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[ArenCordial]

You claim to be listening Bioware? Well you sure aren't hearing.

All this extended edition sounds like is a minimal cost/effort olive branch before you tell us to start buying your paid DLC.

Forget it. See if I'm listening when you start marketing your future products.

[darkshadow136]

I would like to add some more feedback about how to change the ending. Wait.......... I forgot you are not really listening, you are still defending the supposed artistic ending even though it is 90% plagiarism of Deus EX.

[blade12775]

So here is one theory on the ending. Makes total sense to me.

[eoinnx03]

LAWL TO THE OP.

[Whapa]

I'll check out the "clarification" but in all honesty, the tone of that Extended DLC post has convinced me that Bioware just isn't the great company it once was. Just one that apparently plagarizes others work and thinks that fans won't know the difference. I'll be spending my game money elsewhere, where I'm not treated as a cash grab.
Edit: what is the point of any content DLC(past the "extended")? It doesn't add to the ending, it doesn't change the ending, you still end up in one of the most crappy places in the galaxy.

Thanks for making all 3 games useless.

Reading that post again, with the whole "summer" thing, feels almost like they want to stop people from returning the game at this point. (My own speculation)

Modifié par Phyrex82, 05 avril 2012 - 09:05 .

[NoirCZ]

Norrin_Radd wrote...

This is definitely the most close minded bunch of people I've ever seen. You're given Mass Effect fans a terrible name. You're idea of a good game ending is Shepard fist fighting every reaper in the galaxy, and winning. BioWare had bigger things in mind. Sorry you didn't get it. I am pretty sure the DLC explanation will go over your heads as well.

This entire series went over most of your heads, it seems. The Reapers truly were beyond your comprehension, hahaha.

I would not mind if Sheppard died. For me it is not about that. I liked ending for Final Fantasy X and the main hero "died" (explaining would take a while) there, but it made sense for the player. For me, it really is that the ending is more or less the same, no matter what you did in the previous games plus illogical things. Like with the Geth. Red version, you destroy them, no free will for them. You controll them, again no free will for them. Synthesis... yeah that works, though I do not think cannon Sheppard would take that decision to change uncountable races of galaxy just like that. Renegade Sheppard maybe.
(I ignore the fact that red option is supposed to kill synthetic life, including cybernetic implants... does it target every electronic device? Or just device that is advanced to certain level? How about ship computers? If so then the races still in ships on Earth orbit do not have that many ways how to get anywhere... except for burning in athmosphere. If red option destroys synthetics and people with cybernetics, does controlling option mean that you get to control those too? If you mantain control after you disolve that is)
For me, it really does feel like a LOST, which they said it would not be like that.
And so on.

If they manage to explain Sheppards motivation on accepting Synthesis, good for them.
If they manage to explain why the Normandy is out of the fight, with my ground team on board, good for them.
How about Anderson? He said he followed Sheppard. Followed. and then he is in that control room sooner. I looked rather carefully and there was just one access way to that room... so he arrived later and got there sooner?
I do not care a bout how Illusive man got there. He could fly there and Reapers let him in that room since he was indoctrinated.
Reapers are killing biologic life to save it from death? If they manage to explain that, good for them.
Why destroying relays in synthesis option? A bit weird, considering it had a rather destructive effects. Unless Joker made the ship go so fast it broke up on it's own, which seems unlikely.

I will wait for the DLC, after all it should be for free as they said (though I think there is difference between SOME players felt unsatisfied and MOST players felt unsatisfied) so there is no harm in that for me.

Also, from your mocking "tone" of your post, I assume you perfectly get it, everything, every little detail and answer, so you might as well enlighten others, instead of this rather rude post.

Modifié par NoirCZ, 05 avril 2012 - 09:05 .

[vlherg]

Could someone fix the title of this thread please. The word "not" seems to have been missed out.

[Silverlionprime]

It is quite a shame. Really that the endings are so reviled--and yet nothing is being done to fix or change them. Artistic integrity? Sure, I can see that.

Unfortunately, artistic does not mean "good," and in this case I'm going to vote with my money henceforth and spend it on games who actually bother to create the experience I want.

EA/Bioware? Artistic or not, your still a company and want my money, sure its a few dollars here and there, but it does add up.

I hope you realize that being artistic does not mean it being good, or even entertaining, there is a reason people still buy games like Planescape: Torment, and Fallout I (despite their age) but in general it is because those were found to be good.

Good luck with your next game, I hope in the end your artistic designers learn something from this about how to tell a story.

[jeweledleah]

speaking of Fallout one....

guess what's free on GoG for the next 48 hours? www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout

I think I shall replay it, for old times sakes.. and to see my choices actually matter.

[dfdsgrgre]

jeweledleah wrote...

speaking of Fallout one....

guess what's free on GoG for the next 48 hours? www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout

I think I shall replay it, for old times sakes.. and to see my choices actually matter.

Hmm I think i shall as well

[Omnike]

jeweledleah wrote...

speaking of Fallout one....

guess what's free on GoG for the next 48 hours? www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout

I think I shall replay it, for old times sakes.. and to see my choices actually matter.

Are the endings color coded for me?

[T_l_M_B_0]

You claim to be listening yet all you offer us is this "Extended Cut" crap? F*ck no. Extended sh*t is still sh*t. You've lost me Bioware.

[garytwine]

secretsubscriber wrote...

garytwine wrote...

secretsubscriber wrote...

garytwine wrote...

I think, once the DLC is released and they start to tally up exactly how many people download it. Exactly how many people aren't happy with the ending in its current state, Bioware will have the shock of their lives. All of the people that don't use forums or don't speak up. They will be heard when they press download. I wouldnt be surprised if its in the hundreds of thousands. I really want to see those figures. Silent majority of people who liked the ending? I don't think so...

Geez, the number of downloads isn't going to tell anyone anything. Everyone is going to download it regardless of how they feel about the ending.

Yes, but by choice. Why would anyone, who liked the ending and has championed its cause want to download something that we, the vocal minority (according to some) have been fighting for since the games release? And don't say "because it's free". Anyone that berated us or looked down on us for our opinions would have to be a hippocrate to download it. 

Dude, really?
Its more Mass Effect content. Why wouldn't fans want to see more content? That's all. Plus, yes, its free.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm naive to think that other people will stand by their words. I just happen to believe that if you say something then you should mean it and stand by it.

Nothing is really ever free. There's always a price. We just don't see it yet.

[Sans Changer]

I am going to hold the line, and some hope, on this one. I never wanted the ending(s) changed, but clarification is good. Real endings AFTER the existing one (making use of the indoctrination theory) would be better, but maybe... just maybe BioWare can pull this off still.

[xaurabh123]

EA has brought doom for Bioware. They pretended to listen by creating this forum. Now all they can bring is some crap explanation DLC for the crap ending

[helloween7]

I'm very sad about the news of the Extended Cut DLC.

Sorry, BioWare, you have seen the last of my money.

[JacobNZW]

"Yes we are listening"... with your ASS!

[xaurabh123]

garytwine wrote...

secretsubscriber wrote...

garytwine wrote...

secretsubscriber wrote...

garytwine wrote...

I think, once the DLC is released and they start to tally up exactly how many people download it. Exactly how many people aren't happy with the ending in its current state, Bioware will have the shock of their lives. All of the people that don't use forums or don't speak up. They will be heard when they press download. I wouldnt be surprised if its in the hundreds of thousands. I really want to see those figures. Silent majority of people who liked the ending? I don't think so...

Geez, the number of downloads isn't going to tell anyone anything. Everyone is going to download it regardless of how they feel about the ending.

Yes, but by choice. Why would anyone, who liked the ending and has championed its cause want to download something that we, the vocal minority (according to some) have been fighting for since the games release? And don't say "because it's free". Anyone that berated us or looked down on us for our opinions would have to be a hippocrate to download it. 

Dude, really?
Its more Mass Effect content. Why wouldn't fans want to see more content? That's all. Plus, yes, its free.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm naive to think that other people will stand by their words. I just happen to believe that if you say something then you should mean it and stand by it.

Nothing is really ever free. There's always a price. We just don't see it yet.

I heard next thing they will bring mass effect 4 (mass shift?) with story time after one millenia of shepard. Surely I will not be the one to buy it. 

[Julius Remus]

Just finished the game.... kept swapping saves. It would have been better if Shepard died. But leaving him breathing means they can bring him out for another outing if they want. As a commercial decision that is prudent, As for all synthetic live destroyed. The ships in orbit are'nt AI controlled, So theoretically they should survive. Also the gates allow long distance travel. The ships in orbit can fly star system to star system. It would take a while, but they could theoretically get home. As for the Normandy. Now that was not thought out. They would never have abandoned the fight. Be interesting to see how bioware explains that off. But in passing thought. I hope liara has a child, after what her and shepard did... More than a slight chance I think..... Now can someone contact one of those thousand ships and get my burnt ass into a sickbay.

[Schanez]

To BioWare,

I must say, that the whole trilogy is magnificent. The waz you introduce the whole plot in ME 1 to the ending of ME 3. It's one of the few games that kept me involved not only physically but also emotionally. I didn't even realize how much. I watched how the Prothean message was geting clearer. Then I run an suicide mission to stop a mysticall race from the core of the galaxy. And then, at the begining of Mass Effect 3 I got crushed by the scene when the boy dies. It was the first time I started suspecting that I do really care about the people in the game. And then I run through the rest of the game grinning at the sight of the might force I gathered. And I did everything to stop the Reapers from killing another boy. That's what had driven me forward. And then, the Big Ending. First I was surprised. Then I was completely exhausted emotionally. It was a disaster. I knew it will be hard to win, but still... I do not think the endings are bad. They are... well... diferent from what I have suspected. There is but one thing that does not allow me to accept the way you ended the trilogy. You said, that our choices will matter. That whatever we have done throughout the previous parts will matter.

Mass Effect 1:
- Virmire mission, no actual impact, it's just the diference between Kaidan and Ashley face on Normandy, also if Urdnot Wrex lives or not also doesn't change anything; the only diference I can think of are the Racni;
- the body of Ms. Bathia, no actual impact throughout the whole saga;
- the geth-data given to Tali, no actual impact;
- Urdnot armour given to Wrex, no impact;
- Ranah Thenoptis ( misspelled? ) live or die, no actual impact;
- and I made Anderson councilor, not Udina, so what is he doing in the 3-rd part in the Council?

Mass Effect 2:
- Collectors base salvaged/destroyed, no actual impact, just some cut scenes diferences;
- Geth-base destroyed/rewriten, no impact, just an update in the Galaxy at War;
- Vito Santiago, lives or dead, no impact;
- actually any side mission choices are just cosmetics in dialogues;

Mass Effect 3:
- Geth joining the battle, no impact, just some more points;
- Racni joining the battle, again some pointsand funny massage;
- Quarians reclaim their homeworld, no impact;

That's what was most disapointing for me. I propably missed a lot of important choices we all made during the playthrough, sorry for that, but the idea is still the same, after all thih, after all we suffered to balance the situation between Quarians and The Geth, between Turians, Krogans, Salarians and Asari. After all this we have a choice between a total anihilation and a total destruction. It was really hard to make up my mind.
Let's now have a fast review of the plot after the ending. So we have most of the Council fleets stationed around the Earth. Which is actually a little bit wasted after the major attack. It is obvious that it won't be able to sustain delivering supplies to the whole fleet. So another war is just a matter of days. Also the only nation that can actually survive are Quarians, due to their Agroships which I think followed them in tha battle, the big round one in the movie. Even if we choose the synthesis the organic part of life still needs food. Another matter, the Relays. I can accept the fact that theyused all their energy to forward the impuls and thay actually just collapsed. How it was possible that there was no Awakening again I do not know, but it's acceptable. Then we have the whole Galactic trade and communication blown to nothing. I can accept the fact that the most brilliant minds of the whole galaxy are with the Crucible but still the Protheans where more advanced then we are in the game and they were still uncertain of ttheir relay technology. But wait, we have the debries of the old relay. The only question is, how to power the new one? If we stick to the laws of physics the energy is constant, so the one unleashed via the pulse must have gone somewhere. The other matter is that the relay was actually a small star, where do we take such energy from?
I know it's just wild imagining, but you must admit there is some truth in it too. I am curious what will you do with the endings. I have once found a nice alternative that is actually the ending I was looking for.
Click here, to see how it can end. I just felt that all I have done was totally pointless. And that's very, very frustrating.

With kind regards,
Demoniszcze.

[Dargus007]

I get it.

You're listening, but you just don't care.

Last dime you ever get from me.

[terrarone]

I feel like crying. It's like my heart is breaking all over again.

[Schanez]

Julius Remus wrote...

Just finished the game.... kept swapping saves. It would have been better if Shepard died. But leaving him breathing means they can bring him out for another outing if they want. As a commercial decision that is prudent, As for all synthetic live destroyed. The ships in orbit are'nt AI controlled, So theoretically they should survive. Also the gates allow long distance travel. The ships in orbit can fly star system to star system. It would take a while, but they could theoretically get home. As for the Normandy. Now that was not thought out. They would never have abandoned the fight. Be interesting to see how bioware explains that off. But in passing thought. I hope liara has a child, after what her and shepard did... More than a slight chance I think..... Now can someone contact one of those thousand ships and get my burnt ass into a sickbay.

Did I miss something? Shepard survived? There are three endings as far as I know. In synthesis and controll you get torn to particles, right? But in the third one the whole station still explodes, how are you ment to survive that? Or did I really miss something?

[Athlonis1]

you were not listening. This really is the final straw gorramit. I wanted to believe that you would fix this. Alas, you have chosen the dark side...

[RealStyli]

Demoniszcze wrote...

Julius Remus wrote...

Just finished the game.... kept swapping saves. It would have been better if Shepard died. But leaving him breathing means they can bring him out for another outing if they want. As a commercial decision that is prudent, As for all synthetic live destroyed. The ships in orbit are'nt AI controlled, So theoretically they should survive. Also the gates allow long distance travel. The ships in orbit can fly star system to star system. It would take a while, but they could theoretically get home. As for the Normandy. Now that was not thought out. They would never have abandoned the fight. Be interesting to see how bioware explains that off. But in passing thought. I hope liara has a child, after what her and shepard did... More than a slight chance I think..... Now can someone contact one of those thousand ships and get my burnt ass into a sickbay.

Did I miss something? Shepard survived? There are three endings as far as I know. In synthesis and controll you get torn to particles, right? But in the third one the whole station still explodes, how are you ment to survive that? Or did I really miss something?

Again, that's explained by the indoctrination theory!