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[OneMore1968]

DLC: Extended Cut - At last!! Are we finally going to get the answers and closure to the large questions that this game leaves open. It was never really about changing the ending per se, rather explaining some of what happens to the galaxy following Shepard's choice. Whichever one you made. And also your squadmates who were still alive.

This is what you expect whether it be a book, film, series or game. I know you could argue that the rest is up to you to imagine but there are too many questions left unanswered.

But at least we have something with the DLC which they hope to release soon. And to all those people saying "Stop whining and get a life. ME3 is a great game". Well yes I agree, the whole series is. And imagine that most people on here loved that vast majority of the game - me personally about 90%. We will see whether the DLC can deliver that other 10% to make this series a true gaming epic. The Mass Effect trilogy is the only one which I keep going back to again and again (and I've played some classic games in 25 years of gaming).

Here's hoping....

[kingalexdarkoo]

HOLD THE WALLET

[LiarasShield]

I mean now that I'm calm for those who liked the ending then I'm happy you guys do but I just wish our actions ment something and even if your shepard doesn't live that the crew and the love interest would mourn your loss or a honorable funeral or even you know the crew making sure you were dead before fleeing the battle just some decent stuff that is all I just have no energy to fight anymore....

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

you blame others for not keeping a open mind but being a hypocrit won't help your case either and having ****** fits about people who played all 3 games who have worked hard to have their choices matter or for what they did those entire 3 games to matter in the final one is not a unreasonable thing to ask for espically when the makers themselves promised it would be

you can ask for whatever you want. They do not have to give it to you. I
am sorry you couldn't enjoy the ending that still doesn't mean I cant give
my input in things.  I state my opinion and NEVER call
someone stupid or a troll ( well unless they do the don't feed the troll
thing cause it is funny). I do have a open mind I just don't have agree
with the entitlement mentality.

[LiarasShield]

well I'm glad you like the ending just please understand while some may not other then shepard dieing and please accept that their is no point to all this fighting

[LiarasShield]

I am going to respect your opinon so please respect mine

[Benchpress610]

Bigbadbush wrote...

A game that allows you to make the altruistic choice of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe? Absolutely fantastic. Thank you to all at Bioware for putting your heart & soul into this series. I'll keep it with me to the end of my days.

No one here is opposed to “make the altruistic “choice” of sacrificing your character for the good of the game's universe”. It’s idealistic and beautiful. The problem is that there is no choice. All three alternatives result in similar outcomes.
 
Additionally, I fail to see what “good” would come out if it. Since in all three color-coded explosions all mass relays are destroyed, and according to “Arrival” we know what happens when a mass relay is destroyed: the whole planetary system where it’s located goes whit it. And don’t even try to interject here the theory of “controlled implosion”. As per game lore and codex there is no “controlled implosion” of a mass relay. This effectively will wipe out trillions upon trillions of individuals from every species making the oh so altruistic Shepard the biggest mass murderer in Galactic history. (Major plot hole)
 
As the least, all crews from the combined fleets will be stranded in the Sol system with no resources to sustain them, resulting in assured war between them. So there is what your altruistic sacrifice will accomplish.
 

[LiarasShield]

and also a decent question why would you get upset if they added better endings if they still keep the original ones for the fans that liked them?

[improperdancing]

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

you blame others for not keeping a open mind but being a hypocrit won't help your case either and having ****** fits about people who played all 3 games who have worked hard to have their choices matter or for what they did those entire 3 games to matter in the final one is not a unreasonable thing to ask for espically when the makers themselves promised it would be

you can ask for whatever you want. They do not have to give it to you. I
am sorry you couldn't enjoy the ending that still doesn't mean I cant give
my input in things.  I state my opinion and NEVER call
someone stupid or a troll ( well unless they do the don't feed the troll
thing cause it is funny). I do have a open mind I just don't have agree
with the entitlement mentality.

That's true.  They don't have to give me what I want.  But that road runs both ways.  If they don't decide to give me what I want, I can very easily decide to no longer give BioWare or EA my money.  

You see, Thanatos, there is this thing called an economy.  BioWare is a company within the economy.  They make games and we pay them for it.  If enough of us decide to stop paying them for the games they make, they are going to lose money.  If they lose enough money, EA will shutter them just like they have a dozen other once-great companies that started to crumble after EA purchased them.

And as of right now, BioWare has lost a customer (and not just me from the looks of these boards).  Their downfall is very clearly beginning with the awful handling of this whole ordeal, and their idiotic "artistic integrity" party line.

It's a shame, too, because they used to be such a great company that actually gave a crap about their customers.

[RIGELVINTO]

Favourite moment ?

Curing the genophage with the Krogan female alive, and shooting Udina ¡

[LiarasShield]

well when you make promises about game that you're making then have it turn out to be lies or half truths do you see why so many people could get angry and you know in other cases when you lie about a item or the item in question does not do what it was said that it was suppose to do is kinda like fraud which kinda is a crime but you know even though alot of are bent up and on a rage fit their are decent reasons for that it isn't like we are a souless mob or people who just hate something for no reason....

Modifié par LiarasShield, 06 avril 2012 - 04:50 .

[Thanatos144]

improperdancing wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

you blame others for not keeping a open mind but being a hypocrit won't help your case either and having ****** fits about people who played all 3 games who have worked hard to have their choices matter or for what they did those entire 3 games to matter in the final one is not a unreasonable thing to ask for espically when the makers themselves promised it would be

you can ask for whatever you want. They do not have to give it to you. I
am sorry you couldn't enjoy the ending that still doesn't mean I cant give
my input in things.  I state my opinion and NEVER call
someone stupid or a troll ( well unless they do the don't feed the troll
thing cause it is funny). I do have a open mind I just don't have agree
with the entitlement mentality.

That's true.  They don't have to give me what I want.  But that road runs both ways.  If they don't decide to give me what I want, I can very easily decide to no longer give BioWare or EA my money.  

You see, Thanatos, there is this thing called an economy.  BioWare is a company within the economy.  They make games and we pay them for it.  If enough of us decide to stop paying them for the games they make, they are going to lose money.  If they lose enough money, EA will shutter them just like they have a dozen other once-great companies that started to crumble after EA purchased them.

And as of right now, BioWare has lost a customer (and not just me from the looks of these boards).  Their downfall is very clearly beginning with the awful handling of this whole ordeal, and their idiotic "artistic integrity" party line.

It's a shame, too, because they used to be such a great company that actually gave a crap about their customers.

They still are a great company.

[Will Moor]

YendorN wrote...

I think Bioware wrote this into ME3; the tone throughout the story is bleak and contains strong elements of resignation and fatalism. Some forces are greater than even Commander Shepard. Our hero learns this lesson and is terrifically humbled.

With all due respect, I do not buy action and fantasy role playing games to be "terrifically humbled".  I get enough of that in real life.  lol

And an analogy of  human history's bloody and dark aspects is also not what I am set out to play when I buy these games.

I buy these games to temporarily escape life's crap and be the butt-kicking hero who "gets the girl" (in my case its the boy, however) and feel good for a few hours now and again.  Or all day long every once in awhile on a special weekend alone.   

[res27772]

@Thanatos144

And btw - I think you'll find that most fans are complaining about the ending not because they feel they themselves deserve a better ending (altho' it's a valid point after putting so many hours in to playing it), but because the GAME itself deserves a better conclusion. The Mass Effect series is an awesome set of games, there's no denying that, even ME3 is awesome.. up until the ending... when you get such a pile of tripe at the end of many hours worth of awesome gameplay, people are bound to be mystified, angry... pick your word... and whatever other emotion comes up.

So... the majority of people, well fans, just want the end to live up to what's come before it, and it simply doesn't. Berate us for it if you wish, but it doesn't change the FACT that BioWare dropped the ball in spectacular fashion on the goal line - and now with their solution they're going to score an amazing own goal.

[LiarasShield]

just please try to understand why alot of us are mad without the random insults lol

[Freedom1]

^This. enough said. 

[LiarasShield]

but yeah anyone know what channel they might talk about pax on?

[Benchpress610]

improperdancing wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

you blame others for not keeping a open mind but being a hypocrit won't help your case either and having ****** fits about people who played all 3 games who have worked hard to have their choices matter or for what they did those entire 3 games to matter in the final one is not a unreasonable thing to ask for espically when the makers themselves promised it would be

you can ask for whatever you want. They do not have to give it to you. I
am sorry you couldn't enjoy the ending that still doesn't mean I cant give
my input in things.  I state my opinion and NEVER call
someone stupid or a troll ( well unless they do the don't feed the troll
thing cause it is funny). I do have a open mind I just don't have agree
with the entitlement mentality.

That's true.  They don't have to give me what I want.  But that road runs both ways.  If they don't decide to give me what I want, I can very easily decide to no longer give BioWare or EA my money.  

You see, Thanatos, there is this thing called an economy.  BioWare is a company within the economy.  They make games and we pay them for it.  If enough of us decide to stop paying them for the games they make, they are going to lose money.  If they lose enough money, EA will shutter them just like they have a dozen other once-great companies that started to crumble after EA purchased them.

And as of right now, BioWare has lost a customer (and not just me from the looks of these boards).  Their downfall is very clearly beginning with the awful handling of this whole ordeal, and their idiotic "artistic integrity" party line.

It's a shame, too, because they used to be such a great company that actually gave a crap about their customers.

Psst....don't feed the troll

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

just please try to understand why alot of us are mad without the random insults lol

I never insulted you.

[darky00]

PAX in 2 hours right ? Still wanna see how they handle the massive frustrated fanbase.

[LiarasShield]

we may lose the battle in me3 but their is no reason for the fanbase as whole to have a war against each other in the forums you loved the endings or you don't can we just accept that we have different thoughts about it...?

[RenaldGath]

Whoo extended cut... well even though it's not a new ending, I'm still gonna buy some points to encourage this kind of behaviour. I have faith, Bioware don't let us down !

[LiarasShield]

then ok I thought during one of our convos yesterday that you did if not then sorry thanatos

[Thanatos144]

res27772 wrote...

@Thanatos144

And btw - I think you'll find that most fans are complaining about the ending not because they feel they themselves deserve a better ending (altho' it's a valid point after putting so many hours in to playing it), but because the GAME itself deserves a better conclusion. The Mass Effect series is an awesome set of games, there's no denying that, even ME3 is awesome.. up until the ending... when you get such a pile of tripe at the end of many hours worth of awesome gameplay, people are bound to be mystified, angry... pick your word... and whatever other emotion comes up.

So... the majority of people, well fans, just want the end to live up to what's come before it, and it simply doesn't. Berate us for it if you wish, but it doesn't change the FACT that BioWare dropped the ball in spectacular fashion on the goal line - and now with their solution they're going to score an amazing own goal.

I dont think you are the majority. My opinion. I also dont think just
cause you are not happy they need to change all their hard work. People
talked about plot holes and it not making sense so they decided to make a
extended cut (which by they way they didnt have to do) and next thing
we know it isnt about plot holes and making sense of the ending it is
all about making a ending specifically for therm.

[LiarasShield]

well thanatos is all respect people talked about wanting a better ending before the extended cut was even mentioned