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[jeweledleah]

TheDarkDefender wrote...

TsubakiYayoi wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

TsubakiYayoi wrote...

Before I forget. One question. Does anyone know what Anderson is refering to in the scene when he prevents Shepard falling into the hole in the house on the prologue? Shepard says thx I owe you one and Anderson says: More than one with a very serious voice. I can´t stop thinking that there is more to it.
When did Anderson really did anything crucial except giving me the command of the Normandy in ME1? I don´t think this refers to the Alpha Relay incident in any way. Thoughts?

kept alliance and council (along with Hackett) of Shepard's back throguh ME2.  potentialy gave back spectre status.  vouched for Shepard at a trial (remember that conversation in an intro?).

Yeah I remember but it sounded even more important than this. I don´t know maybe I read to much into this lol

You're not alone, I thought this was a very weird thing to say. He also says it if you weren't the one who destroyed the Alpha Relay.
Actually what really annoyed me about Anderson in ME3 was that later you find out from Traynor that the git was gonna nick your ship.

wellll, it was originaly his ship and Normandy IS special in how technologicaly advanced it is.  its also possible it was still going to be commanded by Shepard, Anderson would just be on board instead of staying behind in London.

on a different note, speaking of behaviors of those who like the endings vs dislike them

www.gamespot.com/features/who-wins-when-mass-effect-3s-ending-changes-6367380/

all I have to say is, this is just one more reason why I don't respect or listen to opinions of so called "professional" gaming media.

[prem0nition]

Quoted from another thread...

egnit wrote...

I was hit with anger after the ending. So I
kind of skipped all of the other steps and furnished my own ending.
Maybe I'll get around to another play-through and do my own renegade
ending too. Write your own ending and pretend the rest doesn't exist.

My Mass Effect 3 Ending

IMO that's a near perfect representation of how the "best" ending should have gone. This exactly what I expected of Bioware, with variation for the different romances, plot decision points etc, a cinematiics similar to the current low ems destroy ending and one for total failure and we'd have truly had an awesome game ending that we could crow about and call art.

Great job Egnit.

Modifié par prem0nition, 06 avril 2012 - 03:19 .

[pf17456]

magnetite wrote...

I will argue that the ending was too complex for the instant gratification crowd to understand. They wanted a simplified ending where they didn't have to think too much. Instead, they really had to use their brains and figure out what happened. That was too much for them to handle.The masses wanted a spoon fed ending where everything was just explained for them.

 
Over the past six years Mass Effect players have been led to believe that the resulting outcome(s) in the game were directly related to the choices made throughout. There is nothing complex about Mac Walters pulling a rabbit out of his hat, furthermore wanting multiple endings ranging from optimal to devastating contradicts a notion of instant gratification as relevant multiple endings based on prior decisions would mean multiple replays, a considerable amount of time and effort. The masses want what they have been promised and what they've paid for. 

[Thanatos144]

Still with the boohoo. Sorry you didnt like the ending.

[Bigbadbush]

A game that allows you to make the altruistic choice of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe? Absolutely fantastic. Thank you to all at Bioware for putting your heart & soul into this series. I'll keep it with me to the end of my days.

[Nitblade]

Can we please change the outright bold face LIE that is the title of this thread, with their last announcement on the "clarification" DLC they have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they DO NOT LISTEN to their customers

They have completely disregarded the cardinal rule in business "The CUSTOMER is always right"

[Thanatos144]

Nitblade wrote...

Can we please change the outright bold face LIE that is the title of this thread, with their last announcement on the "clarification" DLC they have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that they DO NOT LISTEN to their customers

They have completely disregarded the cardinal rule in business "The CUSTOMER is always right"

Yet they did listened. They just decided not to throw months and months of work out the window cause a few fans didnt get blue babies.

[Flamewielder]

Not throwing any more money on ME products, but I'll download the free DLC...

So here's what you need to retcon:

1) some way for the Mass Relays to self-destruct without taking the whole star system with them,

2) convert the remnants of the turian fleet into liveships so the whole thing can travel back to their homeworlds (it's gonna be a long flight people... get the hydroponics and cryoberths working!)

3) get rid of Starchild. Harbinger can offer a more logical (if ruthless) for converting advanced species into Reapers. He can offer the same RGM endings as Starchild but with sounder logic (from his/its point of view)

Nor retconnning the ending to eliminate plotholes is NOT what I want, but if that's all I'm gonna get, you might as well fix the 3 points I mentionned.

Sad that we didn't enjoy the same level of freedom of choice in our Shepard's story as we enjoyed the other 99% of the series.

[chassan1]

What we really should do is organize a class action lawsuit against Bioware for false advertisement and fraud. That ought to get their attention.

[Moirai]

Bigbadbush wrote...

A game that allows you to make the altruistic choice of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe? Absolutely fantastic. Thank you to all at Bioware for putting your heart & soul into this series. I'll keep it with me to the end of my days.

So where's the choice for not sacrificing my character? Oh, that's right. There isn't one.

All 'choices' lead to Shepard death, pretty explosion, Joker cowadice, relays destroyed.

So that's no choice whatsoever really.

Still, I'm glad you were happy with your perceived 'choice'.

[Thanatos144]

Flamewielder wrote...

Not throwing any more money on ME products, but I'll download the free DLC...

So here's what you need to retcon:

1) some way for the Mass Relays to self-destruct without taking the whole star system with them,

2) convert the remnants of the turian fleet into liveships so the whole thing can travel back to their homeworlds (it's gonna be a long flight people... get the hydroponics and cryoberths working!)

3) get rid of Starchild. Harbinger can offer a more logical (if ruthless) for converting advanced species into Reapers. He can offer the same RGM endings as Starchild but with sounder logic (from his/its point of view)

Nor retconnning the ending to eliminate plotholes is NOT what I want, but if that's all I'm gonna get, you might as well fix the 3 points I mentionned.

Sad that we didn't enjoy the same level of freedom of choice in our Shepard's story as we enjoyed the other 99% of the series.

Why do you guy insist that Harbinger be the one to do anything? Who is to
say Harbinger is even alive anymore? Why do we need space lawnmowers to
explain why they are made to do these things? What make you think they
even understand why they do these things? For some reason your guys hate of a AI made to explain things border on insane and way past absurd.

[res27772]

One does have to wonder to whom they were listening... or they just have VERY selective hearing.

[CorpralKarl]

If the horrible endings are here to stay (and I'll pray to the Asari Goddess that they're not), I want to see more of the races affected. I chose to destroy the Reapers because that had been my goal all along; I expected to see all the Geth and Edi drop dead at that moment. When they didn't I felt that major characters had been left out.

[Thanatos144]

chassan1 wrote...

What we really should do is organize a class action lawsuit against Bioware for false advertisement and fraud. That ought to get their attention.

You go right ahead and when it is thrown out of court you pay the lawyer fees.

[Thanatos144]

res27772 wrote...

One does have to wonder to whom they were listening... or they just have VERY selective hearing.

So in order to prove they are listening they have to do as you say?

[akenn312]

Kinda funny vid, I guess in some ways we can laugh at all this.

Modifié par akenn312, 06 avril 2012 - 03:59 .

[Darkmood76]

Well they might have listened but it's clear that they ignored what they heard. I guess EA did eat Bioware's soul after all. Here's to hoping that another gaming studio comes along sooner rather than later that can fill the shoes that the Old Bioware left behind when they got bought out.

[survivor_686]

Remove Starchild. Everything else makes perfect sense then.

[darthoptimus003]

chassan1 wrote...

What we really should do is organize a class action lawsuit against Bioware for false advertisement and fraud. That ought to get their attention.

if i could i would i have thought about it  but do you really think it would help

[Benchpress610]

jeweledleah wrote...

on a different note, speaking of behaviors of those who like the endings vs dislike them

www.gamespot.com/features/who-wins-when-mass-effect-3s-ending-changes-6367380/

all I have to say is, this is just one more reason why I don't respect or listen to opinions of so called "professional" gaming media.

So true!!...I'd like to post part one of the users replies (maxwell97):

"Gamespot editors, if we're going to compare Mass Effect to Beethoven, then let's imagine that Beethoven had wrapped up his ninth symphony with five minutes of developmentally-challenged howler monkeys banging on trash cans with baseball bats. If he had, I think it would be fair for the audience to point out that this segment of the work does not match either the style or quality of the rest, and that his artistic vision would, in fact, be best served by significant revision."

[jeweledleah]

Bigbadbush wrote...

A game that allows you to make the altruistic choice of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe? Absolutely fantastic. Thank you to all at Bioware for putting your heart & soul into this series. I'll keep it with me to the end of my days.

you mean, forces you?

DAO allowed you to make an altruistic CHOICE.

ME3 gave you no such choice.  all you got was a choice of HOW you die.  And all 3 "choices" resulted in leaving the world worse off then before you died.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 06 avril 2012 - 04:08 .

[Theronyll Itholien]

The fact that nobody from Bioware is replying to us means that they have had instructions from higher up not to do so. "Just let the whiners whine." or something similar was the comment that followed the instruction, most naturally.

Such behavior, folks, to people who make them exist; people that pay them hard money. Let that sink in. Let it.

[SekondaHuet]

Bigbadbush wrote...

A game that allows you to make the altruistic choice of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe? Absolutely fantastic. Thank you to all at Bioware for putting your heart & soul into this series. I'll keep it with me to the end of my days.

You're a moron who clearly didn't pay a single bit of attention to the lore of this game if you thought that the ending's glaring plotholes did any good to the universe. Everything, EVERYTHING died. 

[Thanatos144]

survivor_686 wrote...

Remove Starchild. Everything else makes perfect sense then.

So remove the AI that explains things cause you dont like the idea that a
race of machines have a AI?....I know I know space magic.....Like
Shepard living after falling to a planet in just a space suit isnt space
magic.

[Octopus_DK]

akenn312 wrote...

Kinda funny vid, I guess in some ways we can laugh at all this.

Made my day.