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[Thanatos144]

RealStyli wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

garytwine wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

This thread is proof that most of you are mad cause Shep bites it in the end and the relays go boom. Cause if the extended cut is there to fill in the plot holes thats all that left to complain about. Well that and what that guy said that wasn't to bright.

For the love of God. Please... just... be... quiet. Don't  reply to every you don't agree with. Don't argue Black is White or that the Earth is flat.

You're like acting like a caracture of some character from a character TV show. "You don't want to do it like that, you should do it like this! Naaahhhhh! You were wrong and I was right. Naaahh nahhh neh naahhh nahhh."

Please, I would actually pay you to be quiet at this point.

I actually feel physically sickened by the news about the 'Extending cut'. I'm really not sure what to think anymore. Is this good, is this bad. Is this what indoctrination feels like...

I have and will reply to what I don't agree with anytime I like thank you
and don't really care that you think I should be silenced for not
thinking like you. I am not asking you to be silent. I am can , have ,
and will state my opinion as much as you will. If you don't like it don't
read it.

Except you're not making an informed argument. We respect your right to an opinion but, at the very least, read up on why people are angry at the ending before saying a blanket and mostly false statement.

We're not angry because Shep dies, we were told this was his/her last game so I think a lot of people assumed he/she would die. So I think you're wrong there. Plus, in the "destroy" ending, Shep lives.

The Relays being destroyed is a different matter and, yes, it's a big deal. It would be like when you finish Railroad Tycoon if all the trains blow up - an integral part of the series, indeed the technology that the universe relies on to exist. You're right, we are mad at that bit as it makes no sense if more games set in the universe are on the way, as BioWare said.

I am making informed posts. I am just making some you don't like. From
the start you all knew that the relays were traps made by the reapers so
it makes sense to me that they go with them.  I know most don't like it
but if you are only worried about plot holes then the extended cut should
fill those......If you are still upset then it isn't plot holes that's
bothering you is it?

[Reeeen0690]

I dont know where this 16 ending thing came from, there only appears to be 6 (3 Red, variation on earth being destroyed) (2 Blue, variation on earth being destroyed) (1 green) EMS only changes the minor variations and whether you get 1,2 or 3 choices.

Regarding this Extended Cut DLC
This was all I expected them to bother doing really, While I still wont be completely happy with the Starchild (for ruining plotlines of ME1) at least they are going to try filling in holes, extending and improving the ending we have.

Please explain how crewmates ended up back on the Normandy and why Joker was fleeing

Hopefully they'll also show what happens to some of the Characters like Jack/Grunt or what was happening in space with the Destiny ascension and Rachni and Quarians/Geth depending on your choices.

[jeweledleah]

babachewie wrote...

HAHAHA!!! RETAKE LOST! They aren't changing it. Good.

no dear.  you lost.  you and bioware.  becasue all these disapointed fans?  will take their money elsewhere.  and bioware, sadly will go the way of bullfrog, westwood, etc.

its tragic, really.

its funny.  I'm not even that big of a witcher fan.  I've yet to finish original game.  but I just watched GoG's life stream.  and last time i felt excitement like that was when Mass Effect 3 was anounced.  before all the misguided PR, etc.  so I shall give my oney to the companies that respect me and want to please their fans.

the companies that actualy HAVE artistic integrity.

[Squinty-Kat]

From a developer's perspective, I think this "Extended Cut" is the best decision they could have gone with. The fact is, whether people like the ending or not, what's done is done. For them to completely submit to the players and give them exactly what they want is unwise, and a slippery slope for their future games. If players grew accustomed to getting what they wanted by throwing a giant fit, then what point would it be for developers to pour their creative juices into making the game.

I respect the writer's visions for a story THEY created, not the players, but the writers. We are just along for the ride, and as much as we become involved in the story, it is still their story, and we have no right to demand that it be changed. I'm just as upset about the ending as everyone else, but with more clarity to the reasons behind it I think I can move on. No one loves this game more than the Mass Effect 3 development team. I think people forget that, and I'm sure all of this negative feedback is a huge blow for them.

If they went along with those completely plausible "indoctrination theory" it would be an easy fix, for sure, but the fact that they didn't come up with it will take away from the satisfaction. It's like when someone apologizes only when you demand it, it loses it's sincerity. I'm glad they they have decided to provide better closure with this DLC, and the fact that it's going to be free is even better. They are listening, and I support their decision fully.

[Rafe34]

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

and thanaos come pax and you're wrong and they don't provide the 16 promised endings or make our actions count towards the end does that mean your the guy we can all yell at for being wrong?

Trust me they can and will make the argument that they have with just
the variety of who is left at the end.  Not to mention the several
endings of not even getting to the catalyst. But the pin head shouldn't
have said that cause it caused expectation that they didn't meet. I never
expected it so it doesn't bother me. But that is a good reason not to
buy something from them if that's what you decide.

Several endings that don't involve reaching the catalyst? Getting killed by an enemy is not an "ending." Otherwise this game would have thousands of different endings!

[LiarasShield]

this is point blank which was said in the announcement

An official press release went out today announcing how we re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?
For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.



Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.



What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.



When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?
Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.



Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.



So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Be good to each other and Summer is coming...

[LiarasShield]

Bunch croak of horse**** lol

[Rafe34]

jeweledleah wrote...

babachewie wrote...

HAHAHA!!! RETAKE LOST! They aren't changing it. Good.

no dear.  you lost.  you and bioware.  becasue all these disapointed fans?  will take their money elsewhere.  and bioware, sadly will go the way of bullfrog, westwood, etc.

its tragic, really.

its funny.  I'm not even that big of a witcher fan.  I've yet to finish original game.  but I just watched GoG's life stream.  and last time i felt excitement like that was when Mass Effect 3 was anounced.  before all the misguided PR, etc.  so I shall give my oney to the companies that respect me and want to please their fans.

the companies that actualy HAVE artistic integrity.

Exactly. TW1 and TW2 have their flaws, but I have faith in CDPR. They were my favorite company even before this ME3 fiasco. They don't believe in DLC, they release extended cuts of their games for free, just a fantastic company.

[Thanatos144]

Suck you got to wait till summer....I was hoping two months... But like I said I have to have Patience.




By the way favorite part of the game is when grunt comes out covered blood asking if you had anything to eat....That is just cool.

[LiarasShield]

You didn't listen to fans at all the ending was what needed to be changed not adding on the the 3 ****** poor endings lol so redicioulous it isn't even funny

[Thanatos144]

Rafe34 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

and thanaos come pax and you're wrong and they don't provide the 16 promised endings or make our actions count towards the end does that mean your the guy we can all yell at for being wrong?

Trust me they can and will make the argument that they have with just
the variety of who is left at the end.  Not to mention the several
endings of not even getting to the catalyst. But the pin head shouldn't
have said that cause it caused expectation that they didn't meet. I never
expected it so it doesn't bother me. But that is a good reason not to
buy something from them if that's what you decide.

Several endings that don't involve reaching the catalyst? Getting killed by an enemy is not an "ending." Otherwise this game would have thousands of different endings!

It is an ending. Just not one anyone wants.

[LiarasShield]

and yes grunt was badass thats why imported him was awesome

[Mr.Clark]

 As long as these extended cutscenes actually resolve everything, then great. But I don't see how they can.

"Oh, when these Mass Relays exploded, they didn't wipe out all the solar systems they were in."
Ok.

"Oh, Joker zoomed in and picked up the companions I had with me when I was knocked out by the beam and left me there to go on alone"
Right, thanks, I guess.

"Oh, Joker ran away from the fight and got to the Mass Relay"
... Jeff? Why!?

The star kid.
... ok, fill your boots, I got nothing for this. Why were my choices "save everyone except EDI and the geth", "save everyone including the Reapers" at the cost of my life, or "Saren's 'we must become one'" lunacy.

And, let's face it, which of the flawed options was the "correct" choice? Because I honestly don't understand which choice was Paragon and which was Regegade.

[wharone]

It's an ending, but not to the Mass Effect series. Hell, it was like the people who wrote this were completely disconnected from the entire series and only jumped in at the last minute to impose their supposed "intellectual" vision on the fans.

[Keldon Northwind]

"On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening."
No, you did not. You shoot yourself in the foot - again - and now you are bleeding fans. Where it stops, well, I suppose a back alley and a shot to the head once EA is done with you. Like they did with Bullfrog, DICE, Westwood, etc.

Seriously, we told you what was wrong with the ending and you chose the wrong option to fix it.

If your artstic vision needs expanded upon, it has failed. If the ending needs explanation, it has failed.

[darkway1]

demonuswolfus wrote...

Ok, so to basically state the obvious...No Bioware you are nto listening...we don't care about the artistic integrity you all want to maintain...we want a flat out new ending. Not some poshy DLC that explains things...it's a plus, but not what we want...your just going to make fans mroe annoyed and angrier with this...oh and by the ways...

http://pastebin.com/ifPPbeTp

please give a response to this. If it's real you might as well just tell everyone about ti and appease the crowds.

Thank you for posting this......people need to read this,if it's true,then it restores my faith in the franchise.  

[ShinAnubisXIII]

So Bioware wasn't listening after all. You CANNOT clarify this plot hole creating atrocity consisting of colorful space magic <_< Not even with more space magic...

Since it's free, I'll give it a try and see what the writers tack on. However, I'm not expecting anything special.

To me, this proves Bioware is simply not up to it anymore. First Dragon Age 2 and now the 'ending' of ME3... Well, keep your games and pdlc in the future, I spent my money elsewhere Most preferrably NOT on any EA games...

[Chrislo1990]

jeweledleah wrote...

babachewie wrote...

HAHAHA!!! RETAKE LOST! They aren't changing it. Good.

no dear.  you lost.  you and bioware.  becasue all these disapointed fans?  will take their money elsewhere.  and bioware, sadly will go the way of bullfrog, westwood, etc.

its tragic, really.

its funny.  I'm not even that big of a witcher fan.  I've yet to finish original game.  but I just watched GoG's life stream.  and last time i felt excitement like that was when Mass Effect 3 was anounced.  before all the misguided PR, etc.  so I shall give my oney to the companies that respect me and want to please their fans.

the companies that actualy HAVE artistic integrity.

Very well said my friend!!!

[LiarasShield]

I think the only good thing ea has really done is bf3 other then that they are losing their magic espically after losing the lord of the rings license lol

[Fulgrim88]

Pray someone close this lie.

I feel stupid for having contributed

[Thanatos144]

Mr.Clark wrote...

 As long as these extended cutscenes actually resolve everything, then great. But I don't see how they can.

"Oh, when these Mass Relays exploded, they didn't wipe out all the solar systems they were in."
Ok.

"Oh, Joker zoomed in and picked up the companions I had with me when I was knocked out by the beam and left me there to go on alone"
Right, thanks, I guess.

"Oh, Joker ran away from the fight and got to the Mass Relay"
... Jeff? Why!?

The star kid.
... ok, fill your boots, I got nothing for this. Why were my choices "save everyone except EDI and the geth", "save everyone including the Reapers" at the cost of my life, or "Saren's 'we must become one'" lunacy.

And, let's face it, which of the flawed options was the "correct" choice? Because I honestly don't understand which choice was Paragon and which was Regegade.

I don't get why the AI bugs you so much.....They need something to
explain things to you about why things are how they are and that's how
they did it....I mean how hard is it to think there is a AI at the core
of the citadel that was activated by the crucible.

[Eryri]

LiarasShield wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Oh. Doesn't sound very promising. Oh well, lets see what they say at PAX tomorrow.

[LiarasShield]

hence why war of the north was made by some random ass company I never heard of until now lol

[LiarasShield]

An official press release went out today announcing how we re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?
For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey.



Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.



What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.



When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?
Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.



Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.



So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Be good to each other and Summer is coming...


If that is how things remain pax might not look too pretty tomorrow

[Amenthea]

If you take it that the 'ending' is Indoc, than the blue/green endings are correct if a little retarded; ie you fall at the final hurdle. However, if the Red ending, where you are clearly seen still breathing, is the only way our of the indoc sequence than it could be that the DLC shows what happens after you wake up, and may put you back to the point where you can kick butt and save the universe without it all going to crap and have a decent and happy ending. That way Bioware technically don't have to change the ending at all, but let us see a bit more of what follows and what we would like to see.

I've played all 3 games, and clocked up hundreds of hours playing the series (ME2 especially), and to get to the end of 3 and find that all of those choices from all 3 games doesn't actually mean a thing, and that millions die anyway isn't bittersweet but a total loss and complete failure of the mission. I would have just walked away if I was presented those choices....

I've not really played 3 since I 'finished' it, as the ending took the wind out of my sails and left me feel very sad indeed. I was expecting a big hollywood epic ending and got the reverse. I don't even want to go back and play any of the other games as what's the point? It doesn't mean anything as it all ends the same, with a whimper. I actually cried during some scenes in ME3, and to have all that buildup boil up to what we were given... its a shame. I don't know if I can trust Bioware now when it comes to their games as if they do produce another series I'll be expecting the same and so won't want to invest in characters etc.