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[Hexley UK]

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Source for the 90% claim?

[improperdancing]

Hexley UK wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Source for the 90% claim?

He has none.  If anything, it's starting to look more like the opposite is true.

[Hexley UK]

improperdancing wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Source for the 90% claim?

He has none.  If anything, it's starting to look more like the opposite is true.

Yea I know, just enjoy calling people out on their dubious "Facts" and making them squirm.

[Theronyll Itholien]

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

How freaking selfish are you, SekigaharaM? There are people seriously enjoying life a little bit less because of how crappy the ending is, and because you somehow like it... you want Bioware not to change it? If you like the ending already, you have nothing to lose. I suggest you don't download the possible DLC ending in the future. But I'm pretty certain you will, anyway. Why? Because a day from now, maybe two, you'll wake up realizing the only thing that made you think the ending was good was the sentimental music. Been there.

Modifié par Theronyll Itholien, 30 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[markdienekes]

Archonsg wrote...

1) Blowing up Mass Relays with no repercussions.
2) (related to above) energy shock wave of blown Mass Relays bring down the Normandy. Make up your mind's, does the shockwave have kinetic energy transfer or not.

If yes, Why exploding Mass Relays = Dead Galaxy

If no, please explain how shockwave ripped the Normandy's engines from its mounts.

3) How is it that the two squadmates, one of whom happens to be my love interest can somehow leave Shepard behind, not have a single scratch on them, be on the Normandy, running away from battle and obviously already jumpped out of Earth Alliance space all on a matter of minutes?

4) The Citadel was brought to Earth orbit. So why when the Mass Relay explosion sequence began, it shows the first explosion, which happens to be Earth's Charon Relay as the Citadel's original relay is in a dense nebulae cloud, and from the cut scenes this was not the case, as starting from Inner Council space and not Earth Alliance space?

Everything indicates that the ending we got was slapped on and not even remotely thought out. Or some EA bigwig's kid jumped in and insisted "his" ending be the one. As long as it has explosions.

This is exactly my problem, how people dismiss this and defend it, seriously thinking the ending is good is beyond me!

[Versidious]

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

How freaking selfish are you, SekigaharaM? There are people seriously enjoying life a little bit less because of how crappy the ending is, and because you somehow like it... you want Bioware not to change it? If you like the ending already, you have nothing to lose. I suggest you don't download the possible DLC ending in the future. But I'm pretty certain you will, anyway. Why? Because a day from now, maybe two, you'll wake up realizing the only thing that made you think the ending was good was the sentimental music. Been there.

Well, no more selfish than us anti-enders, perhaps, if some *are* happy with the ending...

What bothers me is that there are three types of people who liked the ending:
People who have only just finished it.
People who have only *just* finished it.
People who have only just finished it!

Most of them haven't read people's objections to it, and talk about 'some weird reason', 'entitlement', or 'immaturity', as opposed to 'I disagree with your issues with the plot.' or 'I think you are being unreasonable in your dismissal of their themes and reasoning, and here's why...', and this stops them being a useful, constructive part of any discussion.

[Griever2112]

Randy Woolley wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I see most everyone still has entitlement issues... I thought the endings were just fine and I honestly hope that Bioware doesn't listen to a bunch of whiners and change.. I really think a lot of you need to get out of the house more often.. It's just a game people..

You're obviously easily pleased then. I guess you must really enjoy Uve Boll movies as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Bioware had hired him to write ME3's ending.

No, I'm just not under the misundestanding that I am ENTITLED to a game ending because I say so.. It's a product... You don't like it.. Don't buy it... Simple as that..

While I do not feel I am "entitled" to a game ending. I along with at least the reasonable fans who are displeased with the ending, are voicing critisim and opinions on what we thought. People demanding the ending changed are annoying, but so are the ones who say, well it's just a game deal with it. That's like investing years in a TV show and then the series finale just blows... would people not be outraged (i.e. The Soprano's, Lost)... it's just a TV show.... or how about a movie, you watch a 2 hour movie and the ending is the most horribly written piece of junk... it's only a movie... who cares right?

Video Games have become a new entertainment medium. For someone to invest beginning to end from ME1 on Eden Prime to The Citidel in ME3 your talking at least 60+ hours playing the game and story, and over 5 years of waiting for the conclusion to the story.

The way you talk it sounds like you just jumped on the ME bandwagon for the final installment. If you had played from the very beginning you would have taken some emotional investment int the characters (like in any compelling story) and want to know what happened to them at the very least. Not to mention the tirade of questions left unanswered by the ending only compunds the WTF everyone has.

You seem happy with the ending... fine... but that doesn't mean we have to like it, an it doesn't mean we can't express our displeasure with it... besides... it's just a game, what the hell do you care if its so meaningless.

[Talisk]

Mordins Sacrifice
Grunts Sparta moment
Geth and Quarian Peace
Thane vs the Assassin
Javvick on the Citadel
EDI and Joker
FINALLY launching the last missile before the big ground force push against Harbinger and the finale (god child) on Insanity Difficulty

[Xariann]

Really hard to point one favourite moment because the game was brilliant. But let's see a few (in no particular order)...

- All of my playthroughs are with FemShep (being a woman myself). Jennifer Hale's voice acting is great, so that spans throughout the game.

- When infiltrating Cerberus' base, in my playthrough where Shepard is with Liara (all the way from Mass Effect 1), Shepard looks at some footage regarding project Lazarus. One of the dialogue options have Shepard question herself and who she is, and Liara responded, "I wish you told me, I knew it was you first time I touched you again."

- The Renegade moment where Shepard breaks Kai Leng's sword and finishes him off with the omni-blade (despite me preferring the Paragon choices generally.)

- Thane's fight vs the Kai Leng; he totally has the moves, man! I am sure that if he wasn't sick that would have been the end of Leng *grumbles*

- Liara goes to Shepard's cabin and tells her about the recordings of what's happening; allowing Liara to tell what she thinks about Shepard and the conversation ending, "I did just write your name in the stars." Extend this to the way Liara and Traynor's romances went, I found them fairly well written and executed in game, although Traynor could have had more screen time than she has

- When Mordin decides to sacrifice himself to cure the Genophage. I liked his reactions to Shepard both for the Renegade and the Paragon conversations (I didn't shoot him as Renegade; again though, as far as Shepard goes, I prefer the Paragon)

- On my first playthrough, I had skipped something important and wound up with having to choose between Quarians and Geth (no option to have both); I was touched by Legion asking if "this unit has a soul" when he gets killed and Tali responding that it does while being heartbroken. Likewise it was devastating to see Tali end her life when choosing to save the Geth

I am sure there is a lot more I am forgetting right now.

On the subject of the ending, I think it has been discussed quite a bit and I don't have much to add beside giving some sort of option where Shepard can be with her/his other half somehow. Like the discussion in this thread has proven, there will still be people who will choose the sacrifice since they liked the endings as they are. Those who don't could choose the new option.

Modifié par Xariann, 30 mars 2012 - 01:15 .

[Crysis I]

after thinking about it, i'll be quite happy with the endings if they jus tadded more closure to the trilogy liek add a few cut scenes etc so we can see what happens. show us what the galaxy does about the mass relays and show us what happens to sheperd after surviving and he finds the creww etc. that would be enough to please quite a few people i think. just more closure

[inversevideo]

Those who want to keep the ending, as it is, should not care if BW releases new content with a better ending. They simply can choose not to install the content and keep the game as it currently exists.

But do not dismiss those who want choice.

ME is not a book, or movie, or play. ME is an interactive experience, and was marketed that way.
I don't care that others do not like upbeat endings, I do. For me grim dark has been over done in games. If Bioware fulfilled their implied promise, of multiple endings, then those who love grim dark can have grim dark, and I can have upbeat. Bioware created multiple endings for DA:O, so they have already demonstrated it can be done.

And if, due to time constraints, BW was not able to deliver choice, then at least give us an ending that is coherent. Whether or not Shepard lives or dies, the series deserves an ending that is logical, and expands, at least a bit, on the tale.

[Benchpress610]

inversevideo wrote...

Those who want to keep the ending, as it is, should not care if BW releases new content with a better ending. They simply can choose not to install the content and keep the game as it currently exists.

But do not dismiss those who want choice.

ME is not a book, or movie, or play. ME is an interactive experience, and was marketed that way.
I don't care that others do not like upbeat endings, I do. For me grim dark has been over done in games. If Bioware fulfilled their implied promise, of multiple endings, then those who love grim dark can have grim dark, and I can have upbeat. Bioware created multiple endings for DA:O, so they have already demonstrated it can be done.

And if, due to time constraints, BW was not able to deliver choice, then at least give us an ending that is coherent. Whether or not Shepard lives or dies, the series deserves an ending that is logical, and expands, at least a bit, on the tale.

You are absolutely correct sir!!!

[Sans Changer]

On a philosophical level, I don't understand why anyone would say "Don't add anything to it." I can understand "Don't change the ending" (I don't want it changed either- I just want more after it- along with real endings afterwards, but I don't want the existing ending changed, the star kid removed, etc.)

I mean, DLC was a foregone conclusion. It is the business model now. Does anyone really think BioWare/EA is only going to release DLC pertaining to multiplayer only? Or "during the mission" DLC like "From Ashes"?

They're going to release *something* that takes place after the main events... I believe that. We may not be playing Shepard anymore, but you never know (they kept saying ME3 would conclude his story, but technically any DLC is *still* ME3).

[Benchpress610]

Versidious wrote...

Theronyll Itholien wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

How freaking selfish are you, SekigaharaM? There are people seriously enjoying life a little bit less because of how crappy the ending is, and because you somehow like it... you want Bioware not to change it? If you like the ending already, you have nothing to lose. I suggest you don't download the possible DLC ending in the future. But I'm pretty certain you will, anyway. Why? Because a day from now, maybe two, you'll wake up realizing the only thing that made you think the ending was good was the sentimental music. Been there.

Well, no more selfish than us anti-enders, perhaps, if some *are* happy with the ending...

What bothers me is that there are three types of people who liked the ending:
People who have only just finished it.
People who have only *just* finished it.
People who have only just finished it!

Most of them haven't read people's objections to it, and talk about 'some weird reason', 'entitlement', or 'immaturity', as opposed to 'I disagree with your issues with the plot.' or 'I think you are being unreasonable in your dismissal of their themes and reasoning, and here's why...', and this stops them being a useful, constructive part of any discussion.

Agreed. It’s been 3 ½ weeks since release. Most hardcore ME fans got the game at release or shortly thereafter, and have finished already… We are the ones who voiced our opinions on the endings as soon as we found out how out of touch with the franchise lore they are. …The people finishing the game at this point are, for the most part, casual gamers, or new to the ME franchise. They either don’t have a strong opinion on the matter, don’t understand the story, hence the plot holes don’t bother them, or just simply don’t care.

[massassianscreedeffect]

Liara's "I've never had the urge to 'headbutt' anybody"

[lofte_2000]

Enigma1322 wrote...

Oh and I forgot to say that I thought it was really strange that Kaidan my LI didn't care if I lived or died... Don't know if it was LI specific or not but I noticed on the missions that he was often very worried about my health by telling me to watch out or asking me if I was okay, so why did he suddenly in the ending not care if I was alive or not? And why did he ran away with Joker instead of looking for me?

That actually really bothered me. No one seems to care...

[Randy Woolley]

Griever2112 wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I see most everyone still has entitlement issues... I thought the endings were just fine and I honestly hope that Bioware doesn't listen to a bunch of whiners and change.. I really think a lot of you need to get out of the house more often.. It's just a game people..

You're obviously easily pleased then. I guess you must really enjoy Uve Boll movies as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Bioware had hired him to write ME3's ending.

No, I'm just not under the misundestanding that I am ENTITLED to a game ending because I say so.. It's a product... You don't like it.. Don't buy it... Simple as that..

The way you talk it sounds like you just jumped on the ME bandwagon for the final installment. If you had played from the very beginning you would have taken some emotional investment int the characters (like in any compelling story) and want to know what happened to them at the very least. Not to mention the tirade of questions left unanswered by the ending only compunds the WTF everyone has.

Umm.. Nope... I've been playing it since the very beginning.. Waiting between game releases... Was first in line at the midnight release and pre-ordered 2 and 3... You must have missed my posted when I outright said that..

But, nice assumption..

Modifié par Randy Woolley, 30 mars 2012 - 02:47 .

[DarkFaerie316]

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Here is where you are wrong!!! 90% of people are not happy with the ending. If they were then this thread would not be as long as it is and full of complaints. While I appreciate you expressing your opinion, please consider that you are not the only person with an opinion. We have opinions too. You may not like them and you may not agree with them and that is your right. If they make an alternate ending DLC, no-one is making you buy it. Don't buy it and keep the ending you seem happy with. But do not think you have the right to say that you are the only one who deserves an ending that you are happy with. We are too!!!!!

[Ukir]

ifritanshiva wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Here is where you are wrong!!! 90% of people are not happy with the ending. If they were then this thread would not be as long as it is and full of complaints. While I appreciate you expressing your opinion, please consider that you are not the only person with an opinion. We have opinions too. You may not like them and you may not agree with them and that is your right. If they make an alternate ending DLC, no-one is making you buy it. Don't buy it and keep the ending you seem happy with. But do not think you have the right to say that you are the only one who deserves an ending that you are happy with. We are too!!!!!

Then the aforementioned 90% should make it a priority to understand what actually happens to Shepard up to the ending of ME3.

The indoctrinated theory is the only explanation that makes sense, and I personally thought that - provided the indoctrinated theory is right - the ending of ME3 was by far one of the most creative endings of any game, and if there is no continuation of the game from when Shepard is hit by the Reaper's beam, then I would be perfectly content with that.

Modifié par Ukir, 30 mars 2012 - 02:40 .

[darkway1]

Sans Changer wrote...

On a philosophical level, I don't understand why anyone would say "Don't add anything to it." I can understand "Don't change the ending" (I don't want it changed either- I just want more after it- along with real endings afterwards, but I don't want the existing ending changed, the star kid removed, etc.)

I mean, DLC was a foregone conclusion. It is the business model now. Does anyone really think BioWare/EA is only going to release DLC pertaining to multiplayer only? Or "during the mission" DLC like "From Ashes"?

They're going to release *something* that takes place after the main events... I believe that. We may not be playing Shepard anymore, but you never know (they kept saying ME3 would conclude his story, but technically any DLC is *still* ME3).

Yep,I feel exactly the same way,DLC has always played a big part in Bioware games and the ending of Mass3 I belive will be addressed.

[akenn312]

After you are hit with Harbinger's beam all control, choice and customization is taken away from the Shepard character and the player. Which has never happened before and abrupt to do. I think that's the thing that has people really upset and rightfully so. Bioware basically takes over the controller and then forces you to make three choices that are obviously forcing you to one path and a path of what they want as an ending. The thee choices turn into one ending and the player feels powerless to stop it. In the previous games this concept may still have been the case, but I as a player still felt I had freedom to end the game as I wished. The cool part was Bioware intelligently gave the player the feeling of making an independent choice and changing the dynamic of the story.

The hologram kid is hated so much because he is the visual reason the game takes away the possibility of making a choice and to take any action against a problem to solve it. It goes away from the RPG & First Person Shooter game genre completely. Before I was having fun now i'm just pressing a button to see a cut scene. Almost like the creators are saying to the player you are too stupid to do this so here let us do it for you.

If Bioware thought this would be artistic they are dead wrong, and if EA had any influence with this they need to see this as an eye opener, you can get away with cheap gimmicks in sports games or other gaming genres but Sci-fi consumers are way to meticulous to not see cheesy marketing ploys and plot holes like the one attempted here.

EA & Bioware should quickly do everything they can to save face, the consumers are giving them an out because Bioware games are so good and they want to play them but they should handle this very carefully and do the right thing for people that liked the ending and people that didn't. This doesn't just affect the Mass Effect game, but any RPG game Bioware and EA put out in the future. This seriously affects my desire to buy Dragon Age 3 now since they have already changed the main character concept with Dragon Age 2. I'm totally skeptical of what I will get with future games because of this.

Modifié par akenn312, 30 mars 2012 - 04:18 .

[Theronyll Itholien]

Playing Alan Wake on PC these days. Came by this dialogue in episode 2. A shame the Bioware writers can learn from Alan Wake. Have a read:

"A story is not a machine that does what you tell it. A story is a beast with a life of its own. You can create it, shape it, but as the story grows, it starts wanting things of its own. Change one thing, and you set off a chain reaction of events that spreads through the whole thing. The characters have to be true to themselves. The events need to follow a logic that fits the story. A single flaw and the magic is gone. The story dies. Alice Mass Effect dies."

*sigh*

[Thanatos144]

Funny thing just because you dont like the choices does not mean there is no choice...

[Gerudan]

Versidious wrote...

Well, no more selfish than us anti-enders, perhaps, if some *are* happy with the ending...

What bothers me is that there are three types of people who liked the ending:
People who have only just finished it.
People who have only *just* finished it.
People who have only just finished it!

Most of them haven't read people's objections to it, and talk about 'some weird reason', 'entitlement', or 'immaturity', as opposed to 'I disagree with your issues with the plot.' or 'I think you are being unreasonable in your dismissal of their themes and reasoning, and here's why...', and this stops them being a useful, constructive part of any discussion.

I just finished it yesterday, but that only means that my anger is so much more fresh and strong. 

Until the moment, you're beamed onto the Citadel I really thought the people were exaggerating. I thought ME3 easily superior to ME1 (which wasn't that good in my opinion) and at least on par with ME2 and the things on the Quarian and Krogan home worlds really made me hope for the best. Those were perfect missions with perfect endings, so the ending of three games must be even better, right? 

And then the "ending" happened and I was so angry and disappointed. I really thought I would never be so silly to be angry at a video game story, but that was just so bad and lazy and contradictory to the rest of the series (including ME3)...unbelievable...unfathomable...how this could have ever been green lighted, how anyone could think, this is a good ending...

[Theronyll Itholien]

(whoops, double post somehow.)

Modifié par Theronyll Itholien, 30 mars 2012 - 02:57 .