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[WujekRada]

HOLD THE LINE!

[shoshbear]

Wait, wait, wait. If Bioware has absolutely no intentions of changing the ending then why did they tweet a while back that they were going to "hold on to their saves"? I'm in a glass cage of emotion!!!

[Capeo]

Lethania wrote...

oh and: http://28.media.tumb...9s8cbo2_500.png

Holy crap!  That just made me laugh out loud like and idiot in the middle of my office.  People are staring...

[DiebytheSword]

I found the endings serviceable, minus Joker's wild ride that made zero sense in the context of what came of your last conversation with him and what his standing orders were. There is no room for speculation there, you bothered to show that. Now you need to explain it.

And it goes without saying, post pre-order pre-orders cancelled until further notice.

[Smeffects]

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Smeffects wrote...

Lots of people still in denial with the hold the line thing lol. Eventually youll get to the conclusion that this is the real ending, whenever its terrible or not. The fact is, what ever we say wont change the ending, they wont change the ending, there is no other ending.

You cant get them to change their story, it was never your story. It was like a book where you chose your path. You chose your path you dont write the story yourself, ending included. You didnt like it, go sell it back and never buy bioware products again. The story are their artwork, the end of it sucked, they got to stand by what they done. Petition to change movies ending dont work, to change books ending dont work, to change video game ending wont work either.

nope it worked with movie version of Da Vinci Code where critics influenced and let Dan Brown correct some important things in the movie.

It worked also for example with The Abyss where huge cuts, was made by producers, noted holes by fans, and years later director buy rights and released an integral versions. It work also on some DVD or Blu-Ray productions when they place alternate ending for this reason too !!!

It sounds crappy and stupid, wipe out interaction where was most born it: RPG computer games ! You will just make angry your PAYING CUSTOMERS !!

It worked because those were already written story. They were changed to reflect the original story,  with footage that already existed. This ending is the original mass effect ending. No retcon happened to make it a video game, it was just bad period. Hell this app is a testement to that very fact. Even with the delete scene this ending is still idiotic, with plotholes, space magic. You cant ask them to go back to the original ending, this is the original ending.

It wont be changed just stop trying. It would be stupid to cange now ayway. You got your alternete ending they are in that app, they still sucked. They had no idea how to end it. Just stop supporting this **** hole of a company and you life will be easier from now on. Dont be sad or in denial because you want this cheap money invesment not to be a waste. It was a waste and its ok, in your life time it will be meaningless. Just let it go and go play other video games or just do something else. You will all forget this mess soon enough.

Modifié par Smeffects, 15 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[Iakus]

CptData wrote...

iakus wrote...

So wait, this wasn't a rushed or incomplete ending? People thought this really was a good idea? That this was the way for characters built up for five years should go out?

::headdesk::

The funny part is: I'm not mad.
Not even a bit.

I'm calm.

And laughing.

Because we're just doing what BW wanted. They wanted to give us a huge puzzle, maybe one of the biggest of gaming history. I don't feel offended or something - just ... dunno.
No one says "indoctrination theory is wrong" or "Shepard is not dreaming the finale" ... no one says that.
And I can live with that, since it gives us hope we're still right. It simply does mean BW didn't tell us the truth today, but it doesn't mean they won't do it tomorrow.

So ... no need for being upset for me.

Puzzles have answers.  Here they  apparantly just threw a  lot of junk at us and said "Come up with something on your own"  They didn't even try, it seems.

I guess from a certain point of view that makes "wildly divergent endings" a legitimate claim, as everyone has to headcannon their own...

Yes, I'm upset.  Because Bioware used to be better than this.  I mourn for what they used to be.  This ending makes DA2's look like creative genius in comparison.

[wickeT_42]

Just look at the flowchart in those pictures. you can make out a grey line that represents action/tension in the story.

It maxes out at the end of the story...anyone who knows how a story is written knows that the resolution is the crucial part of an ending, which is where the narrative brings the viewer/reader down from this point.

http://www.tofp.org/images/narrarc.gif

That entire resolution section is just absent from your story, BioWare.

Kid stuff.

[Bradeh]

HAHAHA. R.I.P BioWare. You were once great.

[Faded-Myth]

"LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE".

When I read this, I literally think of someone in front of a desk in the dead of night, deadline looming, scratching their head as they try to piece together some kind of ending. And then an epipheny hits.
Speculation for everyone.

Of course! It's genius! Why worry too hard about actually writing anything when people can enjoy filling in the blanks themselves!

Last I heard, Bioware was a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure, not Connect-The-Dots. At least, that's what I thought, until I realized they're actually an Etch A Sketch. "This ending displeases me." *Shakes furiously*

Modifié par Faded-Myth, 15 mars 2012 - 08:07 .

[nomoredruggs]

PKchu wrote...

" Ultimately your opinion on the ending will depend on who you see as the "author" of Mass Effect's story -- BioWare or the player."

Yes. They are both the authors. It's up to Bioware to give the freedom of the player choice within the constraint of their development box. They failed.

[Militarized]

You know... this proves it wasn't EAs fault. I wonder if the EA executives are PISSED at them as well now.

SOmeones getting fired (Casey/Marc) I hope.

[TitchIX]

How pissed would people be if they ended Star Wars with some semi-philosophical, plot hole ridden bull**** instead of a very satisfying end battle?

[CatalystJones]

"But Gollum, dancing like a mad thing, help aloft the ring, a finger still thrust within its circle and lots of speculation for everyone."

The End.

[Endersgone]

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I feel so much better after cancelling SWTOR. There is no coming back from this now BioWare.

Saying bye to my SWTOR sub as well.  Maybe I'll change my mind if this gets fixed...but that's looking pretty unlikely at this point.

[Walrusninja]

I'm surprised EA havn't stepped in with their Hammer of Great Justice and started clobbering Bioware for this. They've done MASSIVE damage to their rep and EA's and this is only the beginning, it's getting worse by the day. They've also done HUGE damage to SWTOR, EA's goldmine/Activision challenger, you know, that little title that had the biggest development budget of all time?. Forbes really got it right.

Modifié par Walrusninja, 15 mars 2012 - 08:06 .

[GBGriffin]

shoshbear wrote...

Wait, wait, wait. If Bioware has absolutely no intentions of changing the ending then why did they tweet a while back that they were going to "hold on to their saves"? I'm in a glass cage of emotion!!!

Because it was PR talk and, as we can see, they feel proud of their work.

So...yeah. They can fix this even if it wasn't in their plan, but at least know we know what the plan was.


And it was, and continues to be, ****ing awful.

[Rolling Flame]

 It really makes me mad that all the advertising and interviews claimed that this would be the definitive end of the trilogy, and the best they come up with is lots of speculation?!

BioWare, we didn't want any more mystery! We wanted things set in stone! We wanted to see that everything we did mattered! Not this! 

[eoinnx03]

''Lots of speculation'' ''Polarizing''

LOOK AT THE POLLS AND STOP TALKING OUT YOUR ASS. If it was 60:40 yes maybe that's polarizing. 90:10 is not.

Modifié par eoinnx03, 15 mars 2012 - 08:06 .

[Darth Asriel]

To The Fleet: I share your pain and frustration over this disheartening news. It is indeed a sad day for fans. But we must not give in to despair. Shepard and our friends in the ME universe deserve better than this filth!!! Shepard would not accept this, despite what Casey believes/wrote. We kno better. We are Shepard, each and everyone of us. We made the choice to save/kill the council. We made the tough call on Virmire. And we must once again pick ourselves up out of the dirt, and fight. Our stories cannot, must not end like this.

I AM COMMANDER SHEPARD AND I WILL HOLD THE LINE!!!!

[GorrilaKing]

This is either betrayal or a sudden lapse into incompetence on a scale hitherto unknown to this company. What a shame. Bioware just butchered its own standards.

[Darman]

Dammit don't get influenced by this and HOLD THE LINE!

[Sesshaku]

Necroscope wrote...

There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of men for this treachery.

This deserved the video.

[link removed]



A COMPANY SHOULD KNOW BETTER....AOURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHH

Our business is with the rEApers tonight. With a nuke and guns.

Come come my friends, the fleets are going to war....it is likely that we go to our doom....the last march of Bioware Fans.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 15 mars 2012 - 09:35 .

[FeralEwok]

Your reach exceeded your grasp.

Instead of pulling back, you went full throtal with this brilliant new idea of how to end the series.

This is the result.

Stick to what you know and what you're fans are wanting.

[kunzite]

And STILL there is no response from Bioware. This company really doesnt give two craps what its customers are thinking about them, does it? It defies logic, just like the starchild's existence.

[Tallyen]

English football phrase comes to mind, often shouted at terribad teams. "You'll never play here again!".

You'll never sell a game again BioWare.