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[LiarasShield]

if I hear one more fan outcry about how we only hate the endings cause it is sad I'm going find a way to curse them out in seven different languaes because that is not the reason why a lot of us hate the ending

[Flubberlub]

http://social.biowar...64/polls/32346/
This poll shows - more or less - what we want from a true ending to mass effect 3
Its only a small reference pool but it shows a defiant majority

[adhoc9000]

Is the extended cut DLC going to be similar to how fallout 3 changed/fix its endings or are we going to see these cinematic scenes sprinkled into the ending cutting scene after choosing either destruction, control or sythesis?

[LiarasShield]

Fans who love the ending that make giant assumptions about those that didnt without paying valid attentions to the flaws that other fans have stated or pointed out: hahha you guys only hated the ending because it is sad haha suck it up you ****ing crybaby

Me and the other fans that have valid reasons: You sound like a vorcha why don't you look at some of the flaws and pay attention to some of our posts and see that we can accept a bittersweet ending if it makes ****ing sense

[LiarasShield]

because of thee absurd comments about hating the ending cause it is sad I may vent all day cause of that nonsense lol

[LiarasShield]

sounds like a lot of people who loved the ending are just jumping on the banwagon of the bioware pr staff saying that we only hate the ending cause it is sad or because it is the end of shepards story oh these people ****** me off so much and yet make me laugh at the same time because I know without a doubt that this isn't so lol

Modifié par LiarasShield, 18 avril 2012 - 04:41 .

[JelleV2]

I can not even believe I spent as much time on compiling my feedback as I have done. It really shows huw much I have grown to love the trilogy. It took me ~20 pages to be satisfied with my feedback, I hope Bioware appreciates it. I really hope however someone will read it

Not sure if I can even attach a pdf file, so here is the feedback through Dropbox:
dl.dropbox.com/u/23981643/OnTheEnd.pdf

I would like to wish the entire Team the best of luck with the extended cut, I am eagerly waiting what you guys have in store for us!

[LiarasShield]

don't worry the other fans will only **** at you because they think you didn't like the ending because it was sad Lmao

Modifié par LiarasShield, 18 avril 2012 - 04:43 .

[LiarasShield]

I most likely willl troll the fans that only think that one liner slogan on these forums when I encounter them

[noivoieidoi]

AmstradHero wrote...

The fact that you like this idea demonstrates a gross misunderstanding of storytelling and plot development that is as bad as the original ending.

I’m renowned for choosing my ice cream for its taste, regardless the production processes involved.

One, it still introduces a new character right at the ending - which as has been established time and time again, is a poor plot device for when the writers cannot produce a logical ending that follows on sequentially from previous events

Disturbing, indeed. And instead of ‘breaking the rules’, they call it ‘creativity’. But what more can one do than taking it all and hoping for better days? Did you know that for thousands of years Egyptian arts obeyed to the rule of symmetry? Suddenly, Amenhotep III thought differently. Then Egypt reached its peak in arts. Now everything is back to normal. See? Another fun fact: it’s been established time and time again that women are inferior beings and their place is in the kitchen (unless the dog needs the place). Yet lately, some seem to disagree (!?). Just saying...

It's a major break in the storytelling to create an arbitrary ending of the writer's choice.

And we, the kids, have a problem with the authority.

Secondly, you're saying that this character should be allowed to wilfully deceive the player.

Huh?

That's a gross crime against a game series that has revolved around choice.

Story (as you mentioned above). Games revolving around choice: chess, Go, politics, marriage etc.

people are trying to correlate all the facts that have been presented to the player, which is not possible to do in any logical fashion or without copious amounts of handwaving.

Try a different approach. Unlike the technical manuals, where 1+1 is always objectively 2, in arts most of the time the result of 1+1 is more personal and often unexpected. On a sad note, there are people who never find it.

the sacrifice was expected to happen in a logical and coherent fashion. It didn't. The fact that you can't recognise this is not a failing of the people issuing the complaints, it is a failure in your ability to understand them.

Yeah, I keep seeing this pattern: - ‘No logic at all - can’t you see the sun up high?’ -‘But they say it happens in Japan, where is night’ -‘You don’t understand’.

Modifié par noivoieidoi, 18 avril 2012 - 04:58 .

[3DandBeyond]

I believe this has been posted here before, but I do hope those that think they like the ending would watch it before just calling us all self-entitled whiners or worse. It explains how out of context with the rest of the games the ending is. It also explains why the truth is those complaining are actually good fans of the series. It's because we love these games and characters that we want things to be different. I can't presume to speak for everyone and my wishes for the ending may not be the same as anyone else's, but that is exactly the point.

[3DandBeyond]

adhoc9000 wrote...

Is the extended cut DLC going to be similar to how fallout 3 changed/fix its endings or are we going to see these cinematic scenes sprinkled into the ending cutting scene after choosing either destruction, control or sythesis?

That's the big question.  Officially they have said the endings won't be changed, but will be clarified.  If so, that's the model for failure.  I am going to try and have more faith than that.  I can't see them leaving their fans this way, because this ending as it is, even if clarified is so unsatisfying it turns hardcore fans away.  Not a good sign.

[LiarasShield]

a majority of the fans who love the ending are only gonna think we hate the ending cause it is sad no matter what proof or facts we give them no matter what flaws we point out they will still only say that we hate the ending because it is sad face it they're jumping onto the bioware pr wagon and riding it all the way home

Modifié par LiarasShield, 18 avril 2012 - 05:06 .

[LiarasShield]

doesn't matter how much evidence that the fans who don't like the ending have it will be simply ignored or pushed aside by the fans who loved the ending and the bioware pr staff

[LiarasShield]

face it our facts and opinons don't matter lol no wonder why I love bethesda cause they actually seem to care a lot espically since they have gone out of their way to try to fix the lag issues on my ps3 system

[LiarasShield]

also the fixes with fallout 3

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

a majority of the fans who love the ending are only gonna think we hate the ending cause it is sad no matter what prove or facts we give them no matter what flaws we point out they will still only say that we hate the ending because it is sad face it they're jumping onto the bioware pr wagon and riding it all the way home

Cause that's what you put forward......how many of you have stated that
you will hate the ending even after the extended cut even though none
of you even know what it will be?????????????????? Simple
conclusion. You all had expectations that were not met and wont be
happy till they are. In simple terms you are throwing a fit and hoping your loud voices make the big mean corporation void all its hard work.

[LiarasShield]

yes but I have stated many times that the extended perhaps will solve things thanatos or when I posted that you didn't read it either way but no matter what than you have proven my point that no matter what flaws we point out wether the wrong logic with thee advanced ai or characters doing stuff they would never do that you will only blame us because we think it is sad you have proven this theory time and again

[LiarasShield]

you have jumped on with the bioware pr and the other good fans who only think we hate the ending cause it is sad but we have given you so much that we can still accept a sad ending if it makes sense or a cliff hanger if it makes sense

[LiarasShield]

LiarasShield wrote...

Me: damn bosh'tat can't understand I hate the ending because it makes no sense

Liara: by the goddess I thought you only hated the ending because you can't live and have those kids with me shepard

Me: well I am somewhat disappointed about that but if I have to die then i want you and the crew to remain loyal to me and for my heroic sacrifice to make sense so here I go destroys the red machine and gets caught up in the explosion

No advanced ai that tries to explain the reapers
 
* normandy stranded inspace while staying to fight the reapers with the fleets as the relays get destroyed and the ship gets damaged by the shockwave*

*Reapers on earth get destroyed by the red blast as it destroys every relay in the galaxy*

Me: Some how survives the explosion from the citadel and earths reentry while body remains intact takes one final breath and then fades to black

and I could die or live or whatever and leave it to the players interpretation it can still be a bittersweet ending or hope for a future leaving it up the players wether shepard died or not

[LiarasShield]

because that is a cliff hanger that makes sense

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

you have jumped on with the bioware pr and the other good fans who only think we hate the ending cause it is sad but we have given you so much that we can still accept a sad ending if it makes sense or a cliff hanger if it makes sense

You are making assumptions that are void of reality. To say none want
Shepard alive and happy endings would be lying. The majority of those
hating the ending wants just that. All you have to do is look back at
the reposes in this thread. What else does it mean to have a ending where you and your love interest have a life after???????????? I can handle disagreement but I like it to be honest.

[Thanatos144]

LiarasShield wrote...

because that is a cliff hanger that makes sense

Thats what the cut isd for,.....to explain to those who didnt get it. That isnt being insulteing that is just fact.

[Flubberlub]

What we can't just say its that we hate the ending
WE can say what needs improving
Not only is that easier to achieve its easier for developers to understand what WE want... That's why I made this poll: http://social.biowar...64/polls/32346/

[Thanatos144]

Gave enough time to the rage trolls. Enjoy your state of faux betrayal I am done. I have told my piece and no longer wish to waste my with this issue. Like it or dont who cares. If you dont play it so what? It isnt a big loss.