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Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


There is already a lawsuit.  People can actually sue for almost anything.  For instance, you could be sued for harassment-whether the person suing you would win is another matter.  And a lawsuit is civil, not criminal-that would be the violation of a law.  A lawsuit is specifically for holding someone responsible punitively for damages based upon something they did or didn't do.  The police arrest someone if it's criminal-and that has a higher burden of proof as well.

No, your made up artifcial parallel universe ideas are not the reason that this issue is not worthy of lawsuits.  The problem is damages would be ultra hard to assess and would probably amount only to the price of the game, which doesn't approach the intangible damage the ending did.

Keep using the idea you read elsewhere that says all of ME3 was an ending, when it wasn't.  This was something you hit upon recently so now you think it sounds cool to say it.  Well, a piece of driftwood is still a piece of driftwood and the ending of any game is at the end.  Someone decided that since the endings were an issue for people and were not what was promised, that it worked better to change the idea of what an ending is. 

6-The actual number of endings if one gets picky and includes the total devastation endings and Shepard gasps ending that really have very little different about them from any of the other endings.
3-the exact number of ABC endings Shepard may choose from at what is known as the end of the game.  These are the non-ABC endings promised that technically aren't ABC endings because someone more skillfully assigned them colors instead of letters.
1-the exact number of cutscenes created for the ending with very minor alteration, most noticeably (unless you are color blind) color changes.

All endings have some variations as to who gets off the ship with Joker, so this must be what was meant when they promised the endings would be vastly different, so it was like no two people got the same ending.

But, bubbles apparently you believe curing or not curing the genophage was part of the ending, when really Shepard was still beginning to gather people for the final (closely related to ending) battle.

Ending-the end of something, normally not found at the beginning or in the middle of something.
Promise-stating you will or will not do something.  The words, "I promise" need not be spoken first or at all within the statement and the statement can be given over the phone, on a yacht, in a bathtub or in an advertisement (also known as an ad), in an interview, on Twitter, Facebook, by tin can, or while talking to a group of fans over tea.  No formal "I promise" conference must be called ahead of time.

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There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

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Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.

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There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

Yes I know you have to believe that cause to believe the truth would mean your wrong.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

Yes I know you have to believe that cause to believe the truth would mean your wrong.


He read that somewhere and because he was continually proven wrong about everything, after about 750 pages, he started saying the whole thing was the ending.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Can I just clarify? When I say the ending I'm referring to the point past when Shepard makes the RGB decision and gameplay ends to begins the cutscene. Are you referring to the ending from the same point as I am?

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Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Called for overuse of question marks.  Please refrain from doing so, as one is sufficient for us to recognize a question even ones as silly and self-serving as these.

Ending-the end of something.

Beginning-the part where something begins or starts.  By your logic all of those things you mentioned are really the beginning of the game, so the whole game is the freaking beginning.  I got what, over 20 beginnings??????????????  I think I owe Bioware money now, because they never promised 20 beginnings.

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Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Can I just clarify? When I say the ending I'm referring to the point past when Shepard makes the RGB decision and gameplay ends to begins the cutscene. Are you referring to the ending from the same point as I am?


Somewhere about 2 weeks ago someone started saying the whole game is the ending and Thanatos read it and about 750 pages back started saying this.  He thinks the cure the genophage/tuchanka mission is a bunch of endings.  And that resolving the geth/quarian issue is a bunch more endings.  Even saying it makes no sense.

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I have an idea for an ending. 

Keep the endings but provide closure but it would be ****ing awesome if you make an ending where the Crucible isn't needed despite what Hackett said before.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Called for overuse of question marks.  Please refrain from doing so, as one is sufficient for us to recognize a question even ones as silly and self-serving as these.

Ending-the end of something.

Beginning-the part where something begins or starts.  By your logic all of those things you mentioned are really the beginning of the game, so the whole game is the freaking beginning.  I got what, over 20 beginnings??????????????  I think I owe Bioware money now, because they never promised 20 beginnings.

Grow up.

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I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Called for overuse of question marks.  Please refrain from doing so, as one is sufficient for us to recognize a question even ones as silly and self-serving as these.

Ending-the end of something.

Beginning-the part where something begins or starts.  By your logic all of those things you mentioned are really the beginning of the game, so the whole game is the freaking beginning.  I got what, over 20 beginnings??????????????  I think I owe Bioware money now, because they never promised 20 beginnings.

Grow up.


Please take your own advice-you dispense enough of it here.  You know, I've seen people here called a lot of things by you, but every single one of those things applies more appropriately to you.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

Seeing as you can fail making it to earth I wouls say they didnt lie.....But dont let the truth cloud you rant.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

Yes I know you have to believe that cause to believe the truth would mean your wrong.


The truth makes myself and many others right bubbles. But, I guess in Thanatisy land up is down, peanuts are numbers, fish perform interdimentional travel on a daily basis, and an ending is the middle. See I call that multi colored cinemtic the "ending" because its AT THE END of the story. It is the closing moments of the entire series that's what makes it the END. So what half thought word would you use?
Because here's the truth according to the dictionary

v. end·ed, end·ing, ends
v.tr.
1. To bring to a conclusion.
2. To form the last or concluding part of:

Your argument fails to fall in line with reason bubbles. Your mistaking the conclusion of a plot line within the story with the conclusion the entire story.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Called for overuse of question marks.  Please refrain from doing so, as one is sufficient for us to recognize a question even ones as silly and self-serving as these.

Ending-the end of something.

Beginning-the part where something begins or starts.  By your logic all of those things you mentioned are really the beginning of the game, so the whole game is the freaking beginning.  I got what, over 20 beginnings??????????????  I think I owe Bioware money now, because they never promised 20 beginnings.

Grow up.


Please take your own advice-you dispense enough of it here.  You know, I've seen people here called a lot of things by you, but every single one of those things applies more appropriately to you.

Actually I haven't and would take kindly to you not lying about me. I
have maybe called people three or four things...Rage trolls.....I inferred many of you were ignorant...Childish tantrum throwers and entitled brats. While I have not been the most nice of people I am not
the raving lunatic you wish to paint me as.

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sdinc009 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

Yes I know you have to believe that cause to believe the truth would mean your wrong.


The truth makes myself and many others right bubbles. But, I guess in Thanatisy land up is down, peanuts are numbers, fish perform interdimentional travel on a daily basis, and an ending is the middle. See I call that multi colored cinemtic the "ending" because its AT THE END of the story. It is the closing moments of the entire series that's what makes it the END. So what half thought word would you use?
Because here's the truth according to the dictionary

v. end·ed, end·ing, ends
v.tr.
1. To bring to a conclusion.
2. To form the last or concluding part of:

Your argument fails to fall in line with reason bubbles. Your mistaking the conclusion of a plot line within the story with the conclusion the entire story.

LOL Does that definition tell you how long that ending has to be?

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Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

Seeing as you can fail making it to earth I wouls say they didnt lie.....But dont let the truth cloud you rant.


Apparently you missed the part where it says the reapers win the battle.  If you don't get to Earth the game ends-critical mission failure and the game is over.  I didn't rant - you need a dictionary.

You will do or say anything and make up any reason so you don't ever have to say you are wrong.  You make a statement, we prove you wrong, you moronify it to fit your own needs so you don't have to admit you are wrong.  Glad you are happily playing other games.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

Seeing as you can fail making it to earth I wouls say they didnt lie.....But dont let the truth cloud you rant.


Apparently you missed the part where it says the reapers win the battle.  If you don't get to Earth the game ends-critical mission failure and the game is over.  I didn't rant - you need a dictionary.

You will do or say anything and make up any reason so you don't ever have to say you are wrong.  You make a statement, we prove you wrong, you moronify it to fit your own needs so you don't have to admit you are wrong.  Glad you are happily playing other games.

Sorry if I dont allow you to try and change the truth to fit your agenda.

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Thanatos144 wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

There are 6 endings that are really just 1 ending, here you go for all to see, start counting



And don't even try to claim that the whole game was the ending, that's BS. It's the ending to the trilogy, but it still has to obey story structure (beginning, middle, end). The whole game is not the ending to the whole game that's retarded.

Yes I know you have to believe that cause to believe the truth would mean your wrong.


The truth makes myself and many others right bubbles. But, I guess in Thanatisy land up is down, peanuts are numbers, fish perform interdimentional travel on a daily basis, and an ending is the middle. See I call that multi colored cinemtic the "ending" because its AT THE END of the story. It is the closing moments of the entire series that's what makes it the END. So what half thought word would you use?
Because here's the truth according to the dictionary

v. end·ed, end·ing, ends
v.tr.
1. To bring to a conclusion.
2. To form the last or concluding part of:

Your argument fails to fall in line with reason bubbles. Your mistaking the conclusion of a plot line within the story with the conclusion the entire story.

LOL Does that definition tell you how long that ending has to be?


Did the original question specify the length of the ending was a requirement of the response, cause I'm completely lost as to where ppl are taking the ending of the game to be. It sounds like 2 different frames of reference are at work here.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Can I just clarify? When I say the ending I'm referring to the point past when Shepard makes the RGB decision and gameplay ends to begins the cutscene. Are you referring to the ending from the same point as I am?


Somewhere about 2 weeks ago someone started saying the whole game is the ending and Thanatos read it and about 750 pages back started saying this.  He thinks the cure the genophage/tuchanka mission is a bunch of endings.  And that resolving the geth/quarian issue is a bunch more endings.  Even saying it makes no sense.


Hmmm, well, from a narrative standpoint the plots's of Tchunka and Rannoch,
etc, etc are resolved and resolution is a form of ending. I'm not sure
how resolving those plot strands can be seen as a bunch or multiple
endings however unless you start dissecting the story to find the plots
within the plot. No offense but once the Rannoch story is resolved I don't
need to know what Admiral Xen get's up too. She's either dead, alive
and on Rannoch or alive and on her ship at the end........... Knowing is
unnessary as her function as a character is to advocate that Geth are
toy's to so with as she see's fit. Anything beyond that would take
character development and there are much more important things to
getting on with storywise.

I think when talking about endings the readers need context. There is trilogy where ME3 represents the end. There is the character based story, i.e. Rannoch, where the Geth/Quarian problem is resolved and thus ended, there is ME3 as a whole where the end is the RGB choice. If we start picking area's of the game or games and referring to them as the true ending we all lose our frame of reference.......

I think for the sake of argument we should assume that we are talking about ME3 as a whole where the beginning is Shep's run from Earth. The ending is Shep's encounter with the SC, and the middle is everything inbetween.

If special reference to parts of the game are required then they need to be mentioned in context to the beginning, middle and end.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

Seeing as you can fail making it to earth I wouls say they didnt lie.....But dont let the truth cloud you rant.


Apparently you missed the part where it says the reapers win the battle.  If you don't get to Earth the game ends-critical mission failure and the game is over.  I didn't rant - you need a dictionary.

You will do or say anything and make up any reason so you don't ever have to say you are wrong.  You make a statement, we prove you wrong, you moronify it to fit your own needs so you don't have to admit you are wrong.  Glad you are happily playing other games.


Already tried to give bubbles the dictionary definition of "ending". Apparently, he's right and the dictionary is wrong.

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Actually I haven't and would take kindly to you not lying about me. I
have maybe called people three or four things...Rage trolls.....I inferred many of you were ignorant...Childish tantrum throwers and entitled brats. While I have not been the most nice of people I am not
the raving lunatic you wish to paint me as.


Perhaps now I should cry and be like you and say WAAAAAH, you just called me a liar.  You have continually insulted people.  Apparently, you think it's ok if you call someone a troll, but then you've cried when someone calls you that.  You insult people's intelligence, their education (though you appear to have none yourself).  You repeatedly come back here merely to insult and to enflame and were you on any of the other forums I've moderated, you would be banned.  And not because I dislike your opinions-you have a right to those.  What you don't have a right to do is exactly what you have done and how you have been doing it. 

Truth is, your comments, all of them are so far from the truth all you are is laughable.

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Already tried to give bubbles the dictionary definition of "ending". Apparently, he's right and the dictionary is wrong.


Well, you can't argue with that.  I mean when have dictionaries ever been right.  Darn books full of meaningless words.

No wonder the actual end of the game makes sense to him (not the twenty five and a half other endings that don't actually end the game).

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Redbelle wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its amazing....The reason there wont be a law suit is because Bioware did nothing criminal or that deserves to be sued for. Hey LiarasShield you got more than 16 endings in the game you just refuse to see them because of the last 3.


Can you state how many endings there are if not 16?

Depends on how you play thre game doesnt it????Count them up...How many for the geth ending????4????More depending on who is alive....The genopage????5 ..More again is you take into account whop lives....Then there are the several smaller story arks that ended...I am betting around 20 endings at least.


Can I just clarify? When I say the ending I'm referring to the point past when Shepard makes the RGB decision and gameplay ends to begins the cutscene. Are you referring to the ending from the same point as I am?


Somewhere about 2 weeks ago someone started saying the whole game is the ending and Thanatos read it and about 750 pages back started saying this.  He thinks the cure the genophage/tuchanka mission is a bunch of endings.  And that resolving the geth/quarian issue is a bunch more endings.  Even saying it makes no sense.


Hmmm, well, from a narrative standpoint the plots's of Tchunka and Rannoch,
etc, etc are resolved and resolution is a form of ending. I'm not sure
how resolving those plot strands can be seen as a bunch or multiple
endings however unless you start dissecting the story to find the plots
within the plot. No offense but once the Rannoch story is resolved I don't
need to know what Admiral Xen get's up too. She's either dead, alive
and on Rannoch or alive and on her ship at the end........... Knowing is
unnessary as her function as a character is to advocate that Geth are
toy's to so with as she see's fit. Anything beyond that would take
character development and there are much more important things to
getting on with storywise.

I think when talking about endings the readers need context. There is trilogy where ME3 represents the end. There is the character based story, i.e. Rannoch, where the Geth/Quarian problem is resolved and thus ended, there is ME3 as a whole where the end is the RGB choice. If we start picking area's of the game or games and referring to them as the true ending we all lose our frame of reference.......

I think for the sake of argument we should assume that we are talking about ME3 as a whole where the beginning is Shep's run from Earth. The ending is Shep's encounter with the SC, and the middle is everything inbetween.

If special reference to parts of the game are required then they need to be mentioned in context to the beginning, middle and end.

Yes, I believe everyone but 1 can agree that what we're refering to as the ending is the final part of the ME 3 story and not the resolution of the internal plot lines within that story.

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sdinc009 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

I want to know where this ending is, if it's in the beginning, the middle, or near the conclusion of the game:


Mike Gamble (Associate Producer)
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html

Mass Effect 3 will shake up the player's moral choices more than ever
before, even going so far as allowing the Reapers to win the battle
for Earth, according to BioWare's community representative Mike
Gamble.

Seeing as you can fail making it to earth I wouls say they didnt lie.....But dont let the truth cloud you rant.


Apparently you missed the part where it says the reapers win the battle.  If you don't get to Earth the game ends-critical mission failure and the game is over.  I didn't rant - you need a dictionary.

You will do or say anything and make up any reason so you don't ever have to say you are wrong.  You make a statement, we prove you wrong, you moronify it to fit your own needs so you don't have to admit you are wrong.  Glad you are happily playing other games.


Already tried to give bubbles the dictionary definition of "ending". Apparently, he's right and the dictionary is wrong.


I've been looking for a youtube vid that shows if you wait to long at the catalyst RGB choice you get the critical mission failure ending.... no luck yet. I thought youtube had everything