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[StElmo]

Remake ME3. I'll pay another $60

[3DandBeyond]

daveyeisley wrote...

@3dandbeyond

Thanks for the response. I am 99.9% certain that saving the council, wrex, and the rachni result in a net gain of war assets.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/War_Assets#War_Assets

Note the entries in the Alien section for the Rachni outcome, the Asari section for the Destiny Ascension/Alliance fleet outcome, and the krogan section for the Wrex/Wreave/Genophage cure outcome.

I've just read some things that contradict these things.  Not disagreeing with you since I don't actually know.  But, I always made the choice I thought was the decent one.  Saved Wrex, council, rachni.  Cured g-phage, destroyed geth heretics, allowed Legion to upgrade geth, and so on.  I did destroy the Collector base and there was one mission (I can't for the life of me remember which one) in ME2 where you get some info (maybe it was from Overlord) and I did not give TIM that info.  What happens is EDI says it will take at least a year to decode or something like that.  So, I really don't know what that is and if anything ever comes of it.

This to me is a really glaring oversight-that you really do need to play multiplayer and I think it's potentially one of the worst.  It's just the fact that they don't seem to understand that some people just plain cannot afford a high speed internet connection and so don't play online.  Other people don't like to.  But, it seems to be where the overseeing company may be most trying to point things.  It is what drives microtransactions. 

[Voodoo-j]

DashRunner92 wrote...

I'm printing this out and sliding in the front of the game case!!!

[daveyeisley]

Also, dont get me wrong.... I ended up playing Multiplayer out of fear that I would miss the best ending (being worried about this also made me a little irritated), but I ended up liking the Multiplayer until it got kind of boring/repetetive. I am N7 450 or something.... but the random nature of the upgrade packs has really turned me off....

I just cant for the life of me get the stuff I want, and I keep seeing other folks with the toys I wish I could have...

If I wanted to grind for weeks and weeks in the hope of "teh epik lewts" or "teh purpulz", I would reactivate my WoW account.

They really should have just made a store interface where you can specifically pick what you want to buy with your credits.... would it have resulted in a majority of folks running around with the same gear? Perhaps (depending on how the pricing was layed out and balanced with the mechanical benefits of each item). Would that be preferable to folks who get frustrated at not being able to get 'lucky' with upgrade packs? Absolutely.

All that aside, yes... I have gotten my readiness to 100% and fired the ending sequence with a military strength of over 8100 (+900 gained from all the multiplayer promotions), and since I didn't want to have to keep shooting Marauder Shields (each time I screw it up and get killed, I just chalk it up to me feeling bad about killing him because he is trying to save me from the pain of the ending lol) When I finish the conversation with the Catalyst, I turn OFF the autosave feature in the game options(I play on Xbox 360) so that when I make my choice, it doesnt overwrite my save and I can then turn the game off before the end of the Stargazer convo (again to avoid having my autosave overwritten). And then go back to check out how the other 2 endings play out.

I've done all 3. Multiple playthroughs, EMS over 8000, having convinced TIM to cap himself, and having shot him myself. Ive seen the 'gasp'.

Though in the wiki it seems to indicate the "best" ending is "supposed" to be Synthesis.

Regardless of that and all the problems with it.... my problem is that without multiplayer, I dont think you can actually achieve EMS 4000.

I am darn near certain of it.

Before the 900 points I gained from Multiplayer, I may be missing about 100 points or maybe even 150 points, but there is no way I am missing out on 650 or more war asset points. Thats would be like missing a whole main plot mission.

[3DandBeyond]

Ok, time to get really stupid here again.  I mentioned this before but want to bring it up again.  I want to talk about fish.

I did play the ending again for turn me on saturday and got to Harbinger, hit by beam, limped to go to citadel.  I know that one of the indoctrination theories uses in some minor way the lanscape that Shepard sees after waking up half-charred on the way to Marauder Shields.  They point out the plants that are there that weren't there before.  Well, what they remind me of is seaweed in an aquarium-the way they kind of are 2D and wave slightly back and forth.

I am interested in all the instances of fish being mentioned and there are a lot. 

• Krogans in ME2 argue about fish in the lakes of the Presidium.  You can tell them there aren't any or buy a fish to give them.
• Fish as pets-I thought I read where someone said that fish give you war assets-I haven't gotten that.
• The term "fish in a barrel" is used repeatedly in the game
• In ME3, everytime you look out a window of the Citadel it looks like an aquarium. 
• There's a scene when you go on the elevator to get to Purgatory Bar where the camera zooms out and the plants there look like they are in an aquarium.
• The shuttles flying by have the profile when seen at a distance of a fish.
• The Reaper ships themselves look like the Cuttlefish (not strictly a fish, it's a mollusk) that eats fish and other cuttlefish.

I apologize to anyone who has read all this before, but I bring it up again because I just want to see what other fish references there are.  It doesn't create any kind of theory, but it may just be a metaphor they tried to develop.  If so, it's really oblique.

[Sarah Knight]

ah the people with the "INDOCTRINATION THEORY" again this is the real "funny laughable thing i see every time"

how much weed have you people been smoking really? Enough to make you guys soo friggin stupid to really believe "some Fan" that made the damn vid and you guys thinking he made sense in truth he or she or even better "THE SHEMALE" was right on the entire Mass effect series Intruth They Wer off soo many details that they DO NOT understand the Game Fully because M1-3 never ever based off that theory Should i believe the Rachni Story was based off every game? no because it was only in the codex as was the Said "indoctrination theory" Me1-2 was never based on that if you really listened to the story line you pot heads you'd understand that Me2 Was explaining how the collectors wer Kidnapping entire colonies and how they Shifted their focus on us including cmdr Shepard they wanted him/her Alive in the Arrival DLC For their personal army and to make shepard their slave Me1 was explaining the characters storyline and how shepard made him/her to be the hero/heroine the galaxy needed or even Menace for those who went renegade.

but Honestly people Don't believe everything you people See or here on Youtube Majority of the people their are either Posers "hence the sr2 Vid of (9/11) people on that website want attention they dont want anything to do with you or any one else really So if its not Music related Dont believe them because 9/10 times their some one who made the vid themselves with random tidbits of things that are from the game and made by them which in a sense is "illegal" to do if bioware caught them in the act they would of been fined for it and you'd hear me laughing throwing crap at them for it.

[daveyeisley]

There is also a conversation with Javik where he mentions he wont tell the crew what food he eats and then asks if you really keep fish in your cabin.

Ironic side note:

Javik throughout the story is single-mindedly focused on his hatred of the Reapers and his purpose/need to gain vengeance by destroying them.

He is also the crew member most vehemently condemning synthetic life and artificial intelligence and that organics should never create or allow them to be created or given free will because they always rebel and will betray and destroy organics.

The irony is that the Catalyst seems to agree with him about the dangers of synthetics, and the Reapers are in effect protecting organics from such dangers. Faced with that information, would Javik agree, or still choose to destroy them?

I am betting he would still destroy them, because he could also destroy all the non-reaper synthetics, and being a 'prothean supremacist' and 'racist', he probably wouldn't mind a little genocide.

So its ironic that in fact, he isn't any better than the monsters he wants to kill.

[3DandBeyond]

daveyeisley wrote...

.......
Though in the wiki it seems to indicate the "best" ending is "supposed" to be Synthesis.

Regardless of that and all the problems with it.... my problem is that without multiplayer, I dont think you can actually achieve EMS 4000.

I am darn near certain of it.

Before the 900 points I gained from Multiplayer, I may be missing about 100 points or maybe even 150 points, but there is no way I am missing out on 650 or more war asset points. Thats would be like missing a whole main plot mission.

A great many people think that it's the best ending since you don't (well you do) kill anyone.  EDI lives, the Geth, and so on.  But, it is so full of holes as a best ending and as a choice Shepard would make as to be preposterous. 

In the 10 Reasons we hate the ending video, the guy puts it better than I could.  But, here goes:  Synthesis radically changes every living (synthetic and organic) being against their will-they have no say.  It's a flawed logic that it's the only way for everybody to get along.  The star kid says it's basically the final step or end to evolution.  But, that means it removes individuality and the motivation to strive for things, for something better.  There are people that say that we have no reason to think that, but the game gives us no reason to think otherwise.  The synthesis and what it does to all life is based upon the star kid and his reaper-vision.  So we just trust that he's going to make all life "happy little robots."  Nuh uh.  Who's to say the synthorganics that then exist wouldn't be sent to seek out life in other galaxies to harvest?  And who would trust that that wouldn't happen?

Best is really in the eye of the beholder.  The reason that people grab onto that gasp with all their might is partly because it appeals to those that want Shepard to live and love again, but they aren't the only ones.  If you want to see Shepard sacrifice it all, if that makes sense to you, then the gasp ending still seems to promise that the game is not done, or that something happened after.  The other endings just indicate it's over and Joker is making whooop  whooop with your love interest or EDI or both on a Jungle planet.  The other point is that considering the gut-wrenching decisions Shepard must make (stupid and gut-wrenching), destroy is the only thing s/he has consistently been after.  Control has never been a desire and Synthesis strips everybody of their uniqueness.  Destroy is about the only way for Shepard to maybe make somebody happy.

I can't really say there is a best ending since they all suck so my determination of best is just about Shepard.  I'd like to think I could get to an end where it's possible for Shepard to live.  I don't see anything wrong with a happy ending since I get so sick and tired of artistic meaning someone has to die and be venerated for their sacrifice.  BS.  I see that on the News.  At least in fiction, I'd like to see reality suspended (space magic) work for something I care about.

As far as MP and EMS-same here and I've read all over the place about the upper limit without MP and have never read where anyone has been able to positively prove they can get to 4,000.  Most end up somewhere just south of 4,000.

[3DandBeyond]

Sarah Knight wrote...

ah the people with the "INDOCTRINATION THEORY" again this is the real "funny laughable thing i see every time"

how much weed have you people been smoking really? Enough to make you guys soo friggin stupid to really believe "some Fan" that made the damn vid and you guys thinking he made sense in truth he or she or even better "THE SHEMALE" was right on the entire Mass effect series Intruth They Wer off soo many details that they DO NOT understand the Game Fully because M1-3 never ever based off that theory Should i believe the Rachni Story was based off every game? no because it was only in the codex as was the Said "indoctrination theory" Me1-2 was never based on that if you really listened to the story line you pot heads you'd understand that Me2 Was explaining how the collectors wer Kidnapping entire colonies and how they Shifted their focus on us including cmdr Shepard they wanted him/her Alive in the Arrival DLC For their personal army and to make shepard their slave Me1 was explaining the characters storyline and how shepard made him/her to be the hero/heroine the galaxy needed or even Menace for those who went renegade.

but Honestly people Don't believe everything you people See or here on Youtube Majority of the people their are either Posers "hence the sr2 Vid of (9/11) people on that website want attention they dont want anything to do with you or any one else really So if its not Music related Dont believe them because 9/10 times their some one who made the vid themselves with random tidbits of things that are from the game and made by them which in a sense is "illegal" to do if bioware caught them in the act they would of been fined for it and you'd hear me laughing throwing crap at them for it.

Guess I don't get your point.  Are you anti-indoctrination theory?  If so, it may interest you to know that that was one of the things the original ending was going to focus on.  You may also want to stop using the over the top insinuation that because some people think it makes sense, it's like they are smoking too much weed. 

There are many things that point to it.  The problem is that Bioware seems to have ruled it out (but not completely) and the things that point to it might be just laziness in not redoing certain areas of the game.  They make a good case that it's possible, so don't out of hand dismiss it.  There's a lot of stuff that has been implied throughout the games that do make it possible.  The whole end scene from Harbinger's beam onward is so full of chronological as well as just plain logical holes that it seems to be a dream or a hallucination or something else. 

And in light of posts where people are so sure that it's not indoctrination, I'd think it funny if it was.  It makes more sense than what we have and it would be so easy for Bioware to retcon anything that did not fight really well.  Shepard's different from others who've been indoctrinated and people don't know everything about indoctrination-2 ways they could explain things away.

No one else as yet has been able to make more sense of the ending as it is, so IT can make sense.  And there's way more than one video on it-there are numerous blogs and videos regarding it.  They make a good case.  I personally wouldn't like it for other reasons than that it isn't possible.

And apparently these people are the first to ever post any video game content on youtube.  Game companies do not go there, because if they did all of the fan videos that are like free advertising for them would have to stop as well.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 30 avril 2012 - 08:45 .

[Thanatos144]

I cant wait till the extended ending then at least you all will have something almost new to complain about......Also it will put a end to the Indoctrination idiocy.

[LiarasShield]

thanatos again we have decent reasons and issues why we don't like the ending once again if you like the ending then why are you in a thread about people who don't and you can't say you have moved on because you keep coming back to this thread

[Archonsg]

@daveyeisley
I see Javik as a character that of one who would mirror the Renegade "do whatever it takes, the end justified the means" Shepard. A point of view which is tainted by years warring with the Reapers. Which could have been a very interesting POV, had the character been allowed to have been fleshed out more. More conversations, conversation as in Shepard talking to and interacting with, instead of eavesdropping or Javik dropping the player a line or two.

Again, it felt like the devs made this and other characters with the "interactive" portions at the minimum possible. Ashley for example, I can't be the only one to feel that she was mofe like a non squad npc then a "love interest" npc given the amount of interaction you actually have with her.

Romance isn't just a about popping Shepard's thermal clip.

[C04L]

whats this 'extended ending' talk about? have bioware confirmed they are going to expound on the ending? and thus give it more meaning/understanding?

[sirstikay69]

C04L wrote...

whats this 'extended ending' talk about? have bioware confirmed they are going to expound on the ending? and thus give it more meaning/understanding?

Old news, its going to add more cutscene and dialogue, but thats it.

[LiarasShield]

I do hope thee extended makes our sacrifices worth it and that we can have a ending that is a victory instead of a defeat and perhaps maybe shepard can get a good ending in the good destroy ending but yes for all the assets we got doing the loyalty missions and all the other stuff I really do hope thee extended touches up on that

[C04L]

so i know theres not going to be a ME4 but what about dlc, have they written that off?

i cant beleive im not gonna get new ME anymore...

comic books, = meh

Modifié par C04L, 30 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[LiarasShield]

and funny comment kay69 with sovereign lol

[LiarasShield]

well if shepard lives in the good destroy ending in thee extended then they probably will make a me4 and say that the good destroy ending was the cannon one if not then I can't see why continue to make mass effect games when the main protagonist is gone unless we get to play as one of the squad members being able to play as liara in me4 would be cool if shepard isn't the main protagonist anymore

[C04L]

well i suppose thinking about it that the big bad ass' of the galaxy have been defeated (destruction). what else do you write about?

I do hope BW come up with a new sci-fi game... i want another awsome series to follow now....

..and clint mansell's score, its so breathtaking, makes me yearn that i never ever played the ME series, so i can play it all from scratch once again. i got that gutted feeling

I'l miss Shep.

Modifié par C04L, 30 avril 2012 - 09:14 .

[daveyeisley]

I know and have researched, and even agree with the multitudinous problems with the synthesis, control and destroy endings.

My analysis of the endings as presented is that control offers the best outcome, even if it is abhorrent to sacrifice Shepard to control the reapers, thus letting them continue to exist. They would however, become a force of good rather than a galactic scourge.* (see comments below on the "death" being a transformation in reality)

It sucks that the reapers get to live, but I think thats better than destroying the Geth and EDI. Also if Shepard is wrong about synthetics, at least he could still have the reapers around as a failsafe to help the organics if they ever faced extinction... or, god forbid, vice versa... nothing says that organics wouldn't possibly come to conflict with the sapient synthetics and eventually try to commit genocide on them.

The enslavement of a sapient race is also terrible, and the reapers do qualify, however.... they are already enslaved by the catalyst.... whatever those civilizations once were... they are now slaves to this ridiculous and reprehensible "Cycle" of illogic.

Shepard would be a more merciful master. If the millions of individual minds of those civilizations still exist inside their respective reapers... on some level they must find the harvesting process abhorrent, only the first reaper might have done such a thing to themselves voluntarily, the others were not given a choice as far as we know... and Shepard could release them from such a mandate.

At least with Shepard in control, he could guide them to a better purpose. They are all that remains of the greatest civilizations of their Cycles, so destroying them is a little sad in that aspect. Maybe, just maybe, Shepard can make their being harvested actually mean something to the greater good and future of the Galaxy. Destroying them would make their deaths almost meaningless, other than the release from enslavement, and that is one of the most horrible aspects of the Cycle itself - countless millions upon millions of senseless, meaningless deaths.

*This is of course, all provided that Shepard's death is actually a transformation of some sort (which is sadly not explained or even hinted at, but if he dies for real, then his mind no longer exists to control the reapers which makes even less sense than the other 2 endings).

I imagine that he is replacing the Catalyst. In the control ending there is a brief flash where as Shepard's body disintegrates, the catalyst also sort of dissolves into thin air. I think of this like Shepard taking over, and becoming  an incorporeal, immortal force/entity with control over the citadel and the reapers. A kind of ascension to a higher form, which is kinda cool and appropriate for Shepard in a way... even though he never wanted or asked for it. (dont get me wrong I would still rather him live and settle down to have many blue babies).

The fleets may be trapped in the Sol system without mass relays to get home.... but if Shepard has control of the reapers.... he can communicate with the fleets.

Tell them what happened... and using the reaper's 2-3 times faster than standard FTL cores, he can help get people home (after shutting off the indoctrination signals of course lol) and also gather needed resources, etc..... he can even allow the relays and reaper's tech to be studied, so that the scientists who built the crucible can try to engineer a new version of the mass relays.

There are more than enough reapers left and spread throughout the galaxy that Shepard could use his control to save and protect almost everyone who survived the battle. Even find his lost friends who left on the Normandy. Then consider the technological benefits gained from studying reaper tech for a few hundred years. Medicine would improve, communication, travel, many many benefits. And Shepard could still 'exist' in order to continue guiding the galaxy away from self-destruction (with the help of the most powerful armada of all time as a deterrent - thank god for the treaty of Farixen, eh? lol - if the council races hadn't signed that, they might have had enough dreadnoughts to win conventionally, damnit).

The dreams shepard has, also sort of hint at this. The final dream is definitely sending a message. Each dream definitely involves guilt over the lives he could not save... and chasing the little boy is again Shepard chasing the goal of trying to save everyone. That last dream has a double meaning, I think.

If you embrace the boy/catalyst, you "die".

If you try to save everyone, you "die".

Both of which end up being true. The only way Shepard lives, is if he relinquishes his honor and stops trying to save everyone.

In the end, with this interpretation... the Illusive Man may have failed... but he was right about the solution... and he saved Humanity and the Galaxy by saving Shepard.

Modifié par daveyeisley, 30 avril 2012 - 09:44 .

[luzburg]

i just have to say that it seems bioware is not listening regarding the ending and a protest on this scale should have an effect but it seems that someone in bioware has a ego the size of a dreadnaught

[3DandBeyond]

C04L wrote...

so i know theres not going to be a ME4 but what about dlc, have they written that off?

i cant beleive im not gonna get new ME anymore...

comic books, = meh

Well to be honest they never said there wouldn't be any ME4.  It's just that ME3 is the end of Shepard's storyline-not necessarily Shepard and the main game isn't even necessarily the end of ME3.

To complicate this further, they have said that any new ME game would not take place chronilogically after ME3, but would be something that occurs at the same time as ME3,2, and 1 or sometime before.  With this ending, it's harder to convince people that would be something to buy. 

What it all boils down to is that the "buy some DLC" screen after the "ending" where it said that you could continue the story, may indicate they always intended to continue Shepard's story in DLC content, and originally perhaps paid for DLC, which makes people a bit angry.  It's the idea that they knew the game was not finished and that in order to finish it you would have to buy DLC.  That is conjecture, but that screen seems to point to it.

[Redbelle]

In know I keep posting these but BW have had a panel of people talking about the Extended DLC, the ending and beyond.

http://venturebeat.c...-so-angry-fans/

If after reading through the above your worried about no new ending I have maybe some good news. The writing team is working with the cinematic team on new content. If this is the writing team who were not responsible for the ending then we have the ppl who wrote the majority of ME3 in the story driving seat. Maybe they can spin gold from CH's straw.

Modifié par Redbelle, 30 avril 2012 - 10:10 .

[Mercedes595]

Got some bones to pick, so i will do it consecutively

@ Sarah Knight and her/his HATE towards the Indoctrination Theory.
I have this to say: First there is absolutely no need to use this level of harsh language. Second although I personally dont believe the IT i guess there are a lot of people unable or unwilling to be content with the endings they got and are looking for a way to make the nonsense 5 minutes make a little more sense. Other then that, I just couldnt make sense of the rest of your post other then your hate of the Indoctrination theory.

@ people who think forcing us to play MP to get all 3 endings (such as they are) is wrong
Well, I guess there are some people who are diehard opposition of any kind of multiplayer. To the others who troll against it just prove a nonexisting point, try to play the multiplayer. It might surprise you that its just as good as the singleplayer, plays kind of same as singleplaer, only you get squadmates you cant control, but generally they are better then the AI.
I guess moderate - fast internet connection is still not standard everywhere, but I thought ME3 needed internet connection to play.... so if you are ok with that, i guess multiplayer shouldnt be too laggy.

@ people who think the "Destroy" option is best because there is a shot of someone wearing N7 tags breating
Well, let me say this. Only the hope for an ending with sunshine and unicorns could make someone believe that that was Shepard breathing. There is a lot of arguments around the internet, some of which are - no concrete on citadel, citadel being destroyed, fall to earth would kill anyone, StarChild said even the "Destroy" option would kill Shepard... so lets face it whatever you do people,HE/SHE is dead. I think Shepard dead is the only logical option possible. Dont get me wrong, i loved the series, and i loved the characters and i really invested emotionally into the story, but it is kinda hinted through ME3, that this is the adventure Shepard wont be coming back from.

For me, "Destroy" was always the "bad" ending - an easy escape, taking all synthetics with you. "Control" is slightly better - you sacrifice only yourself to drive the reapers away, but not braking the Cycle. It may be, that the reapers will never return, but maybe they will. Still there now exist lots of data on them and how to defeat them. The "Synthesis" being the most illogical (let me come to that later), but is supposedly the best ending. Nobody but Shepard dies and there is sure to be lasting peace between former organics and synthetics. This breakes the Cycle for sure and there wont be any more reaper attacks.

3DandBeyond wrote...

Synthesis radically changes every living (synthetic and organic) being against their will-they have no say. 

As to that Shepard already has to make a choice for everybody without their consent... thats kind of the point there. Thats why its so big decision (if it were not for the colored stupidity, Bioware calles the ending to a perfect game), because there is nobody to confere with and nobody to advise you... you make decision for the whole galaxy duriong all 3 games,so this should not come as a shocker.

3DandBeyond wrote...

It's a flawed logic that it's the only way for everybody to get along.  The star kid says it's basically the final step or end to evolution.  But, that means it removes individuality and the motivation to strive for things, for something better.  There are people that say that we have no reason to think that, but the game gives us no reason to think otherwise.

Then count me in with that group of people. Pure synthetics strive for perfection (ehm, Geth wink, wink), they evolve through improving their programming etc. So this would not be the end of evolution, just the evolution as we know it i guess. And as it does not make oganics into pure synthetics, but something between, there goes the "not unique" argument.

@ people who think there should be much more dialog options with the StarChild (history, reasons....)
Have you been watching the sky lately? There are ships of your allies being totally shredded by the reapers  all around you, there are people dying on the surface and you would like to dispute philosophical issues you have with the VI (yes I am certain the StarChild is a VI not an AI)? OK, for you there should be a fourth ending:
 
- The Whole galaxy is ashes, Reapers return to where they came from after harvesting all advanced civilizations and the last thoughts of all those dying at the reapers' hands was: "Where the hell is Shepard?"
Camera goes back to the Citadel and there stands Shepard still arguing with the StarChild: "Hell, I dont care for your damn choices!!! I wont move an inch until you answer me some questions.... "
 

But you know what i find interesting? People think the problems with the ending ( one of them being not taking into consideation what you do until then) starts with the dialog with the StarChild. I disagree. My alarm for things being incomplete or not as they should be went off as all the allied fleets got to earth and I was wondering where the hell did the Geth (who made peace with the stupid war-hungry quarians) take the wrong turing. Would that be  so much to ask for as i assume that there was a possible animation of the fleet with no quarians if they all died to add another possible animation with the geth present? Of course there is the argument of the Geth not wanting to go near reapers, because they would get hacked again, but what was then the point of making them a war asset...... Ideas anyone?

Then between the fights on the surface Shepard got to talk face to face with his whole squad. I guess when the last part of the battle started the ones you did not take with you went to sleep or made a house party, because i didnt see them anywhere. What then was the point of taking with me all those people???? Remember ME2 ending? Where you had the sense that all your squadmemebers were in danger, but doing what they could to contribute to the team effort. I mean there was a second squad, the biotic and tech specialist, and even when you went for the bossfight the others were left behind to guard your back. I mean that was brilliant. In no other game I know was this mechanic used. Always you just choose the alllies you want on your squad and the others just go and sit around a campfire or some such.
On this note I might be mistaken, but during the mad dash to the beam I saw only humans participating. Perheps all the alien allies who were on the surface with me (notably the krogan soldiers) were standing around out of range for the reaper laser to hit them and rolling around laughing at the stupid humans.
Oh and to the allies on the surface theme: where were the geth again? If you gain the Geth as assets, you can read this in the War asset window:  
                  All geth platforms are armed, shielded, and built to withstand combat. When they're on the battlefield, enemy tactics and positions are swapped instantaneously between the AIs. The geth also employ turrets and drones-"expendable" hardware support to keep losses of networked platforms to a minimum. The result is the largest, and perhaps best equipped, infantry in the galaxy.
Man, I am so glad i have the largest and perhaps the best equipped infantery in the galaxy with me in this fight. Otherwise it would be hopeless..... oh, wait. The Geth did not make it to Earth. Probably mistook the Mass relays and ended up somewhere in Terminus Systems, stupid synthetics........

And finally (got much more issues with the ending, but have to make it short -er), how does synthesis work???? Does Joker get robotic legs? Or perhaps he gets a new synthetic brittle bone skeleton
Oh wait, got a better question. Bioware, do you mean to tell me, that by choosing the synthesis and merging energy of my Shepard (Human) with the energy of the Citadel/Crucible would make synthetics out of all life forms AROUND THE GALAXY??? You mean even the quarians and turians who cant eat the same food? You mean even the Volus, who are an ammonia-based lifeform???  Now that is what I call Space Magic!!!

Thats not all, but i have to finish sometime.....Sorry for the length and some (perhaps many) mistakes in spelling.

Modifié par Mercedes595, 30 avril 2012 - 11:05 .

[Theronyll Itholien]

Been playing Risen 2 since the weekend. Forgot about Mass Effect since a few weeks ago. The saga.. its universe.. it's dead to me.

I don't know how, call it a traumetic experience, but I somehow managed to just delete my ME memories. Granted.. saying I deleted them is like telling someone not to think of a pink elephant.. but nevertheless, I hardly ever think about ME again. I probably won't get the Extended DLC but just watch the crap on YouTube someday.

ME is dead to me. BioWare is dead to me.