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[Chrislo1990]

Right. In attempting to add clarification they will make the current endings seem even more implausible. They are beyond saving Bioware! Man the size of their ego is incredible! Humility is a foreign word to them.

Hold the line guys! Stay strong!

Modifié par Chrislo1990, 06 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[Subject Alpha]

"Yes, we are listening"
.... Obviously not.

[TreguardD]

Lemmie go White Men Can't Jump.
You're listening. But you're not hearing.

Why is Action Heroine Shepard now Starry Eyed Barbie?

[Versus Omnibus]

Subject Alpha wrote...

"Yes, we are listening"
.... Obviously not.

[sdinc009]

I'm sorry to say that I truly feel like I wish I never bought my first copy of Mass Effect 1 all those years ago. Never knowing would have been better than going through all this crap. Never experiencing the Mass Effect universe at all would be better than having get totally and utterly devastated. Way to go Bioware you made a masterpiece and in a few short minutes you turned it to crap. I can't bring myself to play any of them now. Thank you, I hope your "artistic integrity" was worth it.

[LittleBlueChildrenNow]

 YOU ARE NOT LISTENING. ADMIT IT!! BIOWARE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THEIR CUSTOMERS!!  Do you read that or I need biggest letters???

[captainsavvy]

When I played ME1 I couldn't put it down.
When I played ME2 I started my second playthrough immediately after the credits rolled.
When I played ME3... I got as far as the Rannoch missions.

I was curious about the endings and as I don't have as much free time as I used to, I wanted to get as much 'right' as I could first time. I saw all the threads on the disappointment at the ending, so I went to youtube and watched them. I thought that maybe people were just over reacting, but the more people vocalised their displeasure, and the more I thought about it, the sooner I realised that I wouldn't get to give all my Shepards the send off they deserved. And by that I don't just mean happy. Sure I'd like my canon femshep to survive, but I also wanted my renegade maleshep to be able to completely balls up and have the Reapers win.

But the real clincher was finding out that I'd never get to see the extra 'Breath' scene at the end as I have zero interest in anything multiplayer and/or Apple products.
I have effectively been forbidden from experiencing a portion of the SP campaign by the inclusion of the MP-based Galactic Readiness.
THAT does not sit well with me.
AT ALL.

My Shepard currently sits on the Normandy orbiting Rannoch and has done for the last 4 weeks.
I no longer care about the Genophage cure, or if the Quarians and Geth ever get along because I know that ultimately none of my choices have any bearing on the ending.
As it stands, I cannot see myself ever loading up any of my other Sheps because the possible endings are simply not varied enough to make it worthwhile.

And it HURTS. ME3 had been a joy to play, and I truly cared about every aspect of the universe.
I have lost all desire to play. On my FIRST playthrough. Congrats Bioware, that's a first for me. 

Modifié par captainsavvy, 06 avril 2012 - 11:21 .

[luci90]

sdinc009 wrote...

I'm sorry to say that I truly feel like I wish I never bought my first copy of Mass Effect 1 all those years ago. Never knowing would have been better than going through all this crap. Never experiencing the Mass Effect universe at all would be better than having get totally and utterly devastated. Way to go Bioware you made a masterpiece and in a few short minutes you turned it to crap. I can't bring myself to play any of them now. Thank you, I hope your "artistic integrity" was worth it.

Almost the same reason I don't get into relationships anymore.

Always ends badly for me, and this one was no different.

Modifié par luci90, 06 avril 2012 - 11:18 .

[StillOverrated]

Mastone wrote...

StillOverrated wrote...

Cant Planet wrote...

There's nothing new for them to hear at this point. They're feeding the controversy.

...Is this some sort of "there is no such thing as bad publicity" thing? Or do they genuinely think that our problem with the ending is "Oh, they don't understand the sheer brilliance and depth of it, so we'll have to explain our bull**** ending while calling them stupid every step of the way."

They are like all big American companies they only care about getting new sales, they simply made an economic choice, they calculated how much potential new sales are still to be expected, laugh away critisism as long as they can,.
They also know that a lot of people will buy DLC .

I will put it in caps to emphasize it once more, maybe we all need to type in CAPS, it could be that the letters were to small for them to read our feedback:
BIOWARE DOESN'T CARE, THEY ALREADY HAVE OUR MONEY, NOW THEY'RE CHASING NEW MONEY

How much will they sell when people start realizing they just don't give a crap?

[Talgor The Teribble]

OH yeah i almost forgot to mention that im considering giving myself cancer so i can make a wish with make a wish foundation. Guess what my wish would be. Thats right i would wish to be Neo from the matrix. Why you may ask? Because as Neo i could enter Mass effect 3, kill the kid that looks like a space ghost, tell shep to get ahold of himself, fly out and destroy the reapers with my awesome matrix powers, tell harbinger to take a hike, pick up liara and make some more blue babies, and then i'd ask Hackett why the alliance spent what i can assume was billions upon billions building a device they had no idea what it did and had been built by multiple other races before but never had destroyed the reapers when instead the alliance could have built a hundred or so dreadnoughts instead. I assume he would probably just shrug because he honestly had no idea why due to plot wholes.

[VicVonShroom]

StillOverrated wrote...

epicalus wrote...

stellap20 wrote...

So what did they say at PAX for a whole hour?

the only thing i walked away with was.
we are appearantly not giving enough feedback .

What? Six hundred pages of people complaining about the exact same thing is "not enough feedback"? Are you kiddin' me?

Yes it's six hundred pages but of the same complaint over and over. You say it's implausible but offer no reasonable solution. a new ending isn't a solution, you have to deal with what was given to you. Why don't you offer real feedback instead of saying the same paragraph about implausibility and bad writing when you offer nothing other than "I didn't like it because it doesn't fit with series!" or "We hate the god kid!" EXPLAIN how they can fix this. I get the reaction about the crew. That's legitimate, the other **** is easily repairable with more clarification and an epilogue so you could see how your choices made a difference in the galaxy. 

Modifié par VicVonShroom, 06 avril 2012 - 11:24 .

[XwebraiderX]

3 years of decisionmaking for teh lulz. if you played ME1-ME3 blindfolded the end would have been exactly the same. Thats just disgusting. And they lied to us,saying "we wont give you an ending where you choose between A, B and C".

F**** you. Really. F*** you.

[ragnorok87]

i am going to give myself a deadly disease and going to the wish foundation. my wish will be to get a decent mass effect 3 ending without all those plotoles and an ending that actually fits with the series.

[XwebraiderX]

VicVonShroom wrote...

StillOverrated wrote...

epicalus wrote...

stellap20 wrote...

So what did they say at PAX for a whole hour?

the only thing i walked away with was.
we are appearantly not giving enough feedback .

What? Six hundred pages of people complaining about the exact same thing is "not enough feedback"? Are you kiddin' me?

Yes it's six hundred pages but of the same complaint over and over. You say it's implausible but offer no reasonable solution. a new ending isn't a solution, you have to deal with what was given to you. Why don't you offer real feedback instead of saying the same paragraph about implausibility and bad writing when you offer nothing other than "I didn't like it because it doesn't fit with series!" or "We hate the god kid!" I get the reaction about the crew. That's legitimate, the other **** is easily repairable with more clarification and an epilogue so you could see how your choices made a difference in the galaxy. 

Are you high man? All your decisions up to this point mean ****. IT DOESNT MATTER what you did in alle the years before. 3 endings. Left, middle, right. For all of us. You serious?

[Abraham_uk]

captainsavvy wrote...

And it HURTS. ME3 had been a joy to play, and I truly cared about every aspect of the universe.
I have lost all desire to play. On my FIRST playthrough. Congrats Bioware, that's a first for me. 

Shepard! This hurts you!

[Talgor The Teribble]

Hey BioWare do you know that your fans hate the end of mass effect 3? Do you care?

[epicalus]

seriously ?
you want me to write an ending for me3 .
don't go where you shoulden't be .
i'll do it if you really want me to .
hell i could prolly extend the game for another 2-4 hours with the stuff i've already come up .
IF they would just ****ing adopt the indoctrination theory .
then they can keep the excriment they call an ending .

Modifié par epicalus, 06 avril 2012 - 11:29 .

[VicVonShroom]

XwebraiderX wrote...

VicVonShroom wrote...

StillOverrated wrote...

epicalus wrote...

stellap20 wrote...

So what did they say at PAX for a whole hour?

the only thing i walked away with was.
we are appearantly not giving enough feedback .

What? Six hundred pages of people complaining about the exact same thing is "not enough feedback"? Are you kiddin' me?

Yes it's six hundred pages but of the same complaint over and over. You say it's implausible but offer no reasonable solution. a new ending isn't a solution, you have to deal with what was given to you. Why don't you offer real feedback instead of saying the same paragraph about implausibility and bad writing when you offer nothing other than "I didn't like it because it doesn't fit with series!" or "We hate the god kid!" I get the reaction about the crew. That's legitimate, the other **** is easily repairable with more clarification and an epilogue so you could see how your choices made a difference in the galaxy. 

Are you high man? All your decisions up to this point mean ****. IT DOESNT MATTER what you did in alle the years before. 3 endings. Left, middle, right. For all of us. You serious?

Your decisions mean something, they make up 98% of the game or were you not paying attention, damn near every plot line is finished and shut before the end. This argument is bull**** since your choices decides who lives and dies, whether you cure the genophage and if the geth make peace with the quarians. That geth/quarian storyline is the only one really affected by the ending as that storyline would seem pointless if it was the truth that no matter what organics are doomed to repeat their mistakes. I'll give you that choice fine. But the endings were designed to appeal to a newer audience and the old audience. They're working on at least something to appease you, maybe after the extended cut, the endings won't be so dumb. But we won't know until they're released.  So shut up and wait because you don't know what the extended cut will be and until it comes out, be happy they're doing something.

[jeweledleah]

http://twitter.com/#...386782042324992

old tweet, but... its not bioware per se that doesn't want to admit they made bad writing choices. its people conspicuously missing from that PAX panel.

results of panel.. not unexpected.

oh well. I still have plenty of older games to play and with the way indy development is going? pretty sure by the time Im done, there will be new games for me to enjoy, made with actual integrity.

[StillOverrated]

VicVonShroom wrote...

StillOverrated wrote...

epicalus wrote...

stellap20 wrote...

So what did they say at PAX for a whole hour?

the only thing i walked away with was.
we are appearantly not giving enough feedback .

What? Six hundred pages of people complaining about the exact same thing is "not enough feedback"? Are you kiddin' me?

Yes it's six hundred pages but of the same complaint over and over. You say it's implausible but offer no reasonable solution. a new ending isn't a solution, you have to deal with what was given to you. Why don't you offer real feedback instead of saying the same paragraph about implausibility and bad writing when you offer nothing other than "I didn't like it because it doesn't fit with series!" or "We hate the god kid!" EXPLAIN how they can fix this. I get the reaction about the crew. That's legitimate, the other **** is easily repairable with more clarification and an epilogue so you could see how your choices made a difference in the galaxy. 

WE HAVE.
Either get rid of the reaperkid or make us be able to reject his ****** logic, just like we did with TIMmy and the Collector base, and let our War Assets win or lose us the fight.
Stick to your already established characters. Why did Joker leave the battle for no reason? How did the people that were in the final run with Shepard appear in the Normandy, again? I made Shep romance Garrus. Why would he just up and leave her there?

Make my war assets DO SOMETHING. You know. Krogan ground forces fighting, the Destiny Ascension and Geth dreadnoughts downing a damn Reaper. Asari commandoes doing what they do best. All that good stuff that made the Suicide Mission tense, engaging and just overall awesome.

Stop trying to shoehorn themes that weren't there in the first place. What? Did someone pick up a goddamn nineties comic and decide that "DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!! This **** is AWESOME! Self-sacrifice is the ONLY way to end a story! We should totally DO that! I mean, it's not like ME is about freedom of choice or anything!"

Fix your damn plotholes! Or better yet, go back to the Dark Energy idea. It was a hell of a lot better than what we have now.
You either haven't read any of the comments or just want to pick a fight with someone. I'm leaning towards the latter.

[gongtow]

I want a new ending with whole alliance fleets to blast the reaper off to black hole. I want Shepard kick the damn reaper to the beam and say bye bye to it. Bioware can simply create a poll for fans to vote the best ending.
You have your own happy ending from story director and boss. Now, write another happy ending for your fans.

[OneMore1968]

VicVonShroom wrote...

Your decisions mean something, they make up 98% of the game or were you not paying attention, damn near every plot line is finished and shut before the end. This argument is bull**** since your choices decides who lives and dies, whether you cure the genophage and if the geth make peace with the quarians. That geth/quarian storyline is the only one really affected by the ending as that storyline would seem pointless if it was the truth that no matter what organics are doomed to repeat their mistakes. I'll give you that choice fine. But the endings were designed to appeal to a newer audience and the old audience. They're working on at least something to appease you, maybe after the extended cut, the endings won't be so dumb. But we won't know until they're released.  So shut up and wait because you don't know what the extended cut will be and until it comes out, be happy they're doing something.

Have you actually played the other two Mass Effect games? 

[ShelkartMarne]

In all of these replies, this is *bound* to have been posted at least once, but I just wanted to point some more attention to this Google Doc where people are putting together a list of some of the harder-to-make-sense-of issues with the ending. It may already be too late, but I'd sure love it if the DLC could knock at least a few of these items off the list.
(Warning: the Indoctrination Theory is apparently pretty popular with some-but-not-all of the editors, so the doc comes off a little weird on that issue.)

[TheFragCzar]

Sail ME off into the sunset and get working on DA3. And make it good -- like DAO good. And bring back Claudia Black!