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[sinlessorrow]

LiarasShield wrote...

Break their hold don't let them control you bioware their are better companies to work with then ea hell maybe bethesda would be more open to working with you guys and perhaps you guys wouldn't be reestrainted or so quickly to push stuff outdoor and be able to finish it for fans

Dont blame EA.

Not every game published by EA has a crap ending, BF3 and dead space are both EA gamrs and kept true to the game. This is all on bioware.

[cristov]

From good source I know they will change red to orange, blue to violet and green to brown. And now it makes sense!

But for sure they should change EA to something else...

[Blue Liara]

cristov wrote...

From good source I know they will change red to orange, blue to violet and green to brown. And now it makes sense!

But for sure they should change EA to something else...

No your wrong. All the endings will be Brown, Black, and dark Green to represent the truth about the endings. They are all S**T!!

[akenn312]

Okay i'm not at all siding with the idiotic Bioware fanboy that thinks he understands what artistic integrity means but also we kinda have to understand that Bioware can't completely give into us too. Within the industry now they are seen as the company that made the worst ending in RPG video game history and has ruined one of the top grossing games in the industry.

That's really not good...

But If they changed it to Indoctrination theory or things suggested in the Nerd Rage videos they would now be considered the company that made the worst RPG endings in video game entertainment and also were too dumb to make their own ending and needed fans to finish it for them.

That's a lot worse...

Would any of us buy another game from Bioware if we had to finish their ending for them? I agree 100% with the understated nerd rage guy about whats wrong with the ending but I would never respect Bioware again if they did exactly what he suggests.

That's why I was hoping they had originally planned another ending but changed it at the last minute to this bad one because it would still be their idea and they could just put that in instead. That also could actually still happen too.

Big companies lie all the time about artistic integrity and morals. They are all about making money not art. They would not run a million dollar franchise into the ground just to keep their artistic integrity intact. Only a fool would beleive that. They just didn't think the ending was that bad and were wrong. Remember we are talking about the same company that came up with first day paid DLC.

Modifié par akenn312, 05 avril 2012 - 05:59 .

[Sir Bum]

You're listening, but not hearing.

[Wikkr]

To those who are happy with the ending well done, you are able to ignore plot holes and last minute deus ex endings and focus on the joy that is 99% of the game content leading up to the end. Sadly the rest of us where really looking forward to the epic ending promised and built up by bioware in the run up to release. what we got was something Casey hudson specificly stated we wouldnt be getting, an abc ending. Now we get 'clarification' dlc which will try to explain away all the plot holes they left in the ending.

If i went to a restuarant and had a perfect 3 course meal but the desert was a dog turd on a plate. i wouldnt want extra turd in a complimentary doggiebag. Time to see what other games are out there

Oh and to those parroting biowares artistic integrity defence plea. they lost the right to claim that the moment they put a "buy moar dlc" sticker on the end of the credits

Modifié par Wikkr, 05 avril 2012 - 05:54 .

[LiarasShield]

and thanaos come pax and you're wrong and they don't provide the 16 promised endings or make our actions count towards the end does that mean your the guy we can all yell at for being wrong?

[Legion91]

i have just 1 question to ask, what do they mean when they say it was good artisticly??

[garytwine]

Thanatos144 wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

This thread is proof that most of you are mad cause Shep bites it in the end and the relays go boom. Cause if the extended cut is there to fill in the plot holes thats all that left to complain about. Well that and what that guy said that wasn't to bright.

For the love of God. Please... just... be... quiet. Don't  reply to every you don't agree with. Don't argue Black is White or that the Earth is flat.

You're like acting like a caracture of some character from a character TV show. "You don't want to do it like that, you should do it like this! Naaahhhhh! You were wrong and I was right. Naaahh nahhh neh naahhh nahhh."

Please, I would actually pay you to be quiet at this point.

I actually feel physically sickened by the news about the 'Extending cut'. I'm really not sure what to think anymore. Is this good, is this bad. Is this what indoctrination feels like...

I have and will reply to what I don't agree with anytime I like thank you
and don't really care that you think I should be silenced for not
thinking like you. I am not asking you to be silent. I am can , have ,
and will state my opinion as much as you will. If you don't like it don't
read it.

*sigh* there's a difference between stating opinion and being too thick skinned to understand that no one here cares what you think or say... repeatedly without being asked no matter what.

But don't worry, you're right. You're not worth interacting with anymore.

/ignore

[RealStyli]

Thanatos144 wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

This thread is proof that most of you are mad cause Shep bites it in the end and the relays go boom. Cause if the extended cut is there to fill in the plot holes thats all that left to complain about. Well that and what that guy said that wasn't to bright.

For the love of God. Please... just... be... quiet. Don't  reply to every you don't agree with. Don't argue Black is White or that the Earth is flat.

You're like acting like a caracture of some character from a character TV show. "You don't want to do it like that, you should do it like this! Naaahhhhh! You were wrong and I was right. Naaahh nahhh neh naahhh nahhh."

Please, I would actually pay you to be quiet at this point.

I actually feel physically sickened by the news about the 'Extending cut'. I'm really not sure what to think anymore. Is this good, is this bad. Is this what indoctrination feels like...

I have and will reply to what I don't agree with anytime I like thank you
and don't really care that you think I should be silenced for not
thinking like you. I am not asking you to be silent. I am can , have ,
and will state my opinion as much as you will. If you don't like it don't
read it.

Except you're not making an informed argument. We respect your right to an opinion but, at the very least, read up on why people are angry at the ending before saying a blanket and mostly false statement.

We're not angry because Shep dies, we were told this was his/her last game so I think a lot of people assumed he/she would die. So I think you're wrong there. Plus, in the "destroy" ending, Shep lives.

The Relays being destroyed is a different matter and, yes, it's a big deal. It would be like when you finish Railroad Tycoon if all the trains blow up - an integral part of the series, indeed the technology that the universe relies on to exist. You're right, we are mad at that bit as it makes no sense if more games set in the universe are on the way, as BioWare said.

[Wikkr]

akenn312 wrote...

Okay i'm not at all siding with the idiotic Bioware fanboy that thinks he understands what artistic integrity means but also we kinda have to understand that Bioware can't completely give into us too. Within the industry now they are seen as the company that made the worst ending in RPG video game history and has ruined one of the top grossing games in the industry.

That's really not good...

But If they changed it to Indoctrination theory or things suggested in the Nerd Rage videos they would now be considered the company that made the worst RPG endings in video game entertainment and also were too dumb to make their own ending and needed fans to finish it for them.

That's a lot worse...

Would any of us buy another game from Bioware if we had to finish their ending for them? I agree 100% with the understated nerd rage guy about whats wrong without he ending but I would never respect Bioware again if they did exactly what he suggests.

That's why I was hoping they had originally planned another ending but changed it at the last minute to this bad one because it would still be their idea and they could just put that in instead. That also could actually still happen too.

Big companies lie all the time about artistic integrity and morals. They are all about making money not art. They would not run a million dollar franchise into the ground just to keep their artistic integrity intact. Only a fool would beleive that. They just didn't think the ending was that bad and were wrong. Remember we are talking about the same company that came up with first day paid DLC.

An indoc ending would have explained the plot hole ridden ending (hell even a concussion woulda made sense) and restored my faith in bioware. hell they coulda played it clever and claimed it was the plan all along to release the real ending for free once the game had been released worldwide to avoid spoilers. theyd have gone down in history as making a bold gamble to try and preserve the ending of their game from spoilers

[Menalaos1971]

So, the entire point of this topic was another lie by Bioware? Should have known.

[Chrislo1990]

Clarifying this ridiculous ending will not fix the massive plot holes and questions it brings. It is not SALVAGEABLE! it does not fit with the overall plot of the franchise.How many threads do you need to understand this Bioware? How many youtube videos, ariticles, polls, tweets, etc do you need to understand that what we want are different endings where we can determine Shepard's fate thorugh our decisions, moral inclinationsm etc. We've been very vocal about this and for you to refuse the change or retcon the endings due "artistic integrity" is just insulting!. Especially when we've spent our valuable time pouring our hearts out to provide you with sound feedback so you can save your own franchise!

[Orion74205]

There is nothing I can say that hasn't been said before. Mass Effect was an epic, a story, a universe I have lived in through Shephards adventures. I have met, befriended and romanced an amazing selection of characters. There was no blaze of glory ending, it was a weak whimper of a finale that made no sense, did not fulfill and left nothing but a poor taste in the mouth of its viewing audience.

We were promised a solution - Lies to stall for time so that someones "Artistic" vision could be satisfied and carved in stone despite the obvious feeling of loathing it prompted for the majority.

"We are listening" - More lies to sate the tide of venom from the fan base that have been betrayed.

My opinion goes unread amidst the other 564 pages of similar posts, each voice going unheard by the people who claimed to be listening.

This is the only post on this forum I plan to make - Bio Ware/EA, they don't care what I or anyone has to say. I just wanted to say my piece, such as it is.

[Vyel]

LiarasShield wrote...

the dlc leak from pastebin maybe spot on I'm gonna do more checking into that mass shift

If Mass Shift is true, it will open up more questions than the DLC could possible answer. Either way, we're screwed and our choices meant nothing over the 3 games.

[Lak_Attack]

sinlessorrow wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Break their hold don't let them control you bioware their are better companies to work with then ea hell maybe bethesda would be more open to working with you guys and perhaps you guys wouldn't be reestrainted or so quickly to push stuff outdoor and be able to finish it for fans

Dont blame EA.

Not every game published by EA has a crap ending, BF3 and dead space are both EA gamrs and kept true to the game. This is all on bioware.

I don't know. I find it strange that Bioware's stuff has just been slipping over the years since their contract with EA.  The ending of ME3 was just so out of character for them. And if I may bring Dragon Age in to this, some are saying that DA2 wasn't even in alpha stage before it was released. It just doesn't match the behavior of the company we used to know and love. 

[Rafe34]

 Obviously, Bioware wasn't listening.

They weren't going, "How can we satisfy fans?" They were going, "How can we take the wind out of their sails enough to get rid of this storm with as little work as possible?"

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

and thanaos come pax and you're wrong and they don't provide the 16 promised endings or make our actions count towards the end does that mean your the guy we can all yell at for being wrong?

Trust me they can and will make the argument that they have with just
the variety of who is left at the end.  Not to mention the several
endings of not even getting to the catalyst. But the pin head shouldn't
have said that cause it caused expectation that they didn't meet. I never
expected it so it doesn't bother me. But that is a good reason not to
buy something from them if that's what you decide.

[Benchpress610]

NoirCZ wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
Most of us wanted

most of US? Have you seen the polls? About 200 players voted they are fine, 6k wanted clarification and over.. how much... 60 000 voted to get different endings, fill plotholes and such...

This guy is just a troll. Just ignore him.

[clarkusdarkus]

what is the point really of this thread now? lock it down lieoware!!

[LiarasShield]

hmm probably right either way anyone going to pax personally or going to upload the information here so we will know if they truely plan to help us or dig the knife a little deeper?

Modifié par LiarasShield, 05 avril 2012 - 06:05 .

[Alex_Dur4and]

Indoctrination proof!!

look at these segments

Blue ending - first minute. Total control of Sheppard. Ghost kid smirks (Illusive man's mistake)


Green ending - first minute. Assumed control of Sheppard through deception (Saren's mistake)


Red ending - first minute. No control of Sheppard. Ghost kid vaporized. Sheppard wakes up in rubbles of London
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7zY3WBT2q0

Just these facts are enough to have a 100% conviction that the last part of the ending, when Harbringer's eyes glow yellow during the final rush (Assuming Control), is an endoctrination attempt.

Enjoy!!!!

[Lilaeth]

Oh well, looks like they've saved me a lot of money, as I won't be buying anything of theirs ever again!

[Legion91]

What does bioware mean by artistic integrity???

[LiarasShield]

Anybody going to pax and can give us the info ?