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[Thanatos144]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Bubbles here just keeps coming back and complaining about people he thinks complain too much.  He loves insulting people, but claims he doesn't insult because he doesn't do it too much.  He also is as obsessed with finding fault with people who post here, claiming that we are obsessed (can't see that he is himself).  He's the posting police.  He has a badge, but no gun (thankfully).

He's fond of insulting people's education, but seems to have little grasp of what the word means.  He cannot count above 5 (not my opinion, he repeatedly uses the number 5 as proof of something).  He moved on a long time ago or so he said.  It doesn't look like he has, but who am I to argue with that?

His age is his proof of maturity, but proof lies in deeds, not statements.

He's sometimes ignored, sometimes answered-he helps keep the post count up.

Just like I have to with my children I have to tell you children to go
do something and stop wasting your life on silly obsessions.

[Thanatos144]

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

oh, dude, i'm sorry, i just thought you're just a bored kid. but now i realize that you only mean good. let me just say that we need not your constant atention or your wary edifications. we got it already, you're upset that we're upset. however, you can contribute to this thread any way you like, even as before, but i'll give you the same advice you gave me: "Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a ANYTHING you have issues. " live your life the way you like and let us do the same, mmmkay!?

Yes I must be obsessed to come back here after well over a week.....

Modifié par Thanatos144, 21 juin 2012 - 04:25 .

[sdinc009]

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Are you drunk Bubbles? For a 40 year old you have the writing capabilities of an 8 year old. And I'm pretty certain everyone here has a life outside this forum and have happy lives. We're not here to feed our egos though it appears you are. No, we are here to because we care about the Mass Effect story and if Bioware is listening as they claim they are, then we will voice are opinions in order to provide them with as much constructive criticism as possible. The EC DLC will either be the final nail in the proverbial coffin or the fix to a broken ending 99% of us want, but either way, until it's release most of us still hold out hope.

[Thanatos144]

sdinc009 wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Are you drunk Bubbles? For a 40 year old you have the writing capabilities of an 8 year old. And I'm pretty certain everyone here has a life outside this forum and have happy lives. We're not here to feed our egos though it appears you are. No, we are here to because we care about the Mass Effect story and if Bioware is listening as they claim they are, then we will voice are opinions in order to provide them with as much constructive criticism as possible. The EC DLC will either be the final nail in the proverbial coffin or the fix to a broken ending 99% of us want, but either way, until it's release most of us still hold out hope.

Not a great typer thats for sure.

[Benchpress610]

sonicchaos wrote...


oh, dude, i'm sorry, i just thought you're just a bored kid. but now i realize that you only mean good. let me just say that we need not your constant atention or your wary edifications. we got it already, you're upset that we're upset. however, you can contribute to this thread any way you like, even as before, but i'll give you the same advice you gave me: "Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a ANYTHING you have issues. " live your life the way you like and let us do the same, mmmkay!?

Man that was one of the best answers to Bubbles to date… This guy has been trolling this thread since page 100 or so. There have been long exchanges between him and other posters, but I think 3D handles him pretty good.

[Redbelle]

sdinc009 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

JICMAN wrote...

 just to put a twist at the end they should replace star child w/ a keeper since they were race from first cycle and most likely made the reapers 

most hate on this starchild. i'm not saying i'm fond of him, but you can either interpret his as a familiar projection to shepard or a familiar figure of his imagination in the indoctrination theory. so, i don't see him as a threat to the story, but i would really like to have a more insight on that "higher being" if it's the first one.

If the catalyst would just say.

"I'm from the first cycle. We nearly destroyed all life through our choices. Then another species made the same mistake and that nearly destroyed all life too. That's why we hit on the idea of Reaping and preserving species at the high point of their existence before they make the same mistake as us"

I would be able to sympathise to a greater extent why Reapers became, in the Cat's mind, neccessary. Rubbish for the rest of us but just something to explain why Reaping seemed a good idea at the time.

The problem is that the Catalyst doesn't need to say anything. The narrative is not broken having the Reapers origins unexplained. In fact, having their origins a mystery adds to them being an unkowable malevelant antagonist. Trying to explain them or even humanizing them with an attempt to justify their actions for galactic genocide only serves to weaken them as great villains and disrupts the narrative. This is a typical "if it's not broke, don't fix it" scenario. The Reapers DO NOT need a back story to resolve the narrative. The story is about Shepard and the crew of the Normandy, that is the story that needs a resolution. And not some last minute slapped on ending that's some homage to Babylon 5 or the first Deus Ex game because who ever wrote these endings is a fan of them. What's needed is an ending that fits this narrative not one from another story.

If your saying that the Cat is an unneccesary character then I agree. His presence removes the focus that was previously on Shep, alliance and Reapers.

Unfortunately the Cat does exist and rendered the Reapers status as uber big bads with a question mark

The line I delivered wasn't intended to really add anything that the Cat hasn't already said. Except perhaps context as to why it was done. Because if we take what he said originally, then the arguments arise of how badly the Cat has put forward his motivations for doing what he does.

Extrapolating from his statements I surmise that the Cat has witnessed/lived through the near extinction of all organic life before. I find it easier to deduce creating the Reapers in response to an event, than the possibility of an event occuring. This event needs a starting point and the Cat and Reapers talk in cycles. Therefore the first cycle seems as good as place as any to begin. Surviving one synth extermination attempt may give ppl idea's about creating Reapers but have two, one after the other adds fuel to that potential fire. Seeing other species follow down the same road as the Reaper builders would then result in a preventitive action that serves to keep synth's down and bolsters the Reapers with the species that were the potentially guilty party along with any others that may be at a similar level.

I agree that none of the above needed saying but the moment the Cat opened his mouth this kind of narrative justification became neccessary for a character whose motivations and existence went un-foreshadowed.

[Redbelle]

Thanatos144 wrote...

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Sdinc009

Are you drunk Bubbles? For a 40 year old you have the writing capabilities of an 8 year old. And I'm pretty certain everyone here has a life outside this forum and have happy lives. We're not here to feed our egos though it appears you are. No, we are here to because we care about the Mass Effect story and if Bioware is listening as they claim they are, then we will voice are opinions in order to provide them with as much constructive criticism as possible. The EC DLC will either be the final nail in the proverbial coffin or the fix to a broken ending 99% of us want, but either way, until it's release most of us still hold out hope.

Thanatos144 wrote...
Not a great typer thats for sure.

Sorry Than, didn't understand that last one. Can you expand on where you think the post you replied to needs extra liternary attention?

Modifié par Redbelle, 21 juin 2012 - 04:52 .

[sdinc009]

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Sdinc009

Are you drunk Bubbles? For a 40 year old you have the writing capabilities of an 8 year old. And I'm pretty certain everyone here has a life outside this forum and have happy lives. We're not here to feed our egos though it appears you are. No, we are here to because we care about the Mass Effect story and if Bioware is listening as they claim they are, then we will voice are opinions in order to provide them with as much constructive criticism as possible. The EC DLC will either be the final nail in the proverbial coffin or the fix to a broken ending 99% of us want, but either way, until it's release most of us still hold out hope.

Thanatos144 wrote...
Not a great typer thats for sure.

Sorry Than, didn't understand that last one. Can you expand on where you think the post you replied to needs extra liternary attention?

Sorry Redbelle, but Bubbles can only handle 1 sentence at a time

[jdecker]

Redbelle wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Sdinc009

Are you drunk Bubbles? For a 40 year old you have the writing capabilities of an 8 year old. And I'm pretty certain everyone here has a life outside this forum and have happy lives. We're not here to feed our egos though it appears you are. No, we are here to because we care about the Mass Effect story and if Bioware is listening as they claim they are, then we will voice are opinions in order to provide them with as much constructive criticism as possible. The EC DLC will either be the final nail in the proverbial coffin or the fix to a broken ending 99% of us want, but either way, until it's release most of us still hold out hope.

Thanatos144 wrote...
Not a great typer thats for sure.

Sorry Than, didn't understand that last one. Can you expand on where you think the post you replied to needs extra liternary attention?

Take a look at their profile, it says ---0--- friends ... LMFAO !!! thats why their trolling the site................

[Archonsg]

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sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

oh, dude, i'm sorry, i just thought you're just a bored kid. but now i realize that you only mean good. let me just say that we need not your constant atention or your wary edifications. we got it already, you're upset that we're upset. however, you can contribute to this thread any way you like, even as before, but i'll give you the same advice you gave me: "Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a ANYTHING you have issues. " live your life the way you like and let us do the same, mmmkay!?

Lol!
You and I have a differences about IT, and I respect that.
But this I agree and applaud.

[BearlyHere]

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

Sorry, dude but this really sounds like projection to me. I've also tabletop gamed for too many years with guys who talk about how truthful and honorable and right they were, and everyone else was wrong, when in reality, they didn't know the first thing about any of it. You've made your point. Now go off to the "The ending gave me a stiffy, we luv u, Bioware" thread.

Modifié par BearlyHere, 21 juin 2012 - 05:25 .

[3DandBeyond]

Below is my take on the lack of morality and lack or artistic vision with this ending.  It's not a legal issue.

What is somewhat interesting (though I am not for litigating morality), is that Bioware had the gall to call this ending their artistic vision. It wasn't their artistic vision at all and in the literary community would be subject to certain sanctions. How dare they tell us this is artistic, this is their vision. It so wasn't. In the literary community the rules are actually both somewhat specific as well as general as to what constitutes plagiarism (not involving legal penalties, but leading to censure of some sort). Plagiarism is a morality issue and copyright infringement (theft of intellectual property) is a legal one. ME most likely does not involve civil or criminal infringement, but is really a morality issue.

In many circles, plagiarism is the use of words in a row that are identical to their use in another written work, especially if on the same subject, without citation of the original work's author. Specific whole ideas without citation are even more serious even if the use of identical words are not involved.

For instance, if Mass Effect were only a book and I decided to write 3 books called Moss Effect 1, 2, 3 and created a Commodore Sheffield who was with the Allied and was going after creepers, consumers, Daren, Sovereignty, Haymaker, and The Elusive Dude (TED), had a ship called the Omaha Beach, and met Alari, Tarians, Quarials, Savarians, and the like, and tried to pass everything off as original, I would morally be guilty of plagiarism and I would be ostracized in the community. Literary reviewers would want my head and demand an explanation. Publishers would not want to print what I wrote.

But, Bioware takes whole pieces of other games and slaps it obviously onto the ending of ME (where they do not fit) and their own reviewers (comparable to literary reviewers for printed works) extol the virtue of their artistic vision.

I call into question the basic morality of not only those who "borrowed" this content, but the morality of those who claim to be the smartest of the smart and know everything there is to know about video gaming (how can they repeatedly overlook Deus ex when it's been brought up exhaustively). They allow this to go on. So, apparently though I could never write a Moss Effect book series, the powers that be should have no problem if I decide to create Moss Effect video games.

Intellectual property "rights" only matter if every time it happens, someone cries foul. Sad that those in the industry that should know better and that are the loudest voices when someone tries to "steal" from them, are silent on the issue and complicit in such rights being stolen. Perhaps as well no one will cry foul if I decide to create a website called ING and make it look exactly like IGN's site and if I use their content as well, or maybe I need to create one called Megacritic. Fair is fair. And morality is only morality if equally applied. IGN specifically outlines what is and isn't plagiarism on their site, specifically for their wiki-they don't allow it.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 21 juin 2012 - 06:05 .

[dannycantspell]

Why did Liara and Edi walk off the crashed Normandy when they were the ones who had been with me for the final fight.... and shouldn't the fusion have fixed Seth Greens limp?

[Archonsg]

@3dandbeyond

To be fair, hardly anything can be written today without some form of plagiarism, given the amount of content out there.

I mean, if we take the entire ME series for example, I am sure if we look hard enough, we'd find some snippets of content from various sources to include a story of humans coming into ascendancy, a maverick commander who brings good old human community building / xenophobia (paragon/renegade) to bear while fighting an unknown menace that no one wants to believe till too late, then look on to him/her as their only hope.

Now while I am a fan of the Babylon 5 series, and I do see plenty of influences from that show (a good thing in my opinion) I am not in any way suggesting that they should steal or plagiarize from that worthy show slavishly.

Just a little.

Seriously though, it all boiled down to the ending theme, their "artistic vision" as it is. That is, to see Shepard die, the relays destroyed, and the Normandy and crew stranded on a paradise planet. The breath scene while a tease, isn't really a commitment to the fact that Shepard lives. (I'll get back to this) Every colored flavor, red, blue or green has this theme and in working. Backwards to get this result had the Crucible's story, the Catalyst and the whole illogical, mess, plugged into Mass Effect's story.
Making the ending, illogical and pointless.

Now coming back to the whoke breath thing, if we were to look at the ending as a prank, and one that was malicious in nature, wouldn't it have made sense that the people who wrote this prank thought it would be a hoot, to give this scene to the one choice where you are asked to betray friends and allies especially if you played as mostly paragon to see if you would make this choice just to have that little glimmer of hope to see Shepard alive.

Note that if IT was to be true, then in all choices, you would have Shepard's body on the ground amongst the rubble, visible and easily found, but they choose NOT to include a few seconds of anyone discovering Shepard's lifeless corpse. Which on the flip side of IT as it is envisioned, isn't a commitment that Shepard is dead either.

Either way, whether you take IT or not into consideration, that last bit does require a player, especially one who has romanced Tali, saved the Quarians and the Geth, and saved and nurtured EDI, to betray them all just to get that two second glimpse.

That the game is incomplete is no question.
But I am now more convinced that more and more that the ending itself was intentionally sabotaged to get a rise, a reaction if you will, from the people who played it.

Ps. : posting from phone so please ignore the odd spelling error or formatting issues

Modifié par Archonsg, 21 juin 2012 - 06:49 .

[Benchpress610]

dannycantspell wrote...

Why did Liara and Edi walk off the crashed Normandy when they were the ones who had been with me for the final fight.... and shouldn't the fusion have fixed Seth Greens limp?

Magic!!

[Archonsg]

Benchpress610 wrote...

dannycantspell wrote...

Why did Liara and Edi walk off the crashed Normandy when they were the ones who had been with me for the final fight.... and shouldn't the fusion have fixed Seth Greens limp?

Magic!!

To be more precise "space magic!":wizard: (and I get to use that << smiley)

[skyflare]

**** Space Magic!

[Heiwa no Senso]

skyflare wrote...

**** Space Magic!

got it.

[BlueStorm83]

Thanatos144 wrote...

sonicchaos wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Thanatos144 wrote...

Its a game people.

Wow, really?  Thanks for clearing that up.  All the time I thought we were talking about real life, but you've brought clarity that was lacking.  I wish I had this kind of real knowledge.  I might have veered off and thought we were talking about donuts or rodeos or something.  Thanks again.

What you need to wish for is a life. I suggest you find one and maybe you will be more happy in life. I am pretty sure you 6000 posts saying the same thing has been heard now your posting just to feed your ego.

so what's your beef in this, kid? is someone holding a gun to your face or something?

I am 40 so that wuld makwe a damn old kid and I have no beef Just find os absurd you all spend months saying the same thing all day long ....Get out of thre house. Do something. Get a job. Play a sport. DO SOMETHING!  if you this obsessed with a game you have issues.

I am interested in something I have and own.  It is tangible to me.  I look to my right: there, atop my TV table, next to my coffee mug, is the box for Mass Effect 3.  I engage in conversations that are related to the interest in that product I have.

You show up again and again to whine at people you do not know.  Strangers.  About a topic that you say you are not interested in.

My time is well spent; even if the ending is never changed, I've engaged in stimulating conversations with people who all have opinions on something that I also have an opinion on.

You, on the other hand... well, I don't know why you're spending your time here.  And I can't understand why, if what you say is true, you would give up your valuable 40 year old adult time to insult people that you seem to think are children, at least mentally.  That's a little sad, I'm sorry to say.

---  Oh, and by the way, a 40 year old should learn to spell, capitalize, and punctuate.  Or to at least use a kind of Spell Check.

[Archonsg]

skyflare wrote...**** Space Magic!

Space magic in itself isn't bad.
It gave us biotics, the Asari (and yes, I'd tap that), the Quarians and other "space magicky" stuff.

It is how deep into that space magic pool that speaking for myself, I am against. Since in my opinion, Mass Effect the series was 2.99 parts science fiction and only went into space fantasy in that last 0.01 part of the series.

[Andy the Black]

Archonsg wrote...

skyflare wrote...**** Space Magic!

Space magic in itself isn't bad.
It gave us biotics, the Asari (and yes, I'd tap that), the Quarians and other "space magicky" stuff.

It is how deep into that space magic pool that speaking for myself, I am against. Since in my opinion, Mass Effect the series was 2.99 parts science fiction and only went into space fantasy in that last 0.01 part of the series.

I just can't help but think of this fantastic deleted scene from Doctor Who when somone says space magic. Space Gandalf!
youtu.be/UeJ4Ak2xCkw

Modifié par Andy the Black, 21 juin 2012 - 07:29 .

[BlueStorm83]

3DandBeyond wrote...

sdinc009 wrote...

This explanation would have been perfectly fine. The Reapers do what they do to increase their numbers is a perfectly understandable explanation without the stupidity of "organics vs. synthetics" reasoning. It fits very well into the existing narrative. I also seem to recall that the Reapers don't just harvest the advanced civilizations populous, but also their technology. Even though every cycle is led down the same technolological path they can still develop creative advancements. So the Reaping of each cycle serves to increase the Reapers numbers as well as provide better technology making them more resilient with each cycle.

I tend to think that eating isn't necessarily the same of course as we see it.  Other races can have other nutrient needs.  Why not the processing power of people's minds, or their very DNA?  They hinted at a lot of things the reapers were looking for and human diversity and ability was a constant theme.  It was something Mordin said, Javik implied, and even the Collectors seemed to be after, especially from Shepard. 

And yes, the reapers take everything supposedly-all the resources.  I think they gain something from every reaping.  Or, at least that's what I thought it could mean.

---  They could have wrapped things up very nicely with a different conversation from the Starboy.  We could change him into a hologram of Harbinger, making one last desperate plea for the fate of his race.  He could have said that the reason the Reapers did what they did was because... they had no other choice.  They couldn't reproduce any other way.  They were Stagnant.  And that's why Humanity interested them so much- that unprecedented level of genetic diversity would have allowed the Reapers to make multiple new Reapers, all compatible with each other, and that would have let them reproduce as any other life form would.  That's why they go dormant for 50 thousand years at a time.  It would explain why they moved the Citadel to Earth, it would explain why they wanted Shepard's body (to see just how compatible a high functioning human would be with Reaper Tech) it would explain the Collectors' searching for genetic mutations and all of that.  It would explain why Reapers kill off other races: Why let them clutter up a Galaxy where more diverse races could flourish with more room?  It would show why they left their Technology around: Get them out there faster to reproduce faster, so if we find the diversity we need, then BAM, they're already ripe for the picking!

Then they could have given us REAL hard choices in the end.  We could have the option to turn on the Crucible and wipe the Reapers out.  We could have the option to try and talk them down: volunteer genetic samples to them, allow them to cultivate their own mindless clones sheerly for the genetic material to make their new Reapers without needing to kill ANYONE.  We could even have the option to use the Crucible to become some sort of Reaper Commander ourselves, enslaving the Reapers as Humanity's new guard dogs.  Each of these endings would have possible misgivings.  Destroying the Reapers would be good... but it would leave humanity DECIMATED from the war, and vulnerable to any old enemies who still might not like us.  Talking the Reapers into peace for the promise of genetic samples and resources would have the downside of, obviously, they could be lying to us and try something else later, even if they all DO run away and we keep the Crucible and the Citadel connected as a deterrent.  And trying to become a Reaper Commander using Crucible Tech would obviously have the misgivings that nobody else was ever able to control the Reapers.

All we'd need to do would be to have two things inside the Crucible: a targeting and firing console, and some sort of chair or pod that would hook into a dude's mind, a'la Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis.  And have someone we TRUST give us the Options.  Hackett, Anderson, ANY of our crew!

[Andy the Black]

Ignore this. Internet doesn't like me today.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 21 juin 2012 - 07:31 .

[twinsfun]

We are loyal fans,why are we treated like dirt,we just want a better ending not the whole game

[Archonsg]

Andy the Black wrote...

Archonsg wrote...skyflare wrote...**** Space Magic! Space magic in itself isn't bad. It gave us biotics, the Asari (and yes, I'd tap that), the Quarians and other "space magicky" stuff. It is how deep into that space magic pool that speaking for myself, I am against. Since in my opinion, Mass Effect the series was 2.99 parts science fiction and only went into space fantasy in that last 0.01 part of the series.

I just can't help but think of this fantastic deleted scene from Doctor Who when I read space magic. Space Gandalf! youtu.be/UeJ4Ak2xCkw

Heh!


What I'd give for a TARDIS.





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