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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.


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RedWulfi

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I request a turian-human baby

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Raydiva

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The Kaidan 'Butt Shot' was one that got me grinning, but I must say the genophage (sp?) cure quest chain was one of the best. It had me wanting to know more about Krogan history and a Krogan centric game.

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When marines and Shepard ran toward the beam knowing that is suicide... Then everyone got killed by harbinger.
That was the most tragic but awesome moment to me.

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Getorex wrote...

rockman0 wrote...

One of my favorite moments came right before the last 15 minutes. Bear with me, I'm not trying to be sarcastic.

The part where you get to talk to all of your squaddies through the years and say your final farewells. You guys perfected that moment. It really made me think back to all of the past games. I actually teared up during those moments. And the music in the background? Perfection.


DING! 

The only downers in the batch were Wrex and Samara.  Wrex because his chat with you was fairly impersonal and flippant.  Samara because it is like talking to a vulcan - no emotion, just a detached handful of words. 

Ash, Grunt, Tali, Liara, Garrus in particular were perfect.  And I too felt the years and "shared experience" of the moment.


I was disappointed with the chat with Wrex as well. I didn't get a cutscene, just some little dialogue with him talking. I mean, I never cared for Wrex, but he actually grew on me in ME3.

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I’ll start with positive feedback and say I basically loved everything about the game:
All the interactions with Shepard’s friends and companions, also all those interactionsbetween companions aboard Normandy,
The overall feeling of desperation in trying to win this war
Liara and her time capsule, also their goodbye
Kaidan romance and the fact that he was finally by my side, all beautifully written and acted
The fact that Shepard finally admitted to be a human being and to have emotions and actually
expressed them
The moment I thought Grunt will die
Curing the genophage when I had doubts about it
Tali expressing care for Legion
Last conversation with Anderson (the cut fragment made me cry – it should have been in game)
Beautifully written friendship with Garrus
Joker and Edi and everything about them
The dream sequences
The fact that companions expressed care for Shepard’s wellbeing on different occasions
That Javic wasn’t what everybody expected him to be
Vega as a character, great guy! (Lola? seriously? ;)
That vanguard is so fun to play
All those little references to events in previous games: about Shepard’s resurrection in ME2, Horizon, Joker feeling bad about getting Shepard killed, Akuze and Cerberus involvement - to begin with..
And Shepard dying at the end, sacrificing herself to stop the war. I never thought in all those years since first ME came out, that letting her go would be so hard and heart breaking.
I could go on like this long time so I’ll just stop here.

Now my thoughts about game ending. To be clear I love the idea of bitter sweet ending, sacrifice that is necessary to save what you believe in. But there was nothing sweet in the endings we got, only bitter. My Shepard died knowing that she failed, whatever the option.
As I see it there were only two things she could do: either lose all what she believed in and what this cycle accomplished - cooperation and peace between organics and synthetics (destroy ending), or enforce her will and decision on either organics or synthetics, proving only that they shouldn’t be allowed to decide their own fate (merge and control ending).
She was wounded, tired, broken and desperate to end the war. This is the only reason I can think of why she followed Cathalyst’s solutions. I just don’t get why we were not allowed to prove him wrong and fight/die for what we believed in. We fought for this for three games but at the end we were only given the options that discarded all we accomplished in the process.
So the question is should I consider it a satisfying ending? Should I be content with the ending only because it was dark and difficult to decide only for the sake of being dark and making me feel sad and defeated?
There were so many possibilities, so many directions Bioware could go. Letting us choose happy ending that came at great cost, or a victorious bitter ending. This is the last ME after all! You didn’t have to worry about the variety of different endings.
Seeing the pattern of how two previous games in the series ended - the lack of other endings in ME3 seems strange to say the least. There always was a chance to beat the impossible odds. And in my opinion it doesn’t fit the Mass Effect universe I know and love.
Sorry for long post just had to share what’s on my mind.

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sadako wrote...

Bradeh wrote...
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Nice find!


Your sig I agree with 100%  I wont be preordering anything from Bioware in the future.  I will wait until it is out and the USER reviews give it a pass.  Game reviewers at mags are liars and unreliable.  Their reviews are based entirely on seeking to NOT lose add revenue from the very companies giving them games to 'review'.

Of course, it could always happen that a great game comes out to great user review only to see later in the series the game get totally borked after you've bought in and care.  Then you are left with the same ass taste in the mouth as with this series.  In any case, no money until AFTER user reviews give it a green light.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.

We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment? Posted Image




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My favorite moment was - having united my whole team for the Suicide Mission, and having learned through EDI & Legion not all synthetics were evil - feeling the hope at the end of ME1&2 that no matter the sacrifice, there would be a way to save the galaxy from the Reapers.

Instead I learned that the Mass Effect Universe ends no matter what I do because all my choices lead to the same 10-15mins of non-stop non-sequitors, plotholes and logical fallacies that produce a nonsense so bad that the Mass Relay Network blows up and most probably takes out the mjority of habitable worlds with it. If I destroy the Reapers, I destroy the galaxy. If I merge or control the Reapers, I become the Reapers... Not only was it impossible to *Take Earth Back*, but it seems that I end up outdoing the Reapers at reaping.

Sorry Chris, I appreciate the olive branch, but ME3's ending a string of logical fallacies, it went against everything the series had yet come to stand for.

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sadako wrote...

Bradeh wrote...

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Nice find!


That'll be the first thing I buy once I have kids. :)

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I liked 99% of the game. It was brilliant. And then the ending came along.

Now I have no desire to finish another playthrough, or to buy any DLC. Why does it matter?

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SquareBomb wrote...

Greedy BioWare: We love money. How can we make more?
BioWare Lackey: Got it, charge $10 for something on the disc.
Greedy BioWare: What else?
BioWare Lackey: Incorporate co-op, make people think they will achieve a great ending by playing and charge more money for extra races and weapons!
Greedy BioWare: That is good, but what else can we do now that this is the end?
BioWare Lackey: Come up with a completely unsatisfying ending and once everyone has finished the game we can offer a DLC that gives the actual ending. They will pay anything to play through the actual ending!
Greedy BioWare: Great. While we wait for many people to finish the game, I say we troll the fans by asking them about the "ending" and play dumb.

I am done with this. Like so many others, I was looking forward to replaying the whole series to get the ending I wanted. I know ME2 had that effect on me. I realized what choices I could make in ME and how they had an effect on ME2, so I replayed both and it was great. I enjoyed some of the DLC that offered a prologue to the next game, but then we get to ME3 and instead we're ripped off. The DLC is simply game content that they made us pay extra for, the co-op, while it may be fun, is just another chance to rake up the money, and the ending completely craps on any character building we worked towards.

This ending reminded me of the Eragon series a bit. It starts off great, gets even better and then hits a rocky bit on the last installment. "That's okay," you tell yourself, "it is still overall a great." Then you arrive at the end where you are completely crapped on. I never expected the same from this game series. I thought for sure the ending was going to be romanticized and exactly what I wanted. Wrong. Good thing I didn't waste my whole spring break on this so that I can end on a positive note with Skyrim or something else.



you do know erago was writen by a 16 year old right???

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My favorite moment in 3, was honestly every moment spend with Liara on the Normandy.
Second favorite was anytime I modded my guns in the docking bay.
LOVE the multiplayer.

As for the endings, I don’t know what to think of them really, they don’t make sense to me, and are not the kind of endings I like. ( I would have preferred happier endings or at least ones where it is explained what is going on.)
 I do like the idea if perhaps a new ending DLC, but don’t like the much thought that I have to pay for a ending that should have been in the game in the first place ( I feel anyway) that said I would totally buy it.

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Can my favorite moment of the series be Garrus?  I swear, Garrus has easily become one of the best NPC characters ever created for a franchise.  I took that guy with me on almost every single mission.  And his talk with Shepard before the big push...sent chills down my spine.  Manly tears were shed, sir.  Manly tears.

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Souris wrote...

For those of you who continually say "the ending ruined the entire game for me" I propose an analogy for you:

Lets say you go to an amusement park with your friends. The day is awesome, you get to the front of the line for every ride, the weather is awesome, theres great food. But, at the end of the day, you spill coffee all over your favorite white shirt. Does the bad thing happening at the end of the day ruin the rest of it? No. Does the ending of this game that most (not all, including myself) people dislike, ruin the rest of the experience? No. You're being entirely over dramatic and emotional.


I think the serial killer analogy is enough to shut this "argument" down.

The "poor" ending to the game changes NOTHING about the journey getting there, nothing about the writing, the dialogue, the choices, storytelling, characters, absolutely nothing is changed. How you can let 5 minutes destroy 30+ hours of quality emotional story is beyond me. The story and gameplay was stellar, my props to BioWare for delivering, and I apologize for all of the crap being flung your way.


If Lord of the Rings ended with Aliens abducting Frodo and the entire cast to conduct experiments on them, you can bet I would never watch or read Lord of the Rings again.

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SquareBomb wrote...

Greedy BioWare: We love money. How can we make more?
BioWare Lackey: Got it, charge $10 for something on the disc.
Greedy BioWare: What else?
BioWare Lackey: Incorporate co-op, make people think they will achieve a great ending by playing and charge more money for extra races and weapons!
Greedy BioWare: That is good, but what else can we do now that this is the end?
BioWare Lackey: Come up with a completely unsatisfying ending and once everyone has finished the game we can offer a DLC that gives the actual ending. They will pay anything to play through the actual ending!
Greedy BioWare: Great. While we wait for many people to finish the game, I say we troll the fans by asking them about the "ending" and play dumb.

I am done with this. Like so many others, I was looking forward to replaying the whole series to get the ending I wanted. I know ME2 had that effect on me. I realized what choices I could make in ME and how they had an effect on ME2, so I replayed both and it was great. I enjoyed some of the DLC that offered a prologue to the next game, but then we get to ME3 and instead we're ripped off. The DLC is simply game content that they made us pay extra for, the co-op, while it may be fun, is just another chance to rake up the money, and the ending completely craps on any character building we worked towards.

This ending reminded me of the Eragon series a bit. It starts off great, gets even better and then hits a rocky bit on the last installment. "That's okay," you tell yourself, "it is still overall a great." Then you arrive at the end where you are completely crapped on. I never expected the same from this game series. I thought for sure the ending was going to be romanticized and exactly what I wanted. Wrong. Good thing I didn't waste my whole spring break on this so that I can end on a positive note with Skyrim or something else.



you do know erago was writen by a 16 year old right???

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-Mordin's death tugged at my heartstrings, especially after he redeemed himself by curing the Genophage.
-I was amazed how angry I felt at the Quarian Admiral who fired on the Geth Ship before I had the chance to escape. Punching him in the gut and yelling "get off my ship" was so rewarding.
-I shot Legion - but only twice. I got to hear Tali tell him he has a soul before he died, but I still feel awful about it.
-I chose to destroy the reapers, even though I had both other options. I was motivated by the thought that Anderson and most of my of my squad, including my LI had already been killed on Earth. There were so many times I thought it was over, and I had failed, leading up to the end. Seeing Shep draw breath at the end was awesome.
This game moved me in so many powerful ways.

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if you add some happy sweet ending or something like that tons of more dlc will be sold and I'm gonna happy to buy it all but at the moment I can't even back to log in to the game :(
give us more good / bad (not sad and sorrow) ending in anyway you present it
and I gonna keep my loyalty to BW agian . . .

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shockone wrote...

My favourite moment was since release of ME1 in 2007 till the last 10 minutes of Mass Effect 3.
You told us that there will be the answers on all questions, a closure... i guess not until a DLC or ME4 if u ever consider continuing the series, I love the game so much but it's such a let down also.


I feel the same way. Though I am worried that ME4's main character will be Anakin Shepard, it will be a prequel taking place during the First Contact Wars, and they will introduce a new race and character: Bar Bar Jinks, a Dumgan

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The whole series was great. Unfortunately, BW killed her in my eyes. I can not reject the whole thing to end. Personally I'm waiting for any information about the DLC with the ending. We are happy to see me in ME3 a happy ending to my choices in the game all efforts to collect the army had an impact on a happy or sad ending.

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To all the people that are bashing Chris, please stop, this is the first Official Forum response that we are getting and the Negative attitudes are not needed for our Cause. You can still express everything you want to in a constructive light.

As for my favorite moment... There are many that made me laugh and a few that felt inspiring.

Thane just being a Boss!
Stabbing Kai Leng
Grunt!
Paragon Mordin
Pretty much every thing Liara, even when she wasnt the love interest. And Tali too
Legion...
Thresher Maw.. I cheered for it!

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The legend of The One who tried to stop you from the horrible endings. HIs name was...Marauder Shields!

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majinbuu1307 wrote...

Indoctrination theory fails. WHEN YOU ARE INDOCTRINATED YOU DO NOT DREAM! You are aware of whats going on but you are too busy being influenced to notice. Saren didn't WAKE UP somewhere after shooting himself, no, he was still in the same spot, and was dead. Ilusive man finally fought the indoctrination after realizing he wasn't in control like he thought he was, he didn't wake up somewhere, no, he dies right there on the citadel. Shepard WAS however almost indoctrinated by ilusive man(who was in turn indoctrinated by the reapers/catalyst) Hence the black weird stuff around the screen when near him. Was no blood loss, that was different. Geez. The renegade option to shoot him breaks that. Or the paragon option to make ilusive man shoot himself ends it too. The endings ACTUALLY happy, don't reach for straws cuz they messed up and you aren't happy with the endings.


Lets try and break this down...

Indoctrination theory fails. WHEN YOU ARE INDOCTRINATED YOU DO NOT
DREAM! You are aware of whats going on but you are too busy being
influenced to notice. Saren didn't WAKE UP somewhere after shooting
himself, no, he was still in the same spot, and was dead. Ilusive man
finally fought the indoctrination after realizing he wasn't in control
like he thought he was, he didn't wake up somewhere, no, he dies right
there on the citadel.


Shepard was just hit with a laser by Harbinger, knocking him unconscious. Everything after the blast was a dream, an unconscious delusion the reapers would use to try and fool Shepard to submit to their control. His mind, over the course of 3 games from being exposed to reapers both from being nearby or inside one, would be weak from subtle exposure to indoctrination. This would be the perfect chance for Harbinger to break his will and control Shepard.

Was no blood loss, that was different. Geez. The renegade option to shoot him breaks that.


You still shot Anderson and he dies, but thats not the point. At first, Shepard's body wasn't bleeding out during the confrontation, then afterwards you notice he's suddenly bleeding to death. He wasn't shot like anderson, but now he's suddenly suffering a mortal injury. If it was caused by Harbinger's beam, the bloodloss would've killed him before he even reached the beam to the citadel. When he ascends on the elevator, suddenly the wound is gone, his arm isn't covered in blood, and he's standing up as if nothing happened. Again, delusions no doubt caused by indoctrination and being unconscious.

The endings ACTUALLY happy, don't reach for straws cuz they messed up and you aren't happy with the endings.


The endings are happy? I hate to sound pessimistic then, but I don't consider the mass relays being destroyed and further isolating every single planet/star system/nebula including the armada brought to earth being a "happy" ending. As I've questioned before: How will the surviving military armada survive without supplies? What about growing colonies on new planets? How are they going to get supplies with the relays being destroyed? Shepard's sacrifice ultimately throws the galaxy further into chaos. I don't think thats a happy ending.

And until Bioware confirms otherwise (that also makes sense at least), we will not accept the endings given to us and will continue to push theories on other potential endings that might have happened.

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probably on my Tali save...

when she tells Shep that she wants more time.....

In my head I was like...me too Tali, me too....

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I've spent 325 hours playing the mass effect series (280 hours reported by Steam for ME1 and ME2, including all DLC) and 45 hours for ME3. It was (mostly) an amazing experience. Like a lot of players, I loved ME3 up until the last few minutes, then any interest in replaying ME again was destroyed. I'd normally be in the middle of replaying ME3 again, but I just can't see the point now. With the ME3 ending the way it was, I can't see why I'd want to play any new DLC that takes place before that point, unless it gives a more satisfying ending to the series.

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Assuming this is correct (and I don't know anything more than is in the thread) we're probably not getting an answer anytime soon, because there's nothing for them to say:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9999272

It appears we do indeed have the intended ending. No indoc. No surprise DLC.

I would have appreciated finding a statement to that effect posted last week, when I finished the game.

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