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[Archonsg]

BearlyHere wrote...

Be careful of mentioning the S game, DJ. I did in another thread and had my post deleted.

I dabble in writing too, and I have to ask if you have your ending in mind when you set out to write a new piece. I can't wrap my head around what I've read about them not having an ending as late as November and Hudson and Walters locking themselves away from the rest of the creative team and pulling a lost on us, but with an extra dose of deus ex machina and served in a martini glass with a rim of sh*t, artfully arranged and extra bitter.

Don't forget three servings of blissful suicide, a dash of betrayal and a huge portion of stupid.
Allow to simmer for months, watch as ire rises, than as icing, flip a middle finger to the fans by telling them how stupid they are for not understanding "art".

Modifié par Archonsg, 16 juin 2012 - 01:07 .

[darkway1]

Archonsg wrote...

BearlyHere wrote...

Be careful of mentioning the S game, DJ. I did in another thread and had my post deleted.

I dabble in writing too, and I have to ask if you have your ending in mind when you set out to write a new piece. I can't wrap my head around what I've read about them not having an ending as late as November and Hudson and Walters locking themselves away from the rest of the creative team and pulling a lost on us, but with an extra dose of deus ex machina and served in a martini glass with a rim of sh*t, artfully arranged and extra bitter.

Don't forget three servings of blissful suicide, a dash of betrayal and a huge portion of stupid.
Allow to simmer for months, watch as ire rises, than as icing, flip a middle finger to the fans by telling them how stupid they are for not understanding "art".

......excuse me waitress this isn't what I ordered.....silence......there's a funny taste,can you explain what's in it......silence.......hey,anyone still here......silence.

[tschamp]

You think that at least one Mass Effect 3 dev would have posted in this thread to say that they are still listening.....Hello?.....ECHO...ECHo...ECho...Echo...echo....I guess not...

[darkway1]

Funny isn't it.....think of all the communication tools Bioware has at its disposal,forums,tweets,blogs,game events,websites etc......all of it now rendered useless......it was a very diffident picture before the games launch.

[JennDragonAge]

I realize they put up that FAQ about the DLC, but I feel they would be better seved opening up a genuine dialogue. I know a lot reviewers have written that those unsatisfied with the ending that have the audacity to actually say so are a bunch of entitled whiners, but no one is buying it. For the most part, I have read thoughtful questions, analyses, and suggestions. Yes, some posts have been more heated, but I think to a point that's understandable. To me, it's not just about ME3 (although it's the game that really opened my eyes to the changes occurring in Bioware games as of late); it's about the Dragon Age franchise as well as other possible future Bioware games. Bioware was my go to for video games. True RPGS are seldom made anymore, and Bioware was making some of the best (great dialogue, great stories, varied choices, interesting ensemble characters). I don't want to see that change. There's enough multiplayer shooters and MMOs. I feel that this is the opportunity for Bioware to see that and embrace their strength as a maker of RPGs that appeal across gender, race, sexual preference, and culture. I want Bioware to succeed and feel like if they listened to their fans they would. Feedback is a valuable tool for honing one's skills, and I hope this thread continues to provide it until it's either heard or obvious that it's fallen on deaf ears. With the hours of enjoyable entertainment that Bioware has provided, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt until I see the final ending product (and crossing my fingers that they are indeed listening even if they aren't answering).

[BlueStorm83]

darkway1 wrote...

Funny isn't it.....think of all the communication tools Bioware has at its disposal,forums,tweets,blogs,game events,websites etc......all of it now rendered useless......it was a very diffident picture before the games launch.

---  They're not rendered useless.  They're just left in a closet, gathering dust, while BioWare hides behind the couch, thinking we can't see them through the curtains, pretending to not be home.  It didn't work when I was a kid, it's not working now.

[darkway1]

Bioware is universally excepted as one of the finest game producers out there,the Mass Effect franchise has done things never before seen,importing your own created character over a span of 3 games,a continuous story arch,constant (voiced) characters and locations.......I mean,it's no wonder people get so attached to the franchise and the universe....it is amazing.

Bioware wasn't given a fanbase,it didn't give it's self a solid reputation,Bioware had to earn it by creating fantastic game experiences............but the circus we presently find ourselves in,is insane,it's like dealing with a total stranger,with different ethic's,a different approach,a different mentality altogether.........Mass3 raises some serious issues with the franchise,legitimate questions need to be answered........why won't Bioware respond????.

[Benchpress610]

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

[LilyasAvalon]

@Benchpress: That's actually so sad, it's not funny.

Honestly, the EC better be good because I still really feel like BW is giving me the finger in regards to ME3.

[Arppis]

Benchpress610 wrote...

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

Well I don't want to post into topics that turn into total flamewars. Besides, we got enough threads about the ending sucking. Why not let people who have differing opinion say that they liked it with all it's flaws?

[darkway1]

Benchpress610 wrote...

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

To be fair,if a thread is created to give positive feed back then people should not be posting negative comments,there are plenty of other threads to do just that.I really don't know why Chris Priestly stepped in to lay down the law,that's a "mods" job???.........but breaking any forum TOS can lead to being banned no matter what site your dealing with.
A little tip for people,don't get personal......some times people purposely try to provoke others in order to get a hostile response.....of course,any hostile personal response can lead to an instant ban.
I personally like the idea of BIOWARE shouting and screaming,defending,explaining,justifying their art/product/stance..........that's what creative people do,that's what people who care do......all this PR crap just creates walls and barriers,can't fix any thing that way.

[Redbelle]

Arppis wrote...

Benchpress610 wrote...

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

Well I don't want to post into topics that turn into total flamewars. Besides, we got enough threads about the ending sucking. Why not let people who have differing opinion say that they liked it with all it's flaws?

Sooooooooo, it sounds like they have opened a thread to divert all the, as I'm sure they would term it, 'negative feedback', and left it to hang?

If CP hasn't been reading this thread then, while there has been the odd teeth spitting rager getting it out of their system posting........ (and as long as venting helps then I'm all for it cause bottling feeling like that up is imho self destructive), CP has missed out on some very well crafted:

plot analysis,
character analysis,
points of view,
suggestions for fixes/improvements and
suggestions for future content..........

Now I'm not without sympathy for CP, having to read through the number of threads out there is probably a 9-5 job, even with help and support. But without CP or one of his helpers chipping in to comment we are left to consider the facts as they apparent.

CP started this thread, and has since shown no evidence of supporting or arguing for or against the thoughts of the posters. I appreciate that for all intents and purposes CP is god in that he holds the power for who and what may continue to post, but if his actions are preventing posters from saying what they want to say in an arena where their words will be heard then I have to ask, what in this galactic quadrant does he think he's playing at? He may be able to nudge conversations in a particular direction but this thread is well over 900 pages long. It's a conversation that keeps delivering more of the above as more people add their PoV from playing ME3.

Oh well, maybe all this is mote. CP may just be waiting for the EC DLC to come out so he can lock this thread and start a new one labeled........ The Mass Effect 3 ECDLC. Yes, we listened........

............Time will tell. Meanwhile maybe CP could post about what his favourite drink is while working. That seems fairly neutral territory.

Modifié par Redbelle, 16 juin 2012 - 05:01 .

[Redbelle]

darkway1 wrote...

Bioware is universally excepted as one of the finest game producers out there,the Mass Effect franchise has done things never before seen,importing your own created character over a span of 3 games,a continuous story arch,constant (voiced) characters and locations.......I mean,it's no wonder people get so attached to the franchise and the universe....it is amazing.

Bioware wasn't given a fanbase,it didn't give it's self a solid reputation,Bioware had to earn it by creating fantastic game experiences............but the circus we presently find ourselves in,is insane,it's like dealing with a total stranger,with different ethic's,a different approach,a different mentality altogether.........Mass3 raises some serious issues with the franchise,legitimate questions need to be answered........why won't Bioware respond????.

The Fan uncurled from under the duvet as the sound of the door from across the room heralded it's opening. The fan opened their eye's and saw BW striding across the room in that borrowed shirt that hung too loose off BW's body. Two steaming mugs held in BW's hands preceded as BW set one down on the bedside table. Settling on the covers BW held the mug in both hands and regarded the fan coyly, a hint of a smile appearing before disappearing as BW took a sip.

The Fan sat up. "Last night was fantasic. I never knew surviving a Reaper rush would be so intense. And when the missle went off right in it's eye........" The Fan struggled for words as BW looked on. Unable to find them the Fan looked at BW knowing that BW already knew. "It was wonderful......." he said finally, ".......But,"

BW stretched and got up to begin gathering up it's merchandised N7 clothing that lay scattered across the floor. The Fan meanwhile considered it's nexts words with care. "I'm not sure what happened at the end. I can't shake the feeling that I did something wrong the first time. Don't get me wrong." He stammered as BW threw
 on it's N7 hoodie. "I'm glad to have found things went that way. I could still go back and have another go at it. But I'm not exactly sure why it seemed the same as last time........... And who was that Catalyst?" The Fan asked as confidence infused the words that poured out. " I thought it would just be you and me. I'm not against experimenting but I didn't feel anything the second time around either. I feel like I missed something and only you can tell me what that was".

BW, fully dressed, set the mug down next to the Fans and turned away towards the door.

"Wait"! Called the Fans. "I need you to talk to me! I have so many questions!........... Is it me? Did I do something wrong? Why won't you say something!" The Fans final words hit the door as it slid closed leaving the Fan alone in their room with nothing but the aftermath to clean up.

The Fan sat there for awhile before hearing a sound at the door that made the Fan bolt towards it. A slip of paper poked out from underneath and on it was written a short message.

See you in Summer,
                                        Love BW

Modifié par Redbelle, 16 juin 2012 - 05:28 .

[Voodoo-j]

Benchpress610 wrote...

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

As upset as I might be with the ending and how the future is yet uncertain with my future dealins, they at least earned some positive respone.

[V-rcingetorix]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Here's an interesting question. Anyone read the details on the war assets in the tech lab? I was reading the Alliance assets and for the one fleet (can't remember which one right now, but it's the one I think you sacrifice part of if you save the council and Destiny Ascension in ME1)--anyway, for that listing it says they didn't have time to rebuild it before the Reapers came. Ok, wait, they had at least 2 years and then whatever time it was between ME2's beginning and ME3. No time to rebuild but they can build this super big "whatever it does" Crucible?

Ok, and anyone ever wondered about the name Destiny Ascension? Ok, the star kid says people's destiny is to be ascended.....hmmmmm.

I actually found the inability to build more ships believeable; after all, during World War II America was only able to retool it sassembly lines when an actual war was going on. Obviously, there are some counter examples, but Liberty class transports were not being churned out every few days during the Roaring Twenties.

Sacrificing part of a fleet to save the Destiny Ascension seemed logical to me then (will continue to do that in replays). The drive core to the Normandy could have paid for a few thousand fighters, and the Normandy was high-end gear, so let's say the resources for one frigate=50 fighters. Therefore, losing 8 frigates would be the same cost as 400 fighters.

Can you imagine any nation mass-producing 400 fighters during peacetime? Everyone else would get nervous, missiles would be lobbed...am I making sense?

[Redbelle]

V-rcingetorix wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Here's an interesting question. Anyone read the details on the war assets in the tech lab? I was reading the Alliance assets and for the one fleet (can't remember which one right now, but it's the one I think you sacrifice part of if you save the council and Destiny Ascension in ME1)--anyway, for that listing it says they didn't have time to rebuild it before the Reapers came. Ok, wait, they had at least 2 years and then whatever time it was between ME2's beginning and ME3. No time to rebuild but they can build this super big "whatever it does" Crucible?

Ok, and anyone ever wondered about the name Destiny Ascension? Ok, the star kid says people's destiny is to be ascended.....hmmmmm.

I actually found the inability to build more ships believeable; after all, during World War II America was only able to retool it sassembly lines when an actual war was going on. Obviously, there are some counter examples, but Liberty class transports were not being churned out every few days during the Roaring Twenties.

Sacrificing part of a fleet to save the Destiny Ascension seemed logical to me then (will continue to do that in replays). The drive core to the Normandy could have paid for a few thousand fighters, and the Normandy was high-end gear, so let's say the resources for one frigate=50 fighters. Therefore, losing 8 frigates would be the same cost as 400 fighters.

Can you imagine any nation mass-producing 400 fighters during peacetime? Everyone else would get nervous, missiles would be lobbed...am I making sense?

"am I making sense?"

Yes!

It's a simple fact of past wars that you replace what you lose because you need it. And if you have more than the other guy then a battle of attrition will end in the favour of the one who can replace their losses the fastest. Sort of. Napolean once said that victory goes not to the bigger army, but to the side with the better shots...... or something similar along those lines.

On the matter of mass producing 400 planes in peace time though. In principle yes it would make ppl nervous. It would make them especially nervous if they built carriers and/or air refueling planes. Governments would go into meltdown however if they discovered the country making those planes had diverted fuel from the commercial sector to the military to power those planes as such an action would suggest mobilisation in the not so distant future.

Sry, bit of a Tom Clancy fan. He supports the 'watch what they do with the oil to figure out what their plans are', approach.

Modifié par Redbelle, 16 juin 2012 - 06:14 .

[BearlyHere]

Benchpress610 wrote...

I think BW is intently monitoring these forums and here is evidence of what kind of attitude they have about this whole controversy.
 
Somebody opened a this thread titled “Thank You Bioware !!! ” …of course, within the first couple of posts the controversy about the end started…soon enough in the very first page Mr. Priestly posted the following:
 

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
Thanks. I`m glad you`ve enjoyed Mass Effect.
 
To other people here trying to derail this thread taking it off topic, you will be banned. You don`t have to be positive, but if you don`t want to be, stay out or don`t post.
 
 
  

Now he opened this thread, and we are grateful they haven’t locked it. Yet after 900+ pages he haven posted here again. However in a thread that’s supposed to be “positive”, he goes out to defend it with all his might threatening with banning people who won’t post something positive.
 
If that doesn’t tell the whole story of where they stand in this whole fiasco, I don’t know what does.

Remember a few weeks ago he had a fit on the HTL forum about a member 'threatening" Bioware, and it turned out that the threat was merely a threat to take his business elsewhere. I skimmed that thread, and besides the amazing numbers of deleted posts, I don't think the number of posts from people who loved the game and the series would even fill one page, There were many "the game was so good I'll forgive the sucky ending" posts.

And yet we're still having people trickling in who have just finished it who hated it. I'm still trying to wrap my head around Bioware's response. First of all, I suspect that the snarky comments about whiny, entitled gamers was a case of projection where some at Bioware think we should be happy to have a game. I agree it was awesome until the last ten minutes.

I was given ME2, and played it reluctantly because I thought it was a shooter, but I had loved other Bioware games so I gave it a try. And I loved ME2 so much I replayed then bought ME1 and played them both several times. But after three times trying to get the best ending in 3, I not only don't feel like playing them again, I also didn't feel like playing anything at all.

[darkway1]

Redbelle wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Bioware is universally excepted as one of the finest game producers out there,the Mass Effect franchise has done things never before seen,importing your own created character over a span of 3 games,a continuous story arch,constant (voiced) characters and locations.......I mean,it's no wonder people get so attached to the franchise and the universe....it is amazing.

Bioware wasn't given a fanbase,it didn't give it's self a solid reputation,Bioware had to earn it by creating fantastic game experiences............but the circus we presently find ourselves in,is insane,it's like dealing with a total stranger,with different ethic's,a different approach,a different mentality altogether.........Mass3 raises some serious issues with the franchise,legitimate questions need to be answered........why won't Bioware respond????.

The Fan uncurled from under the duvet as the sound of the door from across the room heralded it's opening. The fan opened their eye's and saw BW striding across the room in that borrowed shirt that hung too loose off BW's body. Two steaming mugs held in BW's hands preceded as BW set one down on the bedside table. Settling on the covers BW held the mug in both hands and regarded the fan coyly, a hint of a smile appearing before disappearing as BW took a sip.

The Fan sat up. "Last night was fantasic. I never knew surviving a Reaper rush would be so intense. And when the missle went off right in it's eye........" The Fan struggled for words as BW looked on. Unable to find them the Fan looked at BW knowing that BW already knew. "It was wonderful......." he said finally, ".......But,"

BW stretched and got up to begin gathering up it's merchandised N7 clothing that lay scattered across the floor. The Fan meanwhile considered it's nexts words with care. "I'm not sure what happened at the end. I can't shake the feeling that I did something wrong the first time. Don't get me wrong." He stammered as BW threw
 on it's N7 hoodie. "I'm glad to have found things went that way. I could still go back and have another go at it. But I'm not exactly sure why it seemed the same as last time........... And who was that Catalyst?" The Fan asked as confidence infused the words that poured out. " I thought it would just be you and me. I'm not against experimenting but I didn't feel anything the second time around either. I feel like I missed something and only you can tell me what that was".

BW, fully dressed, set the mug down next to the Fans and turned away towards the door.

"Wait"! Called the Fans. "I need you to talk to me! I have so many questions!........... Is it me? Did I do something wrong? Why won't you say something!" The Fans final words hit the door as it slid closed leaving the Fan alone in their room with nothing but the aftermath to clean up.

The Fan sat there for awhile before hearing a sound at the door that made the Fan bolt towards it. A slip of paper poked out from underneath and on it was written a short message.

See you in Summer,
                                        Love BW

Lol,Wow,now that's what I call an entertaining response......very impressed.....however after the fan reads the note I would like to see the fan open the door and pursue BW with questions,no matter where BW goes the persistent fan is always present,forever asking questions........."if I just say nothing ,perhaps the fan will go away"....thinks BW.

[Dragonblaze420]

all nay saying aside i found me3 to be incredibly enjoyable the new weapons mod weight mechanics general game play story

[darkway1]

Well worth a read.

"If someone gives a well thought out criticism, something that is tangible, those are the people that we try to reward as much as possible. And we want to reward them, because that feedback is how we make better games,"

 http://www.gamesindu...through-success

Modifié par darkway1, 16 juin 2012 - 08:14 .

[Archonsg]

darkway1 wrote...Well worth a read."If someone gives a well thought out criticism, something that is tangible, those are the people that we try to reward as much as possible. And we want to reward them, because that feedback is how we make better games," http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-07-bioware-we-havent-had-a-breakthrough-success

Yeah.
Saw that article.
Think i responded on page 924.

Here's the problem, they say our feedback is important.
Yet, look at both this thread (first 10 pages) and the other "suggestions on endings" thread (also first 10 pages) and if anyone had bothered to read at least these 20 pages, the theme was "we want multiple and different endings that makes sense and not break the Mass Effect lore and world ", not "we want clarity on the ending."

Then, there is the part where our interviewee gushed about EA's CEO.
And, says in essence, "He's a smart man , trust him because, we do. "

Okies... We are to trust the person who thinks creating and exploiting situations where the person playing an EA game would invest into the game, then get that player to engage in micro-transactions, such as paying for bullets, in a shooting game.

Who also claims that it is not beyond possibility for that player to spend several thousand dollars on micro-transactions once the are deeply invested into the game.

Right.
Excuse me if I cannot, but help think of this in terms of drug dealers and how they sucker in unsuspecting "new marks".

Search youtube with key words, EA CEO Interview Micro-transactions evil, to hear the whole thing.

Ps: edits due to posting from phone. Formatting and autocorrect's a pain in the rear.

Modifié par Archonsg, 16 juin 2012 - 10:18 .

[V-rcingetorix]

I posted earlier (around page 150, I think, been a few weeks) after thinking things over for a few days. However, I'll say it again in other words: Bioware did do an excellent job on most of the game.

If ME3 were a concert hall performance, Bioware would have given us a masterful performance of Tchaikovsky's violin Concerto, but then lost the power to use any dynamics or emotional contact in the last fifteen measures. Beautiful, yes, bravo Bioware, but are we expected to forget the last minute?

As a musician, I know that the most important part of any performance is the beginning and ending. A flashy spot in the middle helps ensure a positive feeling about the entire piece, provided the beginning and endings are good.

ME3 was a fantastic sonata, a good prelude, first and second movement (always difficult to maintain quality!), and the third movement was spectacular, playing emotions like a harp. Then the fourth movement had a good start, losing energy while gaining a sense of doom....and then nothing. From a Heifitz masterpiece to an untrained kid with a recorder, Wagner's Rings de Nibelung to See Spot Run.

Please do not take this as criticism, Bioware, take this as praise! To maintain such quality of epicness throughout most of the game is spectacular! The fact that many people are disappointed only proves my point; we had become accustomed to the legendary height of ME3, and were disappointed in a plunge in quality.

We have faith in you Bioware, you can do better, you HAVE done better. Up until the last 10 or so, it WAS better! Plus, we're willing to give you a second chance, BECAUSE you have done better, reliably!

[JennDragonAge]

darkway1 wrote...

Well worth a read.

"If someone gives a well thought out criticism, something that is tangible, those are the people that we try to reward as much as possible. And we want to reward them, because that feedback is how we make better games,"

 http://www.gamesindu...through-success

I wonder if it matters, but in the article they say, "That's why you will soon be able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3."

He didn't say clarifies; he said alters....I wonder if that means there will actually be changes to what currently exists versus just elaboration. 

Either a shred of hope, or he misspoke.

[V-rcingetorix]

I'll post this one more time, but I hope others share my opinion (as some have written, and I thank them for their support).

Sheperd should live in the ultimate paragon ending; it was possible (if you count cheating on Leliana paragon...) in DAO, shouldn't it be possible here? Make it a moral decision, that's one of the things done well in ME1-3. Yes, it can be said to be a moral decision, but in the end, nothing is seen as a reward for making that decision.

To illustrate, difficult decisions and their rewards in the ME universe:

1. Be nice to reporter: get good publicity
2. Free Rachni queen: get support on Crucible.
3. Release Batarian Terrorist: get a leader for Batarian forces in ME3
4. Liberate from Shiala from Thorian and ensure Exogeni support (Freedoms Progress colony):get extra in ME2, get decent support from colony ME3
5. Talk down Wrex: have an ally in ME2, get WMD fire support from Krogan in ME3
6. Save Council: friendly races throughout ME2-ME3, better (paragon) responses
7. Help out your squadmates on ME2: live through Collector attack, plus better support in ME3
8. Open up Grunt's tank: get Ultimate Krogan on your side.
9. Re-program Geth: cause Quarian issues, gain Geth support in ME3
10: Genophage cure: man was this a good one! Gain Salarian/Krogan support, depending on other moral decisions in ME2 (Maelon's research), and ME1 (kill Wrex on Virmire), that was truly an epic cycle spanning decision!

The list can go on and on, but the point is made. Each moral decision has its payoff, whether in a cycle-spanning choice (Wrex on Virmire) or a simple addendum later on (Asari huntress commits suicide in ME3).

Where is the reward for making a truly huge moral decision in the ending of ME3? Two decisions possible, three if enough points are made. And then? Reapers take off, blow up or become the next Sharper Image Organic Upgrade 2.0. Sheperd disintegrates, gasps in rubble, or disintegrates.

Please let Sheperd have a little more story..alive...with family...kinda like max paragon ending to Bioshock 1? Nothing fancy, just a little happiness for an old soldier.

I love Buzz Aldrin in the end zone, he's one of my heroes and I love his taking an active part in firing the imagination of a space-opera. I hope his part was right, "Maybe jsut one more story."