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3DandBeyond wrote...
CAP198462 wrote...
I didn't hate the ending. It is kind of episodic and it doesn't always mesh the episodes together well, but it is not terrible. Is it how one might want the game to end, no. On the other hand it is very much in line with recent science fiction with the whole transhumanism thing. It was a bit more heady than gamers were expecting, and that is writers obscessed getting involved with a topic that most people do not care about. Sorry guys, no hate from me but you fell into the trap of reading about raising your consciousness about an issue, and you assumed that because you care about it everyone else does.
Ok, not trying to start a fight but using the word "heady" implies people didn't expect intellectual thought in an ending. I don't think you meant it so, but it is a bit insulting, especially given the discussion that takes place on these forums. Literary professors have found fault with the structure, the context, the cohesiveness within the ending and I daresay they are "heady" thinkers. Show me the intellect there.
Show me the intellect in the idea that the created will always rebel against and thus destroy the creator, therefore the creators must be destroyed before the created can destroy them. Again, not trying to be antagonistic, but this is stupid. If within the game there was never a geth/quarian conflict or if Shepard could never reunite them (among other things-there might be a real creator/created point with the Krogans/Turians/Salarians as well), then maybe that sentence might not be so stupid. No, it still would be. Shepard was all about getting people together even if it was only to fight reapers.
To your point about transhumanism. No, that isn't it. If you are referring to Synthesis, well look inside the game and see who espoused it. Sovereign, Saren, even TIM and Cerberus in their relentless disgusting experiments. But beyond that Mordin discusses it in relation to the Collectors and describes just how it leads to stagnation of all culture-right before he discusses art and music. He describes how advancement comes from necessity and adversity-needing to move things, inventing the wheel. He is talking about how it makes beings grow, within themselves for one thing.
And this is not a new concept in sci fi at all, it is as old as sci fi itself. Even the term transhumanism is 50 years old. But beyond that Synthesis gives no one else the choice at all, Shepard is given godhood in deciding this. And it could be reasonably debated that that is exactly what the star kid reaper baby daddy wants. He's not the nice guy in all this, trying to help Shepard. He can't be-he's been sending Reapers to kill people. That's not good. Sovereign said the goal was perfection and synthesis, so it can be said the star kid's goal is the same. I'd never do what that imp wants. We accept some synthesis in the form of augmentation done even to Shepard, but as a decision force upon people, all people, no. It isn't for the betterment of all, it just dilutes the uniqueness of the individual. It creates one DNA which at least eventually would lead to lack of diversity as there'd be no need to adapt. The star kid basically says it's the end of evolution.
And it isn't even that people don't want to get involved with the idea of synthesis, but they don't think in the context of these games that that is a sensible choice at all. But neither are the others. And the whole star kid/citadel/crucible piece is so disconnected from the games we've been playing that it's ridiculous. You simply do not change the main characters at the very end of a story. The reapers were the antagonist and in the last 5 minutes of the game, the star kid is. Good writers don't ever do that.
Well, maybe you do mean to insult. Your last statement is about consciousness-raising which again indicates you think everyone that disliked the ending is less highbrow than you. Read more, write less and become informed before insulting others, please.
wow man u killed it. great job. couldnt have said it better or any clearer myslef about the catalyst's created destroying creaters bs....thats just striking in its audacity when you look at it....plus im a wariter, i also pride myself on being an intellectual, thus cerebral,intelligent,etc....and that ending was NOT intellectual boys and girls
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