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[AndroLeonidas]

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?

That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER that a whole starship's fleet with a complete mass accelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

Actually... the reaper on Tuchanka is only a Destroyer and not a full Reaper. It is only 160 meters tall as opposed to 2 kilometers for capital ships. So the mother of all Thresher Maws taking down a Reaper destroyer is not so far fetched when you consider the battle scene and she is almost as big as the Destroyer.

[robertm2]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?

That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER that a whole starship's fleet with a complete mass accelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

Actually... the reaper on Tuchanka is only a Destroyer and not a full Reaper. It is only 160 meters tall as opposed to 2 kilometers for capital ships. So the mother of all Thresher Maws taking down a Reaper destroyer is not so far fetched when you consider the battle scene and she is almost as big as the Destroyer.

new dlc fight the mother of all thresher maws with a mako! and the only ending you get is the mako being eaten. that would give the people on bsn a real reason to complain instead of just whining about an ending that doesnt need fixing.

[AeonOfTime]

I have been in the Mass Effect adventure from the start, and loved the experience. One could say that I am a gaming veteran, having started to play on a C64 and never stopped playing since then. Mass Effect was a revolution in my book, and all three instalments have manged to impress me and hook me to the story.

Playing through all three games has also created a much stronger bond to the characters in the game than I realized. That level of storytelling is something I have not experienced in any other game. None of the other immersive RPGs I have played managed to crawl under my skin the way Shepard's life has.

It's hard to describe how I felt when my (female) Shepard woke from the blast in front of the beacon. The instant I saw in which shape she was, I knew this would not end well. However, I have to say that this part was also pure genius, with Shepard barely holding that gun up. With a knot of dread in my stomach I went on, clinging to the hope that she could still survive this, clinging to the hope that the writers could not possibly have gone the cliché way of killing the hero at the end.

Except that they did. The moment I met the kid, I knew it. I chose to give organics a chance and destroyed the reapers - but what a hollow victory that was! Everyone single one of the characters I loved gone... crowned by a panicked Joker trying to save the Normandy. It failed to feel as meaningful as I am sure it was intended.

It took me completely by surprise to be as shaken as I was when I turned off the PC after the stargazer scene. Never before has a game touched me that way, and I am more than a little mad at an ending that could have made me cry for joy instead of frustration and grief.

I know you thought this all through very carefully, but creating something as momentous as this game also gives you the responsibility to let people really decide how they want to end it. What's wrong with a storybook ending? It's a game for goodness' sake, if I want dramatics I have real life and crappy hollywood movies with similar endings. I want a game to make me feel good and in control, and damn it, Shepard deserved it so many times over. I liked that the game was very serious, but it's not a game's role to be serious until the bitter end.

If you are still listening after 491 pages of posts, this is my wish:

PLEASE give me a happy ending, this is haunting me!


--
As for my favorite moments:
- The thresher maw vs Reaper
- Mordin curing the Genophage
- EDI having a body, Joker dancing
- The crippled fight and walk at the end
- The scene with Anderson at the end

[AndroLeonidas]

robertm2 wrote...

AndroLeonidas wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?

That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER that a whole starship's fleet with a complete mass accelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

Actually... the reaper on Tuchanka is only a Destroyer and not a full Reaper. It is only 160 meters tall as opposed to 2 kilometers for capital ships. So the mother of all Thresher Maws taking down a Reaper destroyer is not so far fetched when you consider the battle scene and she is almost as big as the Destroyer.

new dlc fight the mother of all thresher maws with a mako! and the only ending you get is the mako being eaten. that would give the people on bsn a real reason to complain instead of just whining about an ending that doesnt need fixing.

Every reason given for having a new ending is legitimate. How they are expressed may be wrong... but they are sound reasons. In your opinion the ending is fine... all the more power to you. I think a vast majority were expecting something more fulfilling given the hours we put into the game and its characters and the story itself.

[SteJo6sic6]

Loved the game right up until the last 10 minutes. The ending just felt so anti-climatic. All those choices you made up until that point meant nothing. At least that's how I feel.

As for my fav moments there are so many great moments that it's hard to choose. Off the top of my head finding out how the Geth/Quarian war started was cool. Mordin sacrificing himself to cure the genophage was amazing. That Thresher Maw taking down a Reaper was amazing as well.

[JackLaVaporiera]

J.dot wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?

That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER that a whole starship's fleet with a complete mass accelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

The reaper that kalros fights is a destroyer class reaper, they only stand 160 meters tall. Compared to sovereign, who was something like 2 kilometers tall, it was a lot smaller. That's why it works :happy:

Oh, I see, a softer, 2° class, "junk reaper" so more handleable...but nonetheless not even scratched by the turian flotilla's mass accelerator weapons...

"If you don't take care on where you fire a mass accelerator weapon one day or another you can ruin the day to someone somewhere in the universe..." doesn't reminds you something ?

However that's not the point, this, after all, is a thing I can buy, is the ending that leaves me speechless...

Modifié par JackLaVaporiera, 30 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[superantwan]

Mass effect 3 ending was deleted by "Illusive Man"

[Theronyll Itholien]

J.dot wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?
That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER completemassaccelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

The reaper that kalros fights is a destroyer class reaper, they only stand 160 meters tall. Compared to sovereign, who was something like 2 kilometers tall, it was a lot smaller. That's why it works :happy:

Exactly. How you could've missed that giant detail -- granted to you through logic thinking -- is beyond me.

Keeps the coherence completely intact, you must agree. Do you?

[JackLaVaporiera]

robertm2 wrote...

new dlc fight the mother of all thresher maws with a mako! and the only ending you get is the mako being eaten. that would give the people on bsn a real reason to complain instead of just whining about an ending that doesnt need fixing.

You're right. The actual one is the perfect ending not only for a game but even for a saga fan base inclusive.

A perfect cool-down to reach the perfect mood and say "go to hell you and your games".

[H4nniba11]

My favorite moments:
-Every moment with Liara
-Grunt walking alive out of Rachni lair (this had huge impact on me since I thought he was going to die)
-Curing the Genophage (especially the Wrex's facial expression)
-Tali drunk (never romanced her but I consider her as a friend to my Shep and it was nice to see her drunk)
-Walking into Garrus and Tali (priceless)
-Helping Edi to become free thinking individual.
-Bottle shooting with Garrus
-Konrad jumping in front of a bullet
And I'm aware that this has been said hundreds of times over already but give us chance to survive and retire with our Li.

[Theronyll Itholien]

I see you already replied to him. The forum is smartphone unfriendly so I'll just at to it this way:

The reaper had shields up against mass accelarated weapons. Not for brute force like a giant thresher maw. But even if that's not good enough an argument, which maybe it indeed isn't, don't forget Kalros basically burried the destroyer alive, crushing the thing in the process.

But yes, it's the ending indeed that completely destroys narrative coherence. The rest of the game has its little contradictions, but what movie/book/game of such proportions doesn't.

[JackLaVaporiera]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

J.dot wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

JackLaVaporiera wrote...

Yep this is "coherence" a thresher maw I put R.I.P in ME1 with 5/6 mako main gun rounds that blows a REAPER. Gimme a break.

Have you played the game, or are you just making a fool out of yourself?
That was not just a thresher maw. It was the mother of all thresher maws: KALROS! Hooozah!!

Yep, the mother of all tresher-maws, for how big it could be we are talking about a REAPER completemassaccelerator weapons collection find hard to scratch, I repeat myself, gimme a break.

The reaper that kalros fights is a destroyer class reaper, they only stand 160 meters tall. Compared to sovereign, who was something like 2 kilometers tall, it was a lot smaller. That's why it works :happy:

Exactly. How you could've missed that giant detail -- granted to you through logic thinking -- is beyond me.

Keeps the coherence completely intact, you must agree. Do you?

Ahemm..right two post back. 

However maybe that destroyer reaper just had a deep wish to death and lowered it's shields....

[JackLaVaporiera]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

I see you already replied to him. The forum is smartphone unfriendly so I'll just at to it this way:

The reaper had shields up against mass accelarated weapons. Not for brute force like a giant thresher maw. But even if that's not good enough an argument, which maybe it indeed isn't, don't forget Kalros basically burried the destroyer alive, crushing the thing in the process.

But yes, it's the ending indeed that completely destroys narrative coherence. The rest of the game has its little contradictions, but what movie/book/game of such proportions doesn't.

I agree, after all even mako's shields weren't unable to hold a regular thresher maw's spit.

But a reaper is a reaper, small or big ....however...

After all the very incoherence blast is the ending, I'd rather the one in which the fleet should have bombed the reapers with condoms filled with tresher maw's gastric fluids...

[Wildecker]

The endings (with the exception of the Normandy part) could well have been the most memorable moments, if they had been a little bit more ... emotional?

Like Shepard heading for the red conduit, snarling "Screw inevitable!" before blasting away.

Or Shepard heading for the blue with tears in his or her eyes and a final "I'm so sorry, $LoveInterest" before surrendering to the upload process.

And of cause I'd have much preferred a Green ending where Shepard (having brokered a peace between the Geth and the Quarians despite the Destroyer's "The battle for Rannoch disproves your assertion.") argues that right out there, created and creators fight side by side for a chance to build a shared future against the ultimate fatalism of the cycles and that we have earned the right to be judged for what we actually did, not for what countless others failed to accomplish millions of years ago. "Hang around, Reapers, if you must. Observe, if you wish. But don't just crush another set of civilisations because you always did it this way. Because you're NOT omniscient."
And then ... once the catalyst sees the light at the end of this tunnel ... I want to go home, unstrap my body armor and hug my very special person.
Did any of you folks ever play "Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom", where the fate of the Confederacy (and of Col. Blair, of cause) is decided in front of the Terran Senate when you give Admiral Tolwyn just enough rhetorical rope to talk himself into trouble?

Modifié par Wildecker, 30 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[Lethlis]

Please, for the love of all that is holy, release the full ending with anderson and shepard. Already recorded, heard the video. Please put it in the game, I know I would run out of tissues and have sore eyes. I already do with just the sound.


Also please make indoctrination theory kanon, it blew my mind

Modifié par Lethlis, 30 mars 2012 - 10:08 .

[Krossbolt]

Okay, just finished the game 5 minutes ago. It was great.

I was really worried about it going to be a major let down but it wasn't.

What the hell ppl?

I can't believe the crap that has been posted about "we must have alternative endings".

As far as I am concerned Bioware has met the mark again and has nothing to fix and nothing to be ashamed of.

[Hexley UK]

Krossbolt wrote...

Okay, just finished the game 5 minutes ago. It was great.

I was really worried about it going to be a major let down but it wasn't.

What the hell ppl?

I can't believe the crap that has been posted about "we must have alternative endings".

As far as I am concerned Bioware has met the mark again and has nothing to fix and nothing to be ashamed of.

Wait a day...really think about it and then come back and tell us if you feel the same.....seriously..the more you think about it the worse it gets.

[AndroLeonidas]

Krossbolt wrote...

Okay, just finished the game 5 minutes ago. It was great.

I was really worried about it going to be a major let down but it wasn't.

What the hell ppl?

I can't believe the crap that has been posted about "we must have alternative endings".

As far as I am concerned Bioware has met the mark again and has nothing to fix and nothing to be ashamed of.

Your opinion is welcome and appreciated. However... a vast amount of us do not agree and that is our opinion.

[markdienekes]

So anyone else complaining about the illogical bit with the control choice ending where my two comrades I chose to take down to the battle in London, and after Shepard being wounded before getting to the beam, the comrades disappear - once the control choice is hit, they are next suddenly on the Normandy... without any logical reason for being there... getting cuaght in a Mass Relay blast. Didn't the Relays go off pretty much the instant Shepard controlled the reapers? So what the hell are Tali and Liara doing on the ship? This is really bugging me... I can't make heads or tails of it...

Modifié par markdienekes, 30 mars 2012 - 11:01 .

[Darsig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2532c7cRVAAAAAAAAAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2532c7cRVAAAAAAAAAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2532c7cRVAAAAAAAAAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E&feature=g-vrec&context=G2532c7cRVAAAAAAAAAQ

[JamesS.]

Dear Bioware

First of all thank you for a wonderful game, I loved almost everything.

The things I didn't like was:

Of course the ending, it has all been covered here so I won't get into why.

I felt that through out the game that Liara got more attention than Kaidan, which I find kinda unfair towards STRAIGHT females as myself. I like Liara as a character and I always bring her on with me on the missions but since ME1 I romanced Kaidan so he was with me from the beginning and there for he deserved as much attention as Liara but the focus was on her and just because us straight females don't post so much on the forums, it doesn't mean that we don't prefer Kaidan, even though I know Liara is very popular. But even the "From Ashes DLC" was focused on her when I was forced to bring her with me. The character boards for Kaidan clearly shows how many people prefer him, please read those. Other than that, I liked the way you deepened the bond with Kaidan, it was well done. More consequences of cheating as stated before release would have been nice...

Another thing is the ems... I have tried and tried but have not succeeded in getting enough ems without mp, this is not fair either, it shouldn't be THAT hard. I forced myself to play mp so I could get the "Shephard lives ending" but because I wasn't good enough, everyone good mad at me, so now I have absolutely zero chance of getting the good ending. PLEASE fix this soon.

[Versidious]

Krossbolt wrote...

Okay, just finished the game 5 minutes ago. It was great.

I was really worried about it going to be a major let down but it wasn't.

What the hell ppl?

I can't believe the crap that has been posted about "we must have alternative endings".

As far as I am concerned Bioware has met the mark again and has nothing to fix and nothing to be ashamed of.

Why is your love of the endings any more important than the majority's hatred? The reasons for the complaints have been listed many a time, usually highly civilly. In my opinion, they're perfectly reasonable. Read them, argue with them if you must, but don't just dismiss it as crap. I'm assuming if you have just found out about what the ending was five minutes past, you've not thought about it as much as people who found out what it was two or three weeks ago. So, read the objections (Especially the huge plot holes), think about it a little more, then tell me you still think Bioware 'hit the mark'.

[Archonsg]

1) Blowing up Mass Relays with no repercussions.
2) (related to above) energy shock wave of blown Mass Relays bring down the Normandy. Make up your mind's, does the shockwave have kinetic energy transfer or not.

If yes, Why exploding Mass Relays = Dead Galaxy

If no, please explain how shockwave ripped the Normandy's engines from its mounts.

3) How is it that the two squadmates, one of whom happens to be my love interest can somehow leave Shepard behind, not have a single scratch on them, be on the Normandy, running away from battle and obviously already jumpped out of Earth Alliance space all on a matter of minutes?

4) The Citadel was brought to Earth orbit. So why when the Mass Relay explosion sequence began, it shows the first explosion, which happens to be Earth's Charon Relay as the Citadel's original relay is in a dense nebulae cloud, and from the cut scenes this was not the case, as starting from Inner Council space and not Earth Alliance space?

Everything indicates that the ending we got was slapped on and not even remotely thought out. Or some EA bigwig's kid jumped in and insisted "his" ending be the one. As long as it has explosions.

[JamesS.]

Oh and I forgot to say that I thought it was really strange that Kaidan my LI didn't care if I lived or died... Don't know if it was LI specific or not but I noticed on the missions that he was often very worried about my health by telling me to watch out or asking me if I was okay, so why did he suddenly in the ending not care if I was alive or not? And why did he ran away with Joker instead of looking for me?

Modifié par Enigma1322, 30 mars 2012 - 12:14 .

[SekigaharaM]

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game