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[Benchpress610]

 
Here come the trolls again. To paraphrase one of my favorite movies: “Those trolls are out there. They can’t be reason with. They can’t be bargain with. They absolutely won’t stop until this thread is locked.”
 
The best way to deal with these people is just ignore them

Modifié par Benchpress610, 30 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[xaurabh123]

Randy Woolley wrote...

Griever2112 wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Randy Woolley wrote...

I see most everyone still has entitlement issues... I thought the endings were just fine and I honestly hope that Bioware doesn't listen to a bunch of whiners and change.. I really think a lot of you need to get out of the house more often.. It's just a game people..

You're obviously easily pleased then. I guess you must really enjoy Uve Boll movies as well. I wouldnt be surprised if Bioware had hired him to write ME3's ending.

No, I'm just not under the misundestanding that I am ENTITLED to a game ending because I say so.. It's a product... You don't like it.. Don't buy it... Simple as that..

The way you talk it sounds like you just jumped on the ME bandwagon for the final installment. If you had played from the very beginning you would have taken some emotional investment int the characters (like in any compelling story) and want to know what happened to them at the very least. Not to mention the tirade of questions left unanswered by the ending only compunds the WTF everyone has.

Umm.. Nope... I've been playing it since the very beginning.. Waiting between game releases... Was first in line at the midnight release and pre-ordered 2 and 3... You must have missed my posted when I outright said that..

But, nice assumption..

If its just a game, why is he even here on this forum...We have invested hundred hours playing the series. If you did not see the plotholes you are not even a fan

[xaurabh123]

Hexley UK wrote...

improperdancing wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

SekigaharaM wrote...

This game is awesome from the begining to de end

PLEASE DONT CHANGE ANYTHING

for strange reasons some people don like, but here you read only bad reports about game cause a 90% of players are happy and dont need blame from the best si-fi game ever.

So before bioware makes a new ending or some other wreid desicion think on pleople who loves this PERFECT game

Source for the 90% claim?

He has none.  If anything, it's starting to look more like the opposite is true.

Yea I know, just enjoy calling people out on their dubious "Facts" and making them squirm.

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/ 

look at the above poll. who is the 90%?

[Utblickaren]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment?

Nice avatar on you there Mr Priestly (Illusive Man?!) after several hours of game play I´m sitting here totally appalled with the ending!  I spent money and time on this game you know! And I´m left with this ending!?! And you are listening, -listening?

Well, listen to this I´m actually sorry I played trough ME3 at all, I totally regret it and there is nothing any answer or a DLC can do about that.

Over and out!

[Thanatos144]

Benchpress610 wrote...

 
Here come the trolls again. To paraphrase one of my favorite movies: “Those trolls are out there. They can’t be reason with. They can’t be bargain with. They absolutely won’t stop until this thread is locked.”
 
The best way to deal with these people is just ignore them

So because I dont agree with you I am a troll??????? I am consistant in my belife that I liked the ending. I havent been insulting or even rude...I have used satire though and maybe I shouldnt cause certain people dont get it.

[DJCaptainPicard]

Did anyone else have a problem with the floating platform that raised Shepard to the Star Child?

"No one has ever gotten here before," says Star Child.

Ok...so why did you let the magical platform bring me here? *boggle* Had the platform not brought me to you, you could've continued with your Reaper "solution."

And then there's the Crucible. The Reapers know it's a threat and they know it has to dock with the Citadel. So what do the Reapers do as the Crucible attempts to dock? Nothing. There are hundreds of Reapers attacking Earth who decide to just sit back and let the Crucible coast on in. Why aren't they firing on it?

Anyway, these are random tid bits I wanted to add. Everyone else has done a thorough job explaining the problems with the ending.

[Benchpress610]

Utblickaren wrote...

Nice avatar on you there Mr Priestly (Illusive Man?!) after several hours of game play I´m sitting here totally appalled with the ending!  I spent money and time on this game you know! And I´m left with this ending!?! And you are listening, -listening?

Well, listen to this I´m actually sorry I played trough ME3 at all, I totally regret it and there is nothing any answer or a DLC can do about that.

Over and out!

Exactly my feelings. I sat in dismay in front of my PC wandering what the hell had I done wrong to so royally screw up my finale.

[Benchpress610]

Oh…? What do I hear? Perhaps the wind…? Maybe a little dog barking...? Nah…*keeps minding his own business*

[DJCaptainPicard]

Here's a take on why Bioware selected the endings they did.  (This is NOT Indoctrination Theory)

http://indoctrinatio...octrinated.html

Modifié par DJCaptainPicard, 30 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[LostLogics]

 If the Indoctrination Theory is sound, don't do anything. It's absolutely fantastic and I hope we will see a DLC or similar (or maybe you guys just "unlock" it?) that gives us the ability to continue on and explore how this absolutely epic saga ends.
If the Indoctrination Theory is bogus and wishful thinking... Please... Do something. It doesn't hold water, nor does it justify all the hard work you guys have put into this game.

[Thanatos144]

DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Did anyone else have a problem with the floating platform that raised Shepard to the Star Child?

"No one has ever gotten here before," says Star Child.

Ok...so why did you let the magical platform bring me here? *boggle* Had the platform not brought me to you, you could've continued with your Reaper "solution."

And then there's the Crucible. The Reapers know it's a threat and they know it has to dock with the Citadel. So what do the Reapers do as the Crucible attempts to dock? Nothing. There are hundreds of Reapers attacking Earth who decide to just sit back and let the Crucible coast on in. Why aren't they firing on it?

Anyway, these are random tid bits I wanted to add. Everyone else has done a thorough job explaining the problems with the ending.

Um the beam took them to a part od the citidal that has never been seen ether excpet by the keepers................I thought that was clear....Maybe not now that I think of it cause they never really say it.


I was just thinking there is one thing I want to know more about and thats the keepers.

[Ukir]

LostLogics wrote...

 If the Indoctrination Theory is sound, don't do anything. It's absolutely fantastic and I hope we will see a DLC or similar (or maybe you guys just "unlock" it?) that gives us the ability to continue on and explore how this absolutely epic saga ends.
If the Indoctrination Theory is bogus and wishful thinking... Please... Do something. It doesn't hold water, nor does it justify all the hard work you guys have put into this game.

Exactly this.

The current ending with the indoctrination theory is an incredible ending and great storytelling. It's literally the battle within Shepard's mind, the fight against indoctrination itself and I feel like it brings the player more into the story than any other game has. I actually love the ending when you line the indoctrination theory up with it. 

But LostLogics, I also agree with you in that without the indoctrination theory, the ending is very unsatisfying. As it stands, there are dozens of plotholes in the final scenes (that the indoctrination theory covers, mind you) that would ultimately ruin the great plot of Mass Effect if it is left as it is.

I would love a DLC that continues when Shepard wakes up after fighting the indoctrination in his own mind. From there, I'd love to see another well-written ending to the game, one that we are all very used to seeing from BioWare, including the ending to Mass Effect 3.

[DJCaptainPicard]

Thanatos144 wrote...

DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Did anyone else have a problem with the floating platform that raised Shepard to the Star Child?

"No one has ever gotten here before," says Star Child.

Ok...so why did you let the magical platform bring me here? *boggle* Had the platform not brought me to you, you could've continued with your Reaper "solution."

And then there's the Crucible. The Reapers know it's a threat and they know it has to dock with the Citadel. So what do the Reapers do as the Crucible attempts to dock? Nothing. There are hundreds of Reapers attacking Earth who decide to just sit back and let the Crucible coast on in. Why aren't they firing on it?

Anyway, these are random tid bits I wanted to add. Everyone else has done a thorough job explaining the problems with the ending.

Um the beam took them to a part od the citidal that has never been seen ether excpet by the keepers................I thought that was clear....Maybe not now that I think of it cause they never really say it.


I was just thinking there is one thing I want to know more about and thats the keepers.

Good point, but if that platform didn't go up (for no apparent reason) Shepard would've been stuck in that console room.  He never would've seen the Star Child and never been able to access the three different-colored options.  The Reapers could've continued reaping.

Modifié par DJCaptainPicard, 30 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[Thanatos144]

DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Did anyone else have a problem with the floating platform that raised Shepard to the Star Child?

"No one has ever gotten here before," says Star Child.

Ok...so why did you let the magical platform bring me here? *boggle* Had the platform not brought me to you, you could've continued with your Reaper "solution."

And then there's the Crucible. The Reapers know it's a threat and they know it has to dock with the Citadel. So what do the Reapers do as the Crucible attempts to dock? Nothing. There are hundreds of Reapers attacking Earth who decide to just sit back and let the Crucible coast on in. Why aren't they firing on it?

Anyway, these are random tid bits I wanted to add. Everyone else has done a thorough job explaining the problems with the ending.

Um the beam took them to a part od the citidal that has never been seen ether excpet by the keepers................I thought that was clear....Maybe not now that I think of it cause they never really say it.


I was just thinking there is one thing I want to know more about and thats the keepers.

Good point, but if that platform didn't go up (for no apparent reason) Shepard would've been stuck in that console room.  He never would've seen the Star Child and never been able to access the three different-colored options.  The Reapers could've continued reaping.

The reason it went up is cause she hit a button.........

[Fishkill Tx]

I posted on one of these threads earlier but now I can post and say that I finished the game. I completed the Destroy perfect ending.

I played through with Javek as a squaddie. I am amazed that this was DLC. I had the N7 edition and got it through the download code. But after interacting with the character he became a huge part of the story. Like when your on Thessia before you actually find the beacon. (I played with J and Liara and their conversations were super interesting(even though you knew it all along). Then your conversation about memories before the push to earth. Powerful stuff.
Im just like, why would you make people pay for that? That was a highlight in my sheps story. A cool ass dude. What am I going to wade through the sexual tension in the hangar after every mission and like it? Maybe if i was a fan of men but I like chicks. Everyone else had good enough dialog. I liked the chick in MMHospital talking about her reaper encounter best. Kept me coming back.

I was disappoint that I dint bone down with Jack(the coolest LI in the game). I felt kind of derped because I guess if you chose liara or tali you could pretty much bone down whenever. Wanted Jack as a squadmate but oh well.

On insanity if your not biotic heavy and dont roll with a biotic heavy crew then its probably super hard to play. Just a guess, I survived because of biotic detonations.

I was kind of satisfied with the ending, but disappointed that nothing was explained. Why is joker and your squad on some planet. Why isn't he crying over EDI? I guess he's cool with a "real doll" that wont shatter his hip when he's getting freaky. I kinda think he'd be cool with that. So now EDI's body will just lay there and Joker doesnt have to explain why she needs to be careful anymore.

Three choices....whatever. Im cool with what happened. The signal goes out and kills all synthetics and organics live. Cool. Too bad that the next mass effect has to pick up so far in the future everyone in this story will be dead. Later when the milky ways inhabitants finally figure out how to complete a mass relay they choose not to and we can actually have a good FIREFLY game. MAKE THAT ONE PLEASE. Maybe this was the reason for the endings? Who knows?

I finished the game and marauder shields......holy crap..funny.

I really saw the ending as a reason to sell more dlc. Which for a trilogy...to get info on the finale...your kidding right? I need closure. Then Ill buy the dlc when I play as Liara and jump on the Normandy (in my head) with a door mounted cannon and blast husks out of the way of shepard as he runs for the beacon. Or play as Wrex and fight with my krogan brothers for the survival of the females. buut, think Ill just go play Skyrim.

I think Im done. Whatever. Thanks Bioware. It was a cool game. Just, when you are invested in a piece of fiction. Like this. You can do whatever you want. To make it fun. Im not saying your finale was the wrong decision. It was just....well.. boring. It had no weight. It didnt make me cry. I teared up when all those ships jumped into local cluster. Ready to sacrifice themselves to give shepard a chance to open the citadel. How epic was that?! TEARS! I think everyone wanted that big cry at the end. That big heartbreak. That looking into your lovers eves. Going black. The howl at the moon. You know? Its a release. Thats why video games are fun. I personally didnt want a happy "star wars" ending. Medals and parades...that's ******. I wanted to FEEL something. I did feel something, but..I wasted 2 hours making my sheps face. Because it was mine. Dammit! If thats not invested in a story I dont know what is. 2 hours on a face!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im not on the retake bandwagon, I just want to know. to find out how it all went down. But Im not paying for that.

Weird conversation, Didn't Anderson tell you he was born in London on the vid com? Then in the shuttle Anderson- I was born in london...Shep-Really? Awkward!!

[DJCaptainPicard]

Good point, but if that platform didn't go up (for no apparent reason) Shepard would've been stuck in that console room.  He never would've seen the Star Child and never been able to access the three different-colored options.  The Reapers could've continued reaping.[/quote] The reason it went up is cause she hit a button.........
[/quote]

It's interesting how we interpret the scenes differently.  I saw my Shep reach for the console and accomplish nothing (no button hitting).

[Thanatos144]

[quote]DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Good point, but if that platform didn't go up (for no apparent reason) Shepard would've been stuck in that console room.  He never would've seen the Star Child and never been able to access the three different-colored options.  The Reapers could've continued reaping.[/quote] The reason it went up is cause she hit a button.........
[/quote]

[quote]DJCaptainPicard wrote..It's interesting how we interpret the scenes differently.  I saw my Shep reach for the console and accomplish nothing (no button hitting).[/quote]   It is a AI not a star child.......It is the most logical point in the ending.

Modifié par Thanatos144, 30 mars 2012 - 04:08 .

[Thanatos144]

bizarre my two comment got melded together.

[Thanatos144]

there better

[Xariann]

massassianscreedeffect wrote...

Liara's "I've never had the urge to 'headbutt' anybody"

Win XD

[Versidious]

[quote]DJCaptainPicard wrote...

[quote]Thanatos114 wrote...

[quote]DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Good point, but if that platform didn't go up (for no apparent reason) Shepard would've been stuck in that console room.  He never would've seen the Star Child and never been able to access the three different-colored options.  The Reapers could've continued reaping.[/quote] The reason it went up is cause she hit a button.........
[/quote]

It's interesting how we interpret the scenes differently.  I saw my Shep reach for the console and accomplish nothing (no button hitting).[/quote]
[/quote]
[/quote]
Yeah, there was no button hitting with mine either. Maybe you need a Readiness level of over 6000 to hit the button?

Modifié par Versidious, 30 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[Theronyll Itholien]

LostLogics wrote...

 If the Indoctrination Theory is sound, don't do anything. It's absolutely fantastic and I hope we will see a DLC or similar (or maybe you guys just "unlock" it?) that gives us the ability to continue on and explore how this absolutely epic saga ends.
If the Indoctrination Theory is bogus and wishful thinking... Please... Do something. It doesn't hold water, nor does it justify all the hard work you guys have put into this game.

If the IT is sound, don't do anything?

Wait... WHAT!?

You are literally implying that if Shepard wins the battle of wills against the Reapers, and he wakes up on Earth after being struck by the beam, you're completely and utterly FINE with that being the end of the 3-games saga?!?!? I.. I can't wrap my head around that. Seriously. I cannot.

What happens with the war after Shep wakes up? Can you tell me that? Do they win? Do we win? Will Tali live? Will Garrus? Does Marauder Shields even exist?

You can't answer any of those questions, can you? And you're... FINE... with that?

It boggles the mind is what that does...

[DJCaptainPicard]

Benchpress610 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

Those who want to keep the ending, as it is, should not care if BW releases new content with a better ending. They simply can choose not to install the content and keep the game as it currently exists.

But do not dismiss those who want choice.

ME is not a book, or movie, or play. ME is an interactive experience, and was marketed that way.
I don't care that others do not like upbeat endings, I do. For me grim dark has been over done in games. If Bioware fulfilled their implied promise, of multiple endings, then those who love grim dark can have grim dark, and I can have upbeat. Bioware created multiple endings for DA:O, so they have already demonstrated it can be done.

And if, due to time constraints, BW was not able to deliver choice, then at least give us an ending that is coherent. Whether or not Shepard lives or dies, the series deserves an ending that is logical, and expands, at least a bit, on the tale.

You are absolutely correct sir!!!

Agreed.  I would happily pay $9.99 for the Alternate Endings DLC.  Heck, I'd drop $60 just so I could start getting sleep again at night.

[Versidious]

DJCaptainPicard wrote...

Benchpress610 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

Those who want to keep the ending, as it is, should not care if BW releases new content with a better ending. They simply can choose not to install the content and keep the game as it currently exists.

But do not dismiss those who want choice.

ME is not a book, or movie, or play. ME is an interactive experience, and was marketed that way.
I don't care that others do not like upbeat endings, I do. For me grim dark has been over done in games. If Bioware fulfilled their implied promise, of multiple endings, then those who love grim dark can have grim dark, and I can have upbeat. Bioware created multiple endings for DA:O, so they have already demonstrated it can be done.

And if, due to time constraints, BW was not able to deliver choice, then at least give us an ending that is coherent. Whether or not Shepard lives or dies, the series deserves an ending that is logical, and expands, at least a bit, on the tale.

You are absolutely correct sir!!!

Agreed.  I would happily pay $9.99 for the Alternate Endings DLC.  Heck, I'd drop $60 just so I could start getting sleep again at night.

Dragon Age: Origins is an excellent example...   DA:O SPOILERS You can survive, sacrifice yourself, or sacrifice someone else. You have a choice of bittersweet endings, or a foreboding but overall happy ending (Especially if you were romancing Morrigan, when the happy ending just really helps to continue your own character's saga well).

Also, let's not forget that Bethesda was more than happy to change the end of their game, Fallout 3, in response to the fans. Fallout 3 is an excellent game and, as I recall, was a Game of the Year. You don't see anyone campaigning for subsequent Bethesda Games to be completely rewritten, because Bethesda has delivered what its fans want since.

[Theronyll Itholien]

If Lord of The Rings' ending was like ME3's:

"Frodo, tired and clasping at the last fraction of his will, reached the top of Mount Doom. As he stumbled, with the ring pulling him to the ground, a voice behind him broke his determined steps toward the edge. Gollum? He thought. How can this b--? The end."