Oh yes of course you are right BP, but still and all all that bubbles achieves is the lengthening of a thread he dislikes. He's convinced himself he's having fun in making fun of us, but he's kind of like a freak show.
Yeah…some times when I see the thread shoot two or three pages in less than ten minutes, you can bet 1000 to 1 that he is involved…I used to get frustrated with people trying to reason with him, but now I just seat back and enjoy the show…
Please feel free to cite the Deus Ex Machina in LOTR and Dune. And, yeah, it does mean I'm right because unlike you I don't base my posts on conjecture or personal opinion, but ground it in fact. That post is not my opinion but a literary defintion just like my previous one defining the dictionary defintion of "end" which you decided to disregard. So you appartently know better than the dictionary and the literary community as well. If you want to make an argument it needs to be made with substance and not simply hot air. I've provided facts, reason, and logic backed up with evidence cited from knowledgable sources. You vomit non-sense from your face hole and then put your fingers in your ears and shout "La La La, I can't hear you!" Now, you're going to say I'm wrong, right? Well, go ahead and PROVE IT![/quote] In Dune it is his inner memories that they use to explain things.....Int lord of the rings it is a dead Gandolf.
[quote]Thanatos144 wrote... .Now I do like to post the truth but I guess to you having moved on means I should just allow lies to constantly be spread...Sorry I have honor. [/quote]
Hipocrisy on a whole new level
New word just for you! Thanatisy - it's being a hipocrite while fantasizing you are not!
[/quote] You really need to look up the definition of that word.....Unlike you I have been consistant. [/quote]
again the catalyst isnt the good guy the enemy that has been destroying advanced organics for generations and then saying their going to save us from advanced synthetics but then use the geth to kill us or fight us with their reaper code after nearly destroying the galaxy and do this a thousand times over do you really think the reapers are just gonna sit down and drink milk and cookies with us I hardly doubt so
In A situation where the enemy that your fighting or brought all your forces to beat it makes no sense to automaticlly give into said enemy with circular logic that can be torn apart and then forced into 3 choices that either sound suicidal and ends up traping all your forces or commiting mass genocide to races like the geth and the quarians
Or turing everybody into half machines or half organic hybrids against their will destroying individuality evolution to affect real change to destroy the whole essence of bringing different people together to accomplish a goal
And No one has ever been able to control the reapers so it makes no sense why it would be able to work now when the illusive man and saren both failed to do so and how is shepard controlling the reapers if his or her body is destroyed how in hells name are the reapers being controlled and in any of the endings where the main villian lives what makes you think they won't try to harvest or commit mass genocide again it just
*Deep breath* dear god I just oooooih *Facepalms
Maybe from now on on every post I make I shall have this picture accompanie it
Thought this was kinda cool
Yeah a sacrifical ending is fine if you end up saving the people you sacrifice for but giving into the enemy and then having the enemy pick what you should or force you into 3 terrible choices that personally as player and as shepard would probably never do I'm sorry
I'd rather fight the reapers to the end and depending on how high ems is how bad we lose or how good we win with keeping the relays intact so all the forces can go home and have loyal squad stay with us and the fleets
And why Can't mass effect 3 have a good ending or at least a victory ending mass effect 1 had one mass effect 2 had one 99% of mass effect 3 despite the noble and sad sacrifices had heroic and well done moments so why in the ending where everything is suppose to make sense where we are suppose to be reaching a decent conclusion does everything lose cohesion losing gallons of blood or not I wouldn't give in or accept the cataylst without questioning my own sanity because he created the reapers he is using the reapers to destroy organics for aeons on end and is still using the reapers to destroy my forces as we are having this very conversation with the catalyst
And ultimately why would I Trapt my own forces or let the enemy that has been destroying life for thousand of years or is destroying us during most of the final game why in hells name would I let them live so that they can potentially kill us all over again I just sweet christmas U_u
At the end of the day a defeat is a defeat I wish our choices would've mattered I wish we could've really beaten the reapers espically under our own steam and not their creators wishes
Yea thanatos loves playing games to lose I bet he plays call of duty all the time online so he can get his ass destroyed or so that no matter what he does he will always lose yup he loves it more then anything
The False expectations and the lies that they said how things would occur was what was terribly wrong
Secondly you seem to love the thing about heroes giving into the enemies that they said they would destroy to save the galaxy but instead we get either reapers live with their creator telling us which way to die with either the reapers living so they can commit genocide on us again or all our forces trapt in our damaged solar system
And Vigil from Ilos already said that the reapers turn off the relays to make it easyer to harvest organics so if the relays are destroyed it would make it that much easyer for the reapers to annhilate us
Giving into the enemy and having them force into the choices they believe and then ultimately not beating the enemy or not saving any of your forces from the sacrifice that you make ends up ultimatel a failure ending where you lose no matter what decisions and actions you did during all three games[/quote]
Anybody get the new vorcha character
Cool voodo I just got the male quarian gonna test him out soon
Hmm, this has already been addressed by me and others here. I've said why I don't think that's appropriate, but apparently you seem to think that unless a debate or dispute commences in a court of law, it has no validity. Strange, when this seems very anti-Bioware for someone who claims to have Bioware's back.
No one here want to sue Bioware. In fact, we've also spoken of the great like or even love we have for them and what they've achieved. Taking them to court is counter-productive to what we'd like to see happen. We've always stated we prefer an open, honest dialog with them. I as an individual that belongs to no organization but am merely one in a huge group of Bioware fans, merely want them to return the game ending to the same awesome level as the rest of the games.
I have no wish to become their adversary. I have been their customer, a fan of their games. I merely want to retain those titles and I am trying to give them the chance to keep getting my money.
You consistently assume the worst in what people are saying. Sad little man.
I did play the other night, while I didn't have it, those that did made for interesting conversation. They did a really good job with it, those I was grouped with all had fun commenting on the the vorcha dialouge.
LOL...I found myself shooting at them a couple of times..they do look a lot like Marauders...
YES!! especially when you have the Geth hunter mode active, the Vorcha have something that makes them glow red.
3DandBeyond wrote... Hmm, this has already been addressed by me and others here. I've said why I don't think that's appropriate, but apparently you seem to think that unless a debate or dispute commences in a court of law, it has no validity. Strange, when this seems very anti-Bioware for someone who claims to have Bioware's back.
No one here want to sue Bioware. In fact, we've also spoken of the great like or even love we have for them and what they've achieved. Taking them to court is counter-productive to what we'd like to see happen. We've always stated we prefer an open, honest dialog with them. I as an individual that belongs to no organization but am merely one in a huge group of Bioware fans, merely want them to return the game ending to the same awesome level as the rest of the games.
I have no wish to become their adversary. I have been their customer, a fan of their games. I merely want to retain those titles and I am trying to give them the chance to keep getting my money.
You consistently assume the worst in what people are saying. Sad little man.
Exactly, many pro-enders forget or dismiss the fact that, for the most part, we have been BioWare’s most ardent fans for many years. Heck we are using their own servers in this forum. We want BioWare to succeed so they can keep giving us the quality products they have for years.
The thing is, by the hack job they did with the ME3 endings, and other indications, we are starting to perceive the BioWare we love is gone and we want it back…that’s all.
Please feel free to cite the Deus Ex Machina in LOTR and Dune. And, yeah, it does mean I'm right because unlike you I don't base my posts on conjecture or personal opinion, but ground it in fact. That post is not my opinion but a literary defintion just like my previous one defining the dictionary defintion of "end" which you decided to disregard. So you appartently know better than the dictionary and the literary community as well. If you want to make an argument it needs to be made with substance and not simply hot air. I've provided facts, reason, and logic backed up with evidence cited from knowledgable sources. You vomit non-sense from your face hole and then put your fingers in your ears and shout "La La La, I can't hear you!" Now, you're going to say I'm wrong, right? Well, go ahead and PROVE IT![/quote] In Dune it is his inner memories that they use to explain things.....Int lord of the rings it is a dead Gandolf. [/quote] Wrong and wrong, did you not read the definition of Deus Ex MAchina. The Inner memory concept is well established throughout the entire story and series. It is not randomly and unexplainably dropped in at the very end. Neither is Gandalfs return since he reappears in the middle of the Two Towers not the very end and when he's introduced he not some fix all for the story. All of the characters still have to go through their dramatic struggles of which Gandalf has limited interaction. But thank you for proveing me right with your 1 sentence flimsy, and poorly thought out response. Keep trying Bubble.
I did play the other night, while I didn't have it, those that did made for interesting conversation. They did a really good job with it, those I was grouped with all had fun commenting on the the vorcha dialouge.
LOL...I found myself shooting at them a couple of times..they do look a lot like Marauders...
YES!! especially when you have the Geth hunter mode active, the Vorcha have something that makes them glow red.
Lately I've noticed my Quarian Infiltrator gets the same hunter mode as the Geth. Usually when I'm stealthed.
Another failed attempt. Sdinc I think the quote in your last response has a wrong tag somewhere. The response is swapping your name for Than's and vice versa when I try to respond.
*edit* going back I see this error extends onto Than's repsonse as well. going back I think Than snipped part part of a previous response out to shorten the length of the post and it's had the effect of swapping your names around. Thought I'd mention it in case ppl get confused.
@liarasshield Please don't take this the wrong way but if you don't mind, could you not keep reposting that big ass quote with the doubke face palm? I know everytime bubbles post something it seems appropriate but it kinda looses its effect if we see that on every page or so. ;-)
As for the MP DLC, about 2.5 mil credits later My MP Stats Page Krysae and Reegar Xes
The Vorcha classes are crazy good. Especially since you can shoot and scoot. Heal up / regenerate to full then go back in again. The flamer ability is CRAZY Over Powered in Bronze challanges. I just stood my ground and before an coming brute / banshee can reach you, its dead. ;-)
Kinda disappointed with the Krysae though. The Reegar carbine though is fast becoming my favorite close-in weapon of choice. Basically an Arc "flame thrower"... What's not to like?
Wonder if they will release one more MP DLC before or in conjunction with the EC DLC? Hmnnns, methinks they will, to keep the game alive perhaps.
@liarasshield Please don't take this the wrong way but if you don't mind, could you not keep reposting that big ass quote with the doubke face palm? I know everytime bubbles post something it seems appropriate but it kinda looses its effect if we see that on every page or so. ;-)
The Vorcha classes are crazy good. Especially since you can shoot and scoot. Heal up / regenerate to full then go back in again. The flamer ability is CRAZY Over Powered in Bronze challanges. I just stood my ground and before an coming brute / banshee can reach you, its dead. ;-)
Kinda disappointed with the Krysae though. The Reegar carbine though is fast becoming my favorite close-in weapon of choice. Basically an Arc "flame thrower"... What's not to like?
Wonder if they will release one more MP DLC before or in conjunction with the EC DLC? Hmnnns, methinks they will, to keep the game alive perhaps.
The Mp is fun. I'm chasing a guy called oblivion up the rank ladder at the moment. Managed to get past the 1k mark only to find the highest score is well over the 4k mark!
As for favourite gun? Always the antimaterial rifle but I'm starting to like the saber "Pah-choo" firing noise. It's nearly a sniper rifle with the right mods.
Still hoping for a 'board the Reaper' MP map. I know indoc is a factor but after capturing all those indoctrination devices they must have an idea how to block it. Just lose the rocket launcher, strap an anti indoc device to your back and blast away. It could be an ultra hard mode MP map without rockets.
I just finished ME3 yesterday. With the same Shepard I played ME1 and ME2.
There is a multitude of memorable moments throughout the series. It's hard to pick just one. The series is that good.
However, it's fairly easy to pick the lowest point of the series: the ending. Unfortunately, this one bad moment overshadows all the good ones. Maybe sometime in the future when the ending isn't so fresh in my mind I'll be able to overlook it. But this is certainly not the case now.
I'm sure this has been discussed to death in many hate-inflamed threads, but these are the reasons I personally find the ending to be a deal breaker:
1) All endings are exactly the same. It's really just one ending. 2) None of the tough decisions you made in the entire series nor those extremely deep reletionships you built with various NPCs really make any difference in the outcome.
This was not what we were promised.
Two more reasons I thought the ending was terrible:
1) Normandy crash-landing on Eden planet is simply nonsensical. 2) AI-kid's logic is absurd. Whole dialogue with him was too short and contrived to be convincing at all.
I'm skeptical about any DLC fixes to the ending and I fear any such attempts would deteriorate the matter even further, instead of helping. But, please, if a DLC that rewrites/expands the ending will be released, do *not* charge for it. That would be insulting.
Finally: I'm not attacking neither Bioware nor EA. I just wanted to provide feedback. And, yes, I'm coming late to the discussion, I know.
Please feel free to cite the Deus Ex Machina in LOTR and Dune. And, yeah, it does mean I'm right because unlike you I don't base my posts on conjecture or personal opinion, but ground it in fact. That post is not my opinion but a literary defintion just like my previous one defining the dictionary defintion of "end" which you decided to disregard. So you appartently know better than the dictionary and the literary community as well. If you want to make an argument it needs to be made with substance and not simply hot air. I've provided facts, reason, and logic backed up with evidence cited from knowledgable sources. You vomit non-sense from your face hole and then put your fingers in your ears and shout "La La La, I can't hear you!" Now, you're going to say I'm wrong, right? Well, go ahead and PROVE IT![/quote] In Dune it is his inner memories that they use to explain things.....Int lord of the rings it is a dead Gandolf. [/quote] Wrong and wrong, did you not read the definition of Deus Ex MAchina. The Inner memory concept is well established throughout the entire story and series. It is not randomly and unexplainably dropped in at the very end. Neither is Gandalfs return since he reappears in the middle of the Two Towers not the very end and when he's introduced he not some fix all for the story. All of the characters still have to go through their dramatic struggles of which Gandalf has limited interaction. But thank you for proveing me right with your 1 sentence flimsy, and poorly thought out response. Keep trying Bubble.[/quote]
Yeah something happened to this post thread. Where the comments got swapped, thanks for pointing this out Redbelle.
I just finished ME3 yesterday. With the same Shepard I played ME1 and ME2.
There is a multitude of memorable moments throughout the series. It's hard to pick just one. The series is that good.
However, it's fairly easy to pick the lowest point of the series: the ending. Unfortunately, this one bad moment overshadows all the good ones. Maybe sometime in the future when the ending isn't so fresh in my mind I'll be able to overlook it. But this is certainly not the case now.
I'm sure this has been discussed to death in many hate-inflamed threads, but these are the reasons I personally find the ending to be a deal breaker:
1) All endings are exactly the same. It's really just one ending. 2) None of the tough decisions you made in the entire series nor those extremely deep reletionships you built with various NPCs really make any difference in the outcome.
This was not what we were promised.
Two more reasons I thought the ending was terrible:
1) Normandy crash-landing on Eden planet is simply nonsensical. 2) AI-kid's logic is absurd. Whole dialogue with him was too short and contrived to be convincing at all.
I'm skeptical about any DLC fixes to the ending and I fear any such attempts would deteriorate the matter even further, instead of helping. But, please, if a DLC that rewrites/expands the ending will be released, do *not* charge for it. That would be insulting.
Finally: I'm not attacking neither Bioware nor EA. I just wanted to provide feedback. And, yes, I'm coming late to the discussion, I know.
And don't forget how out of character Shepard acts. Who was that pod person? That sure isn't the behavior of the Shepard any of us has come to know.
Hmm, this has already been addressed by me and others here. I've said why I don't think that's appropriate, but apparently you seem to think that unless a debate or dispute commences in a court of law, it has no validity. Strange, when this seems very anti-Bioware for someone who claims to have Bioware's back.
No one here want to sue Bioware. In fact, we've also spoken of the great like or even love we have for them and what they've achieved. Taking them to court is counter-productive to what we'd like to see happen. We've always stated we prefer an open, honest dialog with them. I as an individual that belongs to no organization but am merely one in a huge group of Bioware fans, merely want them to return the game ending to the same awesome level as the rest of the games.
I have no wish to become their adversary. I have been their customer, a fan of their games. I merely want to retain those titles and I am trying to give them the chance to keep getting my money.
You consistently assume the worst in what people are saying. Sad little man.
You adress it as if it is still valid yet refuse to test it.
Hmm, this has already been addressed by me and others here. I've said why I don't think that's appropriate, but apparently you seem to think that unless a debate or dispute commences in a court of law, it has no validity. Strange, when this seems very anti-Bioware for someone who claims to have Bioware's back.
No one here want to sue Bioware. In fact, we've also spoken of the great like or even love we have for them and what they've achieved. Taking them to court is counter-productive to what we'd like to see happen. We've always stated we prefer an open, honest dialog with them. I as an individual that belongs to no organization but am merely one in a huge group of Bioware fans, merely want them to return the game ending to the same awesome level as the rest of the games.
I have no wish to become their adversary. I have been their customer, a fan of their games. I merely want to retain those titles and I am trying to give them the chance to keep getting my money.
You consistently assume the worst in what people are saying. Sad little man.
You adress it as if it is still valid yet refuse to test it.
@liarasshield Please don't take this the wrong way but if you don't mind, could you not keep reposting that big ass quote with the doubke face palm? I know everytime bubbles post something it seems appropriate but it kinda looses its effect if we see that on every page or so. ;-)
As for the MP DLC, about 2.5 mil credits later My MP Stats Page Krysae and Reegar Xes
The Vorcha classes are crazy good. Especially since you can shoot and scoot. Heal up / regenerate to full then go back in again. The flamer ability is CRAZY Over Powered in Bronze challanges. I just stood my ground and before an coming brute / banshee can reach you, its dead. ;-)
Kinda disappointed with the Krysae though. The Reegar carbine though is fast becoming my favorite close-in weapon of choice. Basically an Arc "flame thrower"... What's not to like?
Wonder if they will release one more MP DLC before or in conjunction with the EC DLC? Hmnnns, methinks they will, to keep the game alive perhaps.
You got the two "Best" combo weapons bro. Carni and Tempest. Those two will carry you for most situations. Unless you are doing Gold runs.
Unfortunately, some peeps can be rather elitist when it comes to gold runs, though I can understand why. 4 Atlases and a butt load of Phantoms at the same time coming at you + horde of centurions make for pretty crazy plays.
Reaper Boarding sounds really fun actually. MP as it is, is a little repetitive, they did add in the "escort" mission which is pretty good, but what they need is more varied objectives. (kinda like what the ending needs ) Instead of waves, make it one long run to a Reaper Core, set it to blow up, then make your way out on a timer with opposition trying their best to keep you as "guest" on a doomed ship? FUN.
As for buying packs. DON'T spend a single dime. Just play the game as you normally would, each Bronze challenge nets you about 15k credits, Silver about 20-25k, and Gold about 30-40k credits. Just do Bronze though for "easy" money.
You got the two "Best" combo weapons bro. Carni and Tempest. Those two will carry you for most situations. Unless you are doing Gold runs.
Unfortunately, some peeps can be rather elitist when it comes to gold runs, though I can understand why. 4 Atlases and a butt load of Phantoms at the same time coming at you + horde of centurions make for pretty crazy plays.
Reaper Boarding sounds really fun actually. MP as it is, is a little repetitive, they did add in the "escort" mission which is pretty good, but what they need is more varied objectives. (kinda like what the ending needs ) Instead of waves, make it one long run to a Reaper Core, set it to blow up, then make your way out on a timer with opposition trying their best to keep you as "guest" on a doomed ship? FUN.
As for buying packs. DON'T spent a single dime. Just play the game as you normally would, each Bronze challenge nets you about 15k credits, Silver about 20-25k, and Gold about 30-40k credits. Just do Bronze though for "easy" money.
Aye, the packs bought with BW points are really micro transactions and given that in game credits are so easy to come buy, unnessary. Save the points for the DLC's.
Come to think of it, I wonder if this free DLC is being funded by ppl spending BW points on packs...... TF2 went that way and is holding up well.
Speaking of guns, That Tempest is indeed a sweet little uzi mascarading as a rife. Put on the light weight materials mod and it essentially becomes a high RoF gun that impacts little on your abilities. I usually pair it with the antimaterial rofle or a shotgun for my Infiltrators and Vanguards.
On that note, I am loving the way BW set up the class system. I usually specialise in most games with a single class or two but this MP has me playing all of them. Not up to full speed on a few but being able to reset the class level and try again is a sweet feature.
Atm I use the Phaeston or Geth Pulse rifle - not sure if the GPR is better as it's a Geth weapon and I'm getting extra bonuses or not. I play late at night and I'm generally to tired for focusing on head shots. (been increasing lately though with rifles)
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again the catalyst isnt the good guy the enemy that has been destroying advanced organics for generations and then saying their going to save us from advanced synthetics but then use the geth to kill us or fight us with their reaper code after nearly destroying the galaxy and do this a thousand times over do you really think the reapers are just gonna sit down and drink milk and cookies with us I hardly doubt so 
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