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we all have freedom


Again, the hipocrisy, your on a roll!!!

You really do need to look up definitions of words.....

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does any one disagrre that bioware should be held accountable lagally for the blatant and constant lies about their product pre release? ive just never seen any thing like it, i mean,it cant be legal. the game is the exact opposite of everything they said it would be {or wouldnt be} false advertising??

They didnt promise you anything....They can not be held responsible that
you cant tell the difference between interviews and promises.

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Why am I not shocked you steal that from a liberal site?

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Good morning friends. I know this is off topic, but I have a question: I was looking at my registered game content and I noticed this item “Online Pass (N7 Collector’s Edition)” does this mean that whoever bought the standard edition had to buy the Online Pass separately? I wasn’t aware PC players needed an online pass.

All games came with the pass....Mine did and I didnt buy the collectors edition. They were out of them buy time I was able to get the funds up.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Bubbles =

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Why am I not shocked you steal that from a liberal site?



Because you're immature and can not accept facts or proven proof when it is shown to you you lose any crediability of being considered a decent person or a person with a valid arguement when others have given more then enough proof to you but you just go into denial mode with your fingers in your ears saying I'm not listening over and over again since no amount of proof by other fans could show you that you may be wrong or even indeed that you are

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[quote]LiarasShield wrote...







<_< again the catalyst isnt the good guy the enemy that has been destroying advanced organics for generations and then saying their going to save us from advanced synthetics but then use the geth to kill us or fight us with their reaper code after nearly destroying the galaxy and do this a thousand times over do you really think the reapers are just gonna sit down and drink milk and cookies with us I hardly doubt so

In A situation where the enemy that your fighting or brought all your forces to beat it makes no sense to automaticlly give into said enemy with circular logic that can be torn apart and then forced into 3 choices that either sound suicidal and ends up traping all your forces or commiting mass genocide to races like the geth and the quarians

Or turing everybody into half machines or half organic hybrids against their will destroying individuality evolution to affect real change to destroy the whole essence of bringing different people together to accomplish a goal

And No one has ever been able to control the reapers so it makes no sense why it would be able to work now when the illusive man and saren both failed to do so and how is shepard controlling the reapers if his or her body is destroyed how in hells name are the reapers being controlled and in any of the endings where the main villian lives what makes you think they won't try to harvest or commit mass genocide again it just


*Deep breath* dear god I just oooooih *Facepalms
Image IPB

Maybe from now on on every post I make I shall have this picture accompanie it

Thought this was kinda cool


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Yeah a sacrifical ending is fine if you end up saving the people you sacrifice for but giving into the enemy and then having the enemy pick what you should or force you into 3 terrible choices that personally as player and as shepard would probably never do I'm sorry

I'd rather fight the reapers to the end and depending on how high ems is how bad we lose or how good we win with keeping the relays intact so all the forces can go home and have loyal squad stay with us and the fleets

And why Can't mass effect 3 have a good ending or at least a victory ending mass effect 1 had one mass effect 2 had one 99% of mass effect 3 despite the noble and sad sacrifices had heroic and well done moments so why in the ending where everything is suppose to make sense where we are suppose to be reaching a decent conclusion does everything lose cohesion losing gallons of blood or not I wouldn't give in or accept the cataylst without questioning my own sanity because he created the reapers he is using the reapers to destroy organics for aeons on end and is still using the reapers to destroy my forces as we are having this very conversation with the catalyst


And ultimately why would I Trapt my own forces or let the enemy that has been destroying life for thousand of years or is destroying us during most of the final game why in hells name would I let them live so that they can potentially kill us all over again I just sweet christmas U_u

At the end of the day a defeat is a defeat I wish our choices would've mattered I wish we could've really beaten the reapers espically under our own steam and not their creators wishes

Yea thanatos loves playing games to lose I bet he plays call of duty all the time online so he can get his ass destroyed or so that no matter what he does he will always lose yup he loves it more then anything ^_^


The Funny thing is that the one calling everyone delusional is the one who is delusional oh how the irony is
[/quote] .As you keep telling us this opinion of yours....I really don't see anyone telling you you cant have this opinion just that you shouldn't try and
force it on everyone

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Well I bought me3 from ps store and I'm able to use the online without getting a pass so I don't know

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Well about 20 fans have already given enough proof to prove that your opinon is wrong thantos so I don't know *Shrugs*

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LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Bubbles =

%20http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/ferrous.jpg

Ferrous Cranus

Why am I not shocked you steal that from a liberal site?



Because you're immature and can not accept facts or proven proof when it is shown to you you lose any crediability of being considered a decent person or a person with a valid arguement when others have given more then enough proof to you but you just go into denial mode with your fingers in your ears saying I'm not listening over and over again since no amount of proof by other fans could show you that you may be wrong or even indeed that you are

Immature like you who throws a tantrum anytime someone puts forth a
opinion that doesn't match yours???? Perhaps it is not I who is immature .

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LiarasShield wrote...

Well about 20 fans have already given enough proof to prove that your opinon is wrong thantos so I don't know *Shrugs*

No they havent....

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

we all have freedom


Again, the hipocrisy, your on a roll!!!

You really do need to look up definitions of words.....



I've already provided the definition, I already knew what the word means, it appears you still lack the intellect.
(not that it was ever in question)

Modifié par Voodoo-j, 31 mai 2012 - 04:33 .


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Wait a second, the Better Business Bureau actually weighed in on all this? I hadn't heard! Wow. I do hope that from this point onward, companies take their products, and their CUSTOMERS, more seriously.

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Unless its Thanatos144, he's only to be taken as the bubbles in the air he represents.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Well about 20 fans have already given enough proof to prove that your opinon is wrong thantos so I don't know *Shrugs*

No they havent....



You keep proving it even nowin the denial mode like you will always keep doing again their has been enough proof through the last 10 or 20 pages ago so yes and


You have even proven that you support false advertizing and wrong saying in interviews by gaming companies

And you youself have lied a billion times over


Thanatos: hey guys you all keep argueing about the gamr and the ending but they I loved the ending and I've moved on to better things

Lie 1


And also

Thanatos:  Their is always the next game I'm playing alot of other great games right now so if you hate the ending get another game

Unfortunately for hardcore fans or people who have loved the series up till this point won't be able to ever agree with this train of thought and with this statement zillions of pages ago it already backs up that you're not a major fan and pretty much telling everybody to **** off because they don't like the ending and is expressing it here

And 2 Keep telling everybody to randomly buy new games because you don't have a loyalty set or a standard set nothing will ever improve if they have people like you who will either accept any faults that come or denie any wrong issues within the game

Not everyone just randomly buy games they buy some games because either A they love the series and  b to try out something that has been advertized to adress to someones taste or a fan base taste since that didn't happen in mass effect 3 of course alot of people are mad

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LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Well about 20 fans have already given enough proof to prove that your opinon is wrong thantos so I don't know *Shrugs*

No they havent....



You keep proving it even nowin the denial mode like you will always keep doing again their has been enough proof through the last 10 or 20 pages ago so yes and


You have even proven that you support false advertizing and wrong saying in interviews by gaming companies

And you youself have lied a billion times over


Thanatos: hey guys you all keep argueing about the gamr and the ending but they I loved the ending and I've moved on to better things

Lie 1


And also

Thanatos:  Their is always the next game I'm playing alot of other great games right now so if you hate the ending get another game

Unfortunately for hardcore fans or people who have loved the series up till this point won't be able to ever agree with this train of thought and with this statement zillions of pages ago it already backs up that you're not a major fan and pretty much telling everybody to **** off because they don't like the ending and is expressing it here

And 2 Keep telling everybody to randomly buy new games because you don't have a loyalty set or a standard set nothing will ever improve if they have people like you who will either accept any faults that come or denie any wrong issues within the game

Not everyone just randomly buy games they buy some games because either A they love the series and  b to try out something that has been advertized to adress to someones taste or a fan base taste since that didn't happen in mass effect 3 of course alot of people are mad

I love this....I have moved on to better things....Right now I am
waiting for servers on a game I have been playing to come up from maintenance...Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Well about 20 fans have already given enough proof to prove that your opinon is wrong thantos so I don't know *Shrugs*

No they havent....



You keep proving it even nowin the denial mode like you will always keep doing again their has been enough proof through the last 10 or 20 pages ago so yes and


You have even proven that you support false advertizing and wrong saying in interviews by gaming companies

And you youself have lied a billion times over


Thanatos: hey guys you all keep argueing about the gamr and the ending but they I loved the ending and I've moved on to better things

Lie 1


And also

Thanatos:  Their is always the next game I'm playing alot of other great games right now so if you hate the ending get another game

Unfortunately for hardcore fans or people who have loved the series up till this point won't be able to ever agree with this train of thought and with this statement zillions of pages ago it already backs up that you're not a major fan and pretty much telling everybody to **** off because they don't like the ending and is expressing it here

And 2 Keep telling everybody to randomly buy new games because you don't have a loyalty set or a standard set nothing will ever improve if they have people like you who will either accept any faults that come or denie any wrong issues within the game

Not everyone just randomly buy games they buy some games because either A they love the series and  b to try out something that has been advertized to adress to someones taste or a fan base taste since that didn't happen in mass effect 3 of course alot of people are mad

I love this....I have moved on to better things....Right now I am
waiting for servers on a game I have been playing to come up from maintenance...Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.



You have already proven that you're not a major fan and  lie like the creators during the the interviews no one can or will ever take you serious and any chance of honor you lost 100 hundred pages ago

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Landon7001 wrote...

does any one disagrre that bioware should be held accountable lagally for the blatant and constant lies about their product pre release? ive just never seen any thing like it, i mean,it cant be legal. the game is the exact opposite of everything they said it would be {or wouldnt be} false advertising??

They didnt promise you anything....They can not be held responsible that
you cant tell the difference between interviews and promises.


I think it's time to sit back and look at what we mean when we use the term promise in context of the interviews given by Bioware.....

This will raise a few eyebrows but I have to call it as I see it. Than is correct. Bioware did not promise us anything. I say this as looking through the available interview transcripts I have not come across a Bioware employee using the phrase "We promise..... (insert promise here).

However..........

Bioware did raise expectations and in several instances....... they directed those expectations in a particular direction. Lets take the ending and the A B and C reference Casey Hudson made as a case in point.

"This story arc is coming to an end with this game.
That means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we're
taking into account so many decisions that you've made as
a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It's not even in any way
like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings
there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C."

Ok, no sign of a promise so far, however he is clearly steering our expectations in a particular direction.

Technically CH is right in that instead of ending A, B and C, we got 16 different endings...... don't laugh..... there were 16........really. They just looked 95% the same-ish. The end choice and point where we as players lost all control of the game however was an A, B and C pick your ending moment and with so little variation in the 16 scenes that follow them it is understandable that alot of ppl feel that they got  A, B and C. Hopefully the EC DLC will rectify this glaring error in end game narrative.

So to close, the endings take very little of what the player did and achived, from the point of Red, Blue and Green make your choice time, into account. BW raised customer expectations in such a way that we the players were confident that this would not happen. Not a promise then.

But if someone I trusted told me to come to a party in fancy dress and, on arriving in a Super Mario Raccon costume discovered it was black tie, I'd be understandably miffed and forced to consider that possibility that I was setup to take a fall.

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LiarasShield wrote...




You have already proven that you're not a major fan and  lie like the creators during the the interviews no one can or will ever take you serious and any chance of honor you lost 100 hundred pages ago

Actually I am a fan....I truly enjoyed ME the diffrence is I can handle the truth of what I see and have the intelligence to understand the story being told.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Benchpress610 wrote...

Good morning friends. I know this is off topic, but I have a question: I was looking at my registered game content and I noticed this item “Online Pass (N7 Collector’s Edition)” does this mean that whoever bought the standard edition had to buy the Online Pass separately? I wasn’t aware PC players needed an online pass.

All games came with the pass....Mine did and I didnt buy the collectors edition. They were out of them buy time I was able to get the funds up.


I went standard and it had a pass. Passes have become a way of allowing DLC content to keep being bought after the game goes into it's second hand stage of life. Or something along those lines.

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Thanatos144 wrote...
.Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.



Hipocrisy on a whole new level


New word just for you!
Thanatisy - it's being a hipocrite while fantasizing you are not!

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Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Benchpress610 wrote...

Good morning friends. I know this is off topic, but I have a question: I was looking at my registered game content and I noticed this item “Online Pass (N7 Collector’s Edition)” does this mean that whoever bought the standard edition had to buy the Online Pass separately? I wasn’t aware PC players needed an online pass.

All games came with the pass....Mine did and I didnt buy the collectors edition. They were out of them buy time I was able to get the funds up.


I went standard and it had a pass. Passes have become a way of allowing DLC content to keep being bought after the game goes into it's second hand stage of life. Or something along those lines.

its their way tio make money even after Gamestop sells the used game. Pretty damn smart way to...

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Voodoo-j wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
.Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.



Hipocrisy on a whole new level


New word just for you!
Thanatisy - it's being a hipocrite while fantasizing you are not!

You really need to look up the definition of that word.....Unlike you I have been consistant.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
.Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.



Hipocrisy on a whole new level


New word just for you!
Thanatisy - it's being a hipocrite while fantasizing you are not!

You really need to look up the definition of that word.....Unlike you I have been consistant.



<_< again the catalyst isnt the good guy the enemy that has been destroying advanced organics for generations and then saying their going to save us from advanced synthetics but then use the geth to kill us or fight us with their reaper code after nearly destroying the galaxy and do this a thousand times over do you really think the reapers are just gonna sit down and drink milk and cookies with us I hardly doubt so

In A situation where the enemy that your fighting or brought all your forces to beat it makes no sense to automaticlly give into said enemy with circular logic that can be torn apart and then forced into 3 choices that either sound suicidal and ends up traping all your forces or commiting mass genocide to races like the geth and the quarians

Or turing everybody into half machines or half organic hybrids against their will destroying individuality evolution to affect real change to destroy the whole essence of bringing different people together to accomplish a goal

And No one has ever been able to control the reapers so it makes no sense why it would be able to work now when the illusive man and saren both failed to do so and how is shepard controlling the reapers if his or her body is destroyed how in hells name are the reapers being controlled and in any of the endings where the main villian lives what makes you think they won't try to harvest or commit mass genocide again it just


*Deep breath* dear god I just oooooih *Facepalms
Image IPB

Maybe from now on on every post I make I shall have this picture accompanie it

Thought this was kinda cool





Yeah a sacrifical ending is fine if you end up saving the people you sacrifice for but giving into the enemy and then having the enemy pick what you should or force you into 3 terrible choices that personally as player and as shepard would probably never do I'm sorry

I'd rather fight the reapers to the end and depending on how high ems is how bad we lose or how good we win with keeping the relays intact so all the forces can go home and have loyal squad stay with us and the fleets

And why Can't mass effect 3 have a good ending or at least a victory ending mass effect 1 had one mass effect 2 had one 99% of mass effect 3 despite the noble and sad sacrifices had heroic and well done moments so why in the ending where everything is suppose to make sense where we are suppose to be reaching a decent conclusion does everything lose cohesion losing gallons of blood or not I wouldn't give in or accept the cataylst without questioning my own sanity because he created the reapers he is using the reapers to destroy organics for aeons on end and is still using the reapers to destroy my forces as we are having this very conversation with the catalyst


And ultimately why would I Trapt my own forces or let the enemy that has been destroying life for thousand of years or is destroying us during most of the final game why in hells name would I let them live so that they can potentially kill us all over again I just sweet christmas U_u

At the end of the day a defeat is a defeat I wish our choices would've mattered I wish we could've really beaten the reapers espically under our own steam and not their creators wishes

Yea thanatos loves playing games to lose I bet he plays call of duty all the time online so he can get his ass destroyed or so that no matter what he does he will always lose yup he loves it more then anything ^_^


The False expectations and the lies that they said how things would occur was what was terribly wrong

Secondly you seem to love the thing about heroes giving into the enemies that they said they would destroy to save the galaxy but instead we get either reapers live with their creator telling us which way to die with either  the reapers living so they can commit genocide on us again or all our forces trapt in our damaged solar system

And Vigil from Ilos already said that the reapers turn off the relays to make it easyer to harvest organics so if the relays are destroyed it would make it that much easyer for the reapers to annhilate us

Giving into the enemy and having them force into the choices they believe and then ultimately not beating the enemy or not saving any of your forces from the sacrifice that you make ends up ultimatel a failure ending where you lose no matter what decisions and actions you did during all three games

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Voodoo-j wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...
.Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I
have honor.



Hipocrisy on a whole new level


New word just for you!
Thanatisy - it's being a hipocrite while fantasizing you are not!

You really need to look up the definition of that word.....Unlike you I have been consistant.


Hey over there in Thanatisy land... go back... a few pages.. you'll find the definition already there.
Oh but wait, that post shut you up too.. you probably don't want to revist it :/
But hey if you enjoy Thanatisy land, don't let me stop you, if that's what you need to do to stoke your ego and go on with life.

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again once again ultimate defeat no matter what is what thanatos is all about man if I ever do have children sure wouldn't let them be around you lol