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Here it is... Ha, I spoke to soon.. they are really trying to suck up.. another free pack.

http://www.trueachie...-on-its-way.htm


To think I would have at least purchased one of them.


Boy, that’s two DLC MP packs released for free. There is your proof that the backlash must be monumental, as we have been saying all along. This gives me some hope they might be correcting and not just fixing the ending.

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Voodoo-j wrote...

Here it is... Ha, I spoke to soon.. they are really trying to suck up.. another free pack.

http://www.trueachie...-on-its-way.htm


To think I would have at least purchased one of them.


They will keep releasing free things that are meant as portals to get you to buy refill packs.   Their next thing is that SWTOR is going to be free to play.  They have to recoup their money somehow so will likely have you pay for things within that, too.  Again, if you look at the Infiltrator app, they use microtransactions within it-you have to pay for good bullets.

I have no problem with that, per se, but I do have a problem that MP is being used to prop up the SP game.  And the fact that they lied about it makes me pretty mad and that never affected me.  I'm mad for other people that have xboxes and maybe can't afford gold memberships or internet and found out the highest EMS they could get was somewhere around 4000, a bit less than.

I've said that even so, had the ending been super great as the game was and had they not truly lied to, misspoke, and then insulted fans, I might have bought 9 more games (3 copies of all 3) and 2 gold memberships for my nephews that can't buy them (one with a new baby, looking for a house and one trying to pay off student loans).

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Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.

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LiarasShield wrote...

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You want to know what noble sacrifice is I'll show you





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A01XGczHIk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyK5r41t1CI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq-0SaMxqk


This is what noble sacrifice really is giving your entire being to save the people you love and care about or giving them hope so that they can carry on and have future to change or protect what has came before and to craft a brighter future



Ultimately heroes should go out like heroes a sacrfice should save the the person or people that your sacrificng your life for and with all the cliff hanger our forces trapt in sol will they be able to make the relays in time we just don't know without assumptions will the reapers if they live eventually turn on us again and commit mass genocide on us all over again most likely can't see really why they wouldn't go back to their old ways but yes cliff hanger all forces trapt around sol system all relays blown up nobody is going home no indictation of anything showing otherwise right now in all endings it feels like the enemy forces shepard to die which ultimately doesn't save us but saves the reapers I can't be ok with this the 90% of fans who disliked the reasons for exactly this reason
or the lies or the plotholes they find thousand or millions of fans wouldn't be upset without valid decent reasons nor would they make giant organizations and give 70 thousand dollars to charity either if they weren't decent people

And I'm passionate fan who has loved this series for a long time so of course people like me and 3dand, voodo and daveyiesly will keep coming back because were passionate about the series and just can't see how it is ok for stuff to go this way


Simply thanatos I quote my on posts so that I don't have to keep saying the same things to you or repeat my self a thousand different times to newcomers who may come to this thread


I guess I must admire some of you who hold on to the illusion of that we won or that our forces will be ok submitting to the enemy creator letting the reapers live so they may in the future kill advanced organics again and for all the relays to be destroyed or disabled with all our forces stranded

Again The flotilla does not have that much resources that is why they send new quarians on pilgrimages to try to find valuable things for the flotilla they barely have enough resources to keep them going since the loss of rannoch let alone trying to share it with a completely other race in the end it would only end up hurting them both then particulary saving one side or another

yeah will free mp dlc is nice But I'd almost pay any amount for a we fight to the end to defeat the reapers and a noble sacrifice of shepard of his or her own choosing not the catalyst and stand his or her ground like he or she has done the entire series ^^

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Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

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LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink


Your giving him too much credit, he doesn't deserve to be compared to a horse.
Although .. in the retuarant he was eating fried roaches!

Modifié par Voodoo-j, 25 mai 2012 - 04:03 .


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Voodoo-j wrote...

Here it is... Ha, I spoke to soon.. they are really trying to suck up.. another free pack.

http://www.trueachie...-on-its-way.htm


To think I would have at least purchased one of them.


They will keep releasing free things that are meant as portals to get you to buy refill packs.   Their next thing is that SWTOR is going to be free to play.  They have to recoup their money somehow so will likely have you pay for things within that, too.  Again, if you look at the Infiltrator app, they use microtransactions within it-you have to pay for good bullets.

I have no problem with that, per se, but I do have a problem that MP is being used to prop up the SP game.  And the fact that they lied about it makes me pretty mad and that never affected me.  I'm mad for other people that have xboxes and maybe can't afford gold memberships or internet and found out the highest EMS they could get was somewhere around 4000, a bit less than.

I've said that even so, had the ending been super great as the game was and had they not truly lied to, misspoke, and then insulted fans, I might have bought 9 more games (3 copies of all 3) and 2 gold memberships for my nephews that can't buy them (one with a new baby, looking for a house and one trying to pay off student loans).


I think my EMS before the mp boost was 5275, not an issue if you play mostly Paragon.

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As for the mass relays and whether or not they rupture, well I know one when I see one and the galaxy map scene that follows seems to indicate at least a very strong shockwave in each system. Everyone's free to their own interpretation, but the fact that there are such polarized views on what happened indicates a problem with the ending.

As far as the choices go again. I've now played the games through fully twice. All 3. On this last playthrough I went back and talked to everyone until they repeated themselves. I wanted to see what they all might have to say that would help form opinion in Shepard. I caught Garrus and Tali smooching. I had some heartfelt moments with Joker. But, man, EDI cuts right through things.

In London, when Shepard is saying final goodbyes, EDI is there and tells Shepard that Jeff may have unshackled her and she learned a lot of things from other sources, but only in that moment did she feel alive and that was because of Shepard. Thank you Bioware for making my only somewhat sensible choice be to kill the child of my better nature. I hate Control because it either makes Shepard into what TIM and Saren were, if only for a brief moment and then Shepard dies-it is godhood. I hate Synthesis because it is another form of Control and godhood and strips away what makes everyone an individual. Shepard tells EDI life isn't just about survival. Mordin abhors synthesis. The reapers are warped versions of it. But moreover it is a choice made by one person that changes trillions who have no say-they might prefer death. If the guts are taken out of what makes one alive (what EDI learned) then life becomes meaningless.

But that brings me back to Destroy. It isn't just genocide. Even for a Shepard that may take a gasp at the end, it is suicide. It's suicide of the soul, the heart. It's saying that this horrible choice that kills people that were just born, that I helped give birth to (depending on a Shepard type) kills Shepard's soul. Sure, Shepard allowed 300k Batarians and that was horrible. It was robbing Peter to pay Paul. And those lives weren't meaningless to Shepard. But, it's death of Shepard's soul by degree. Shepard had minutes to decide and tried to warn the Batarians-futile, but still a protest of what was to come.

In killing EDI and the Geth, Shepard who had just heard from and tried to talk to Hackett, doesn't even try to talk to anyone. "Hey EDI I have this choice to make. What should I do?"

I will say that the only choice I've made is Destroy, but that's because like an idiot I couldn't live with anything that ultimately didn't allow me to think that Shepard lived. So, in spite of my forceful complaint that Shepard wouldn't or shouldn't make a choice (kid could be lying, all choices are no win), I did make a choice. I've seen where others say they have just waited until they got the mission failure screen.

It comes back to it almost seems like those university experiments where they try to see if people will hurt others with an electric shock-the shock isn't real. In the experiments the shock gets worse to where the shockee starts to scream in pain and says s/he has heart trouble. Most people try to stop and do protest, but then go on to shock the other person anyway. That is what I felt like in choosing Destroy.

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Voodoo-j wrote...

Here it is... Ha, I spoke to soon.. they are really trying to suck up.. another free pack.

http://www.trueachie...-on-its-way.htm


To think I would have at least purchased one of them.


They will keep releasing free things that are meant as portals to get you to buy refill packs.   Their next thing is that SWTOR is going to be free to play.  They have to recoup their money somehow so will likely have you pay for things within that, too.  Again, if you look at the Infiltrator app, they use microtransactions within it-you have to pay for good bullets.

I have no problem with that, per se, but I do have a problem that MP is being used to prop up the SP game.  And the fact that they lied about it makes me pretty mad and that never affected me.  I'm mad for other people that have xboxes and maybe can't afford gold memberships or internet and found out the highest EMS they could get was somewhere around 4000, a bit less than.

I've said that even so, had the ending been super great as the game was and had they not truly lied to, misspoke, and then insulted fans, I might have bought 9 more games (3 copies of all 3) and 2 gold memberships for my nephews that can't buy them (one with a new baby, looking for a house and one trying to pay off student loans).


I for once am not paying real money in MP. So that strategy won’t work on me. I’m content to acquire in game credits and buy the refill packages with them. I ain’t spending a cent in anything until the CE pack is out, and only if they correct the ending with it.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

As for the mass relays and whether or not they rupture, well I know one when I see one and the galaxy map scene that follows seems to indicate at least a very strong shockwave in each system. Everyone's free to their own interpretation, but the fact that there are such polarized views on what happened indicates a problem with the ending.

As far as the choices go again. I've now played the games through fully twice. All 3. On this last playthrough I went back and talked to everyone until they repeated themselves. I wanted to see what they all might have to say that would help form opinion in Shepard. I caught Garrus and Tali smooching. I had some heartfelt moments with Joker. But, man, EDI cuts right through things.

In London, when Shepard is saying final goodbyes, EDI is there and tells Shepard that Jeff may have unshackled her and she learned a lot of things from other sources, but only in that moment did she feel alive and that was because of Shepard. Thank you Bioware for making my only somewhat sensible choice be to kill the child of my better nature. I hate Control because it either makes Shepard into what TIM and Saren were, if only for a brief moment and then Shepard dies-it is godhood. I hate Synthesis because it is another form of Control and godhood and strips away what makes everyone an individual. Shepard tells EDI life isn't just about survival. Mordin abhors synthesis. The reapers are warped versions of it. But moreover it is a choice made by one person that changes trillions who have no say-they might prefer death. If the guts are taken out of what makes one alive (what EDI learned) then life becomes meaningless.

But that brings me back to Destroy. It isn't just genocide. Even for a Shepard that may take a gasp at the end, it is suicide. It's suicide of the soul, the heart. It's saying that this horrible choice that kills people that were just born, that I helped give birth to (depending on a Shepard type) kills Shepard's soul. Sure, Shepard allowed 300k Batarians and that was horrible. It was robbing Peter to pay Paul. And those lives weren't meaningless to Shepard. But, it's death of Shepard's soul by degree. Shepard had minutes to decide and tried to warn the Batarians-futile, but still a protest of what was to come.

In killing EDI and the Geth, Shepard who had just heard from and tried to talk to Hackett, doesn't even try to talk to anyone. "Hey EDI I have this choice to make. What should I do?"

I will say that the only choice I've made is Destroy, but that's because like an idiot I couldn't live with anything that ultimately didn't allow me to think that Shepard lived. So, in spite of my forceful complaint that Shepard wouldn't or shouldn't make a choice (kid could be lying, all choices are no win), I did make a choice. I've seen where others say they have just waited until they got the mission failure screen.

It comes back to it almost seems like those university experiments where they try to see if people will hurt others with an electric shock-the shock isn't real. In the experiments the shock gets worse to where the shockee starts to scream in pain and says s/he has heart trouble. Most people try to stop and do protest, but then go on to shock the other person anyway. That is what I felt like in choosing Destroy.


I'm to the point where I don't even want to discuss the ending that we were not intended to have.

Modifié par Voodoo-j, 25 mai 2012 - 04:05 .


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I think my EMS before the mp boost was 5275, not an issue if you play mostly Paragon.


I did play Paragon and I've looked all over to see what the top EMS without anything extra (no MP and no promoted classes) and couldn't find higher that 4000.

I actually earned extra war assets when compared to my other playthrough on the PS3, because I had an imported ME1 game that did contain some other assets, dialogue, and story lines.

I missed a few minor points and have consulted asset guides to see what I might have missed.  Still my EMS with MP factored in (100%) is about 7800.  I'm not sure what more I could have gotten.  I scanned all the systems at least twice. To get to 5000 EMS without MP you need 10,000 in war assets.  I am very far from that mark.

It's not that I don't believe you-I do, but I've searched for info as to how to get a 5000 EMS without MP and have yet to find any.  I guess I need to look again. 

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 25 mai 2012 - 04:11 .


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Benchpress610 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

Here it is... Ha, I spoke to soon.. they are really trying to suck up.. another free pack.

http://www.trueachie...-on-its-way.htm


To think I would have at least purchased one of them.


They will keep releasing free things that are meant as portals to get you to buy refill packs.   Their next thing is that SWTOR is going to be free to play.  They have to recoup their money somehow so will likely have you pay for things within that, too.  Again, if you look at the Infiltrator app, they use microtransactions within it-you have to pay for good bullets.

I have no problem with that, per se, but I do have a problem that MP is being used to prop up the SP game.  And the fact that they lied about it makes me pretty mad and that never affected me.  I'm mad for other people that have xboxes and maybe can't afford gold memberships or internet and found out the highest EMS they could get was somewhere around 4000, a bit less than.

I've said that even so, had the ending been super great as the game was and had they not truly lied to, misspoke, and then insulted fans, I might have bought 9 more games (3 copies of all 3) and 2 gold memberships for my nephews that can't buy them (one with a new baby, looking for a house and one trying to pay off student loans).


I for once am not paying real money in MP. So that strategy won’t work on me. I’m content to acquire in game credits and buy the refill packages with them. I ain’t spending a cent in anything until the CE pack is out, and only if they correct the ending with it.


I did blow a few hundred microsoft points on it just to get something I could work with. 
(it was also before I seen the ending)
Once you play enough it's easy enough just to earn the points to buy the packs as needed.

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LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

He didnt lie. Seeing as the whole game was a ending he gave us more then he said.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

I think my EMS before the mp boost was 5275, not an issue if you play mostly Paragon.


I did play Paragon and I've looked all over to see what the top EMS without anything extra (no MP and no promoted classes) and couldn't find higher that 4000.

I actually earned extra war assets when compared to my other playthrough on the PS3, because I had an imported ME1 game that did contain some other assets, dialogue, and story lines.

I missed a few minor points and have consulted asset guides to see what I might have missed.  Still my EMS with MP factored in (100%) is about 7800.  I'm not sure what more I could have gotten.  I scanned all the systems at least twice.

It's not that I don't believe you-I do, but I've searched for info as to how to get a 5000 EMS without MP and have yet to find any.  I guess I need to look again.


I'll double check it later today, but I remember 5k being a magic number and worrying about how much mp I needed to play, and thinking, I didn't even need to hit the mp.    I also remember reading somewhere there was an ending you needed 7500 for and I had surpassed that with the mp before it was 100%

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Voodoo-j wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink


Your giving him too much credit, he doesn't deserve to be compared to a horse.
Although .. in the retuarant he was eating fried roaches!

class act there....Shouldn't you be riding the shortbus back to school?

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we got the abc ending that wasn't suppose to be in the game we didn't get 16 different unique endings where our choices mattered we got the same 3 color explosions which screw over our very forces and none of the endings were that different then different colored explosions they lied and didn't follow through with what they said but you'll be kissing up to false pr for as long as you can it seems

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You want to know what noble sacrifice is I'll show you





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A01XGczHIk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyK5r41t1CI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq-0SaMxqk


This is what noble sacrifice really is giving your entire being to save the people you love and care about or giving them hope so that they can carry on and have future to change or protect what has came before and to craft a brighter future[/quote]


Ultimately heroes should go out like heroes a sacrfice should save the the person or people that your sacrificng your life for and with all the cliff hanger our forces trapt in sol will they be able to make the relays in time we just don't know without assumptions will the reapers if they live eventually turn on us again and commit mass genocide on us all over again most likely can't see really why they wouldn't go back to their old ways but yes cliff hanger all forces trapt around sol system all relays blown up nobody is going home no indictation of anything showing otherwise right now in all endings it feels like the enemy forces shepard to die which ultimately doesn't save us but saves the reapers I can't be ok with this the 90% of fans who disliked the reasons for exactly this reason
or the lies or the plotholes they find thousand or millions of fans wouldn't be upset without valid decent reasons nor would they make giant organizations and give 70 thousand dollars to charity either if they weren't decent people

And I'm passionate fan who has loved this series for a long time so of course people like me and 3dand, voodo and daveyiesly will keep coming back because were passionate about the series and just can't see how it is ok for stuff to go this way[/quote]


Simply thanatos I quote my on posts so that I don't have to keep saying the same things to you or repeat my self a thousand different times to newcomers who may come to this thread[/quote]

I guess I must admire some of you who hold on to the illusion of that we won or that our forces will be ok submitting to the enemy creator letting the reapers live so they may in the future kill advanced organics again and for all the relays to be destroyed or disabled with all our forces stranded

Again The flotilla does not have that much resources that is why they send new quarians on pilgrimages to try to find valuable things for the flotilla they barely have enough resources to keep them going since the loss of rannoch let alone trying to share it with a completely other race in the end it would only end up hurting them both then particulary saving one side or another


Thanatos will always support false pr and what wasn't upheld probably till the end of time while the rest of us just scratch and tinker with our minds with the sheer question of how can a person be like that?

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I did blow a few hundred microsoft points on it just to get something I could work with. 
(it was also before I seen the ending)
Once you play enough it's easy enough just to earn the points to buy the packs as needed.

It is far better to wait and get the credits for the packs.  I definitely agree.

You can earn the credits for the packs, but they've worked it out so that they can get a lot of people to get impatient and pay for the packs.

You have to ask why they made MP more of a necessity for SP.

I know that for bronze level games, you get somewhere around 15,000 credits for a successful mission-around 7,000 or less for one that isn't.  Consider that I am not the best player and my last 5 games, I've been the top player with 5 times the score of the second place person.  I repeatedly healed everyone, was the last person standing many time, and sometimes the only person at the extraction point.  So, getting a successful mission is getting pretty difficult.  I've also had the game dump all other players in the mission multiple times so I was playing alone.  I'd get through a couple waves, but...

Anyway, each game takes 20 minutes.  To get the best pack it takes about 2 hours of solid, successful play time.  It's doable, and I admit can be fun, but they are counting on people to be impatient.  By that time a person no longer has any medigel, rail amps, mods, special ammo packs so they might use the credits for the lesser packs.

I've managed to complete a lot of successful silver missions and some gold ones and you really need the better packs for them.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink


Your giving him too much credit, he doesn't deserve to be compared to a horse.
Although .. in the retuarant he was eating fried roaches!

class act there....Shouldn't you be riding the shortbus back to school?


I believe in return to sender - therefore I have returned to you what you have sent to me.
(and yes I'm reactive not proactive when it comes to how I treat people)

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LiarasShield wrote...

we got the abc ending that wasn't suppose to be in the game we didn't get 16 different unique endings where our choices mattered we got the same 3 color explosions which screw over our very forces and none of the endings were that different then different colored explosions they lied and didn't follow through with what they said but you'll be kissing up to false pr for as long as you can it seems

LOL We end every story arc in the series in one game so don't tell me you only got the ABC ending cause that would be wrong.

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Voodoo-j wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink


Your giving him too much credit, he doesn't deserve to be compared to a horse.
Although .. in the retuarant he was eating fried roaches!

class act there....Shouldn't you be riding the shortbus back to school?


I believe in return to sender - therefore I have returned to you what you have sent to me.
(and yes I'm reactive not proactive when it comes to how I treat people)


Would be fine if I was the first to insult you. Did I hurt your feeling telling you the truth????????? Did you run out of your mommas basement and tell on me?

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you keep kissing up to false pr and they didn't give everything that they said they would yet you keep riding the pr bandwagon and even in the interviews it was ment to be a conclusion to the story so the different choices and the 16 unique different endings where our choices should've been taken into account should've happened

Like I've mentioned to you before a million times I'm sorry that you like paying for a product that doesn't do everything it says it does for me I don't find it very acceptable

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It only technically sold well because of the number of preorders and I was among them. Once word got out about the abysmal ending sales dropped like a rock. As it stands, in terms of game sales and how it's currently being sold, it did not do well.  I was in Gamestop yesterday and it was selling for $27.99 and is only 2 months old.


It's still a commercial success : http://www.vgchartz....ame=mass effect
(vgchartz only count Hard Copies didn't they?)

Compare ME3 with ME2. (over two Years old.) Plus it will have a few additional sales when the DLC is released. 

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and alot of others don't either

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Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Be aware though evilamor they're making the same false promises that were not kept within this game

They didnt make false promises.....You just assumed things not in evidence.



interviews by the actual creators from the bioware teamn including casey hudson himself is more then enough evidence thanatos you just like to fight to fight we have proof we have even shown you evidence which you clearly spit on and ignore so yes

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink

He didnt lie. Seeing as the whole game was a ending he gave us more then he said.


To say that the whole of Mass Effect 3 was the ending that CH was referring too is a bit of an stretch. While ME3 is the end of the trilogy CH's comments did not specify that he was referring to the whole of ME3.

Every game produced by BW has always been treated in interviews as a stand alone product. Without CH specifically saying that the ending he referred to was the whole of ME3 it is fair to assume that he was talking about the end game of ME3.