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Omnike wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Omnike wrote...

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Omnike wrote...

I just hope whatever this DLC is, it comes out before September.


what happens in September?


I'll be at MCT for the Marines. And the whole time I'll get to think about this whole DLC stuff. Which is why I hope they announce something for early August. 


oh.. well here's to hoping that we'll get something sooner rather then later.


Definitely. I'm really hoping we'll get some solid news on what's going on at PAX. I think some dev said something on their twitter about talking about the whole DLC thing this weekend.


Here's to hoping we get something.

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Kain82 wrote...

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Still here huh? Was talking with a friend today about the game and we have differing opinions on the ending. But we both agree that changing it is wrong. Sure adding more options is a more honest way to please the fan base (not just the rage trolls). Also a epilogue till they can male more choices. They don't have to keep shepard alive or save the relays as long as they explain why they did it.


If the indoctrination theory was biowares intention (linked above), then the game isn't finished and must be continued when shepard wakes up. this theory answers all the questions that people have and covers the loop holes. I myself have been converted to believing this theory as it makes sense, whereas the ending being real doesn't at all. if bioware actually reveal this was their intention then that is some creative but loco writing right there. I like it!.. will always be waiting for full closure and multiple endings as promised though.


If the Indoctrination theory turns out to be true then all that really means is that Bioware cut the conclusion to the game so they could sell it to us. Its not clever, its not some genius move. It just show that Bioware have very little regard for their fans or their Game, because to put out a game with such a broken end, knowing that fans/customers will buy it in good faith and turn around and sell them the real end, while pulling the Artistic Integrity card to try and slience complints, its just wrong.

The InDOC theory sounds good but the fans/customers lose if Bioware try to pass all this off as some brilliant plan, because it means they sold an incomplete game. The game could have ended with a well thought out end that takes account of players choices and their hard work and Bioware still could have put out DLC to add more side story or even add a mission that has the last of the reapers trying a last ditch attempt to destory everthing and all would have been good, but they didnt do that instead we have this mess.

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really doubt it, if your are listening, you would give us an alternative ending, this is what the majority of your fan base want. Clarifications of an non-rewarding and unsatisfying ending isn't going to cut it.
We want better ending!!!

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AkaXan wrote...

Kain82 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Still here huh? Was talking with a friend today about the game and we have differing opinions on the ending. But we both agree that changing it is wrong. Sure adding more options is a more honest way to please the fan base (not just the rage trolls). Also a epilogue till they can male more choices. They don't have to keep shepard alive or save the relays as long as they explain why they did it.


If the indoctrination theory was biowares intention (linked above), then the game isn't finished and must be continued when shepard wakes up. this theory answers all the questions that people have and covers the loop holes. I myself have been converted to believing this theory as it makes sense, whereas the ending being real doesn't at all. if bioware actually reveal this was their intention then that is some creative but loco writing right there. I like it!.. will always be waiting for full closure and multiple endings as promised though.


If the Indoctrination theory turns out to be true then all that really means is that Bioware cut the conclusion to the game so they could sell it to us. Its not clever, its not some genius move. It just show that Bioware have very little regard for their fans or their Game, because to put out a game with such a broken end, knowing that fans/customers will buy it in good faith and turn around and sell them the real end, while pulling the Artistic Integrity card to try and slience complints, its just wrong.

The InDOC theory sounds good but all it really means is that fans/customers lose if Bioware try to pass all this off as some brilliant plan, bacause it means they sold an incomplete game. The game could have ended with a well thought out end that takes account of players choices and their hard work and Bioware still could have put out DLC to add more side story or even add a mission that has the last of the reapers trying a last ditch attempt to destory everthing and all would have been good, but they didnt do that instead we have this mess.


I see your point. they could have used the indoc theory and still extend the game to actually have multiple real endings to conclude the series. I have a feeling EA had a huge part of this plan though, doubt it was just Bioware, if at all. In the end it's a business and they know hundreds of thousands of ppl will purchase any DLC that concludes the game... Very shifty.

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You know, given the title of this thread and the subsequent lack of interaction, I feel it is not only right but necessary to use a modified varient of the Pantomime Defence:

Oh No You Aren't !

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Leem_0001 wrote...

One more day until PAX, anyone else starting to feel a sense of foreboding? Like the last tiny glimmer of hope we all have is about to be snuffed out when Bioware announces it is simply 'polishing the turd'?


LOL....I feel exactly the same way,My biggest fear from PAX would be the discovery that Bioware/EA is happy with everything and makes a promise to release lots of multiplayer maps.....sigh.....IE,they have lost the plot.:pinched:

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Keltikone wrote...

You know, given the title of this thread and the subsequent lack of interaction, I feel it is not only right but necessary to use a modified varient of the Pantomime Defence:

Oh No You Aren't !


 The truth and nothing more.

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Keltikone wrote...

You know, given the title of this thread and the subsequent lack of interaction, I feel it is not only right but necessary to use a modified varient of the Pantomime Defence:

Oh No You Aren't !


....Oh YES you ARE!!:o

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AkaXan wrote...

Kain82 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Still here huh? Was talking with a friend today about the game and we have differing opinions on the ending. But we both agree that changing it is wrong. Sure adding more options is a more honest way to please the fan base (not just the rage trolls). Also a epilogue till they can male more choices. They don't have to keep shepard alive or save the relays as long as they explain why they did it.


If the indoctrination theory was biowares intention (linked above), then the game isn't finished and must be continued when shepard wakes up. this theory answers all the questions that people have and covers the loop holes. I myself have been converted to believing this theory as it makes sense, whereas the ending being real doesn't at all. if bioware actually reveal this was their intention then that is some creative but loco writing right there. I like it!.. will always be waiting for full closure and multiple endings as promised though.


If the Indoctrination theory turns out to be true then all that really means is that Bioware cut the conclusion to the game so they could sell it to us. Its not clever, its not some genius move. It just show that Bioware have very little regard for their fans or their Game, because to put out a game with such a broken end, knowing that fans/customers will buy it in good faith and turn around and sell them the real end, while pulling the Artistic Integrity card to try and slience complints, its just wrong.

The InDOC theory sounds good but the fans/customers lose if Bioware try to pass all this off as some brilliant plan, because it means they sold an incomplete game. The game could have ended with a well thought out end that takes account of players choices and their hard work and Bioware still could have put out DLC to add more side story or even add a mission that has the last of the reapers trying a last ditch attempt to destory everthing and all would have been good, but they didnt do that instead we have this mess.


This! Exactly this!

I have long thought about it. If they have the impudence to charge for a "the true Ending"-DLC I will do the following:

1. If the price is higher then 7 EUR - no buy and almost no buy of any  EA AND BIOWARE Games/Books/Comics in the future

2. If the price is clearly lower as 7 EUR i will give Bioware games a small chance in future. But no further DLC-Buy for ME3. No further buy of ME3 related Books and Comics and EA Titles.

3. free of charge -> Bioware made my day and I'm looking forward to buy DA3 (if they show that they have learnd out of DA2 and this mess), Books and Comics and only try to avoid other EA Games. Kingdoms of Amalur and SSX will be the first.

Tip: please try the Witcher Series! That are very fine, emotional and consequent games... gog.com sell them for a good prise and DRM free!! The only games I got similar emotions (but satisfied) like in ME...

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any news about any upcoming DLC yet?

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karlchen wrote...


Tip: please try the Witcher Series! That are very fine, emotional and consequent games... gog.com sell them for a good prise and DRM free!! The only games I got similar emotions (but satisfied) like in ME...


LOL i am downloading the witcher 2 as we speak

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I am losing all hope. All things considered.

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The Krogan Warlord

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Legion91 wrote...

any news about any upcoming DLC yet?


Theres going to be an announcement at PAX tommorow.

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The Krogan Warlord wrote...

Legion91 wrote...

any news about any upcoming DLC yet?


Theres going to be an announcement at PAX tommorow.



about time aswell, is there anywhere you can watch it without actually being at the show?
websites or xbox dashboard does any1 know?

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The Krogan Warlord

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I think its funny how this forum was to do with people's favourite moments in the Mass Effect tirliogy and now its descended into debate about the ending. Lol.

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dfdsgrgre wrote...

karlchen wrote...


Tip: please try the Witcher Series! That are very fine, emotional and consequent games... gog.com sell them for a good prise and DRM free!! The only games I got similar emotions (but satisfied) like in ME...


LOL i am downloading the witcher 2 as we speak



if you haven't played it already, try Witcher 1 Enhanced Edition too. It costs about 10 bucks and is very impressive and still looks quite good!

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Has anybody read the articles about EA saying they are not making new ending???? Any info on that anybody pls tell me there will be a happy ending somewhere

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Kain82 wrote...
If the indoctrination theory was biowares intention (linked above), then the game isn't finished and must be continued when shepard wakes up. this theory answers all the questions that people have and covers the loop holes. I myself have been converted to believing this theory as it makes sense, whereas the ending being real doesn't at all. if bioware actually reveal this was their intention then that is some creative but loco writing right there. I like it!.. will always be waiting for full closure and multiple endings as promised though.


This.
No need for Jennifer Hale to record any additional content if there has been a plan all along. ;)

(I'm not saying it will happen - but let's trust to hope.)

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Keltikone wrote...

You know, given the title of this thread and the subsequent lack of interaction, I feel it is not only right but necessary to use a modified varient of the Pantomime Defence:

Oh No You Aren't !


Ah but you see just because they say they are listening, dosent mean they actually care to do anything about it. After all they got our money, they got the gaming press to suck up and praise them no end and never mention to their readers and Mass Effect fans that for all the great things contatined in ME3 the ending sadly betrays the games main premis of your choises matter and breaks the games lore and logic too.

The only real hope is that EA start to see that this will greatly effect their DLC plans and future ME games. Sure they will get good intial sales of DLC and such, but it wont be anywhere near what it could be if this mess isnt sorted and Bioware actually listen.

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Fellow Mass Effect-fans,

please, let's keep a cool head in all of this.

I've seen plenty of folks wax hysterical around here, attributing sinister motives to the creators at every turn, and acting as if the cards have all been laid down already.
They have not.

Let's give Bioware the benefit of the doubt for now, without letting down our guard.
Hold the line and make our voices heard - yet give them a chance as well.

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I wonder if people's reaction to Mass Effect3 had anything to do with this??????????

http://consumerist.c...a-for-2012.html

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Everything about the game was great, right up to the ending. I've played through 4 times now and it still makes no sense to me at all, maybe i'm just stupid or something. But it just doesn't feel like this ending belongs in Mass Effect. Maybe in any other game sure, but not Mass Effect. I dunno, I'm just hugely disappointed this the ending, it was a massive let down.

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One more day ladies and gentlemen one more day. Then we will see if Bioware will sink or swim

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Jassu1979 wrote...

Fellow Mass Effect-fans,

please, let's keep a cool head in all of this.

I've seen plenty of folks wax hysterical around here, attributing sinister motives to the creators at every turn, and acting as if the cards have all been laid down already.
They have not.

Let's give Bioware the benefit of the doubt for now, without letting down our guard.
Hold the line and make our voices heard - yet give them a chance as well.

I like the way you think
shouting and adding alot of !!!! wont get ones voice heard.

Besides I am sure whatever happends Bioware can't please everyone but they will give it there best shot

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I've "accepted" all the EA hate here all te whilethinking aomething I never cared to voice, but now I do.

You see... can this truly all be EA's fault? Is Bioware such a moronic slave to their will? Because what I don't get is that there obviously hadn't been an important Bioware guy saying "No. Just... No. Sorry EA but we are not gonna ram our stick up our customers their arses. We just won't.".

Maybe they did, but all signs tell me that Bioware was completely supporting their own crapf*ck ending... all the while caressing the veiny surface of their beating, holy "artistic integrity".