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[xeNNN]

FOX216BC wrote...

SHEPARD'S DAY

oh **** yes. 

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musically holding the line FTW

[Kilshrek]

2484Stryker wrote...

I'm probably alone in this (or not), but it seems to me that most of the stuff they cut out...I actually LIKED...

Anderson's final dialogue with Shepard included...

Don't think anyone disliked Anderson's cut dialogue.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Someone wanna tell me why indoctrination is off the table?

All I see is an old piece of paper with bad handwriting on it.

[Thornquist]

Lets atleast wait and see how they respond to the feedback. Like it or not, Casey Hudson's team have proven themselves very good at taking care of their fans.

Maybe they should have made the ending better, so what? They made a mistake. We all do.

Its how they respond that is important.

I have faith.

[xAmilli0n]

SirCroft wrote...

"Lots of speculation from everyone"

Apparently this speaks volumes, doesn't it?

My main issue is that it contradicts the definitive ending that was advertised.  But as I've said before, I was pretty much expecting this.

[Giantdeathrobot]

What. The...

I actually gave them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe there's more in store. Maybe it was last-minute, I don't know.

But this? ''Lots of speculations for everyone''? THAT'S how they wanted to end a three game, 100 hours long franchise supposedly based on choice and CONSEQUENCES for the player? They just, word for word, tossed aside everything that made Mass Effect what it was. The God-Child was suposed to make at least some sense... and they discard that, leaving us only determinist drivel easily refuted but forced by the plot?

The Reapers do exist, and they have indoctrinated the ME team. This is the only possible explanation.

[mscotch]

Malanek999 wrote...

How can so many people in this thread say that this proves the indoctrination theory false when it specifically says...

And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's movement and fall under full reaper control. (This sequence was dropped because the gaemplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement alongside dialogue choices).

They were actively experimenting with how they could implement shepard being indoctrinated. This means it is in the plot and Shepard is indeed indoctrinated!!! The question was just how to implement it. IMO they wanted to trick the player because indoctrination is supposed to be subversive rather than wrench control away. So the player still has control (or the illusion of) of Sheps movement etc. The only question in my mind is whether they have already written the rest of the ending or not.

I hope this is true. The responses on twitter seem to indicate that they have something planned. If they don't, it'll definitely be the most disappointing ending of any video game I've ever played and ruin any replay value of the series. 

[ArcanistLibram]

Smeffects wrote...

Lots of people still in denial with the hold the line thing lol. Eventually youll get to the conclusion that this is the real ending, whenever its terrible or not. The fact is, what ever we say wont change the ending, they wont change the ending, there is no other ending.

You cant get them to change their story, it was never your story. It was like a book where you chose your path. You chose your path you dont write the story yourself, ending included. You didnt like it, go sell it back and never buy bioware products again. The story are their artwork, the end of it sucked, they got to stand by what they done. Petition to change movies ending dont work, to change books ending dont work, to change video game ending wont work either.

Mass Effect was never a story. Mass Effect is a game.

[MzAdventure]

TheRisenStar wrote...

It's actually good that we know this now. Indoc. Theory was just salt-water, hastily gulped down in the hope of staving of death by dehydration.

Now you know the true nature of this, and as a consumer, you can deal with the producer on equal terms without the ridiculous, coy, non-answers.

Fight for a retcon and a better ending. No choice now.

THIS!!!

[Salyut]

squee365 wrote...


Couldn't resist.

This is awesome.
What sort of argument is 'too video-gamey'. That's like being against books using chapters because it's 'too bookish'.

[Zyrious]

Malanek999 wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

How can so many people in this thread say that this proves the indoctrination theory false when it specifically says...

And even in November the gameplay team was still experimenting with an endgame sequence where players would suddenly lose control of Shepard's movement and fall under full reaper control. (This sequence was dropped because the gaemplay mechanic proved too troublesome to implement alongside dialogue choices).

They were actively experimenting with how they could implement shepard being indoctrinated. This means it is in the plot and Shepard is indeed indoctrinated!!! The question was just how to implement it. IMO they wanted to trick the player because indoctrination is supposed to be subversive rather than wrench control away. So the player still has control (or the illusion of) of Sheps movement etc. The only question in my mind is whether they have already written the rest of the ending or not.

People are certainly right to be skeptical, but I'm with you.  It seems suspcious.

It's the word "prove" that is important. I am convinced with the indoctrination theory, but fully acknowledge it hasn't been "proved". But likewise there is no way it has been disproved. Proof is a strong word.

Go back to the front of the thread. We've learned A) Starchild is a real character made intentionally the ending was made as the ending and actually intended to conclude the story C) NO POST-END DLC IS INTENDED

The "Losing control" movement was a sequence, NOT the ending. They dropped it only because of mechanics, thus not critical to the plot. That's it. Grasping..at...straws...

[Sashimi_taco]

GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kloborgg711]

Amazing how it's been exactly one week from finishing, and I was finally starting to really get over it. And then this.

[Valk72]

BW can go to hell! I'll never, ever buy a game produced by these liars!!

[TheRisenStar]

BioWare: The Final Hours -

[Xion66]

Well, the fans were getting more appeased and started to belive Bioware had planned all along to make a dlc ending, this just reminds them and me how Bioware really screwed up.

Hold The LIINE.

[JrSlackin]

Bout sums up my feelings...

[CrimsonHead]

This thread gives me a headache...
Damn you Bioware

[jdgjordan]

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i think i have gone insane but i don't no case i don't have choice in the matter

[Persephone]

Militarized wrote...

Persephone wrote...

ZeroCrewX wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

xeNNN wrote...

ZeroCrewX wrote...

Alright peeps listen up carefuly. This is our chance to win the fight not just hold the line

Someone in charge of the whole movement, get this stuff, and publish it, send it every single person you can. Make sure a website or two get a sniff of it as well. This will turn the tide in our favor 100%.

USE IT.

Secondly, I want Mark Walters' head on a plate so I can **** in his mouth. The lead writer along with the project manager ruined the best series ever... You dont deserve nothing from us.

this^

With asinine comments like that in bold, I think people like you don't deserve anything. And it's Mac Walters - if you're going to be uncivil and flip out like that because you're upset about the endings, at least you can get his name right.

Did I mention your name anywhere? Did I imply I give a crap about what you have to say or think about my reaction to the demolishing of 5 years of effort? No I did/do NOT. 

Im dead serious I want his head.

You need help.

And perspective.

Seriously, people, stop the melodrama.

Don't like the endings? Fine. Throwing tantrums interlaced with necrophilia? BLOODY INSANE!

I took it metaphorically, like this **** should lose his job. I think he should now... people said that was harsh but no, no no no. You lose your job buddy. 

Wow....

More of this entitled nonsense.

Constructive criticism and petitions I can understand and even support.

This however helps NO ONE.

[squee365]

[Legendaryred]

So it all comes down to some, ugh, just very disappointed.

[sorentoft]

CommanderWilliams wrote...

Me: Wake up Bioware
Bioware: Where are we?
Me: Mass Effect 3's ending. It is my life.
Bioware: We need to fix this. Everyone is pissed. We fear for our lives.
Me: You have three choices. The blue path will let you fix everything. Follow up on the Indoctrination theory that your fans created for you. If you take the green path you can ignore everything, lose 80% of your fanbase and eventually die as the company that ****ed up Mass Effect. Or the red path, where you can try to justify your actions, ultimately fail and die as the company that ****ed up Mass Effect.
Bioware: The only reasonable option seems to be the blue one. Why wouldn't we pick that?
Me: The DLC must be free.
Bioware: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Good sir you win a Harbinger-Indoctrination cookie.

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Hold the line everyone. Indoctrination theory gave everyone an excuse to ease up. No backing down.