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I went into gamespot because I wanted to get some info on Witcher, I heard it is a pretty good game. I notice there was a lot of ME 3 on the perviously owned rack, around 20 of them. Now, I don't know if this is normal or what, but this seems to me be a lot of games turned in for a new release. Is this typical or the ending?

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I've posted on this specific thread a couple times and I do find that I'm quite redundant, saying the same things, and quite honestly, mostly what everyone else has said. So, I don't necessarily agree with those that are saying people who want a different/better/changed ending will never be satisfied. The problem lies in this epic decision we thought we were going to get and then...fell flat. And above I read a post that said all BioWare has to do is read the first 10 pages of this thread to get the idea, and that's true. Because the consensus is the same, the ending was a kick to the face for a series that many have loved for five years. I am not of that caliber--I've only been a fan of these games for a little over a year as I only got on to BioWare games in the past two. The first being Dragon Age, of course.

Ever since the ending, I have been reading what people are saying, what their theories are, what they hope to have happen and actually it's pretty much the same thing. Now, granted there are those that want a full-blown DLC to change the ending. Then there are those that simply want clarity in the form of a text epilogue. Me, I kind of fall in the middle. I want an ending that gives me the option as to what can happen, i.e., I want the option to either have my really good ending or where the reapers can actually win and harvest everyone. I don't think you have to change the ending, especially for those that like it. And I don't think less of those that do like it, but I don't find you and talk about how much you suck and you just don't understand it and it's a bad precedent and artistic integrity, buzz words, buzz words, buzz words, so why would you do that to me? If you like it, then that's fine. You can like it. I am not appeased with what I was given, hence why I joined the Retake ME3 movement. And perhaps you can't please everyone about what is offered, but I'm going to hold my negativity and name-calling and nastiness until I see what comes from this. I will remain cautiously optimistic about what we we are given, and then I will make an opinion on what I do with my money after the fact.

I will remain a supporter of BioWare until I feel like I shouldn't be. Perhaps they know they made a mistake, perhaps they don't. Perhaps there's something coming that we just have no idea about. But this is my glass half-full mentality. Who knows?

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tschamp wrote...

I went into gamespot because I wanted to get some info on Witcher, I heard it is a pretty good game. I notice there was a lot of ME 3 on the perviously owned rack, around 20 of them. Now, I don't know if this is normal or what, but this seems to me be a lot of games turned in for a new release. Is this typical or the ending?


They're probably all of the people that thought the ending was actually good, b*tched and moaned at everyone that thought the ending was bad then quickly traded it in so they could buy a Sega game...

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One more article that BioWare should read carefully:
http://www.forbes.co...mpaign=20120330

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Motherlander wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

There is a lot of opionon here whether it is valid or not is up to the reader. I didnt say the thread repasents the minority I said after the first few pages it is the minority keeping it alive. Yes I am one of them :) I think there should be conterpoints....Of course sonce i dont fall in step with all the rageaholics I am called a troll....I do finde that ironic though.


Yes, it is ironic that those supporting the ending are regarded as trolls.

As you say counterpoints are necessary in order to assess the validity of the various arguments and t get a feel for why people truly like or do not like the endings.

The truth is that there are trolls ( amd I am not saying you are one by any means) and band-wagon jumpers on boths sides.

To me at least, it would appear that those who dislike the endings have a better argument. Most people who dislike the endings have specific reasons.

Those who like the ending have expressed their opinion, which is valid and fair. But I have not seen any real argument to counter the specific negative criticisms of the ending which I find convincing beyond the fact that the individual just likes it or that the problems are not important to them.

The other issue is that we ending haters do not really understand why the ending-likers want to insist on NOT providing an alternative. In the end, no one will be forced to download the new DLC if one is ever released. Anyone can keep the vanilla ending if they want.

As for a small group of people keeping the thread alive. Well, you may be right. I haven't kept track of who is posting myself. But even that sends a message to some extent because it shows there is strength of feeling that goes deeper than just posting once and then going away.

Whether it will have an impact or not is another matter.


The reason that most of the people that support the ending are called trolls is because they come in here, say they liked the ending, and call everyone else dumb or entitled for not liking it, but never actually provide any legitimate reasons for liking it.

If Thanatos can give me a point for point argument for why he liked the ending and why it was a good ending, more power to him.  But thus far all he has done is come in here and post short, nonsensical replies aimed at getting a rise out of people.  Thus, they call him a troll.  There are several other people doing the same thing.

Meanwhile, most of the people that disliked the ending are providing dozens of reasons why, or linking informative articles that explain it better than they could.  We're not here for the sake of argument.  We're here to tell BioWare why we thought their ending sucked.  That is, after all, the point of this thread.

And while I'm on the subject, I'd like to touch on the concept of "constructive" versus "destructive" criticism.  I find it almost laughable that BioWare has come out and said they will only be looking at constructive criticism.  Is BioWare composed of a team of five-year-olds who can't handle someone telling them their work sucks?  Have none of them ever worked in an actual business environment where you get called out when you make mistakes?

I mean, come on.  As someone who has been writing since I was a kid, I quickly found out that constructive criticism is essentially useless.  If someone writes five paragraphs telling me how great my work is followed by one paragraph that tells me what they disliked, I'm probably going to ignore that last paragraph and focus on the positives they listed.  If someone writes five paragraphs telling me everything they hated and follows it up with a paragraph of what I did right, I basically have to focus on the negatives and come to an intelligent decision as to which points need addressed.

Destructive criticism is how artists make their work better.  If you only ever show your work to your parents, you're only ever going to get useless constructive criticism, and your work is never going to get any better.  Does BioWare really want everything sugar-coated with a plethora of positive feedback?  Or do they want to know what sucks about Mass Effect 3 so they can fix it?  It seems to me like the former, and that's a bit sad given that they are a company that is presumably staffed by professional adults.

I'm guessing part of this situation is the result of destructive criticism being relatively new to BioWare.  Prior to Dragon Age 2, pretty much all of their titles were revered.  But let it be known, BioWare, that if you don't start listening to your fans and taking their destructive criticisms into account, you're going to keep hearing it after every new game you release, and after one or two more disappointments you won't have a lot of the people that are posting here buying your games at all.

tl;dr BioWare needs to man up and learn to take some legitimate criticism.  Sorry if it sounds rude, but it's also true.  When the rest of us screw up at our jobs, our superiors don't tell us "Well, you're a great worker, but you kind of messed up a little this time."  They say "You screwed up.  Fix it."  That's our message to BioWare.

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garytwine wrote...

You know, I've seen more than a few people defending the endings. Saying they liked them not for any specific reason. They just liked them, and then they moan about all of us who don't like the endings.

Most of us have very specific reasons why we don't like the endings. We list them, talk about them between ourselves and make YouTube videos about them showing how the ending makes little sense and are full of plot holes.

We don't automatically try to cause trouble with those that like the endings. We don't call them whiners, cry babies or entitled. They do to us though a hell of a lot though it seems.

And you know what... I've yet to see a SINGLE YouTube video explaining why the ending is so great. Why the ending makes complete sense. Why the ending doesn't need improving.


Typical human behavior is when someone loses an argument or doesn’t have the fact to back their argument. He/she starts insulting and calling names the other party.

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you know the thing is, I accept "I just like it, it works for me" you don't always have to explain or even understand why you like something. however, when you make a statement like "because it makes sense" THIS you might have to explain.

see, different people like different things, and we don't always know why. and that's ok. just don't come in here and claim that people who didn't like it, are too dumb to understand it, especially since we are the ones who cam point out the exact issues we have, not merely on emotional level of "I hated it" (although that works too)

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garytwine wrote...

tschamp wrote...

I went into gamespot because I wanted to get some info on Witcher, I heard it is a pretty good game. I notice there was a lot of ME 3 on the perviously owned rack, around 20 of them. Now, I don't know if this is normal or what, but this seems to me be a lot of games turned in for a new release. Is this typical or the ending?


They're probably all of the people that thought the ending was actually good, b*tched and moaned at everyone that thought the ending was bad then quickly traded it in so they could buy a Sega game...


Most likely not.

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http://social.biowar...21/polls/31031/
This is a poll i made to analyse the proportions of players who liked or disliked the ending, which may be useful for statistics if data is needed before Bioware can consider making DLC options for a different ending - i doubt it would be reliable enough to use, but it's a useful idea anyway.

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I got the green ending and I was satisfied with it.

Organics and synthetics together, new DNA, Reaper threat ended, eternal peace, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But did I said "satisfied"? Well maybe not...

Why is Joker running like mad from the synthesis wave (the green energy)? Why does it damage the Normandy when it touches the ship? What happened to my squad? Vaporized by Harbinger beams? You call that a decent ending to characters we have been with for years? Why only Liara shows up in that planet with two moons with Joker and EDI? Where's everybody else? Did Shepard turned into data or what? Did he ended up like Legion, spread over all consciouness out there?

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!

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I finished Mass Effect 3 and I really enjoyed playing the game. My Shepard was an import from the previous games. I liked the endings for the most part. In my crazy head they made sense but I do have some confusing areas.

I know that Shepard is NOT Indoctrinated because Vendetta does not sense it on Shepard and Vendetta does sense indoctrination on Kai Leng when he shows up with the hologram of the IM also if you have the DLC Javic (sp?) does not sense any indoctrination on Shepard.

My Version of ending:
Liara makes the new VI hologram of Shepard's' story which is the story that you have been playing and the story that the old man is telling the child.
Is the old man and child in another galaxy? I would have to think so or they are in our galaxy where there were no mass relays present.
It has to be before space flight so the telling of the Shepard's story means that no one listens to the truth of Shepard's story after all which is:

The choice that with technological advance comes with it the price of either:
1. Control synthetics
2. Destroy synthetics
3. Create synergy between organics and synthetics

The dream sequences is just Shepard's combat stress kicking in at times. It's not easy trying to save the galaxy with people dying all around you.

My problem comes after the beam striking and killing Shepard and then Shepard walks into the beam. What is this all about? I know the three choices has to be shown that Shepard/humanity will always have to make and I know that you want the player to choose their ending but this is really confusing to me.
The only dead you see are humans if this was people on the Citadel then why only humans? The Keepers are the only living things I see. Do the keepers now kill? If Shepard is dead how and why are they even there? What ending does Liara put into her hologram? Just so much confusion with the endings. What is the Normandy with your crew all about? Was that just a hope of Shepard's that at least something lives even if Shepard and the entire galaxy dies?
Now for my pet peeve. There is no way you can have enough assets to get to see Shepard live and Earth saved unless you play multiplayer. That is really a bad move on BioWare's part.

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CesarSan wrote...

I got the green ending and I was satisfied with it.

Organics and synthetics together, new DNA, Reaper threat ended, eternal peace, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But did I said "satisfied"? Well maybe not...

Why is Joker running like mad from the synthesis wave (the green energy)? Why does it damage the Normandy when it touches the ship? What happened to my squad? Vaporized by Harbinger beams? You call that a decent ending to characters we have been with for years? Why only Liara shows up in that planet with two moons with Joker and EDI? Where's everybody else? Did Shepard turned into data or what? Did he ended up like Legion, spread over all consciouness out there?

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!


Shepard's essence combined with the crucible and was spread accross to every being in the galaxy. His essence was absorbed by every organic and synthetic, making every living being a mixture of both, especially being made from shepard's essense (aka the cheesy line that Shepard will always be in their hearts, but literally).
I think the Normanty being machinery may have malfunctioned due to the energy from the crucible, hence the crashing (Which makes me worry about the rest of the fleed...), also Joker and EDI are mainly there cos of their romance (if encouraged), and both being human (ish) they cuddle under the sun (d'aww).

And about the squaddies, it is presumed most survived if you have high EMS (Possibly all that survived up to the earth mission survived the epilogue), but with low EMS it is presumed that squaddies taken in the last mission were harbinged, and other squaddies may have been killed at another point (except whoever is shown at the end).

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CesarSan wrote...

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!


Like me, you are clearly not intelligent enough to answer that question.Did you not know that ME3 was meant for consumption by geniuses who can think and feel on higher levels to us normal gamers?

I am afraid we will just have to wallow in our own ignorance and self-pity.

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Motherlander wrote...

CesarSan wrote...

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!


Like me, you are clearly not intelligent enough to answer that question.Did you not know that ME3 was meant for consumption by geniuses who can think and feel on higher levels to us normal gamers?

I am afraid we will just have to wallow in our own ignorance and self-pity.


Perfect stance of sarcasm there. That's exactly how the "The ending was great you just don't get it!" folks are like...

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

CesarSan wrote...

I got the green ending and I was satisfied with it.

Organics and synthetics together, new DNA, Reaper threat ended, eternal peace, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But did I said "satisfied"? Well maybe not...

Why is Joker running like mad from the synthesis wave (the green energy)? Why does it damage the Normandy when it touches the ship? What happened to my squad? Vaporized by Harbinger beams? You call that a decent ending to characters we have been with for years? Why only Liara shows up in that planet with two moons with Joker and EDI? Where's everybody else? Did Shepard turned into data or what? Did he ended up like Legion, spread over all consciouness out there?

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!


Shepard's essence combined with the crucible and was spread accross to every being in the galaxy. His essence was absorbed by every organic and synthetic, making every living being a mixture of both, especially being made from shepard's essense (aka the cheesy line that Shepard will always be in their hearts, but literally).
I think the Normanty being machinery may have malfunctioned due to the energy from the crucible, hence the crashing (Which makes me worry about the rest of the fleed...), also Joker and EDI are mainly there cos of their romance (if encouraged), and both being human (ish) they cuddle under the sun (d'aww).

And about the squaddies, it is presumed most survived if you have high EMS (Possibly all that survived up to the earth mission survived the epilogue), but with low EMS it is presumed that squaddies taken in the last mission were harbinged, and other squaddies may have been killed at another point (except whoever is shown at the end).


according to Chakwas and EDI - Shepard's DNA is fully organic  Shepard has implants.  lots of them prothetics if you will.  probably coudln't survive without them working, just like someone with bad heart cannot survive without working defibrilator. Shepard is NOT a synthetic/organic hybrid (and neither is a person with prothetic limps, and/or difibrilators, etc).  

so
1.  what exactly is Shepard's essence?
2.  how does crucible create new DNA using Shepard he is an organic with a bunch of implants?
3.  how does it now how to adopt it to not just humans, but also to various aliens, including dextro ones, but also animals and plants... across the entire galaxy/
4.  how the heck does a green beam of energy converts everyone and preserves their form AND their minds ?

symbolicaly synthesis is nice, untill you think about the fact that not only you just took the choice away from oh everyone, but also that it guarantees NO lasting peace, unless it brainwashes people into being something different.

scientificaly?  it makes NO sence at all.  especialy with precedent of collectors, using already existing reaper technologay having FAILURE on top of FAILURE when trying to build a human reaper (remember all those bodies)  untill they get it just right.  and reapers are the ONLY beings that are actual synthetic/organic blend.  and we all remember what it takes to build a reaper, at least those of us who played ME2 do.  oh and not only that?  they have tried various species of the galaxy before settling on humans, according to what we learn , again, in ME2. 

crucible adopts it, you say?  how?

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Shepard's essence combined with the crucible and was spread accross to every being in the galaxy. His essence was absorbed by every organic and synthetic, making every living being a mixture of both, especially being made from shepard's essense (aka the cheesy line that Shepard will always be in their hearts, but literally).
I think the Normanty being machinery may have malfunctioned due to the energy from the crucible, hence the crashing (Which makes me worry about the rest of the fleed...), also Joker and EDI are mainly there cos of their romance (if encouraged), and both being human (ish) they cuddle under the sun (d'aww).

And about the squaddies, it is presumed most survived if you have high EMS (Possibly all that survived up to the earth mission survived the epilogue), but with low EMS it is presumed that squaddies taken in the last mission were harbinged, and other squaddies may have been killed at another point (except whoever is shown at the end).


A few notes on why, while accurate, none of that makes sense...

1. If merging all organic and synthetic life were an option to begin with, why not just do that instead of committing genocide every fifty thousand years?  Further, how does that at all solve the problem of organics creating synthetic life that will eventually destroy them (not that that particular problem ever made much sense to begin with)?  Couldn't the organic/synthetic hybrids still create synthetics that would someday overpower them?  

2. Why would the Catalyst create an option like this to begin with?  I mean, I guess now we're asking why the Catalyst would have designed the Citadel with any of these options built in (which also makes zero sense), but I think it's a valid question.

3. If in fact the blast destroys the Normandy, why did we not see any other ships being destroyed?  It really just seems like a lazy way for BioWare to shove in a very obvious Adam and Eve reference that didn't really have any place in the Mass Effect series to begin with.  The problem is that this Adam and Eve reference doesn't make any sense with the other endings, but they shove it into those as well (again, laziness).

4. I think any time you have to make assumptions on major plot points, the writers failed.  We have no idea what happened to the rest of Shepherd's squadmates, and given that they were all major characters (well, except James) in the trilogy, that's a huge problem.

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I think the reapers didn't synthesise to begin with because of what the catalyst says about 'harvesting' organics at the peak of their existance (or whatever he refers to it as), and stores their essence in a reaper. Though that was pretty barbaric, despide how noble it may have been intended.

And yes, my post makes no sense because the ending is pretty difficult to explain.

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it shouldn't be difficult to explain. it should make sense within the established framework of the world. Mass Effect is pretty hard sci-fi. codex entries, one after another explain exactly how the technology works. sure, it requires http://tvtropes.org/...ain/Unobtainium (or better yet tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MinovskyPhysics ) as a starting point, but from then on, once the properties of eezo are established, everything else is made to work, based on real life physics. in that sense - Mass Effect is very similar to Star trek with its dylithium.

so whatever happens with the catalyst? must also work within that framework. so, I can see how red ending may work, though I fail to understand how it distinguishes between which synthetic components to destroy and which to keep? especially with Catalyst's claims that Shepard will die, due to being part synthetic him/herself (so it cannot actually tell a difference between implant and fully formed AI after all? sorry quarians, biotics and people who have been in any way modified) but fine. suspension of disbelief.
control, again I can sorta see, with blue wave being a communications signal of sorts (though how does communications signal incinerate buildings and people in low EMS ending is also something that I'm not really understanding) although, how can Shepard control the reapers while being dead is.. hmm.. does this mean that repaers just leave for a while, and then come back again?

so much for hard sci-fi.

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Theronyll Itholien wrote...

Motherlander wrote...

CesarSan wrote...

Summing it up: What the heck happened?!


Like me, you are clearly not intelligent enough to answer that question.Did you not know that ME3 was meant for consumption by geniuses who can think and feel on higher levels to us normal gamers?

I am afraid we will just have to wallow in our own ignorance and self-pity.


Perfect stance of sarcasm there. That's exactly how the "The ending was great you just don't get it!" folks are like...

Ah, that's where the indoctrination theory comes from. The ending just went above our lesser beings' heads!

improperdancing wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Shepard's essence combined with the crucible ... point (except whoever is shown at the end).


A few notes on why, while accurate, none of that makes sense...

1. ... huge problem.

Good points and counterpoints, the truth, as intended by Bioware, should be somewhere there. An interesting point by jeweledleah is about Shepard's implants. Would the crucible diferentiate between synthetic life and any other technology or just destroy it all just to be safe? If so Shepard dies anyway as his implants are destroyed. The Adam and Eve ending seems  to suggest an ending to technologic society. A back to the basics finale.

Also the united fleets are all destroyed and everybody inside the ships dies including the entire Quarian species. A bleak ending as any. At least it explains why joker was so desperate to flee.

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I like happy endings, so after the beam during the final rush, I imagined that the rest of your squad had been pulled back and been picked up by the Normandy. (Still doesn't explain what Joker was doing in the Mass Relays.) Would have been a nice cut scene. Shepard lying in the rubble, his team trying to get to him but being held back and pushed into a mako by soldiers and retreating because they think he's dead.

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CesarSan wrote...
Good points and counterpoints, the truth, as intended by Bioware, should be somewhere there. An interesting point by jeweledleah is about Shepard's implants. Would the crucible diferentiate between synthetic life and any other technology or just destroy it all just to be safe? If so Shepard dies anyway as his implants are destroyed. The Adam and Eve ending seems  to suggest an ending to technologic society. A back to the basics finale.

Also the united fleets are all destroyed and everybody inside the ships dies including the entire Quarian species. A bleak ending as any. At least it explains why joker was so desperate to flee.


You're hinting at the real problem, which is the total lack of any closure. 

Even these awful endings as they currently are could have been partially redeemed if the scenes contained some actual closure.  They still would have been filled with sloppy writing, deus ex machina, and plot holes, but some legitimate closure would have made them bearable.

The not knowing is what kills them.  Does the red explosion kill anyone with implants?  Did it destroy anyone who relies on technology to live?  If so, he's just committed genocide on a level that would make the Reapers nod their heads in respect.  And if that's the case, did Shepherd even win?  If the entire fleet around Earth crashed and burned and every biotic in the galaxy died, was that really any better than just letting the Reapers win?

As for Joker fleeing, wouldn't he be better off crash-landing on Earth than some random planet, or just being sucked out into space if there was no planet around?  The fact that the planet he crash-landed on had oxygen and organic plant life is enough of a laughable stretch.  Why not just take your chances crashing on Earth with the rest of the fleet?  And that's assuming that the fleet crashed too, which is by no means a sure thing.

Again, the lack of certainty about any of these points is a joke.  Someone needs to let BioWare know that leaving threads open isn't necessarily artistic.  Just because you left your ending to interpretation doesn't mean it's some magical work of art, especially when the entire rest of your series was as "on the nose" as possible.

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First off, I love Bioware  I think all their games are extremely well made, especially when compared to offerings from other developers.  The only games I have finished since the first time I finished ME1 are ME2, DA:O, DA2, and ME3.  I have played many others and been unable to complete them since the story became so boring that I just couldn’t stand playing it anymore.  So, on to ME3.  I thought the game as a whole was outstanding, the multiplayer was fun, but it has it’s issues.  Most notably was the ending.  Now, I completely understand ending it this way, I have no problem with Shepard dying, nor did I have a problem with the galaxy being decimated, these were things I expected to happen.  I also don’t believe that the ending was Indoctrination/Dream.  If it was someone would have leaked it by now.  The fact was this was just the way it was.  To everyone who is demanding a new ending, it is a free country and you have the right to do that.  And to the people ridiculing those demanding an ending they like, shame on you.  They spent their money, they can try and get new content if they want.  And kudos to Bioware for actually graciously accepting that criticism and promising to offer additional content to appease these fans (dirty look to Infinity Ward).  Yes this game is art, but it is also a product offered up for customers who should be granted a voice.  Da Vinci didn’t paint the Mona Lisa for the masses, he painted it because he wanted to.  Bioware makes games for the masses, to earn a profit, why shouldn’t they attempt to maximize their profit by offering up content players want?  So, as a fan there are certain things I would love to see in ME3 DLC, and I am by no means demanding things, just asking Bioware to come on here and clarify these questions or making DLC for them.  Final note, I will have no problem paying for any DLC for ME3, I love the universe.  Another final note (haha)  please don’t bash Bioware, they are still the best developer out there.
 
Mass Effect 3;
1.  Did the destroy option destroy all machines or just Ais, such as the Reapers, Geth, and EDI?
2.  Why is there human lettering in the Citadel’s bowels?
3.  Why is Joker leaving the fight, with the squad mates you had when Harbinger blew you up?
4.  Can we get a better reveal of Tali’s face?  Something like this……
http://www.google.co...:51&tx=58&ty=58
5.   Some sort of epilogue, even in text boxes like Dragon Age: Origins, that explains the fates of the species and all the people we met along the way
6.   Funky renegade/paragon choices being flip flopped at end game?  However this may be explainable due to the choices in Legion: House Divided, where brainwashing was paragon, and destroy was renegade.
7.  Why do the control/synthesis options destroy the relays?
8.   Lastly, with any DLC could we please get a journal change?  Get some more detail in the journal entries for missions?  And If possible, more Hub areas to explore, there have been less and less since ME1.

Things I would like to see resolved from Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2:
1.  Whatever happened to Corporal Tombs?
2.  What happened to Billy (excaped prisoner from Purgatory)?
3.  What is the relic you can get on your cabin table in Mass Effect 2?
4.  What happened to the consort?
5.  Any results from Keeper testing?
6.  What was going on with Haestrom’s sun?
7.  Why legion wears N7 armor?
8.  Why the Reapers built a human reaper and made the remark to collector general, “You have failed, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY”  Another way to do what?

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CesarSan

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A good video about the ending inconsistencies:

In the video there is something that is bothering me since yesterday when I finished the game:

Whatever-it-was kid: "We created synthetics to kill organic life to stop synthetics to kill organic life"...

Seriously?!

I will not even talk about this insane logic, but have you been watching? The peace among the Geth and the Quarians I brokered, have you seen that? Oh never mind you are crazy, I got it now....

@
improperdancing : Ah, exactly. Closure, that's what the endings severely lacks.

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The Krogan Warlord

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Favourite Moment?

Mass Effect 2 ending - suicide mission

That had a happyish ending. Plus it made sense.

Modifié par The Krogan Warlord, 31 mars 2012 - 04:44 .


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Ravenmyste

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CAPT Awesome CG
7. Why legion wears N7 armor? already been answered by legion when you ask him in me2
8. Why the Reapers built a human reaper and made the remark to collector general, “You have failed, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY” Another way to do what?



that wasn't to the general that was to Shepard as he blew up the base, the human reaper was what they defined as ascended form for humanity{how the hell didn't you catch all this i guess you diidnt play arrival}

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 31 mars 2012 - 04:53 .