen again and they base their next piece off of what people liked and disliked. If an artist kept making the same crap paintings and called it their artistic integrity they'd be a poor artist. Mow Im not saying that ME3 is a crap piece it is like what EVERYONE is saying, 99% awsome with a crap ending. Games unlike the other arst has evolved with technology. The artists can actually make changes to a game and make sure everyone( with internet access that is ) can get it, and later on they can release a new hard disc with the changes preinstalled. With that said they dont have to get rid of all of the ending they only need to re-purpose it, use it as a transition into a completely new ending that makes sense with the rest of the games, and reflects on our choices, and offers us closure on ALL the characters. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT MAKE SOME STUPID 5 MINUTE NARRATIVE COMIC THAT ONLY EXPLAIN THE ALREADY EXISTING ENDING.

[MrAtomica]

Randy Woolley wrote...

It is fun, isn't it... :innocent:

More fun than Mass Effect 3's ending(s).....

BA ZING

I should go. Carry on.

Modifié par MrAtomica, 29 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[darkway1]

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

none of which was a lie.... No where was it a promise ether.....Again comprehend what you read.

Heads up, everyone!  The BioWare Defense Force has arrived!

Nope.. I'm neither paid nor endorsed by BW... I'm just getting a kick out of seeing how many people feel they purchased the right to demand input in to the game's ending.. You are a consumer.. You are not a creator.. That is  your station... Deal with it or go make your own game.

We purchased the game, therefore we reserve the right to complain to the game maker about things we didn't care for or promises that were made by the game maker that were not kept.

Say you purchased a car and the dealership told you before you signed the paperwork that it had cruise control.  Would you say that you don't have the right to demand input on the car's cruise control situation if you took it out on the road and found that the dealership lied to you?  Maybe you should go build your own car.

As a consumer, I demand that promises by the people that create the products I buy be kept.  If they're not, I will let them hear about it and do my best to influence other consumers not to buy the same product.  

I really don't get how this is a hard concept to understand.  BioWare made promises about Mass Effect 3 and was unable or unwilling to keep them.  As a result, they are getting slammed by their biggest fans for doing so, and I don't see how the fans don't have every right to demand that BioWare give them what was originally promised.

I don't really get why it's so hard for people to see how whiny they're being over a game..

Also.. Do you know what word "fan" is derived from? Because, it fits in this case.

It's all very simple,Bioware has produced a product to sell,people bought it and have expressed that they did not like the ending,in fact a hell of a lot of people have expresed that they are not happy with the ending.

So the ball is in Bioware's court,if they want people to continue to invest in Mass Effect via DLC etc then Bioware needs to address what people want........does not matter about right or wrong,it's about making money......sadly. 

[STAG IRONHIDE]

Randy Woolley wrote...

So, (puts on entitlement outfit), why should I have to sacrifice an ending just because others don't like it? Why does that make sense... So, because you all didn't like it, I and others like me are supposed to give up our endings for you? That not only makes you all entitlment challenged, it also makes you elitists and selfish for thinking you have the right to take from us because you want.

Okay, I'm glad you liked the ending but you are being really hostile and making assumptions. Some of us don't even want a new ending, this thread is called "Yes, we are listening" so we are discussing why we were displeased with the ending to the game, okay? Many people feel that it was out of place, but that DOES NOT mean that everyone here wants to ruin the ending you enjoyed with a Retcon. I'd rather them just leave it alone, so that is where you and I agree.

Obviously the fact that this thread exists shows that there are people other than you who have different opinions about the ending. You have theright to be angry, because the existence of this thread pretty much shows the ending you enjoyed will be undone with a Retcon. And while I won't be getting the DLC if they release it, if you enjoyed the ending then just pass on getting the DLC.

[garytwine]

Randy Woolley wrote...

STAG IRONHIDE wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

Millions of people commit crimes... That doesn't make them correct...

Now you're just trying to argue a point because you are desperate to troll. Go read what the Bioware staff said about the ending before the game came out and then come back.

No, I was simply stating that the number of people believing in something in no way alters the right/wrong or true/false of the situation.

If one million people believed that we evolved from potato chips, that wouldn't make them right.. It would make them idiots.

So... using your own logic here. If EA sell 3 million copies of Mass Effect 3 and only 100,000 people actually complain about that ending being crap, then quite possibly the other 2.9 million people are idiots whilst the other 100,000 are quite astute and correct. Congratulations!

Modifié par garytwine, 29 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[rizuno]

It was beautiful and amazing and wonderful and FUN and emotional and I wanted to keep playing it for the rest of my life and then I reached the ending and now I can't even LOOK AT MY PRETTY FEMSHEP COVER ANYMORE.

...Yay, run-on sentence.

Also ALL of my favorite moments (Mars reunion with Kaiden, Thresher Maw-ing a Reaper, Talking with a Female Krogan) were trumped by the ending, the worst moment I have ever experienced in a video game.
And I PLAYED Dragon Age II and I LIKED it. I can freaking take the punishment...until this.

[ryoldschool]

Omnike wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
 You need to re read it. It wasnt a promise it was a concept. He was pretty clear about it. He is not to blame for you problems comprahending.

Lol


Official Mass Effect Website 
http://masseffect.com/about/story/ 

“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any 
other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience 
and outcome.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://popwatch.ew.c........c-walters/ 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass 
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://business.fina...-all-audiences/ 

“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think 
one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are 
optimal for different people “ 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.computera...missing-in-me2/ 

“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as 
much as we are anyway.” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/ 

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How 
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and 
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t 
say any more than that…” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry 

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the 
architect of what happens." 

“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless 
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide 
some answers to these people.” 

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being 
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they 
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was 
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you 
didn't make” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...s-effect-3.aspx 

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the 
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in 
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different 
based on what you would do in those situations.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/ 

“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get 
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.” 

“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the 
lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers, 
being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an 
end.” 

Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?” 
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with 
the fans. We use a lot of feedback.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2 

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that 
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?” 
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to 
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about 
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is 
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot 
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many 
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that 
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, 
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got 
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and 
variety in them.” 

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player 
decide what your story  

Wow, those quote look pretty silly now that we have seen the result.

[Zypxtyl]

STAG IRONHIDE wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...


If you can't see the difference, then I can't help you.

Did you even watch the video or playthrough the different endings? There's about 5-20 seconds worth of difference in each ending. Try harder next time.

5-20 second differences huh? Check this out...

There's someone at the door.
There's someone at the door?
There's someone at the door!

Can you see the differences? Yes, they are there. Each changes the tone/inflection of the sentence. But all communicate the same idea. This is about meaningful differences, not technical differences. The choices each Shepard made all lead to 3 endings that are so similar there is no desire to replay the game to get a different ending. I would aruge that means there is no functional difference between them and that is not what Bioware advertised. Therefore I bought the game under false pretenses. And I'm not happy about that.

[luci90]

Huh.

I just read about klencory.

Shame they didn't expand on this.

Perhaps it could have made the whole starchild thing make a bit more sense.

[garytwine]

ryoldschool wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
 You need to re read it. It wasnt a promise it was a concept. He was pretty clear about it. He is not to blame for you problems comprahending.

Lol


Official Mass Effect Website 
http://masseffect.com/about/story/ 

“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any 
other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience 
and outcome.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://popwatch.ew.c........c-walters/ 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass 
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://business.fina...-all-audiences/ 

“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think 
one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are 
optimal for different people “ 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.computera...missing-in-me2/ 

“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as 
much as we are anyway.” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/ 

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How 
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and 
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t 
say any more than that…” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry 

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the 
architect of what happens." 

“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless 
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide 
some answers to these people.” 

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being 
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they 
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was 
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you 
didn't make” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...s-effect-3.aspx 

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the 
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in 
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different 
based on what you would do in those situations.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/ 

“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get 
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.” 

“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the 
lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers, 
being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an 
end.” 

Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?” 
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with 
the fans. We use a lot of feedback.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2 

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that 
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?” 
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to 
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about 
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is 
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot 
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many 
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that 
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, 
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got 
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and 
variety in them.” 

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player 
decide what your story  

Wow, those quote look pretty silly now that we have seen the result.

Yup, maybe we could get a big banner with them printed on to hang outside of Bioware HQ.

[improperdancing]

ryoldschool wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
 You need to re read it. It wasnt a promise it was a concept. He was pretty clear about it. He is not to blame for you problems comprahending.

Lol


Official Mass Effect Website 
http://masseffect.com/about/story/ 

“Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any 
other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience 
and outcome.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://popwatch.ew.c........c-walters/ 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass 
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

Interview with Mac Walters (Lead Writer) 
http://business.fina...-all-audiences/ 

“I’m always leery of saying there are 'optimal' endings, because I think 
one of the things we do try to do is make different endings that are 
optimal for different people “ 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.computera...missing-in-me2/ 

“And, to be honest, you [the fans] are crafting your Mass Effect story as 
much as we are anyway.” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.360magazi...ferent-endings/ 

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How 
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and 
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t 
say any more than that…” 

Interview with Mike Gamble (Associate Producer) 
http://www.eurogamer...me-people-angry 

“Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the 
architect of what happens." 

“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless 
of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide 
some answers to these people.” 

“Because a lot of these plot threads are concluding and because it's being 
brought to a finale, since you were a part of architecting how they 
got to how they were, you will definitely sense how they close was 
because of the decisions you made and because of the decisions you 
didn't make” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...s-effect-3.aspx 

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the 
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in 
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different 
based on what you would do in those situations.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/ 

“Fans want to make sure that they see things resolved, they want to get 
some closure, a great ending. I think they’re going to get that.” 

“Mass Effect 3 is all about answering all the biggest questions in the 
lore, learning about the mysteries and the Protheans and the Reapers, 
being able to decide for yourself how all of these things come to an 
end.” 

Interviewer: “So are you guys the creators or the stewards of the franchise?” 
Hudson: “Um… You know, at this point, I think we’re co-creators with 
the fans. We use a lot of feedback.” 

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director) 
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2 

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that 
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?” 
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to 
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about 
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is 
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot 
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many 
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that 
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, 
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got 
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and 
variety in them.” 

“We have a rule in our franchise that there is no canon. You as a player 
decide what your story  

Wow, those quote look pretty silly now that we have seen the result.

Yeah, I made this thread about the whole ordeal:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10409105/1

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Any chance Bioware want to post to take part in the discussion they asked for? Plenty of constructive arguements from why the endings aren't up to scratch.