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[SquareBomb]

Greedy BioWare: We love money. How can we make more?
BioWare Lackey: Got it, charge $10 for something on the disc.
Greedy BioWare: What else?
BioWare Lackey: Incorporate co-op, make people think they will achieve a great ending by playing and charge more money for extra races and weapons!
Greedy BioWare: That is good, but what else can we do now that this is the end?
BioWare Lackey: Come up with a completely unsatisfying ending and once everyone has finished the game we can offer a DLC that gives the actual ending. They will pay anything to play through the actual ending!
Greedy BioWare: Great. While we wait for many people to finish the game, I say we troll the fans by asking them about the "ending" and play dumb.

I am done with this. Like so many others, I was looking forward to replaying the whole series to get the ending I wanted. I know ME2 had that effect on me. I realized what choices I could make in ME and how they had an effect on ME2, so I replayed both and it was great. I enjoyed some of the DLC that offered a prologue to the next game, but then we get to ME3 and instead we're ripped off. The DLC is simply game content that they made us pay extra for, the co-op, while it may be fun, is just another chance to rake up the money, and the ending completely craps on any character building we worked towards.

This ending reminded me of the Eragon series a bit. It starts off great, gets even better and then hits a rocky bit on the last installment. "That's okay," you tell yourself, "it is still overall a great." Then you arrive at the end where you are completely crapped on. I never expected the same from this game series. I thought for sure the ending was going to be romanticized and exactly what I wanted. Wrong. Good thing I didn't waste my whole spring break on this so that I can end on a positive note with Skyrim or something else.

[saracen16]

I LOVED the entire game, ESPECIALLY the end because it raises so many questions for me as to how the species I saved and people I helped will fare in a post-Reaper galaxy, one without mass relays. It hits me at an almost intellectual level. Were the Reapers right all along? Did they want to save us from synthetics? Given its perceived fallibility, was the Catalyst a god or an AI with a god complex? Thank you, BioWare. I want you all to know that you've done yourselves proud with this trilogy, and that I truly enjoyed it from start to finish. I will never forget the Mass Effect experience... ever. The whole game has been a memorable ride from start to finish, and I applaud you with a slow, emotional clap.

As for my favorite moments...

- Kaidan joining up with my squad again, on Mars and after the Cerberus plot

- The Council actually listening to me for once

- Meeting up and conversing with Primarch Victus... and Garrus!

- Seeing Tarquin Victus sacrifice himself... had me shaking my head in disbelief

- Emerging out of the catacombs on Tuchanka into the BEAUTIFUL City of Ancients... I was just... awestruck!

- Wrex calling me... his brother... *sniff*, and the genophage cured at the cost of Mordin's life... double *sniff*

- Conversations with Wrex, Garrus, and Liara on Sur'Kesh, on salarian livers and new Shadow Brokers (yummy and funny, regardless of what Liara thinks, lol)

- Conversations with all characters on the ship: they were so well done, ESPECIALLY Garrus's (the cold calculus of war, Turian culture, etc.)

- Arriving on Rannoch at night: the scenery was BEAUTIFUL

- The Geth consensus was so well done... and creative

- Fighting the Reaper on Rannoch was epic, and seeing the Quarians and Geth cooperate brought a tear to my eye: beautifully done

- Every single mission in the game is memorable, but the one mission I will ALWAYS remember is Thessia: the level design was absolutely stunning, and the symbolism involved in the temple (religion being put in question at the Temple of Athame the Prothean!) as well as the Reaper overshadowing us with a few rays of light coming from Parnitha, the system's sun, symbolizing hope making its way through the Reaper apocalypse. Even that convo with Vendetta - that the cycles are repetitive and not merely due to chance, and finding out that there was a bigger power than the Reapers behind all this - is TERRIFYING and HAUNTING. Beautifully done. Just wish it could use a bit more music though.

- Paying back that slippery bastard Kai Leng his due for killing Thane... that son of a ****.

- Seeing Harbinger in front of me for the first time... I never realized that he really IS the largest of the Reapers until you see him standing so intimidatingly tall against the comparatively tall support beams of the conduit beam.

- Walking through the Citadel in horror, and seeing that indoctrinated fool who calls himself the Illusive Man walk through it unfazed. Killing him was the icing on the cake.

- The conversation with the Catalyst. I felt that the Catalyst was some sort of AI with a god complex that was most definitely fallible. It's conclusion was that organics tend towards organic singularity where they would produce synthetics that will eventually rebel and kill all organics... and believed that preserving life in Reaper form was the way to go. To think that this mistake has been going on for over 37 million years... is downright nightmarish and scary. When he said that, it shook me to the core.

- The Ending, because it raises so many questions. If I destroyed all synthetics, what would the quarians do without the geth? If I synthesized synthetics and organics together, how will the geth-quarian relationship change?

Amazing. Absolutely amazing.

Thank you, BioWare.

[ecarden]

Souris wrote...

For those of you who continually say "the ending ruined the entire game for me" I propose an analogy for you:

Lets say you go to an amusement park with your friends. The day is awesome, you get to the front of the line for every ride, the weather is awesome, theres great food. But, at the end of the day, you spill coffee all over your favorite white shirt. Does the bad thing happening at the end of the day ruin the rest of it? No. Does the ending of this game that most (not all, including myself) people dislike, ruin the rest of the experience? No. You're being entirely over dramatic and emotional.

The "poor" ending to the game changes NOTHING about the journey getting there, nothing about the writing, the dialogue, the choices, storytelling, characters, absolutely nothing is changed. How you can let 5 minutes destroy 30+ hours of quality emotional story is beyond me. The story and gameplay was stellar, my props to BioWare for delivering, and I apologize for all of the crap being flung your way.

A different analogy: Instead of coffee, it's blood, because a serial killer just killed all your friends.

Yeah, you had fun until then, but when you describe the day, does it really go: I was having a lot of fun until everyone died, or does the death of everyone sort of taint the rest of the day for you?

[Dandermifflin]

Thank you very much for atleast listening to us BW =) As for my favourite moment, well, i say that about entire game xept last 10-15 min starting from Shep waking up after harbringer knocked him out

[Beatup]

Just finished the first playthrough and i must say i'm impressed. I have been hooked on the series ever since the first game and was affraid the third couldn't live up to its legacy. I tought it was awsome how previous decisions had an effect trough the hole game expecially during the geth/quarian missions.

I had a hard time getting into the game. The beginning felt a little clumsy with alot of cutscenes and dialogs but when past the first hour i completely forgot about this. 

The ending was confusing and down right disappointing, (pointed out very well in this article http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/ ) , and if the aim was to leave it open to interpretation i would have prefered to see the ending cinimatic end after the citadel explodes followed by the "Rubble Clip" after the credits.  And why the AI? Why not a magic toothpick? 

Modifié par Beatup, 15 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[Zazabi]

This unit have soul ?
The answer is yes ...
Sheperd pick the Red choice at the end
what's the point for legion's death ?

[Catroi]

Xerkysz wrote...

Bradeh wrote...

BioWare trying to indoctrinate us, resist.

You are one of the rare people who wern't indoctrinated by the Gods of RPGs?
Welcome to the front line.
Take a seat, crack open a nice cold one and SOMEONE PASS ME MAH POPCORN!

This is funny because with everyone giving their feedbacks here they have effectively removed us from public space, tere will be less comments on twitter and all and the media will say that the movement died away.
meaning jackpot for Bioware and the rEApers

[Flamewielder]

Too many fantastic moments to list. Only the endings kept me from calling ME3 perfect.

As I said in another post: I still have money to spend on DLC guys... but only if you make that DLC mean something as far as achieving a more satisfying end than the ones we currently have.

More choice, my friends. More possibilities. I don't mind bleak or bittersweet, as long as it's my choice and not limited to whatever the writer decreed. A game like Mass Effect is NOT a novel or a movie, or a painting. It is an INTERACTIVE form of art and entertainment. The final result MUST include player input.

[sadako]

Bradeh wrote...

Nice find!

[Tony Redgrave]

Faraborne wrote...

*snip* 3 gigantic walls of text.

Thank you for your ability to word your emotions so well. 
What you said also reflect so much of how I feel about the endings.

The end of Mass Effect should be the moment that cements Mass Effect as the one of the best game trilogies of all time.
I don't want to see the amazing Mass Effect experience rememberd as the trilogy that was ruined by these atrocius endings.

[NJ930]

I loved almost all of it. One of the best scenes in my opinion is the last scenes with Legion after you establish peace between the Quarians and the Geth. His exchange with Tali was touching. Mordin's death was also powerful. There's many other scenes throughout the whole trilogy I loved as well.

I honestly felt the entire game (and trilogy) was superb apart from the ending.

[eoinnx03]

I want little blue babbies....Not everyone dead at the end, or going to die starving on Earth. Basicly I don't want the end of ME3 to be ''The Road''

[DolphinMasterBubs]

I love the entire game. The endings left more questions than answers, but I loved the game in general. On my New Game+ playthrough now and still enjoying ME 3.

Favorite moments of ME 3: The renegade option for Kai Leng at the end of the boss battle at Chronos Station. He had it coming for killing one of my favorite characters in the series. I also liked it when Anderson praised you for your hard work at the end... before he passes on D:

[Zifania]

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Show of virtual hands...how many of you have a handful (or more) of potential Shepards that you originally intended to import into ME3 but now wont all because of the ending?

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Raised... 

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Same. 

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(raises hand)

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Raises hand....

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Raises hand for all current and future shepards.
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*raises hand*

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Add me too.

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My hands are so raised.




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Raising my hands, but not yet my Shepards[/quote]

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just give us a honnest awnser on the ending did you f'd up or is there something comming i think you guys f'd up[/quote]WE DONT WANT A DISSCUSSION WE WANT A DIFFRENT ENDING
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WE DONT WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR FAVORITE MOMENTS WE WANT A DIFFERENT ENDING THAT DOESNT CREATE PLOT HOLES BIGGER THAN GOATSE AND WE WON'T PAY FOR IT

[RedWulfi]

Loved every second.. until the ending.

[Getorex]

Painis Cupcake wrote...

AndrewHag wrote...

This game was one of the best I had ever played. Mordin's death made me even shed a tear but the ending was so awful its hard to believe it was made by the same people.

Its because it wasn't. Lots of Mass Effect developers quit after Mass Effect 1 because of EA's meddling.

Mass Effect 1 was a true RPG, Mass Effect 2 was a combination of RPG and third-person shooter, Mass Effect 3 was primarily a third-person shooter with few RPG aspects in it save for the choices you still need to make.

I bet you, if all of the original developers stayed throughout the franchise, the game would've turned out a lot different.

I've been wondering about that.  Bioware bots say "this was a labor of love" and I automatically wonder.  Really?  A labor of love?  How many of you laboring in love on ME3 were there for ME1?  How many for ME2?  How many were left for ME3?  A labor of love would have been those involved in the creation of ME1 being there to finish ME3.  A labor of love for the $$$ is what you get if most of the people working ME3 were new/not there for ME1. 

[tehprincessJ]

I loved the game myself. The entire thing made me sad, but it also made me very, very happy in some moments.

Still my favorite franchise.

[eoinnx03]

LITTLE BLUE CHILDREN.....

[Alamar2078]

Shadow_Claw wrote...

I think people hate the ending simply because they don't want to let go of their beloved characters, they wanted the typical Hollywood action movie ending. I personally found the ending very satisfying, and well written. Endings of great stories are difficult to do well - look at Lost and Battlestar Galactica for example. I hope the next Bioware game is an original IP.

Oh and the funniest moment for me was Garrus telling Turian jokes with Joker.

In my particular case you would be wrong.  I believe that statements / promises were made in terms of what to expect and they simply did not deliver on their promises.

I'm fully prepared to lose Shep, all my beloved squadmates, etc. because I was properly prepared to do so.  I just want:

-- Promises kept
-- The ending to make sense based on the "rules" we've seen for the series
-- The ending to be the full and complete ending  [If you believe in the "dream" ending then we don't have the full ending]

The funny thing is I bet you don't get why I really think the endings sour the ENTIRE series while I probably just don't get how you could like the endings.

YMMV.

[shockone]

My favourite moment was since release of ME1 in 2007 till the last 10 minutes of Mass Effect 3.
You told us that there will be the answers on all questions, a closure... i guess not until a DLC or ME4 if u ever consider continuing the series, I love the game so much but it's such a let down also.

[Boraean]

I have just finished ME3 with the first of the 6 or 7 playthroughs I have from ME2 and after seeing the ending I don't really want to play the other saves.

I know the sappy happy endings are seen as cliche, but in this day and age when every game avoids the happy ending it isn't cliche anymore. You get vested in your Shepard and seeing the 3 possible choices in the end isn't great and left me feeling a bit gutted.

I do note from some of the posts here people don't realise there are a large variety of outcomes for the secondary characters and races. For example I had the Quarian and Geth survive and work together when that hasn' t happened for quite a few based on what I have read. it is just the ending that sucked for me - I felt very dissappointed and have decided to take a break from the game as a result and no quick replays

[Kioux]

The game in general was great. It was getting to me on an emotional level, it made me laugh and cry and ponder and rage. It was awesome. Seeing the VS again, Anderson's scenes, the Rannoch, Tuchanka, the arrival of the united fleet all the little jokes and easter eggs were awesome - and then the experience was devastated by the last 10 minutes.

I was looking very much forward to the promised closure and answers but they never came. Instead we were bombed with more questions and also things that simply did not make much sense at all. I - for one and this is my personal opinion, nobody has to agree - do enjoy the indoctrination theory a lot, It could answer a lot of questions still out there. But anything else - anything that at least explains the big mess would help to some extent and it would help me to restore some basic faith in Bioware.

And yes, I wouldn't mind a less depressing ending either - something that gives me hope for future games. The world is bleak enough as it is at the moment and games are one of my ways to get away from it. 

Modifié par Kioux, 15 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[Erethrian]

I can't believe it. Mr. Chris. I just can't believe it.

Are you serious? Please tell me that BioWare is simply joking... This is a nightmare... I mean, no theories, not anything, just a bad ending? It can't be!

http://social.biowar...index/9999272/1

http://www.me3finalhours.com/

Modifié par Erethrian, 15 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[mzs2002]

Hi, just finished mass effect 3  and started my second playthrough. To start would like to say the Mass Effect Series has been the one game series I can play over and over never getting bored from the action to the relationships you develop with the characters it is pure enjoyment and genius.

My favorite part for Mass Effect 3 i have to say is the relationship. I extremely enjoy getting to romance Ashley again I was dissappointed in how little there was of your relationship in Mass Effect 2 from Mass Effect 1.  I would of liked to have survived the end lol was not overly impressed that I had 3 choices and all ended with my death and not being able to ever see Ash again. 

Yes I know im talking about my character in first person but the Mass Effect series drew me in and was so well done I couldn't wait to play Mass Effect 3. I preordered it months in advance and spent the rest of the time playing the other 2 to prepare lol.

So yes I would love an alternate ending but if this is the ending we get I will not stop playing Mass Effect over it. The ending was defiantly contreversal but not unforgettable. 

[Shin Yodama]

Bioware, may I just say that if this goes down the way I believe it will, that you may have just pulled off something that even the best "magicians" of this world would be envious of. People will be talking about this in awed voices for years to come, and you will have earned your place in legend.

Extremely well played folks, and I admire you all for keeping it so quiet.