Mass Effect 3: Final Hours [Pictures removed due to Copyright]
#2651
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 08:49
#2652
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 12:24
Dammit, what am I doing now with my CE? If it had stopped after ME 2, with the lingereing danger from outer space, well that would have been an end...
Dont get me wrong, ME 3 is raelly a great experience. But i need to avoid the last 5 minutes.
#2653
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 02:04
Bedavenerabilis wrote...
So after all it seems that all the promises they made before the release havent even been taken into consideration when they get to make the ending...
Dammit, what am I doing now with my CE? If it had stopped after ME 2, with the lingereing danger from outer space, well that would have been an end...
Dont get me wrong, ME 3 is raelly a great experience. But i need to avoid the last 5 minutes.
Yep just let Marauder Shields win and the game is a little better.
On the note of the day one DLC I personally don't see how it matters if it was originally intended to be included and they decided wait we want monies precious precious monies and we don't have much content to sells people! so they take it off the game and sell it as dlc it's their product until it reaches the shelves they can do what they want. If they want to go that route for it they can do that the only way I'd complain is if they i dunno recalled the game removed it from it then repacked it sold it without and charged the dlc for it which would never happen.
the ending was just aweful and am i the only one that wanted to shoot star kid in the face even before he bacame star kid! i want to start a petition to keep "little kids" who are there for some sort emotional lol catylist out of my video games and movies. It's just a cheap ploy but that's what the entire ending of this game is a cheap ploy. It gives me the impression that that just flat out didn't have any decent ideas for the ending from the start no good ideas went into development so no good ideas were done. They took this bad ending and ran with it and as far as i can tell made it worse in an attempt to make it better by trying to leave it open. They claim they were ending the shepard saga and were out to clear up all lose ends well sorry but by giving speculation and leaving an ending open either to interpretation or speculation then you essentially kill any chance at pulling off an actual end to the shepard saga.
I'm still trying to figure out why they're killing the shepard saga off? i mean they made money eventually it'll get old and end but with each game selling more than the last why not just make this the end of the reapers and strap on those writting overalls and get to work on a new idea for a villian. Or heck i dunno end the game with shep being old and unable to fight that way you leave it as an open universe but that preticular hero has had his day and at least then you can give a 30 years later epologe.
the fact that there's no documentation of ending ideas like that even being presented is a testimate to how closed off the writting for mass effect 3 really was just because they may have had a rough idea of the series ending a certain way doesn't mean they should have went with that endingat the cost of a consistant storyline.
#2654
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 02:20
This IS the bittersweet ending.
We find out that they made the endings horrible on purpose, but we also learn that it was not some grand scheme, but that they are simply not very good at what they do.
The sweet part is that perhaps, just maybe, this in not some intricate moneygrab plot to sell us a real ending.
The bitter part is learning that bioware is currently bereft of the artistic skill to create a decent ending anyway.
This app IS the real ending DLC. It reveals that in fact Bioware did die in the end.
#2655
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 02:59
#2656
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 04:10
Dunno what to think about the (possible) DLC. Even more so if it´ll cost something
#2657
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:08
#2658
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 05:50
Well, they got what they wanted, nobody predicted that the ending would ruin the series.
#2659
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 11:33
Shadow-Novus wrote...
It just felt...video gamey?? THIS IS A VIDEO GAME!!!!Casey on the End Boss
We had the final fight with the Illusive man in the game, but it just felt very Video Gamey. It didnt fit in with the themes. And really, is there a point of the end boss if only for the sake of an end boss?
I'm sorry that logic just baffles me.
And an end boss for the sake of an end boss is better than no end boss at all. Come on, that wasn't something that needed to be "fixed"
I don't see how "themes" factors in when the current ending doesn't seem to do any better...
i totally agree with you, how does the ending provided fit with the theme of the game......might have well have been god from southpark talking to us at the end, you know that duck like thing.
#2660
Guest_npoqrhgcnpouheprouhncpo_*
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 01:20
Guest_npoqrhgcnpouheprouhncpo_*
Shadow-Novus wrote...
It just felt...video gamey?? THIS IS A VIDEO GAME!!!!Casey on the End Boss
We had the final fight with the Illusive man in the game, but it just felt very Video Gamey. It didnt fit in with the themes. And really, is there a point of the end boss if only for the sake of an end boss?
I'm sorry that logic just baffles me.
And an end boss for the sake of an end boss is better than no end boss at all. Come on, that wasn't something that needed to be "fixed"
I don't see how "themes" factors in when the current ending doesn't seem to do any better...
What about if your Renegade Shepard agreed with the intentions of TIM and Cerberus to advance humanity and actually wanted to continue helping him in ME3
That's also an option that has been REMOVED
Let's remember the enemy is the Reapers..... TIM is a Renegade not a Reaper
#2661
Guest_Ashley Foster_*
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 06:05
Guest_Ashley Foster_*
Abisco wrote...
Hey guys,
So Geoff Keighley (the guy who is the host of Spike Tv's GTTV) released an iPad app called Mass Effect 3: The Final Hours (which you can find here: http://t.co/6GvlZqQg).
Here's the official website: ME3 The Final Hours
It supposedly has insider information on scrapped parts of the game, interviews with bioware staff over some of the moments in the game, and never before seen art work (which was also scrapped). I just bought the app and hope to update you guys later on, with any interesting news from the app.
Also a Windows/Mac version will be out later, presumably through steam (its the same as the final hours for portal 2).
The cost is $2.99
Interesting Quotes: (Please note, some of these I'm transcribing from Video's. I'm trying to be as accurate as possible. Will try rewatching the videos later and updating then.)Mac Walters on the Star Child/Reapers
"Originally, with the catalyst, the star child at the end of the game, I had written that much more in the guise of a investigative style conversation, where there is something he tells you but then, you get to ask a bunch of questions and you get your questions answered. But then me and Casey talked and decided, lets keep the conversation "High level". Give you the details that you need to know, but don't get into the stuff that you don't need to know. Like "How long have they been reaping?" You don't need to know the answers to the mass effect universe. So we intentionally left those out"Casey on after Mass Effect 3
"Whatever we do would likely happen before or during the events of Mass Effect 3, not after"On delaying the game
In march 2011, he also faced a roomful of Mass Effect developers who expressed concern about hitting the promised holiday release date... New release date set for March 2012. After much deliberation, the CAT mission (or rather, the Prothean mission) had to be removed from the set of tasks. The missions would later be completed as post-release content"Casey on the End Boss
'We had the final fight with the Illusive man in the game, but it just felt very Video Gamey. It didnt fit in with the themes. And really, is there a point of the end boss if only for the sake of an end boss?'
The article also states 'Although art was created for this sequence, it was ultimately dropped because it felt too predictable to end the series on a massive boss battle.'On Tali's Face
We eventually decided that she gives you a memento of her pictures, but the team was throwing around a lot of pictures and designs until we decided on something and said "Yup, that's her".On Deciding the End of the Game
The illusive man boss fight had been scrapped... but there was still much debate. 'One night walters scribbled down some thought on various ways the game could end with the line "Lots of speculation for Everyone!" at the bottom of the page.'
In truth the final bits of dialogue were debated right up until the end of 2011. Martin sheen's voice-over session for the illusive man, originally scheduled for August, was delayed until mid-November so the writers would have more time to finesse the ending.
And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's movement and fall under full reaper control. (This sequence was dropped because the gaemplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement alongside dialogue choices).
Deleted Scenes Videos:
- Liara and Garrus are running behind sheppard in the run for the conduit. Garrus falls over and Liara tries to pick him up. As he gets up, the two run and are hit by a laser as sheppard watches on without hope. In the final version (which is shown beside the deleted scenes video.) the body of your team mates are on the floor dead instead.
Edit: Sorry, those images can't be posted here due to copy right. Please do not post them on these forums.- Chris
Kay so the images were taken down, just wanted to let everyone know, Keep the discussion civil. Also if you question the authenticity of any of the things being posted here, buy the app for yourself or wait for the PC version and buy it there. I think the APP is very much worth it with all the info it has...
Some notes
- DO NOT POST THE PICTURES.
- Be civil
- If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I will not be sending the pictures to anyone... buy the app your self if you would like to do that.
- Keep in mind the money for this app goes towards development costs of the App. There's a lot to the app, and I personally feel it was worth $3, it had loads of information and was a rewarding read. That is all.
Thank you for the great topic and sharing all of this, watching and reading all of this made me wonder?
Are we okay with that?
#2662
Guest_Ashley Foster_*
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 06:07
Guest_Ashley Foster_*
No More DLC/Game content purchase before we get another ending DLC !!!
#2663
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 06:20
I didn't believe it. Whatever, I'm done with BioWare. I had hoped EA's greed just forced BioWare to release the real ending as DLC but it's obvious now that BioWare just wanted to slap us all in the face.
The fact that any of this was given a green light is just sad.
#2664
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 06:28
#2665
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 06:39
#2666
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 01:17
#2667
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:02
#2668
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:14
Darkwulfjj wrote...
I just don't get how BIoware went from a great company with Mass Effect 2 (that wasn't that long ago) to this horror of ending, how the hell did no one at Bioware say something that the fans might not like this ending?
I agree... i don't understand how this made it through. I'm going to guess that Caseyis surrounded by a bunch of yes-men .. who basically have no talent and who's livelihoods depend on telling them what they want to hear .. so when he came up with this idea...nobody questioned him.
#2669
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 05:41
#2670
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:06
#2671
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 07:14
We had a VERY RIDICULOUS LOOKING boss in ME2, but was also much fun to fight with.
So why can't we have a fight against Harbinger the old long enemy? Even if it's something in the mind of Shep, the likes of Dead Space 2. I agree that the Illusive Man fight was predictable, but so would have been Harbinger's and everyone wanted to bring that ****er down :/
You -DON'T- kill a game for the sake of being artistic, much less for the sake of story-telling (if it was a choice of story-telling, it was a poor terrible choice, mind you.)
#2672
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 08:02
#2673
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 11:03
#2674
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 12:34
#2675
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 02:09
Also i have read many fans to demand an other ending, they are right but also they aren't.You can't and you shouldn't ask a creator to chance their work to be in your liking.I could write forever about that but i will simple say it's their work.
Also about Bioware don't hide about your mistakes in this game behind the word ART. In game industry there isn't Your art but Ours art, the art you create from our money to be entertaining and pleasurable for us. If you want to be artistic just go to Japan or Greece or whever you want, to some small gaming companies with terrible 3d engines and equipment but with great fantasy and a purpose to make the game they don't care about sales they want to make the game and that is ART in game industry.
To all angry fans one advise, use piracy as i did and i will continue to do.Download the game play it and if you like it then buy it if you don't like don't buy it but write a review why you don't like it and send it to the company your opinion and your money have power.I have downloaded me1, me2, me3, dragon age origins and awaikening and dragon age 2 bioware' games.I love me1, me2, dragon age orings and awaikening so i bought them for pc.After i got a ps3 so i bought me2 and i will buy dragon age ultimate edition.Also i bought for ps3 me3 because i enjoy the game dispite the crapy ending.I didn't bought dragon age 2 because it was an epic fail and i didn't like it.
After all those post with anger and hate about Bioware from her fanbase don't expept her to care about you after you purchase the game.You gave them your money if you have a problem they don't care, you will say i will not buy anything from you anymore and they will anser i don't care there is also the next generation of new gamers we will make money from them (just look Blizzard with WoW).
If anyone from Bioware read my post i just have to say that i await an apology to the mass effect fanbase for the mass effect 3.I don't support the change in the ending as i said it's your work/art but don't forget from where the money came.I enjoy mass effect 3 but not the ending it was, just pick any reason from previous posts and i grade mass effect 3 6/10 (fix the bugs before you release any game).If you want your fans back when you will release dlcs for me3 just don't ask money, give them free as an apology.If you don't just look at the sales.Also to dragon age fans before you buy dragon age 3 use my advise about piracy.





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