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[Eyeshield21]

Giskler wrote...

Hopes crushed. They actually thought this godchild thing was a good idea.

I know, right? I wouldn't have minded if it was indoctrination, a lot better than a derpy starchild who contradicts itself, synthetics and organics can't make peace, I just did with the Geth and Quarians.

[wright1978]

I'm staggered that the ending of the game came down to the lead writer scribbling down some ideas at the last minute on the equivalent of a back of a cigarette packet. Seems absolutely clear they just completely ran out of ideas and panicked and ergo we were left with the truly appalling, plothole ridden railroaded endings in the game.

[gimzod76]

god they thought this was a good idea? hope for a better ending keeps fading by the seconds.

[Sywen]

wow just lost all faith in them.

[Lankist]

tamperous wrote...

And they think providing an app that shows their incompetence and lack of connection to their audience is a good thing to provide fans?

Logical failure... but I suppose for the people that designed that ending its actually par.

Communication is a good thing. You cannot say they are disconnected *because* they are open to their fans. Open doors means a lot, regardless of how it turns out.

Edited by Lankist, 15 March 2012 - 06:46 PM.

[trembli0s]

Wow.

Words fail. Literally nobody on the staff had the balls to say, "Uh what?"

[JrSlackin]

So they wanted to make a memorable ending...

What the same way ET the game was remembered?

[CommanderWilliams]

I still believe.
Hold the line.

[BigBubbaBacon]

Shadow-Novus wrote...

Casey on the End Boss
We had the final fight with the Illusive man in the game, but it just felt very Video Gamey. It didnt fit in with the themes. And really, is there a point of the end boss if only for the sake of an end boss?

It just felt...video gamey?? THIS IS A VIDEO GAME!!!!

I'm sorry that logic just baffles me.
And an end boss for the sake of an end boss is better than no end boss at all. Come on, that wasn't something that needed to be "fixed"

I don't see how "themes" factors in when the current ending doesn't seem to do any better...

Actually, the lack of an "end" boss is one of the things that I was MASSIVELY impressed with about this game. I think for video games to go anywhere they have to begin breaking away from the tried-and-true formulas of the past -- "final" bosses being one of them.

[anlk92]

So they removed a much needed investigation option because they thought the details were unnecessary; they removed a cutscene of squadmates dying and replaced it with teleportation to Normandy; they saw a stock photo and thought "Yep, that's Tali"... and "lots of speculation from everyone"...

I flipped some tables.

Also from what I understand they weren't commenting on the endings so that Geoff Keighley could get his $2.99. I really don't know what to say anymore Bioware.

[Lankist]

trembli0s wrote...

Wow.

Words fail. Literally nobody on the staff had the balls to say, "Uh what?"

I would venture to guess that it was one of those ideas that seemed alright before it was realized, and by that time it was way too late. It's really easy to mistake to say "well it's bad now, but I'm sure it'll be better once we finish working on it."

Edited by Lankist, 15 March 2012 - 06:47 PM.

[Dracotamer]

Casey's quotes shatter hope for a proper ending.

[izmirtheastarach]

Well, that's about it for me. They chose to end the game vaguely to create speculation. I truly hope they understand that what they've actually done is jettison a decent portion of their fanbase off into space. All this information does is make me sick, so I'm going to have to stop paying attention now.

Sorry Bioware, but if you have so little respect for your fans, I don't think I want to be one anymore.

Edited by izmirtheastarach, 15 March 2012 - 06:47 PM.

[MzAdventure]

kunzite wrote...

I went onto my Ipad to grab this app. Then I saw the $2.99 price tag. Nope. Sorry. Bioware hasnt regained access to my wallet yet. And from what I'm seeing posted in this thread, I'm not feeling wrong.

This.

[Shadow-Novus]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Shadow-Novus wrote...

It just felt...video gamey?? THIS IS A VIDEO GAME!!!!

I'm sorry that logic just baffles me.
And an end boss for the sake of an end boss is better than no end boss at all. Come on, that wasn't something that needed to be "fixed"

I don't see how "themes" factors in when the current ending doesn't seem to do any better...

No, it's really not.

BigBubbaBacon wrote...

Actually, the lack of an "end" boss is one of the things that I was MASSIVELY impressed with about this game. I think for video games to go anywhere they have to begin breaking away from the tried-and-true formulas of the past -- "final" bosses being one of them.

*shrug* Maybe I just enjoy final bosses no matter what. But that's just me

Edited by Shadow-Novus, 15 March 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[turian_rage]

HOLD... THE... LINE

[ABCoLD]

Flashlegend wrote...

Well there you have it folks. They really are this incompetent.

[Lawliet89]

Q: What did you think of the ending? Is this addressed in the story?
A: I've seen the uproar online about the ending and understand the fan perspective. Personally I respect the creative choices the team made and had no problems with how the story ended -- it made you feel something, even if that feeling was uncomfortable.

The Final Hours addresses the challenges BioWare faces in writing a story with defined parameters in a game environment where players want to feel like they have choice. Ultimately your opinion on the ending will depend on who you see as the "author" of Mass Effect's story -- BioWare or the player.

The ending of the game is discussed in the App and there are some notes from the team about how they were thinking about the ending. Since this story was completed before the public release of the game, I do not address the fan petitions or reaction. I hope to update the story with a new chapter on this down the road.

From his website: http://www.me3finalhours.com/

[fish of doom]

oh my.

[Endersgone]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Well, that's about it for me. They chose to end the game vaguely to create speculation. I truly hope they understand that what they've actually done is jettison a decent portion of their fanbase off into space. All this information does is make me sick, so I'm going to have to stop paying attention now.

Sorry Bioware, but if you have so little respects for your fans, I don't think I want to be one anymore.

Unfortunate, but true... had my heart broken for the last time.

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I choked and vomited a little.

ericjdev wrote...

Wow, it was just bad writing. They actually did with intent publish that ultra crappy ending.

It's like the PTSD solider from the game, I keep getting flashbacks to the ending.

Edited by PKchu, 15 March 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[RazorrX]

o.O They actually thought that the ending was a good one? I had been hoping that the ending was a dream so that they could wow us with an expansion or DLC that picked up where it ended, but they actually thought it was a good ending?

My mind is boggled.

[kunzite]

BigBubbaBacon wrote...

Shadow-Novus wrote...

Casey on the End Boss
We had the final fight with the Illusive man in the game, but it just felt very Video Gamey. It didnt fit in with the themes. And really, is there a point of the end boss if only for the sake of an end boss?

It just felt...video gamey?? THIS IS A VIDEO GAME!!!!

I'm sorry that logic just baffles me.
And an end boss for the sake of an end boss is better than no end boss at all. Come on, that wasn't something that needed to be "fixed"

I don't see how "themes" factors in when the current ending doesn't seem to do any better...

Actually, the lack of an "end" boss is one of the things that I was MASSIVELY impressed with about this game. I think for video games to go anywhere they have to begin breaking away from the tried-and-true formulas of the past -- "final" bosses being one of them.

I have to agree with this. I didnt need an end boss to the game. The fact that I am about to sacrifice myself to save millions, if not trillions, of beings is way better than defeating any boss.

[Stakis]

i just love seing the word " choice " in those private notes , lol...

[tamperous]

So this pretty much confirms that my theory that the ME3 team became a bunch of self-worshiping, pretentious art-snobs.

Get over yourselves Bioware, you make videogames for consumers. Not one more nickel for these poseurs and their delusions of grandeur.

Edited by tamperous, 15 March 2012 - 06:53 PM.