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#1226
JusticeSpeaks

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Mr Prestly, no offense, but you really are in the worst possible position right now. Your company is doing something, whether it be the ending or what you have planned in the future, and that certain thing is making all of us displeased. You must relaize that a time will come when you will be forced to speak for the things we ask, just remember that silence is only going to make things worse. My sincerest condolences.

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The Angry One wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, the forums are now unlocked and people can post again.

TO BE CLEAR:
The app in question was created by Geoff Keighley of Gametrailers. It was made from materials he collected, with support from BioWare, in the weeks before Mass Effect 3 is launched. This app is NOT BioWare's "official response about the endings of the game", or similar. We will be addressing the endings in the future as I have indicated in this thread.

You are welcome to discuss this app and it's content, but please foolow the site rules when you post. We do not allow swearing, fighting or abuse of staff, moderators or our company.



:devil:





Mr. Priestly. I understand that this isn't your fault and that you're burdened with handling many upset fans but I must point out that we're not upset over who made the app, or how it was made.
We know it's not an "official response."

But what this app tells us is that BioWare planned these endings all along, that they always meant to break their promises, that they thought it was a good idea to take away all of our choice in the ending and leave us with some nonsensical mess.

It takes away our hope, and shows that any official response will be along the lines of "It's what we intended, deal with it.". That is why we're upset.



This

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Gexora wrote...

I think the line "you [loyal fans who grew to love this setting and characters] don't need answers to mass effect universe" just killed my hope in Bioware completely


That and "LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE" when we were promised closure.

#1229
Spitfiremk87

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Whats puzzling is how the Mass Effect facebook page is advertising the app here: https://www.facebook.com/masseffect

Why would you want to broadcast this?

Ever since this hit, its like a bomb went off on this forum.

#1230
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ChampDude wrote...

Erethrian wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, the forums are now unlocked and people can post again.

TO BE CLEAR:
The app in question was created by Geoff Keighley of Gametrailers. It was made from materials he collected, with support from BioWare, in the weeks before Mass Effect 3 is launched. This app is NOT BioWare's "official response about the endings of the game", or similar. We will be addressing the endings in the future as I have indicated in this thread.

You are welcome to discuss this app and it's content, but please follow the site rules when you post. We do not allow swearing, fighting or abuse of staff, moderators or our company.



:devil:





Hope again anyone? :D :P


It's all we've got at this point


I dont think so, that ship sailed for me.
Think about it, if they had all this time to make up and ending - and somehow changed it, after Geoff got this data.
Well....agian, if this ending is the product of months of planning....oh god, I cant go on.

It hurts to much :/

#1231
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I don't think anyone has a right to be self-righteously angry at Hudson and Walters for simply making some bad choices. Everyone makes mistakes.

Be sad, be dissapointed, give good criticism for them if they do decide to go back and revise the ending, but raging at people who gave something an honest try is really bad form, regardless of whether they failed.

#1232
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The Angry One wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, the forums are now unlocked and people can post again.

TO BE CLEAR:
The app in question was created by Geoff Keighley of Gametrailers. It was made from materials he collected, with support from BioWare, in the weeks before Mass Effect 3 is launched. This app is NOT BioWare's "official response about the endings of the game", or similar. We will be addressing the endings in the future as I have indicated in this thread.

You are welcome to discuss this app and it's content, but please foolow the site rules when you post. We do not allow swearing, fighting or abuse of staff, moderators or our company.



:devil:





Mr. Priestly. I understand that this isn't your fault and that you're burdened with handling many upset fans but I must point out that we're not upset over who made the app, or how it was made.
We know it's not an "official response."

But what this app tells us is that BioWare planned these endings all along, that they always meant to break their promises, that they thought it was a good idea to take away all of our choice in the ending and leave us with some nonsensical mess.

It takes away our hope, and shows that any official response will be along the lines of "It's what we intended, deal with it.". That is why we're upset.


I am quoting this post because it needs to be seen. This is so important, and at least in this case, it seems to be being missed. "It's not the app, its what it means!"

#1233
The Angry One

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Xenier wrote...

I'm just happy that Chris said it's not bioware's stance on the ending, I still have hope!


He said it's not their official stance because they haven't made one yet.
But what do you expect to happen? This is the ending they intended. There's no real ending coming. At worst they'll say deal with it. At best they'll make a half-hearted apology.

But this changes nothing. The endings remain. Mass Effect is lost.

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i have zero faith left in bioware, I'm going to hold out hope until we get an official statement and if it's anything other then an ending fix i'm packing it up and trading the games in. Bioware has been quiet to long with this. the longer they wait the more damage they will do to their rep.

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Xenier wrote...

I'm just happy that Chris said it's not bioware's stance on the ending, I still have hope!


Where was this said?
I'm on the verge of giving up.  I don't do that.
Show me this quote from Chris,
give me back some hope.

#1236
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Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.

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Damage control must be in pain today. I loved Bioware, I've stuck with you all through everything. I even enjoyed DA2 a ton, but this end is unforgivable if not fixed. Looks like the age of Bioware storytelling may possibly be drawing to a close. Thank you for all you've given us.

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Xenier wrote...

I'm just happy that Chris said it's not bioware's stance on the ending, I still have hope!


The fact that they dont support the app doesnt chance a bloody thing about its contents. The contents within are still the ACTUAL notes of Biowares writers about the ending.

#1239
MattFini

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So, um, how about that indoctrination theory? :)

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clonedoriginzero

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how on earth do you purposely make an ending bad, could they not see how stupid that is? i mean i just dont understand it. why?

WHY?

#1241
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Well, thanks for ruining not only Mass Effect 3 but the whole series, great work!
At least you have achieved your goal, this ending WILL be remembered, but certainly not for the reasons you wanted.

Do you know who John Romero is? I hope you share his fate...

#1242
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I don't think I've ever seen a gaming company shoot themselves in the foot as much as Bioware has. In the past few years their games have dropped in quality: DA2, SWTOR, (I subbed for 2 months, hit Battle Master on my Jedi Shadow named Zera on the Proph of the Five server, and subbed because end game pvp is a damn joke) and now the ME3 ending. Up till the ending the game was f'in amazing. I cannot support this company anymore, they have to learn that if they want my money they have to release quality content. That was not done in SWTOR from a pvp perspective and it surely wasn't done in ME3's ending.

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aimlessgun wrote...

I don't think anyone has a right to be self-righteously angry at Hudson and Walters for simply making some bad choices. Everyone makes mistakes.

Be sad, be dissapointed, give good criticism for them if they do decide to go back and revise the ending, but raging at people who gave something an honest try is really bad form, regardless of whether they failed.


+1

Everyone makes mistakes. This just happens to be a big one. Lets keep it civil and organized and make sure Bioware know what we want(Which they obviously do).

#1244
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I would like to add that the Bioware responses on twitter caused a lot of people to have hope that something might be changed or done. This has shown that we may have just been strung along in attempts to mitigate the PR fallout the company is experiencing.

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Xenier wrote...

I'm just happy that Chris said it's not bioware's stance on the ending, I still have hope!


He said no such thing.  He just said they didn't release the app not that what is in it is lies.  The interviews, cut scenes and images are real.

#1246
eoinnx03

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This is funny http://i.imgur.com/stzbj.jpg

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The Angry One

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MattFini wrote...

So, um, how about that indoctrination theory? :)


Ashes like Earth after it was taken back to the stone age.

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LightweightJustice wrote...

Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.

What? That doesn't make any s-- Ohh...


Ohhhhhhh... :mellow:

#1249
E5150_Julian

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Don't give up we hold the LINE

#1250
Coder4Hire

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I thought the "I must kill everyone to save everyone" endings/plots were just a Japanese thing.
Although, they're not crazy enough to go through with it, it's just the villains' driving force; although even that is still weak.

Examples, Final Fantasy XIII's plot, Resident Evil 5's plot, Naruto, etc.

It's just a theme I've noticed over the last few years.

You can all yell at me now.