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[Subject M]

xXIncognitoXx wrote...

Dear Bioware, we are so vocal because we are fighting for the franchise we love. If you truly love your fanbase then fight for us! Fight for the lost!

+1

The reactions are so strong because the trilogy was so damn good up until the end.
Unless you want to hurt the fans, we need improved new endings.

I loved how My shep disproved the statement of "disproval" made by the reaper on Rannoch by convining the Geth and Quarians to make peace. For as long as that peace last, the reason for the reapers harvesting orgnics is invalid or at least cast in uncertainty. It would be great if such a peace would be part of a solution where the reapers are more or less ordered by the starchild to leave (for I dont think the catalyst is going anyware) but still monitor the situation from beyond the galactic rim should the peace not last ( "the Peace ending").

Modifié par Subject M, 15 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[Teramage]

For me the best moment of the game was when i see two pictures taken from google images and placed in a AAA game payed 50€. And space magic.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

weltraumhamster89 wrote...

THIS, BIOWARE read it:

The Angry One wrote...

I've seen the Final Hours pictures.
You are not listening.

You are sitting there. Laughing at us. You did this on purpose. You made us wait 5 years for an ending you KNEW would destroy us.
I don't believe in anything anymore, you've killed all the hope I had.

I will never invest a penny in you again, you can go sell games to the sahara desert for all I care, I won't have anything more to do with you.

This!  Bioware set out to steal money from us.  that is the only word for it,they lied on purpose so that they could get money from us.  they will never get a cent from me again and I am going to write my congresman and ask if if there is any way a law can be writting that would require retailers to except return on PC.

Bioware is run by lying crook who planned in advance to steal money from people they knew would not buy their piece of crap games if they told the truth about them.

16 endings was a bold faced lie and someone should go to jail for fraud.

[FlyinElk212]

I was one of the few who was actually okay with the ending, but I gotta say.......it REAAAAAAALLY does seem like Bioware's hardcore trolling us.

[maddlarkin]

DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...

goose2989 wrote...

 Mr. Priestly,


As so many of the posts before me state, the entire game was truly the best, most exciting, well-designed video game experience I have ever played. It really was the best. Better than Mass Effect 2. Better than Halo:Reach. A lost better than Skyrim. Every thing from dialogue to action, it was superb.


But, as this thread clearly shows, the ending was just terrible. I'll keep this part short; if the fans (and I think I speak for mos of us) want a typical, "happy" ending with Shepard and his/her Love Interest reuniting and committing to each other forever, than please just give us that option. I don't expect it for everyone, but if so many of us want it, then please, make it possible.


While I personally want to be able to see Shepard and Tali building their house on Rannoch together, I would be more than satisfied seeing the two united at the end, with no more danger, and simply hearing them say "Hey, we did it together. Now we can finally be together without worrying about Reapers" or something along those lines.


Thanks for listening


Kristofer R

Well said,I can't put it any better.

Bioware please think if you continue this PR spin you will lose a lot of fans and that will mean you lose a lot of money.  Please think about the future of your company.

As long as it take we will hold the line and if you don't fix this other companies that compete with you will be getting our money in future.

I would also like to add in additon to this, an ending which makes some semblence of sense, where a mythical star child, never before mentioned shows up to punch massive plot holes in everything you've created, a game where you can win, where the Reapers aren't simply tools of another being never previously mentioned and finally an ending which you will do market reserch on and actually take the views of the people who play it, not simply rely on the massive egos of the writers and producers that they can do no wrong, I don't want ending DLC that will be equally bad and we have to do all this again 3 months from now

Oh and by the way if the goal of this ending was not to be resolution of the series but rather as Mark Walters hand written flow chart and Casey Hudsons ill thought comments implied instead to create speculation then I also expect a public apology from Bioware to the fans for failing to deliver what you have promised and exploiting your fan base!

[BratacTealcorg]

i loved me1 and 2

and i loved me3 until i reached the ending.

Now i dont want to play ME ever again.

Not ME1 not ME2 and not ME3 .. why ?.. because at the end we loose, no matter what we choose.

[cinderburster]

JulienJaden wrote...

cinderburster wrote...

lucidfox wrote...

Akael_Bayn wrote...

...yeah, we're not stupid, you know?
Don't give us this "We don't want to spoil things for people who aren't done BS.  How about a straight answer about where all the many and varied endings we were promised went?

This.

What happened to all the talk about "no bespoke ending that everyone gets"? What happened to "no shoehorning into ending A, B or C"?

Oh, well, see, they didn't shoehorn us into A, B, or C.  They shoe-horned us into 16 variations of A, B, or C that have only superificial differences and an inconclusive five-second plot twist.

Actually, they shoehorned us into Red, Blue and Green, which is COMPLETELY different from A, B and C. 

Seriously, though, it's not even 16. If you're feeling generous, it's 6. And in reality, it's one, plus your favorite color.
Unless you're colorblind. ... In that case, it's really just one ending.

So, Bioware: STOP HARASSING THE COLORBLIND!

Hahaha good point. 

[Kasty]

 no  DLC with normal ending? now torrent edition only bioware...you are master of trolling 90lvl.
thanks al ot

[Kyrick]

Kyrick wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment?

Why would anybody who had legitimate questions and concerns bother engaging in whatever you feel 'healthy' discussions are?  Bioware has, since this whole brouhaha commenced, done nothing but denigrate and mock anybody who felt (or feels) upset about the ending of this game and series.  Instead of releasing a statement declaring your intentions and answering the simple question of whether or not the ending was legit or something different with more to come, you have all danced around the issue and further enraged and depressed people.

Whatever you think 'healthy' discussion is, you're certainly not bothering to engage in it.  You're mocking the community with coy little posts.

And don't pretend that saying, "Yes, the ending is the actual ending" or "No, the ending is not the actual ending and there is more to come" is giving away 'spoilers'.  It's mentioning nothing of the content whatsoever and only using generalities that only people who've played the game through (or who have read the spoilers already) would know anything about.

While I think there is more coming, I feel that you at Bioware have handled this beyond badly.  You've messed with people's emotions and expectations.  This, in itself, isn't that terrible if you deal with it relatively quickly.  But you've all allowed people to get and stay upset for a very long time period.  You've actively harmed yourselves and your brand name with this.  I personally know three people that flatly refuse to support Bioware any longer, and these are people who've been with you (as I have) from the Baldur's Gate days.  They're not upset at the game's ending (or lack thereof) so much as they are your attitudes toward the community during this whole mess.  Two of them have canceled subscriptions to TOR in point of fact, simply because they 'refuse to commit to a company willing to deceive their consumers and make fun of their concerns.'  

I don't mention things like this to change your minds or anything.  You likely don't even read posts like this, if your continued attitudes are any indication.  I simply post in the (maybe vain) hope that, at some point, somebody from Bioware will see this and stop to ponder how they've handled this mess.  Will the two guildies from TOR I'm friends with come back?  Nope.  These are people who've not touched another SOE game since the Galaxies flim-flammery, up to and including the present day.  They simply stopped supporting the company.

At some point, apologies and protestations of 'But it was all for artistic merit!!!' cease being appropriate guys.  Myself, I've set a deadline of PAX.  If I've not heard anything about the endings up to that point, I'll be pulling the plug alongside my ex-guildies and friends, for the very same reasons.  I'm willing to give you a bit more leeway, but the more time passes, the more aggrieved I become at this whole mess.

I'm not sure what possessed you all to handle this in this fashion, without communicating to the community what is happening for so very long.  Whatever the reason is has ceased to become relevant however.  There are some people and customers that you've lost over it.  I know, I know, a couple people don't really matter to your bottom line.  You likely don't care.  That, in and of itself, indicates that you're a whole lot different than the Bioware that operated only a short drive from where I worked in Edmonton.  It's a shame that you've seemingly changed from a company that cared about its customers to one that, seemingly, sits back and laughs at the negative emotions you've provoked in your audience while letting them stew in those emotions.

Yeah, you'll say you're not laughing and you're collecting feedback and all the other things a company says when they try to avoid damage.  But actions speak louder than words and, in this case, your actions have spoken quite loudly indeed.

Signed,
A concerned and somewhat sad customer.

Well, news is heard.  That "Final Hours" app that is selling pretty much confirms the endings are, in fact, the actual endings.  I suppose I'm adjusting my own personal timetable up a bit.  I was incorrect in believing that the endings were some form of red herring.  It seems that they were, in fact, the real deal.

Bioware, you've lost a customer.  I'll be joining my two ex-guildies.  I won't be purchasing another one of your products.  I'm mostly upset with how you've handled this mess, but knowing that you purposefully set out to destroy the endings and go against everything you said the series was about.....unforgiveable.  While I harbor no doubts as to you suddenly deciding that you've done something wrong and changing things, I just wanted you to know the reason that you've lost a customer of, roughly, a decade.

Signed,
An ex-fan and customer of Bioware.

[LyletheBloody]

The person who said "Fight for the Lost" was definitely in tune with the majority of fans. I think most of us feel lost right now.

[PX6DEVASTATER]

I honestly loved Mordin's sacrifice on Tuchanka, granted he was my favorite character, but it felt appropriate. Also, being able to actually peacefully resolve the Geth/Quarian conflict made me quite happy.

Also, finally seeing Tali's face.

Modifié par PX6DEVASTATER, 15 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[pat311]

Despite all the negative feedback Bioware has been getting for the endings (which are a little confusing in their current state) I must say that overall the game was pretty stellar. By far the best out of the series. The Reaper vs. Thresher Maw... priceless. I loved every moment I spent on Tuchanka. And being able to go inside the Geth Consensus... brilliant. The moment Shepard and Tali had together after the battle for Rannoch was won was touching. Again, great job on making a stellar game. I look forward to hearing what Bioware has to say about the endings once everyone worldwide has had the opportunity to experience them. I'm sure we won't be let down. And way to go on creating an ending that has led to the kind of debate currently going on since the release of ME3.

Modifié par pat311, 15 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[its the beast]

Thanks for listening guys! Props, and can't wait for future updates....
as for my favorite moment, well i could never do that to such an amazing experience but.. if i could narrow it down to a few it would most definitely be all of the rannoch quests, as well as tali, (LI, interactions, everything) and legions death to mention another. It was so beautiful, too bad the endings made it all for nothing
But all in all, it was the most fun i've ever had in a video game, period. And replaced ME2's spot as my all time favorite game .
But you guys are already working on a fix, amiright?

[BratacTealcorg]

cinderburster wrote...

JulienJaden wrote...

cinderburster wrote...

lucidfox wrote...

Akael_Bayn wrote...

...yeah, we're not stupid, you know?
Don't give us this "We don't want to spoil things for people who aren't done BS.  How about a straight answer about where all the many and varied endings we were promised went?

This.

What happened to all the talk about "no bespoke ending that everyone gets"? What happened to "no shoehorning into ending A, B or C"?

Oh, well, see, they didn't shoehorn us into A, B, or C.  They shoe-horned us into 16 variations of A, B, or C that have only superificial differences and an inconclusive five-second plot twist.

Actually, they shoehorned us into Red, Blue and Green, which is COMPLETELY different from A, B and C. 

Seriously, though, it's not even 16. If you're feeling generous, it's 6. And in reality, it's one, plus your favorite color.
Unless you're colorblind. ... In that case, it's really just one ending.

So, Bioware: STOP HARASSING THE COLORBLIND!

Hahaha good point. 

sign..

I still laugh and than after i cry, when im reading  the Interviews of Casey Hudson

[Shadow-Novus]

http://social.biowar...ndex/9999272/32

And the Firestorm spreads.

Bioware, what the HELL are you up to

[Moirai]

My favourite part...?

Sorry, Bioware, you haven't earned the right to know my favourite part.

Just as I don't appear to have earned the right to an intelligent ending that leaves me feeling satisfied with all my choices.

[Lemonite]

I just appreciate that they are talking to us at all.

All of you guys that are lashing out and saying "'We're listening' doesn't mean 'We care'" and garbage like that are only deteriorating the situation. Everyone just calm down. Wait for some serious news.

This is our very own crucible, folks.

[Damazig]

If the ending remains as is, I'm afraid to say, after having bought all your games, from all Baldurs to all Neverwinter, all Mass Effect and Dragon Ages, ME3 will be the last Bioware game I buy, and most likely canceling my SWTOR account.

You can create the best Epic saga ever, which you did, and you can end it as bad as you did, and even say that its yours, and we can't do a thing about it. But I as a customer can also say, this will be the end of Bioware for me. Its not that it was a sad ending, it was crap and with no logic, unless there is more coming, and we are all in fact "indoctrinated".

If this was in fact how you wanted to really end it, shame on you, it was a really bad ending. Not compared to the entire epic saga ME is, no, its bad compared to ANY other game or story out there.

If there is more coming, and you can amaze us all... it will have been an unprecedent move, showing a lot of guts, but it was way too risky if it was truely intended.

Still, here's to hope!

Hold the Line! and remember, what we do in life, echoes in eternity!

[Virginia Blend]

You're listening? Oh thats wonderful! I listen to things too being a waiter and all. But, you know what I do when my customers tell me the food sucks? I FIX it. I could listen to them all day but if I don't FIX the problem I could get fired.

So instead of saying you're listening why don't you tell us what you are doing to FIX the problem.

[CommanderWilliams]

Thanks for all your feedback guys. We read all it, but I never said we gave a ****.
~Casey Hudson

[TheRealMithril]

I loved all three games, and I still do. They are amazing. I can even live with the crappy colors (as they are the ramblings of a dying mind) but I don't accept not being able to finish a game I purchased. There is no way around it. This is not an ending, this is like.... oh well, I don't give a **** anymore and flips the light switch... Honestly, did SWTOR take so much of your resources?

[SandMan2012]

Not so surprisingly it seems the number of people left unsatisfied by the endings grows as people finish the game. There is so much left out, so much left unanswered. And god bless whoever is answering all the twitter stuff, its amazing they keep up with so much of it.

If there's one thing I have learned it is to never give up hope. On that note, Hold the line! keep hope for some closure!

Modifié par SandMan2012, 15 mars 2012 - 08:17 .

[Xerkysz]

TheRealMithril wrote...

@Xerkysz: I am truly happy you enjoyed the endings.

Feel free to theorize all you want, but this is not about Indoctrination theories any more.
This is about a company so stuck in it's ways they don't see what is happening. The time to stop is now... not later... it could actually be too late already. This whole issue have gone too far.

Don't think for a minute that this haven't reached EA heads at this point.

Facts are there, play through the game, don't be lazy, take notes, figure it out yourself, stop being moronic, and it is about indoc, as everyone wants new endings, yet they are too blind with rage that they didn't get the ending they wanted (Because it's not the end of the game yet...) to realise that BioWare indoctrinated them because they are too lazy to figure it out for themselves, they don't listen to the people telling them that, with all facts present, but if BioWare said it, by god they would all bow down. 

Stop being idiotic lazy morons and wake up. (Goes for the entire community)

And with saying this, it's 6am, I must sleep.
Enjoy being Husks!

Modifié par Xerkysz, 15 mars 2012 - 08:12 .

[moonlightwolf]

 Favourite moment wow that a hard one since 99% of the game is absoloutely amazing seriously loved every minute of the experience minus the the last 10 minutes. Mordin, Legion those moments brought me to tears, hell most every companion had their moments. Seeing how I'd changed Jack, EDI and Joker, the tragedy on thessia.

Everything was so perfect and then it came to the end and was left feeling like all my choices and all my companions sacrifices mean't nothing. I expected tragedy but the endings just left me empty.

One of the greatest games of all time but pretty please change that ending.