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[3DandBeyond]

Anyway, Claudio, I think many will agree that until we see the Extended Cut, a case can be made for indoctrination. There are certainly some ways it could be worked out and explained (they could even explain away any inconsistencies), so if you believe it's possible. It is. It's just as valid or even more valid than what we now have, in my opinion.

[xjmz250]

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

[3DandBeyond]

xjmz250 wrote...

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

We don't have the heart to tell him he's been playing a different game from the rest of us.
He thinks the star kid is Mario.

We know that Joker and Hammer and all the organics assembled to kick reaper butt, understand that this may be a zero sum game at best.  Or, at the end everybody would be sipping Martinis on that Jungle planet along with Joker.  The logistics of the whole Jungle planet scene alone creates the suspension of all belief.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 28 avril 2012 - 05:01 .

[Thanatos144]

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

[xjmz250]

3DandBeyond wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

We don't have the heart to tell him he's been playing a different game from the rest of us.
He thinks the star kid is Mario.

We know that Joker and Hammer and all the organics assembled to kick reaper butt, understand that this may be a zero sum game at best.  Or, at the end everybody would be sipping Martinis on that Jungle planet along with Joker.  The logistics of the whole Jungle planet scene alone creates the suspension of all belief.

I actually just finished an awesome article posted i think on the last page about how the entire ending has so many dream like qualities and it was well worth reading because even though ive seen all the Indoc Theory vids i can get my hands on this still had a few more little details that i hadnt picked up on.

But honestly Thanatos needs to realize that his arguments are like tose we were having with the star child. His way is the right way and no matter how many different pieces of hard evidence we could present, we arent allowed to and are given the ultimatum that he is right and this is how he sees the world and that is final. Except at the very least the star child gives us "choices" based on his logic

[xjmz250]

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

[Thanatos144]

xjmz250 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

We don't have the heart to tell him he's been playing a different game from the rest of us.
He thinks the star kid is Mario.

We know that Joker and Hammer and all the organics assembled to kick reaper butt, understand that this may be a zero sum game at best.  Or, at the end everybody would be sipping Martinis on that Jungle planet along with Joker.  The logistics of the whole Jungle planet scene alone creates the suspension of all belief.

I actually just finished an awesome article posted i think on the last page about how the entire ending has so many dream like qualities and it was well worth reading because even though ive seen all the Indoc Theory vids i can get my hands on this still had a few more little details that i hadnt picked up on.

But honestly Thanatos needs to realize that his arguments are like tose we were having with the star child. His way is the right way and no matter how many different pieces of hard evidence we could present, we arent allowed to and are given the ultimatum that he is right and this is how he sees the world and that is final. Except at the very least the star child gives us "choices" based on his logic

What the hell makes you think that? Because I am taking the countering opinion? should I just agree with everything you say  and only that is disscussing things? Why would I state your point of view when it isant mine?

[Thanatos144]

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

LEFT FOR DEAD. just like Joker did in the end of this game.

[xjmz250]

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

LEFT FOR DEAD. just like Joker did in the end of this game.

How is that left for dead? Shepard WAS dead. Not clinging to life and left to die. 100% DEAD. The Illusive Man brought him BACK TO LIFE, not nursed him back to health. Shepard was just as dead as Presley and every other crew member who was KIA aboard the SR1. Left for dead means he was still alive and they left without him, not he was already dead and they just didnt retrieve the body yet.

[Thanatos144]

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

LEFT FOR DEAD. just like Joker did in the end of this game.

How is that left for dead? Shepard WAS dead. Not clinging to life and left to die. 100% DEAD. The Illusive Man brought him BACK TO LIFE, not nursed him back to health. Shepard was just as dead as Presley and every other crew member who was KIA aboard the SR1. Left for dead means he was still alive and they left without him, not he was already dead and they just didnt retrieve the body yet.

they knew as much then as they did at the end of this game....

[xjmz250]

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol

  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

LEFT FOR DEAD. just like Joker did in the end of this game.

How is that left for dead? Shepard WAS dead. Not clinging to life and left to die. 100% DEAD. The Illusive Man brought him BACK TO LIFE, not nursed him back to health. Shepard was just as dead as Presley and every other crew member who was KIA aboard the SR1. Left for dead means he was still alive and they left without him, not he was already dead and they just didnt retrieve the body yet.

they knew as much then as they did at the end of this game....

So the point u were supporting is shot down and you resort to they know just as much? Its a different situation with different consequences and different stakes. Noone cares about the reapers or were even considering fighting them at the start of ME2. In the end of ME3 EVERYONE is fighting them. its not the normandy getting attacked by collectors. Its every race against the reapers. Noone should have left PERIOD. Its not in jokers personality to do that nor is it with the rest of your crew. Even james, the new member, was angry at you for leaving earth. Why would he leave again when it matters even more?

[3DandBeyond]

Thanatos144 wrote...

I am sorry did they go back for the
body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took
the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think
about it.

Ok, I need to correct a glaring error here. Liara started searching for Shepard BEFORE Miranda contacted her about Cerberus' agenda and suggested Liara work for TIM, rather than let the Collectors get the body.

Read Redemption. Liara picks the lesser of 2 evils and also does so because Cerberus might bring Shepard back to life. Joker could never physically have looked for Shepard and even if he could he had no resources to do so. Unlike Liara, he also could not have protected himself if he had to fight off anyone that might interfere. Liara could have sought out Shepard's crew and friends for help, but the search might have delayed finding Shepard before it was too late.  Liara also did not have the money to do all that needed to be done.  TIM wasn't paying her so she could make money. 

So the idea that no one would look for Shepard because they didn't do it before is flawed., no it's garbage.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 28 avril 2012 - 05:53 .

[claudio]

[quote]xjmz250 wrote...

[quote]Thanatos144 wrote...

[quote]xjmz250 wrote...

[quote]Thanatos144 wrote...

[quote]xjmz250 wrote...

[quote]Thanatos144 wrote...

[quote]xjmz250 wrote...

[quote]Thanatos144 wrote...

[quote]Redbelle wrote...

[quote]Thanatos144 wrote...

[quote]LiarasShield wrote...

I just don't see why thanatos can't see a core issue espically with character perfomance and stragetic decisions since he played mass effect 2 lol[/quote]  Oh I see your point of view about how you think charectars should have acted.....I just think your wrong. Maybe the extended cut will help you understand the decision for joker to take off or for people to leave shepard for dead. It isnt something new for them. They did it before as well.
[/quote]

Extended cutscence content will add more context to the scenes that do not carry the player. Joker fleeing the battlefield being one of them. I've come up with alot of explanations for why he did it...........buuuuut.....

None of my explanations are canon. It's all extrapolation based on what I know of Joker, normandy, the battle the galaxy and everything. BW should have done a better job of carrying the narrative at the end. They have carried it before with style and control of the story. The ending just feels like a rushed mess of good ideas and bad ideas that never got distilled, forged and polished like the rest of the trilogy.

[/quote]So Joker never would have left shepard for dead?????The entire first part of ME2 begs to differ. Now All my explinations are mine....They could be wrong but it is what I see as happening.
[/quote]

Really? Joker left Shepard for dead at the start of ME2?

Last time i checked i put his ass in an escape pod and hit the launch button MYSELF. Joker had no say in the matter. I kicked him out to save his life. He didnt abandon me so that he would live, he was yelling Shepard as the doors closed. So no, your logic is as backwards as the star child.

[/quote]I am sorry did they go back for the body?????Did they check to see if shepoard was dead????? Nope It took the Illusive man PAYING liara to get the body for them to even think about it.
[/quote]

I would like you to explain to me how that is abandonment though? If they watched Shepard get spaced and he literally was dead, then how is not recovering the body or the rest of the normandy abandonment? Noone on the SR1 was abandoned. Because if you really think hard about it they give you a mission to collect ALL the tags from the crash site, place a memorial for all of those who have fallen, and collect your old helmet. So no, he wasnt abandoned. The Illusive Man simply picked his body up before the Alliance.

[/quote]LEFT FOR DEAD. just like Joker did in the end of this game.
[/quote]

How is that left for dead? Shepard WAS dead. Not clinging to life and left to die. 100% DEAD. The Illusive Man brought him BACK TO LIFE, not nursed him back to health. Shepard was just as dead as Presley and every other crew member who was KIA aboard the SR1. Left for dead means he was still alive and they left without him, not he was already dead and they just didnt retrieve the body yet.

[/quote]they knew as much then as they did at the end of this game....
[/quote]

So the point u were supporting is shot down and you resort to they know just as much? Its a different situation with different consequences and different stakes. Noone cares about the reapers or were even considering fighting them at the start of ME2. In the end of ME3 EVERYONE is fighting them. its not the normandy getting attacked by collectors. Its every race against the reapers. Noone should have left PERIOD. Its not in jokers personality to do that nor is it with the rest of your crew. Even james, the new member, was angry at you for leaving earth. Why would he leave again when it matters even more?

[/quote]

because it's a non-sense dream......there is no teleport in ME and with the collapse of the mass relays Joker cannot fly away and take the earth-squad members at the same time....it's impossible XD

[xjmz250]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Ok, I need to correct a glaring error here. Liara started searching for Shepard BEFORE Miranda contacted her about Cerberus' agenda and suggested Liara work for TIM, rather than let the Collectors get the body.

Read Redemption. Liara picks the lesser of 2 evils and also does so because Cerberus might bring Shepard back to life. Joker could never physically have looked for Shepard and even if he could he had no resources to do so. Unlike Liara, he also could not have protected himself if he had to fight off anyone that might interfere. Liara could have sought out Shepard's crew and friends for help, but the search might have delayed finding Shepard before it was too late.

So the idea that no one would look for Shepard because they didn't do it before is flawed., no it's garbage.

Thank you

I was trying to prove my point a little too hard and left out major details in the process. Thank you for the support, actually if you didnt say anything i would have probably continued arguing for a while like that

[3DandBeyond]

In fact, it's Miranda that tells Liara Shepard is dead. And then tells her Cerberus might be able to help.

[LiarasShield]

again just check the first link in my signature it will explain my main problems other then the fact that their is no victory in this game

[xjmz250]

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

[3DandBeyond]

xjmz250 wrote...

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

I am going to right now.  Lack of sleep last night made me almost forget it.

[Voodoo-j]

claudio wrote...
OMG LOTS OF QUOTES

So we can say, Shepard is still on Eden Prime and was Indoctrinated by the first Protheon Beacon.

Anything with indoctrination leaves everything completely open, and nothing can be made any sense of.


The only thing that makes sense to me, is that they want ME 4 to pick up in the after math. Where it takes a year to travel across the galaxy if you want to get somewhere, and you supposed to be stuck in some backwater.  
Either that or someones ego wanted their own personal ending and be damned for everyone that doesn't like it.
Possibly they are pushing people to play the multiplayer, which will only last for so long.  Halo ODST tested the Multiplayer of player vs ai matches.  Yes they were fun, but you tire of them.

Bioware has never ended a game like that, at least not one I've played.

When they finished up Dragon Age, they left it completely open to the story the player made with the exception of killing the dragon, and turning back the blight.

Be the King, marry the queen someone else be the king, you die, someone else diles.. multiple other possibilites and love interests outcomes.

Mass Effect was the space age Dragon Age.. ME 1 2 3 (with the exception of the very end)
So why ****** with everyone that wants the options to end the game as they are expecting, take the options from them that makes replaying the game for the joy of stimulating your imagination by playing multiple possibilities of various endings from replaying the game.

If somebody comes to this forum and doesn't understand that than there is no hope for them, to understand anything, they have their OMG I'm a FANBOI blinders on.

I want to have the ending where I die, where I live.. and various other factors that playing all 3 games takes into consideration of all the choices made during those 3 games.  I want to replay the game multiple times with multiple outcomes.

[xjmz250]

3DandBeyond wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

I am going to right now.  Lack of sleep last night made me almost forget it.

Idk if you have the datapad app but if you do make sure you turn it off before tomorrow as well as avoiding the game and all BSN forums for the day tomorrow

[3DandBeyond]

xjmz250 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

I am going to right now.  Lack of sleep last night made me almost forget it.

Idk if you have the datapad app but if you do make sure you turn it off before tomorrow as well as avoiding the game and all BSN forums for the day tomorrow

Yes, I have The Final Hours and the game on iPad.

[3DandBeyond]

claudio wrote...
OMG LOTS OF QUOTES

Actually all the quotes is kind of reminiscent of the star kid's circular logic.  A circle within a circle within a circle.

[LiarasShield]

xjmz250 wrote...

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

I didn't know their was one today

[JM459]

My favorite moment in the game was on Ranoch, right after you took down the Reaper and had  the choice to allow Legion to upload the Reaper's software to the Geth or let the Quarians destroy them. Tali is my favorite character in the Mass Effect series, but at the same time, I believed in giving the Geth the chance at actual life. After all, the Quarians shot first. I literally stared at the screen for ten minutes before I made my choice and I must say, I am so glad to be a Paragon. I felt like a total Badass after making peace between the Quarians and Geth and everything I wanted Tali to have finally came to be. On top of it all, I got to say @#$% you to the Reaper's ideology of the created destroy the creators.

As for "The End"

Bioware, I remain faithful. I admit, I scratched my head a bald spot after I chose the Red option, but you guys have your reasons for everything. Until the final say is delivered from you guys, or you tell one more story of the Shepard, I will play this game until my Xbox explodes and do my best to understand "The End." You have your reasons for "The End" and I respect them.

Keep on kicking ass Bioware.

[3DandBeyond]

LiarasShield wrote...

xjmz250 wrote...

3D and LiarasShield, are you guys participating in the Retake event today?

I didn't know their was one today

It's an on/off event.  Turn on play the game today-single or multiplayer and turn it off tomorrow.  I am so bad, don't have the link but gamespot had info on it.  There's also a thread here somewhere about it.  Supposed to twitter that you are playing today and tomorrow that you aren't.