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LiarasShield wrote...

if you keep trying to insinuate a problem you will be reported soon

Then report me.  I have not insulted anyone. I have not not insulted the staff. I have posted my opinions and have done so in a respectrful manner. I have stsed several times that some things with the ending can be better explained for all of you I just dont happen to need it. I have also NEVER called another poster a name or activaly asked for them to be silenced yet we all see who does this. I came back cause I got to thinking. If I stay silent I let other tell me what I can belive or say. Not going to happen.

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Not really gonna deal with problem makers on this thread in particular nor am I gonna repeat myself a thousand times if you want to see why a lot of us have issues with the ending then check the first link under my signature and if you love the ending that is fine but trying to ****** of other fans who may have valid reasons for not liking the ending is not acceptable

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me and 3dand in particular have talked to you alot thanatos and you keep acting like your better then everyone who doesn't like the ending again if you love the ending or can't add anything decent to the thread topic then don't be here *shrugs*

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and you haven't moved on with your life cause you're still here trying to pick a fight or argue with people again so really you aren't mature as much as you pretend to be

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I have never acted better. I have defended my position. There is a difference there.

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I posted my response and unless he has something to add to the discussion, I will ignore him. It's better that way. He assumes he knows all, sees all, is all, and that no one has the right to continue discussing things if he doesn't like it. From now on, he's just background noise.  When he's the one buying my games, he might have a say in how I discuss them-well, even then he wouldn't, but last time I checked I was the one that bought my copy of ME3.

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Mass Effect 3 is by far my #1 favorite game. No complaints about an ending from me. The story was genius. It is so hard to pick just one moment from the game as a favorite. If i had to choose i would say the start of the Reaper invasion on Earth. I felt the terror of the attack even after i left Earth i felt a definite urgency throughout the game.
Bravo to bioware on making such an awesome game i will never forget.

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yeah when has that been thanatos so far I have never seen that from you

Either way the circular logic with the catalyst who either says he created or controlls the reapers and saying all the created will repel against their creators does not make sense because the reapers who were created or controlled by the catalyst still commit the mass genocides that he wanted or impuned into the reapers and they haven't destroyed him or the citadel

The Geth never wanted to figh the quarians but did fight when they started to destroy their race and the geth only continued to fight them because of the reapers rewriting the geth code and network making the geth hostile towards the quarians and shepard again the logic doesn't work here cause the moment shepard breaks the reaper control and if shepard can convince the quarians to stop firing the geth will help rebuild rannoch with the quarians so the logic doesn't work because the geth want to help the quarians and the reapers have always been obedient of the catalyst up to this point


Yes are alot of us mad because shepard dies Indeed and yes I do feel that our choices or our perfomance doesn't matter indeed I do cause wether you play well or not it doesn't change anything you still get 3 illogical choices to either destroy the galaxy or the galactic community so even if the relay explosions don't destroy the entire galaxy all the races are stranded in the middle of space and will most likely starve to death and die or end up killing each other

And no they can't just use ftl to get back to their planets because ftl uses a extreme amount of fuel and without the fuel stations which were right by the relays if you played mass effect 2 are most likely gone so you can count ftl out and even if they do get close to their planet they wouldn't be able to descend onto their planet or make a good landing without fuel to pilot their ships so they can have the breaks work or so they won't crash landing into a firey ball of death and die

Are we mad that we don't get any closure with the characters we spent with for the last 5 years indeed am I mad that my war assets don't show up or that they don't affect the ending in any real way that the performance is me2 could have everyone live or die or somewhere inbetween because in this the performance doesn't matter because everyone will either be stranded in space and most likely die besides all the relays destroyed so they would be trapt near a dieing earth and not being able to go home

So in short performance doesn't mean anything cause everyone is still screwed and all forms of transportation are gone no matter what

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And no thanatos I haven't seen you adding onto the conversation just trying to be condescending that is about it

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
You truly don't grasp it yet do you? You asked for something and Bioware
gave you something. It wasn't what you wanted.......so what?You learn a life lesson that you don't always get what you want.


Gee, thanks so much.  I needed you to tell me that.  For the record, I am probably old enough to be your mother.  I have worked in jobs where I have talked people down from committing suicide.  I have worked in jobs where I have debrided the wounds of real people, one being the gaping chest wound of a man who tried to bear the pain so he could be brave for me and where I saw the brain matter of a young man run out of his nose because he'd been hit in the head by a factory fan..  I have worked in jobs where I had to comfort the parents of a 16 year old boy, who was driving a car and was killed.  I had to try and tell these parents (the father had broken his hand by slamming it through a wall) that they could somehow still go on.

I have worked a job where I had to listen, helplessly on the phone as an intruder raped and killed a young woman that was seeking help, before help could arrive.

I have buried both my parents (gave my dying father mouth to mouth resusitation, had my mother die before my eyes, and dealt with the suicide of my sister) and somehow had to figure how to still get up in the morning.  I have cared for a family friend who died of lung cancer and watched as she tried to talk to the dead through a television remote.

I live with the most gentle soul in the feline world, and the wisest-an animal that I found the week my mother passed away.  I convinced myself that she came to me when I needed her the most.  I now must sit and try to deal with the fact she has 2 inoperable brain tumors, and deal with the hurt in my heart that one day this wise soul will leave me all too soon.

I have dealt with physical abuse at the hands of an older brother who beat me because I looked at him.

I have helped friends who have had family members that contemplated suicide and found relief that in some small way I may have indeed helped stave off such decisions.

I have helped raise my brother's children and watched with pride their growth into adulthood and anguished over struggles along the way.  And many of these things I have done while sacrificing the life I might have had-though I never have shared that concern with anyone along the way.  I gave up having my own children.  I gave up much, but got so much more in return.

So, yes I do need you to tell me that I may not always get what I want.  I have had a really hard time figuring that out.  Thank you so much for consistently coming on here and telling us all we need to get a life, move on, accept the fact that we can't always get what we want.  I so cherish your wisdom and hope you will regale us with more along the way.  This is my "DUH" moment.

Nothing else to say.......

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Archonsg wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...


didnt edit it, like i said he said synthetic life, google the word. and i just did the end on mine again to be sure i wasnt, he says you can wipe out all synthetic life even the geth, even you are partly synthetic. but he doesnt say and most of the technology. put time into the game and get your ems higher.

You know you couldhave CHECKED the scene on youtube before putting your fooot in your mouth right?


Ahh so we were both right. 
Hmnns.
So, what then do you take it to mean when it said "...even you are partly syntethic."
Wouldn't that mean the Quarians who are part cybernetic die as well?
What about patients with implants, or with synthetic parts?
The signal that goes out, must have an arbitary "line" that detects "this is syntethic, this is not" yes? Or does it just look for EZO signatures and fries anything that uses EZO? 

Seriously, even though your "higher" ems version might not say it in so many words, but if you stop and think, doesn't it comes back to the same thing? "You are partly synthetic" ... meaning Shepard's medical implants. Meaning tech at a certain level, yes? Anything at that level and above goes bye bye, don't you agree?


yeah i dont know , because shepard can survive. and one ending you can see tali getting out of the normandym these are questions that shouldve been answered lol

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LiarasShield wrote...

yeah when has that been thanatos so far I have never seen that from you

Either way the circular logic with the catalyst who either says he created or controlls the reapers and saying all the created will repel against their creators does not make sense because the reapers who were created or controlled by the catalyst still commit the mass genocides that he wanted or impuned into the reapers and they haven't destroyed him or the citadel

The Geth never wanted to figh the quarians but did fight when they started to destroy their race and the geth only continued to fight them because of the reapers rewriting the geth code and network making the geth hostile towards the quarians and shepard again the logic doesn't work here cause the moment shepard breaks the reaper control and if shepard can convince the quarians to stop firing the geth will help rebuild rannoch with the quarians so the logic doesn't work because the geth want to help the quarians and the reapers have always been obedient of the catalyst up to this point


Yes are alot of us mad because shepard dies Indeed and yes I do feel that our choices or our perfomance doesn't matter indeed I do cause wether you play well or not it doesn't change anything you still get 3 illogical choices to either destroy the galaxy or the galactic community so even if the relay explosions don't destroy the entire galaxy all the races are stranded in the middle of space and will most likely starve to death and die or end up killing each other

And no they can't just use ftl to get back to their planets because ftl uses a extreme amount of fuel and without the fuel stations which were right by the relays if you played mass effect 2 are most likely gone so you can count ftl out and even if they do get close to their planet they wouldn't be able to descend onto their planet or make a good landing without fuel to pilot their ships so they can have the breaks work or so they won't crash landing into a firey ball of death and die

Are we mad that we don't get any closure with the characters we spent with for the last 5 years indeed am I mad that my war assets don't show up or that they don't affect the ending in any real way that the performance is me2 could have everyone live or die or somewhere inbetween because in this the performance doesn't matter because everyone will either be stranded in space and most likely die besides all the relays destroyed so they would be trapt near a dieing earth and not being able to go home

So in short performance doesn't mean anything cause everyone is still screwed and all forms of transportation are gone no matter what

So? you have stated these things over and over and over and over and over and over. Some I agree with most I dont. but that matters little with the reality with the fact that bioware answered your complaints by giving us a extended cut.

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but Nay they havent because the broken circular logic and the catalyst trying to use this broken logic to trap shepard into these 3 choices to destroy the galactic community will still be there they aren't fixing any of the core issues with the catalyst only trying to add onto the catalyst trying to throw some other writing at already bad writing that isn't what a lot of us want

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and Unless they really do make actual character performance matter like it did in mass effect 2 people espically some hard core fans like myself who didn't love the ending because of the big issues that I see as problems will still have issues lol

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Which boils down to you not getting exactly what you want..........

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well hopefully they can see this is bad for business and find a better way to fix it. I mean if they did do a dlc for a new ending, ppl that don't want it do not have to buy or download it. They are probably going to lose money if they do not try to fix this problem with the amount of people that find it hard to play through again because of the ending.

If what the articles say is true and it was just casey hudson that wrote the ending hopefully he doesn't drag down the trilogy we all love but refusing to address the problem. But that is if the rest of the writers we left out of the loop

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supply and demand. if ppl want it you supply it

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wether shepard lives or dies make are actions matter if a player worked really hard and gathered fleets and all the possiable war assets they can then in the good destroy ending if the relays do get rebuilt then let him or her be able to find his or her crew and reunite with love interest

If A player only did so so then have shepard die but have the relays be rebuilt so that the other races can go home and so we can see what our actions have done

and If I played did terrible or just rushed through it have shepard die and the reapers destroy all our forces or the alliance wins but all the relays are gone and everybody dies

Have performance matter again and give us a reason why I should work on my high ems or try to get all these war assetd

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ghost9191 wrote...

well hopefully they can see this is bad for business and find a better way to fix it. I mean if they did do a dlc for a new ending, ppl that don't want it do not have to buy or download it. They are probably going to lose money if they do not try to fix this problem with the amount of people that find it hard to play through again because of the ending.

If what the articles say is true and it was just casey hudson that wrote the ending hopefully he doesn't drag down the trilogy we all love but refusing to address the problem. But that is if the rest of the writers we left out of the loop

That would depend on what happens after the DLC is released. Unless you
all have clairvoyance we are all going to have to wait and see.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Which boils down to you not getting exactly what you want..........



See that is your reply for everything when their is a issue then it is because your not getting what you want but in mass effect 2 character performance ment something I mean you played the very same damn game right since you have it registered?

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LiarasShield wrote...

wether shepard lives or dies make are actions matter if a player worked really hard and gathered fleets and all the possiable war assets they can then in the good destroy ending if the relays do get rebuilt then let him or her be able to find his or her crew and reunite with love interest

If A player only did so so then have shepard die but have the relays be rebuilt so that the other races can go home and so we can see what our actions have done

and If I played did terrible or just rushed through it have shepard die and the reapers destroy all our forces or the alliance wins but all the relays are gone and everybody dies

Have performance matter again and give us a reason why I should work on my high ems or try to get all these war assetd

Performance matter in how you get to the crucible.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

well hopefully they can see this is bad for business and find a better way to fix it. I mean if they did do a dlc for a new ending, ppl that don't want it do not have to buy or download it. They are probably going to lose money if they do not try to fix this problem with the amount of people that find it hard to play through again because of the ending.

If what the articles say is true and it was just casey hudson that wrote the ending hopefully he doesn't drag down the trilogy we all love but refusing to address the problem. But that is if the rest of the writers we left out of the loop

That would depend on what happens after the DLC is released. Unless you
all have clairvoyance we are all going to have to wait and see.


yeah i know but with their silence all we have to do is grasp at straws. i know they can't release info that spoils something, which is why ppl come here and talk about what might happen

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no it didn't no matter how high or low your ems is or what terrible choices you make you can still get to the crucible no matter what character perfomance didn't even matter in that let alone the ending with the catalyst

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LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Which boils down to you not getting exactly what you want..........



See that is your reply for everything when their is a issue then it is because your not getting what you want but in mass effect 2 character performance ment something I mean you played the very same damn game right since you have it registered?

You got the same ending in three seperate ways in ME 2.........Not a strong argument. Now granted they did do a better job of hiding the fact that the game ends the same no matter what.

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When it should've because it did during the final parts of the collector base in mass effect 2