it was clearly stated in arrival that was the case and all the exploding shockwaves around each relay point those big explosions only proved that most of the galaxy is gone
Those are NOT the same cases with different variables and possibly different outcomes. I believe Patrick Weekes summarized it better than I ever could, but still there's a huge difference between turning a nuclear reactor off and dropping a nuke on it. Outcome is the same - it will be rendered inoperable and won't produce electricity.
the adam and eve theory is still too impossiable to have any signifigant marit other then in the synthesis ending because maybe everyone doesn't have a regular lifespan anymore but it would be the only shot at true repopulation but then their is no diversity so what would be the point?
and like I've mentioned I have like 5 to 10 vids link that will explain everything why this ending was not that good and no you war assets don't matter do you see them in the final battle do you know what occurs to the races you brought together hell no you don't right and no the assets you don't see them on the battlefield right now do you thee extended could fix some of these which I hope they do but now for the several links for you people who think the ending is ok if you still think the ending was ok after looking at these videos then I will leave it alone
Well lets hope thee extended does do something if not it will be another head ache[/quote]
I will keep posting those links so that alot of you on the otherside who only think were upset about shepard dieing will understand that we are alot more upset then just that and it will also explain the many plotholes and the reasons why the ending in and of its self should be changed and 10 posts ago why not give the people who want a different ending a different ending and keep the original ending for those who like it instead of having all sides be at war at each other and everybody could win instead of everyone losing or be pissed off at one another [/quote]
I just hope that even if they were rushed or whatever I just hope in the end all of the fans can get a decent ending and that our choices and war assets matter please for the love of god and any other religious figure that exists is that really too much to ask for.....
I just wish they could figure a way to satisfie the people who hated the ending for decent valid reasons and give them a option a getting a newer or better ending while keep the core 3 endings for the fans that liked them so everybody could win and we could stop fighting each other once and for all otherwise we will be at each others throat forever [/quote]
The god kid was kinda a no not really I mean a final confrontation with harbinger even if not a boss battle would have been more preferable [/quote]
Well it would been cool if harbinger was truelly the leader instead of the god child that we only saw in the last 5 minutes and the circular logic about how he made synthetic reapers to destroy organics from making other synthetics and destroying or preserving them so that they all wouldn't be killed by synthetics is a bit on the nonsense side but if the character was introduced earlyer and was done well maybe It would be less upsetting [/quote]
nope after playing all the way through and those are you only choices how can you feel like a hero lol[/quote]
What if some of the major or harcore fans don't move on then what lol though we do have some hope for extended? [/quote]
brings another point about starchild who whole point about how the created will always rebel against their creators if that was the case how could we bring peace between the geth and quarians if that was correct why didn't the reapers repel against him in the first place and for the whole reapers are only the starchilds puppets don't make sense because harbinger and soverign both have sentient minds and seem to have their own motivations for doing what they personally want so yes the starchild loses more points and makes less sense [/quote]
Well the hope of bioware making all fans satisfied may be a long way away U-u[/quote]
well maybe you're just too accepting or being in wishful denial that life goes on after this drastic tragety either way we wont know till extended U-u
it was clearly stated in arrival that was the case and all the exploding shockwaves around each relay point those big explosions only proved that most of the galaxy is gone
Those are NOT the same cases with different variables and possibly different outcomes. I believe Patrick Weekes summarized it better than I ever could, but still there's a huge difference between turning a nuclear reactor off and dropping a nuke on it. Outcome is the same - it will be rendered inoperable and won't produce electricity.
turning off a nuclear reactor doesn't make it blow up, throw pieces everywhere and create a shockwave. there's not much difference between nuclear reactor overloading and exploding this way, or dumping a rock on top of it, so it explodes becasue containment is broken from an outside.
in the end - its still an explosion.
and yes, Patrick Weeks, said that they overloaded. they may, no will need to change Cinematics to reflect that. becasue the way it looked was very much like they exploded.
Instead of inbred brothers/sisters we're all inbred alien brothers/sisters now.
Again, thinking too hard on it and the Adam and Eve theory is missing a key piece. Christian religion removed the story of Adams first wife, Lilith, from the Book. If you take that into account there is much more chance for diversity. Not to mention three people get off the ship.
But if three people survived I would think that more would have survived around the galaxy.
two people shown alive after the credits doesn't tell me life goes on espically since the world looks like it is dying or completely covered in the snow and looks like the planet won't be able to cover maybe from a nuclear winter either way it doesn't give me any sense of life goes on more of the our time is done kinda thing not that our race will go on...
Maybe you're looking at it the wrong way then. Perhaps the 'explosions' weren't quite that, I think they were more energy pulses spreading Shepards influence over the galaxy. Rather then just destroying everything.
Hoping I won't be stoned to death here, for barging into this discussion, but... I agree.
Oh, don't worry, dae. I firmly believe I'm going to deplete the stoning stock, so they'll have to throw bread at you instead. And well... at least it wouldn't be dying hungry
and how can the end possiable tell you that life goes on you hear a old man and his son talking on what looks like a dieing world with no one else around how does that help in any fashion please tell me lol?
the explosions and the shockwaves from each relay caused major damage in each area of the galaxy and severly damaged the normandy if it was only a pulse it wouldn't have damaged the ship !!! X_X_X_X
You're just finding fault in everything apparently. You're obviously set in your mind that any other possibility is wrong.
You've never been in a snowing forest with just yourself or one other person? The mass effect series was a big 'story time' for some kid told by his Grandfather. I really doubt that only five people somehow pieced together all that history if they were stuck on one planet.
Also I've been thinking. How much money will EA actually spend on making the Extended Cut DLC? They won't be making a profit out of it. As such will the extended cut dlc be of good quality? I said of good quality becaue I don't want the extended cut in the first place! I want new endings that actually made sense!
EA doesn't want to cave to pressure, because that would set the precedent that what fans want matter, and would involve them admitting they screwed up on the ending. However, the 80 thousand raised for sick kids and the 1000 raised for cupcakes makes the fans look awesome in the media, and EA looks like:devil: for refusing to do anything. So they release the "extended cut" DLC. The Media reports that EA is giving fans what they want (Even though it's just polishing a turd, and not what we asked for) and when fans point this out, EA can just respond with "We gave you what you wanted!" and then every news story will paint us as whiners and probably include quotes from Thanatos as a false equivalency saying "even the fans are divided on the ending" even though he's just one troll on the forum.
Thats way I would say to just not buy DLC or any new products from Bioware/EA.
It's sad that EA doesn't realize that the business model for sports games (annual releases, mainly just roster updates and gameplay patches) does not apply to every other genre. You can't do that with cinematic, character driven stories.
You're just finding fault in everything apparently. You're obviously set in your mind that any other possibility is wrong. You've never been in a snowing forest with just yourself or one other person? The mass effect series was a big 'story time' for some kid told by his Grandfather. I really doubt that only five people somehow pieced together all that history if they were stuck on one planet.
but the fact that they framed it as a story being told to his grandkid was just a cop out.
You tricky b******s. Bioware, I finally got it. You guys are ingenious. It finally makes sense. Everything. I just didn't notice it at first. You had it planned all along.
@ LittleBlueChildrenNow Running out of time is a concept that seems to be generally accepted on both sides of the fence as a reason for the closing sequences being pretty much one video edited three times with different overlay effects. Still, even though most of the "pro-enders" acknowledge and even embrace the argument that the game leaves too much empty space for debate and didn't show the consequences that matter to some people (even though they are there, technically), it's usually considered not a major flaw. Definitely not major enough to start hating the whole game, let alone whole trilogy.
In my opinion the ending ruined the whole game, because you get involved with the story, the characters, the decisions... It's like you are building your own story (I know it's not like that, but the player feels that way) and you are expecting an amazing ending that follows the same plot thread. Then you are staring at the screen with that "What the hell just happened?" face. Now, I have no desire to play the games again, because I cannot get rid of that ending. I wish I could forget it and just keep playing and enjoyning the games. But I can't. Every time I load the game, the ending comes to my mind and I just have to close it. It's a pity, but I think I am not the only one who feels this way.
ME2 ending was the best example. Your choices mattered. You actually saw the result of making them. The same happenned in ME1. Why they changed that in ME3? I mean, you have to take the hardest decisions in ME3 and you don't even see the result of them at the end.
What do you think about the Normandy leaving Earth? Do you agree there are plot holes?
and it doesn't show any other survivors besides the oldman and is son this is not enough to truely make me feel like our existence is some form continues and like mentioned the only way the adam and eve thing can really work is in the synthesus one but how can their still be diversity if we were all pretty much the same I mean if the world was only full of one race or one gender life would get pretty terrible pretty damn quick
I believe the Normandy was breaking up before the pulse if you look at the cinema again. I think Joker was pushing past the FTL safety limits for the ship and it was breaking apart trying to run away. And when the pulse hit it shook the ship enough to bring it down. But it was already damaged from the FTL and perhaps even the battle for earth.
Maybe you're looking at it the wrong way then. Perhaps the 'explosions' weren't quite that, I think they were more energy pulses spreading Shepards influence over the galaxy. Rather then just destroying everything.
Hm. This is indeed a very interesting theory. I instinctively thought that, myself when I watched the ending sequence for the first time. If that is true, then the question that remains is: How did it get "materialized"? By the machine, maybe? Heck, I don't know.
but what I'm telling you is if it was a pulse then it wouldn't have damaged the ship like the normandy enough to crash on this damn planet
I've read pretty much most of your posts over the last couple pages and you're just pretty much pulling BS out thin air. You have no proof of anything you're suggesting.
and most of you guys don't either it is either pure speculation like indoctrination theory or some space magic bull**** no one so far has had any true answers just more damn speculation
Again, you're set on your pin point theory and at the very least, not accepting that people feel differently.
I feel there is a heavy asian/anime influence to this ending. Somebody mentioned before me the similarity between Evangelion and I see that as well with it being brought up. This is not a typical american sci-fi ending. This is much more asian with the philosophy and the fact the 'God Child' said that Shepards influence and being was going to be transferred into the Crucible.
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