Mass Effect 3: Final Hours [Pictures removed due to Copyright]
#651
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
#652
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
Mev186 wrote...
JrSlackin wrote...
Thing is he left after he was done with SWTOR.
To me the whole situation is no different from the book they recently screwed the pooch on.
I know, But I can dream can't I ?
Kid: Did that all really happen ?
Me: Yep, thats how one of the greatest video game companies destroyed itself.
Kid: Tell me another story about the Bioware...
Me: Ok, one more story...
Except he can't tell another story..... the kid does not have 10 more dollars
#653
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
Kilshrek wrote...
Dohohoho, epic conclusion to Commander Shepard's story.
Taken directly from the ME 3 About page.
Interactive Storytelling
Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience and outcome.
Do you smell that?
At this point I feel like we should demand a refund en masse.
#654
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
No matter how this news makes you feel, PLEASE remember why you joined Retake Mass Effect. Because we felt cheated getting only one ending. We didn't get closure. Everything was left open to speculation. It was a kick in the teeth after hundreds of gameplay hours.
AND THIS HAS NOT CHANGED! I too feel like shelving my Mass Effect series for good and distancing myself from Bioware. But we must continue to stand firm so this will never happen again!
HOLD THE LINE.
#655
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
#656
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
I don't mind the ending BW, I just don't like all the plot holes and the logic fail of the catalyst, oh yeah and the too similar ending no matter what you did is kinda punch in the gut.
Modifié par Wiggly, 15 mars 2012 - 07:55 .
#657
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
#658
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
If we were talking about a novel, the distinction between author and audience would be clear. Same for a movie. Hell, even if this were a JRPG, I wouldn't expect the player to have any actual say in the course the story took.
But my decisions as player control the fates of multiple species! Or at least, it looked that way right up until the end. If they didn't want to make a collaborative narrative, they should have made a movie instead of a video game.
Also, I think they may be confused about the nature of speculation. "Lots of speculation" is a strong reaction, certainly. But the idea that "any strong reaction is a good reaction" is the kind of thing that gets first graders sent to time-out. How this seemed like a good idea to an apparently rational adult I'll never understand.
As with so many others, I honestly just don't understand how Bioware could let this happen. After all the amazing content they've produced over the years, to have their brand end like this would be tragic.
But hey, at least it might generate lots of speculation, right?
#659
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
#660
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
Pride before the fall... they got way too full of themselves...
#661
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:54
This is the kind of mistake a first time novelist makes, not a professional working for a creative business. "Lots of speculation for everyone" is like saying "I can't think of a way to end this satisfactorily. So let's just not."
Usually when you start planning a trilogy, you have an idea of how you intend to end it. Not necessarily the exact details, but you have an idea and you spend your whole series building on it. This seems to suggest that there never was a plan on how to end it until ME3 went into production... I can only hope that's not the case. Because if it is, wow. Just wow.
I'm just really disappointed right now that a) this is how they thought to end it and
Any Hollywood script supervisor, producer, director, or script developer would tell you that. And they would point to such things as the Matrix as precisely an example why this fails.
On the note of the first Matrix - that has a satisfying final battle and ends on a positive note that resolves the immediate story and leaves an opening because it was planned to be part of an ongoing franchise but at the time they didn't know if they would get funding for more films.
ME3 is not in the same position. It's the culminating ending of THREE stories and is meant to end not just the immediate story, but the entire adventure from ME 1 through to 3. You can't have the same kind of ending because you have very different narrative obligations.
*shakes head in disbelief*
#662
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
I mean seriously the ending to a triology spanning 5 years is based on a doodle?
And the fans do not want answers to the lore that's just..slapping everyone who played the previous games in the face. And these cutscenes were cut because they were too long? (not to mention that they suck with the exception for Andersons conversation, that one was awesome)
And when planning the plot Thane is nowhere to bee seen.. Meaning it was just inserted late in the production (I could be wrong but that's my take on the plot flowchart)
All of this is just insulting to the fanbase.
Modifié par Emeraldfern, 15 mars 2012 - 07:59 .
#663
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
The "lets keep the conversation "High level"" part is really incredible... it's as I thought, an ending conceived by someone who wanted to sound smart... and failed miserably.
#664
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
#665
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
#666
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
We're being played.
And I don't think the "end" was ever meant to be THE END.
#667
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
To sum up : No ending fixed, no money wasted.
#668
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
This is pathetic BioWare! You screwed over tens of thousands of your fans and botched the best damn trilogy in gaming history with a 20 minute nonsensical, incoherent mess of an ending. Which you flat out lied to us about in the first place.
Own up to it and give us an honest answer or fix it with all the good graces you have left.
Eitherway this won't have a happy ending.
Modifié par Spaz85, 15 mars 2012 - 09:19 .
#669
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
Zulmoka531 wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Mac, your 'lots of speculation' makes Ron Moore's 'it's the characters, stupid' shower vision start to appear genuinely insightful.
Just got back from trading in one of my two copies. I bought The Witcher 2; should be OK. First copy will remain here for a few weeks as I watch BioWare's reaction and gauge their willingness to fix this colossal mistake of theirs.
Regardless, I won't be picking up TOR as I had planned on doing this weekend and if I do decide to try out Dragon Age I won't be supporting the company with a purchase.
I'm actually impressed Jeff. If they got under the skin of someone as level headed as you...
He actually didn't hate the endings. That's the crazy part.
#670
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
#671
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
#672
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
I think I find a new route of thinking and understanding and then BAM in the face.
GRRRRR
#673
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
CDRSkyShepard wrote...
VonVerrikan wrote...
I don't care what you planned, Bioware. Fix it.
This.
Win
#674
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:55
Enjoy yourselves contemplating that.
#675
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 07:56
ahahahahh thats what I was thinking playing last earth sequence and ending, where role playing was ****ed up ! What is this ?!Katosu wrote...
Brahlis wrote...
Certain people really should lose their jobs over this.
I can agree with this completely. The lead witer should be fired and never given a job in an RPG again.
Let him write stories for the next Call of Duty or something.





Retour en haut





