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LiarasShield

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Yup why even give us the option of importing our characters when none of our choices towards the end make a damn bit of difference " We miss you shepard I hope that you could've been with me and the kids miss you" Liara T'soni

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jeweledleah wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Here is the blog detailing it. It still sounds bad. Just some extended cut scenes and an epilogue. To explain what? The type of berry that the crew lives on in the jungle? This sounds like bogus

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/


and suddenly.. I'm starting to think that that "Mass Shift" leak may have been the real deal after all.  since they seem to be adamant about destruction of relays and killing off Shepard....


Yup! I think thats why they ended up forcing this ending in Mass Effect 3, they probalby had the Dark energy idea or something like it originally then under corporate pressure or maybe they just thought it would work started down this Mass Shift direction. Makes sense EA puts on the corporate pressure and cuts down the production time, Bioware can't make it work then STAR CHILD's bad motivation is born.

Its actually funny, all the fanboys that were trying to defend Bioware's artsistc integrity or trying to act like they were more intiligent than the average bear are not realizing they are backing one of the worst trip ups in advertising and story telling in entertaiment media. Bioware/EA had no idea this would go this badly for them trying to get this Mass Shift idea in place. Bioware lost a lot of fans with this they really will have to make the DLC epic to get them back.
If they haven't already lost them forever. 

Modifié par akenn312, 05 avril 2012 - 04:17 .


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sinlessorrow wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Here is the blog detailing it. It still sounds bad. Just some extended cut scenes and an epilogue. To explain what? The type of berry that the crew lives on in the jungle? This sounds like bogus

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/


and suddenly.. I'm starting to think that that "Mass Shift" leak may have been the real deal after all.  since they seem to be adamant about destruction of relays and killing off Shepard....


I have to admit Mass Shift sounded superb


the nicest thing I could say to this is... YMMV

if I'm honest about how I feel about "Mass Shift", I'll break every BSN posting rule, several times over.

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well maybe someday bioware will listen and not troll us like capcom does in their fighters lol

Modifié par LiarasShield, 05 avril 2012 - 04:15 .


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mrcanada wrote...

Ok, does that mean Bioware intended the ending to be nonsensical and basically impossible or that the indoctrination idea was intended?

I'm struggling to understand this press release.


This hurts me.....

The bolded part is the most disheartening. They WANTED the ending to make no sense, so that we would talk about it? Smh.....No, I want to play the game more than 5 times, like I did with Oblivion and ME-2. That's what I wanted.....

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jeweledleah wrote...

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Yeah, I get why it's free, making people pay for this DLC would look... bad and would have in the end probably of alienated more of the peeps wanting a revised ending (or whatever this is) than it would have brought back. I'm just a little surprised, I honestly didn't expect this to be free.

And when was Bring Down the Sky free? I payed £5 for it.


hmm.. could it be, its just for pc that its free?  because for me i was always free and still is free :huh:

and to be honest, I DID expect the "clarification" DLC to be free.  I was just hoping that they wouldn't take the path of least resistance :(  I would have payed for fully revised ending.  I did pay for Broken steel after all (granted, Broken steel wasn't JUST the revised ending, but, you get the idea)


400 msp it set me back, so it only realy cost me £3.43.

Despite my issues with the ending I have to say I respect Bio for not giving in to the crushing pressure of the fan base and sticking to their vision. Would I have liked an ending that didn't destroy the Mass Relays and leave 1000's stranded in the sole system? Of course. But I'm getting somthing that (I hope) better explains things and I'm happy with that. Maybe thats all my tiny brain needs. lol And who knows maybe we will get that 'Broken Steel' DLC, I mean they did say there would be DLC for the game and an expansion that bring Shep back would be a shoe in.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 05 avril 2012 - 04:22 .


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Bioware, you have failed.

Games are made for players by developers. You have forgotten what being a developer is about. We do not pay money to see an ending that YOU wanted to see. Mass Effect 3 will be dropped off at Gamestop tomorrow. I will not buy any future games from Bioware or EA. If I get another EA game, it will be a used copy from Gamestop, because I know how much EA loves Gamestop. My friends will no longer hear positive things about Bioware from me, and I will convince them to do as I said in the above.

Enjoy your artistic dishonesty, corruption, or whatever.

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NO you clearly didn't and still doesn't.

You openly lied to your fans and disappointed them.And you're surprised you get name calling ? I mean seriously ?

That's the last game i buy from you.That's for sure.

You used to be great.How the mighty have fallen...Never been so true..

Modifié par Nonoru, 05 avril 2012 - 04:17 .


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akenn312 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Here is the blog detailing it. It still sounds bad. Just some extended cut scenes and an epilogue. To explain what? The type of berry that the crew lives on in the jungle? This sounds like bogus

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/


and suddenly.. I'm starting to think that that "Mass Shift" leak may have been the real deal after all.  since they seem to be adamant about destruction of relays and killing off Shepard....


Yup! I think thats why they ended up forcing this ending in Mass Effect 3, they probalby had the Dark energy idea or something like it originally then under corporate pressure or maybe they just thought it would work started down this Mass Shift direction. Makes sense EA puts on the corporate pressure and cuts down the production time, Bioware can't make it work then STAR CHILD's bad motivation is born.

Its actually funny, all the fanboys that were trying to defend Bioware's artsistc integrity or trying to act like they were more intiligent than the average bear are not realizing they are backing one of the worst trip ups in advertising and story telling in entertaiment media. Bioware/EA had no idea this would go this badly for them trying to get this Mass Shift idea in place. Bioware lost a lot of fans with this they really will hav eto make the DLC epic to get them back. Hopefully if they haven't already lost them forever. 


I used to preorder Blizzard games.  now I'm not even moved when they go on sale.

I used to preorder Bioware games.  looks like bioware is joining Blizzard on my purchase priority list.

#13935
LiarasShield

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Ea: Assuming direct control you players will not like this

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Well I heard about all the negative feedback before I finished the game. So I was expecting a black screen with to be continue, or an "it was all just a dream" ending.

But I got... A VERY GOOD ending!! I had to watch and read why other people didn't like it to understand. And yes some points are valid but mostly just picky! The 3 choices in the end are vastly different also, even if the cinematic are almost the same! I liked or loved everything about the ending!

I didn’t have that high hopes for the third game because even though I loved the first one the second game was lacking and felt more like a side mission with not enough epic main story arc. But even the second game got better after playing the third because it fits in more now as a whole. So well done Bioware to one of the best game series ever with a superb ending!!

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To all who are saying that Bioware is not listening, they are. They're listening about as well as teenager, I.E. in one ear and out the other :P

Frankly, I'm just tired of modern societies "Artistic Vision." This ending makes we want to go re-watch the Star Wars Original Trilogy (The Original Original trilogy, before GL screwed it up nearly as this SNAFU) At least that has a decent ending.

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Andy the Black wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Yeah, I get why it's free, making people pay for this DLC would look... bad and would have in the end probably of alienated more of the peeps wanting a revised ending (or whatever this is) than it would have brought back. I'm just a little surprised, I honestly didn't expect this to be free.

And when was Bring Down the Sky free? I payed £5 for it.


hmm.. could it be, its just for pc that its free?  because for me i was always free and still is free :huh:

and to be honest, I DID expect the "clarification" DLC to be free.  I was just hoping that they wouldn't take the path of least resistance :(  I would have payed for fully revised ending.  I did pay for Broken steel after all (granted, Broken steel wasn't JUST the revised ending, but, you get the idea)


400 msp it set me back, so it only realy cost me £3.43.

Despite my issues with the ending I have to say I respect Bio for not giving in to the crushing pressure of the fan base and sticking to their vision. Would I have liked an ending that didn't destroy the Mass Relays and leave 1000's stranded in the sole system? Of course. But I'm getting somthing that (I hope) better explains things and I'm happy with that. Maybe thats all my ****** brain needs. lol And who knows maybe we will get that 'Broken Steel' DLC, I mean they did say there would be DLC for the game and an expansion that bring Shep back would be a shoe in.


lucky you.

I wanted Shepard alive and reunited with the Normandy and its crew, I wanted relays intact.  I'm getting neither.  no clarification in a world will fix that.

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So for the conveniece the link for the polls, about what the players thought about the ending(s):

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/

I think that says it all about how who listened.

Though maybe they will surprise us, lets wait, after all it is for free.

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CuseGirl wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Ok, does that mean Bioware intended the ending to be nonsensical and basically impossible or that the indoctrination idea was intended?

I'm struggling to understand this press release.


This hurts me.....

The bolded part is the most disheartening. They WANTED the ending to make no sense, so that we would talk about it? Smh.....No, I want to play the game more than 5 times, like I did with Oblivion and ME-2. That's what I wanted.....


Based on the previous games, many people had hope that they actually DIDN'T forget how to write at the very ending when it mattered most and would follow it up with a free and proper finale.  Call it hope and a belief in intended brilliance.

Sadly, this isn't true.  I don't even get what you are trying to say.........

#13941
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16 different type of endings where you're actions actually mattered or how we wouldn't get a b c endings Bioware Lying to your fans once shame on you lying to them again by saying you're listening then talk about some exclusive dlc that won't change the ending and still will foucs on your different colored explosion nonsense with the starchild OMG if you didn't want to take the fans seriously why did you even make 3rd game ????????????

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LDSJediMaster wrote...

To all who are saying that Bioware is not listening, they are. They're listening about as well as teenager, I.E. in one ear and out the other :P

Frankly, I'm just tired of modern societies "Artistic Vision." This ending makes we want to go re-watch the Star Wars Original Trilogy (The Original Original trilogy, before GL screwed it up nearly as this SNAFU) At least that has a decent ending.


Im curently looking for my startrek boxsets

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demonWhistler wrote...

Well I heard about all the negative feedback before I finished the game. So I was expecting a black screen with to be continue, or an "it was all just a dream" ending.

But I got... A VERY GOOD ending!! I had to watch and read why other people didn't like it to understand. And yes some points are valid but mostly just picky! The 3 choices in the end are vastly different also, even if the cinematic are almost the same! I liked or loved everything about the ending!

I didn’t have that high hopes for the third game because even though I loved the first one the second game was lacking and felt more like a side mission with not enough epic main story arc. But even the second game got better after playing the third because it fits in more now as a whole. So well done Bioware to one of the best game series ever with a superb ending!!


You missed the entire point of the complaints and why the ending make no sense whatsoever. 

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LiarasShield wrote...

well maybe someday bioware will listen and not troll us like capcom does in their fighters lol


BioWare sees "no distinction" between lying and telling fans it's listening, and actually listening. [/capcom reference]

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dfdsgrgre wrote...

LDSJediMaster wrote...

To all who are saying that Bioware is not listening, they are. They're listening about as well as teenager, I.E. in one ear and out the other :P

Frankly, I'm just tired of modern societies "Artistic Vision." This ending makes we want to go re-watch the Star Wars Original Trilogy (The Original Original trilogy, before GL screwed it up nearly as this SNAFU) At least that has a decent ending.


Im curently looking for my star trek boxsets



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LDSJediMaster wrote...

To all who are saying that Bioware is not listening, they are. They're listening about as well as teenager, I.E. in one ear and out the other :P

Frankly, I'm just tired of modern societies "Artistic Vision." This ending makes we want to go re-watch the Star Wars Original Trilogy (The Original Original trilogy, before GL screwed it up nearly as this SNAFU) At least that has a decent ending.


I agree. To H*ll with "artistic vision" and "artistic Integrity" and a "polarizing ending." Bioware is just making me livid...

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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.



Seems like you aren't.

#13948
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yup bioware is starting to troll us like capcom or locking content that is on the damn disk which isn't true dlc lol U_u

Modifié par LiarasShield, 05 avril 2012 - 04:23 .


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http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

No you're not listening at all... The ENTIRE ENDING makes no sense:

Star child - wtf is that about, he made the reapers? How?
Cruciable - designed to destroy? Yet it suddenly let's us do 2 other things without any explanation as to why it does that.
Where is this new place? How come none of the thousands of other species have ever gotten there?
How did anderson get to the beam without injury? Why didn't we go with him if he could survive with light armour? I walked in backwards there was no one there.
How did the illusive man get there?
How come he can control people all of a sudden?
How come we hear Coates say that no one made it to the beam?
How come we don't tell Coates that we did make it to the beam and to press on as Harby left? Back up would have made sense...
How come we have magic ammo that doesn't need reloading?
How come our team isn't with us if our ems is high enough? Surely they should be there somewhere...
if they are there how do they get back on the Normandy and why are they retreating through the gate?
What is happening with the rest of the fleet/galaxy
Why do we wake up in the destroy ending?

I could go on but I can't be arsed now

Modifié par ba0987, 05 avril 2012 - 04:36 .


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akenn312 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Here is the blog detailing it. It still sounds bad. Just some extended cut scenes and an epilogue. To explain what? The type of berry that the crew lives on in the jungle? This sounds like bogus

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/


and suddenly.. I'm starting to think that that "Mass Shift" leak may have been the real deal after all.  since they seem to be adamant about destruction of relays and killing off Shepard....


Yup! I think thats why they ended up forcing this ending in Mass Effect 3, they probalby had the Dark energy idea or something like it originally then under corporate pressure or maybe they just thought it would work started down this Mass Shift direction. Makes sense EA puts on the corporate pressure and cuts down the production time, Bioware can't make it work then STAR CHILD's bad motivation is born.

Its actually funny, all the fanboys that were trying to defend Bioware's artsistc integrity or trying to act like they were more intiligent than the average bear are not realizing they are backing one of the worst trip ups in advertising and story telling in entertaiment media. Bioware/EA had no idea this would go this badly for them trying to get this Mass Shift idea in place. Bioware lost a lot of fans with this they really will have to make the DLC epic to get them back.
If they haven't already lost them forever. 


Once this Extended Cut thing comes out, I'll judge for myself. But this pretty much squeezes any chance of it being the IT and I highly doubt they'll be able to make any more sense out of the star child and his stupid room than we did.