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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.


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#1951
TheSneric

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toto314 wrote...

my favorite moment was when I found this


haha this is great

#1952
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 Loved 95% of the game. The way the game was delivered was epic. I love the new mechanics, animations, how consequences from the previous games were shown in ME3. Just like the rest however, the endings pulled me way off.

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I enjoyed the mood of the game. I felt like I was walking into hell, saying goodbye, with my best friends. Some of my favorite moments in no particular order:

* "Date night" and reunion with LI Kaidan. My Shep didn't romance anyone in ME2, even though he broke her heart on Horizon.
* Mordin's death. I sensed it was coming, but I was still moved by it when it happened.
* I was so thrilled to see Legion again. Then realized I was going to lose him, too. Brokered peace between the Quarians and Geth. This is one of the reasons I was so upset over the ending. I proved the Reaper kid's theory wrong.
* Kicking Cerberus butt with EDI.
* I laughed when Kaidan said he was sure he never met an Ardat Yakshi because he would have been toast.
* Shooting contest with Garrus.
* Drunk Tali!
* Farewell with Garrus at the end.
* Farewell with Liara.
* Farewell with Tali. I was really moved when she said vas Normandy was once held over her head as a badge of shame by the Admirals, and then it saved her people.
* EDI telling me I was her model on how to be human.
* Taking Garrus and Kaidan with me into the London warzone. I agonized on whether to take them with me. Thinking that it was a very real possibility that anyone I took with me would die, I wondered if it would have been better to leave them behind. I knew there was a possibility that this was going to be the end for Shepard, but it was a somewhat comforting thought that my best friends might live on, even if I didn't. For the most part, Kaiden and Ash were the ones I took through ME, and Garrus was my go-to guy on almost all of my missions in ME2. In the end, I figured there wasn't anyone else that I'd rather go to the ends of hell with, even if it was a one way trip. I figured they wouldn't have it any other way, either.

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I enjoyed the game and will make another character to see more of the game. Thank you

I was more sad to loose Mordins, Tali, Legend, Rex covered in blood, No relationship with Ashely because she in hospital and became a spector. Did not find Thane. My Ship Dog can not follow me off ship.

Can not wait to see what you have for DLC.

Will have give the online play a try :o

#1955
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sircaren wrote...

It was pure brilliance.

Until the ending.



Ditto to this.

#1956
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RustyMcBlade wrote...

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Some stupid statistical data, show that end game are not so important. All that just show the opposite, how is very important for core gamers ( who pay you lots and more... ), expecially in a RPG game like Mass Effect.

2nd it show what does mean to have lost one of the Mind of Bioware: Drew Karpyshyn, not so involved in ME3 as last book with huge problems too.


yeah, bring Drew Karpyshyn back!


Drew, it seems you were the blood and bones of this series, as much as Shepard was.

#1957
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Valk72 wrote...

Someon should make a thread to calm down the fans, it's really beginning to get out hand!!


That's what this thread is. B)

I understand that these things can't happen instantly, and they can't talk about it yet if they *are* working on things. I appericate that they took the time to start this thread, though they will lose me as a customer if this isn't addressed more.

Which will it be bioware? Ignore, Refine, or Synithisis? 

#1958
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Please just look at the work you did on the ending and tell me if it was the best you could have put forward. So many glaring plot holes based on lore that BW has developed.

Just please... watch this video.. it really does sum up everything we're all thinking about:



Meaningful choices and ramifications for ALL of our actions in the games and closure.

#1959
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AleshCZ wrote...

sircaren wrote...

It was pure brilliance.

Until the ending.


This. I really can't believe you thought it a good way to end the trilogy.



Admittedly, this is why I felt (and still feel) betrayed by Bioware about the endings. Mass Effect 3, as a whole to me, was probably the best game of the trilogy. Just the random moments (Tali getting drunk, Ashley hung over, Vega and Garrus jawing, Garrus and Tali getting in some... calibrations) were awesome. Also the fact that, unlike ME2, my FemShep was able to talk with potential LIs without having to worry about betraying Liara in some way. The game play was very fun, and I loved the really touching character sacrifice moments along the way (Thane, Legion, Mordin). It felt like we were getting a "yes, sacrifices are made, lives are lost, but we will HOLD THE LINE!" About all that was missing was Shepard screaming in Trafalgar Square, "GIVE UP NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM, EVERYTHING!!!" :o

And then the last ten minutes happened. :sick:

Seriously, the fact that game reviewers might have been sucked into the endings being "awesome" (did they play the same game?) doesn't mean most of us bought into the nonsensical nature of the ending as it currently is. There are too many excellent criticisms of that ending for me to reiterate in a 77-page (and counting) thread. But I would like to say that I appreciate Bioware is attempting to listen. Please do something about it.

#1960
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Thanks for listening Chris, I'm glad to hear it and I hope BioWare will do something to fix this. I defended you guys from the naysayers on these forums after ME2. I still very much want to believe that you are worth defending.

My favorite moments, gosh, as many here have said, it's a whole series-full of them. Just focusing on Mass Effect 3 alone:

(1) Squadmates taking shore leave on the Citadel and interacting with each other on the Normandy. It adds a level of realism, and the dialogue was crafted up to your usual standards. Very much a treat!

(2) Tuchanka! Sweet Lord, Tuchanka! I'm thinking of going into archaeology, so seeing the ruins of Tuchanka was just an amazing treat. I love the Krogan architecture. Since I destroyed the genophage data, Eve's funeral hit me very hard. She was easily one of my favorite characters.

(3) Learning that the Protheans were the Romans x10. "Games of chance were punishable by death in the Empire" is one of my top videogame lines of all time.

(4) Watching my united fleets pour out of the Sol Relay, especially the Destiny Ascension. I love that ship!

(5) The geth and the quarians getting along and helping each other rebuild. That, and Legion's sacrifice to bring the geth to true consciousness, were incredibly touching.

(6) Shepard's conversations with EDI. So well done. Shepard's look of abject horror when EDI joked that she'd forget to recycle the Normandy's air of she learned something truly fascinating made me cringe!

(7) Jacob talking about wanting a family, and promising to do better than his father.

(8) Thane's death. A proper way to send out one of the best squadmates of the series.

And then the ending happened. Like many here, I'm holding out hope that this is an elaborate ruse. I'd like to use the stronger word "faith" instead of "hope," but I can't, not right now. Right now BioWare is in the position vis-a-vis the fans that Shepard was in with Wrex if the genophage data was destroyed - we want to believe you're still on our side, but only actions will prove that. But thank you so much for listening regardless, it means a great deal.

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DarkDoz wrote...

I enjoyed the game and will make another character to see more of the game. Thank you

I was more sad to loose Mordins, Tali, Legend, Rex covered in blood, No relationship with Ashely because she in hospital and became a spector. Did not find Thane. My Ship Dog can not follow me off ship.

Can not wait to see what you have for DLC.

Will have give the online play a try :o


I'm guessing you didn't play ME1 or 2? And who...is Rex?

#1962
inFam0us

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''You are taking away our future. Without future, we have no hope.''

I direct this sentence straight to all the bioware developers out there.

#1963
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As it stands right now, killing Kai Leng is the highlight. It meant nothing in the long wrong but I could take out all my frustrations out on him.


Everything else I like is tainted by the horrible ending. Every time I try to think about the other, fantastic parts, my mind keeps zipping to the ending and the good memory is tainted.

#1964
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In the words of Wesker. CHRISSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1965
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slammed on Amazon. Childish, maybe. But way more satisfying than the endings of the game.

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malakim2099

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Oh, and I also do like your multiplayer for ME3. Even though I haven't had the heart to do anything with ME3 after finishing it on the 360... I still can play multiplayer with a quarian infiltrator with a Widow rifle that appears to be as big as she is.

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Honestly everything was a great moment until the end. I want closure!

#1968
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i liked ME3 for a paragon, i had the ending wich left me alot to think about, i liked it alot.

for my renegade not at all. no-prohuman options or anti-alian thing atall. eventough in ME1 (terra firma) and ME2 (less then in 1) had the oppertunity to roleplay a pro-human shepard.
non of this reflects in ME3 wich is a pitty,

the gameplay is awesome and the krogan genophase was one of the few moments i actually had a tough time :P and im not an emotional guy at all ! i geus investing 100+ hours into a single run (ME1,2,3) really gotten me into it.

great game, love it. just wish the endings were more...

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inFam0us wrote...

''You are taking away our future. Without future, we have no hope.''

I direct this sentence straight to all the bioware developers out there.

Wasn't that one of shepards' last lines?

Yes I agree:)

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Glad to hear something somewhat official, and I can sort of understand where you're coming from on wanting to give people more time to beat the game...But seems like you're hoping that'll mean more people will like the endings...But, my favorite moment, which oddly enough is in the ending, is the look on Liara's face when she flashes up. Something about that expression just hit me hard, especially after losing Mordin, Thane, and Legion, scenes that I also really enjoyed.

#1971
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I loved 99% of the game. It was perfect, the pinnacle of story telling. Up until that last point. Every thing else was just a work of art.

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Alright, prepare for a airing of grievances much like those posted before.

Going through ME3, I had few problems. My characters hair, thats my fault: the lack of a neutral option in conversations, I never picked those anyway; the lack of Harbinger, like at all, was a bummer.

Everything else about the game, could be said to be great or near perfect. Heck I didn't have a problem with the ending at first. As it turns out, you don't need a last boss battle. The last scene with TIM was amazing. Shepard and Anderson telling each other that it was over, touching. All the shades of ME1 going through those last scenes and a sense that the fight was about to be over.

Then Hackett said that nothing was happening, that Shepard had to do something. Then theres a magic floaty elevator and with that the ending started going bad. It could have been saved, if not for two things that bugged the life out of me.

Ambiguity and the destruction of the Mass Relays.

Starting with the latter, this is a device that effectively ends the Mass Effect universe as a viable IP. There is no more exploring the galaxy. EVer, maybe. There may not even be much of the galaxy left.  THe fleets stuck at Earth, the Quarians who will never again get to the recently liberated Rannoch, no one being reunited with loved ones who had fled their planet. THe Normandy crew included, in fact they got it way worse.

That's a pretty good lead in to my other point, ambiguity. Why was the Normandy in the middle of mass relay jump? Was my team running away? How does Bioware propose to get them off Random Unescapable Planet #4325 without a relay? Or are we supposed to be cool with them dying out there. Stranded. With no way back.

Speaking of dieing, what happened to the squadmates running towards the Conduit. Are they gone? What about Allers, Adams, Traynor, and the Space Hamster? That half of the Normandy doesn't seem to exist, so was everyone crowded on the bridge?

I'm actually more okay with Shepard dieing in this case, because with no relays he will never see any of his loved ones again. Because they are either dead or standed in a fashion that leaves them unable to see him. Ever again.

Then there's the Starchild, who explains everything we know about Reapers but does it in a more nonsensical manner. And suddenly that lack of dialogue options seems really bad.

I may have hoped for an ending where the Crucible is plugged in and it just starts lasering Reapers. Or even just go through with what they have but without the relay destruction so that the Galaxy can recover, in any capacity. maybe Joker can give a funny line about needing a pick up from Random  Easily Escapable Planet # 4325 . But no. After a heartened speech about how the one thing we have over the reapers is friendship and all that, we have our friends left in a vague probable death scenario.

Alright, seems a bit drawn out considering it's two details that I didn't like but the real clincher is thatthese were the planned endings. I had hoped that these were a rushed change to make up for the script leak. If so then Bioware just reverts to plan A. But nope. There was one plan from the start. The "Hurt Fans Because Because!"

Destroying the Relays was a bad bit of plot development. It's not like the war wasn't costly enough without the entire galaxy going bad. And ambiguity leads to a lack of closure. It leads to a lack of conclusiveness in the conclkusion of my favorite game series.

I was kinda on board with the endings, but not anymore. Not like this.

I am hurt. Saddened. Or maybe just bummed. Just venting maybe.

Still Holding The Line I guess.

Modifié par Zebron is reaL, 15 mars 2012 - 10:18 .


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Just wondering... if you destroy a mass relay it takes out the system it was in and there was a mass relay in the Sol system, dose that mean earths doomed no matter what?

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I know you guys at Bioware are up to something. I can smell it. There's just far too many plot-holes and little things which just dont fit with the rest of the Mass Effect universe for this TRULY to be the end... Sneaky devils. In essence you've "indoctrinated" us all into believing this is the end. That there is no more to this tale. But I know better... And in a couple months, when you release the ACTUAL ending? I'll be able to say I saw it coming a mile away.

Also, anyone interested, check out this link. Gives quite a bit of credence to the fact that the Commander will be back.

http://www.thevine.c...le20120314.aspx

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Bioware are the reapers, and we organics, we are human, and hope is what makes us human. So lets not stop here people, we will not have it their way, we will have it our way! We will save the mass effect universe, the fan-base united!

HOLD
THE
LINE.