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[Femmefatality07]

eoinnx03 wrote...

This is funny http://i.imgur.com/stzbj.jpg

Dat sexy sniper from the trailer. <3

[CrazyRah]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Spitfiremk87 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

I don't think anyone has a right to be self-righteously angry at Hudson and Walters for simply making some bad choices. Everyone makes mistakes.

Be sad, be dissapointed, give good criticism for them if they do decide to go back and revise the ending, but raging at people who gave something an honest try is really bad form, regardless of whether they failed.

+1

Everyone makes mistakes. This just happens to be a big one. Lets keep it civil and organized and make sure Bioware know what we want(Which they obviously do).

Actually I think we're more mad that we were knowingly LIED to. How can you, in good conscious, go out and tell all your fans that they're going to get closure and all the important questions will be answered... and then go back and decide that speculation is the most important thing and that the fans "don't need to know" anything. That's what gets me more than sad, it gets me ticked.

Yeah that's what get to me the most, that they actually did that to us.

[Al-Qiliqi]

Thi guy finished the game

www.youtube.com/watch

[GreenSoda]

"Lots of speculation for everyone"

That line. That effing line. I'm thinking hard for a response to that, but I just can't fathom anything that wouldn't get me banned on this forum. FFFFFfffff....

[Rykoth]

I'm feeling disgusted. But not by Bioware. By the people who think Bioware owes anyone anything. By the people who think insider discussions are indicative of how they feel towards the fans. By the people who think Bioware set out to intentionally ruin peoples' experiences.

That's not what happened, and you know it. Stop making excuses, and just accept the fact you don't like the ending, that wasn't intentional, that wasn't malicious, and it wasn't done to screw over anyone.

You don't like it. Fine. But basing all future business off of five minutes is childish.

I'm Holding the Line, for the actual fans who don't believe in crucifying a company over five minutes of ending.

[Baronesa]

The Angry One wrote...

Spitfiremk87 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

I don't think anyone has a right to be self-righteously angry at Hudson and Walters for simply making some bad choices. Everyone makes mistakes.

Be sad, be dissapointed, give good criticism for them if they do decide to go back and revise the ending, but raging at people who gave something an honest try is really bad form, regardless of whether they failed.

+1

Everyone makes mistakes. This just happens to be a big one. Lets keep it civil and organized and make sure Bioware know what we want(Which they obviously do).

No. No. A mistake is Tali's photo. A mistake is having Shep tote around a rifle even if she's not a soldier.
This was a disaster. It destroyed the whole trilogy.

How can someone be so casual about this?
How can someone write the finale of an entire saga and go "alright let's just copy The Matrix" (actually on Walters' notes in so many words!).
I just will never understand why this could happen.

And this +100

Modifié par Baronesa, 15 mars 2012 - 09:31 .

[Nighthunteer]

DiabolicallyRandom wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Ok, the forums are now unlocked and people can post again.

TO BE CLEAR:
The app in question was created by Geoff Keighley of Gametrailers. It was made from materials he collected, with support from BioWare, in the weeks before Mass Effect 3 is launched. This app is NOT BioWare's "official response about the endings of the game", or similar. We will be addressing the endings in the future as I have indicated in this thread.

You are welcome to discuss this app and it's content, but please foolow the site rules when you post. We do not allow swearing, fighting or abuse of staff, moderators or our company.

Mr. Priestly. I understand that this isn't your fault and that you're burdened with handling many upset fans but I must point out that we're not upset over who made the app, or how it was made.
We know it's not an "official response."

But what this app tells us is that BioWare planned these endings all along, that they always meant to break their promises, that they thought it was a good idea to take away all of our choice in the ending and leave us with some nonsensical mess.

It takes away our hope, and shows that any official response will be along the lines of "It's what we intended, deal with it.". That is why we're upset.

I am quoting this post because it needs to be seen. This is so important, and at least in this case, it seems to be being missed. "It's not the app, its what it means!"

QFT

[Rhohan66]

Very bad ending. Personally they should have done the final fight on the citiadel, as the reapers came to take control of it. Win there, big evac, fire it off. Cut to earth with the reapers leaving, and then some shots of new transport systems being built, use that to include allot of the characters and what they are doing. Cut to the end with Anderson and his Girl and shepard and his LI sitting on a beach visiting Tali. The end.

There better ending then bioware  came up with.

Modifié par Rhohan66, 15 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[CommanderWilliams]

Honestly even if they fix it, I probably won't buy it (if it is paid), and I darn sure will not be buying DA3. Not only is there a chance for them to screw up again, the way they are handling this is disgraceful.

[Revanmug]

I think it is time to found a new big gaming company with the purpose of destroying smaller gaming company just before they get destroy by the bigger gaming company ala Activision/EA.

Now that I think about...

BIOWARE BE GENIUS!!11! Them StarChild logic be true!1!!

[Giskler]

From the sounds of things in the app, Mac was trying to push for more answers, but Casey shut him down.

[izmirtheastarach]

MRedfield wrote...

Chris, I'd just like to say that although I don't agree with the ending we were given, I love you(and the other community managers, PR people and general cannon fodder) for putting up with this community.

As much as I respect the job that Chris does, it is just that. A job. He's not doing this for fun.

[Trobon18]

The Angry One wrote...

Spitfiremk87 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

I don't think anyone has a right to be self-righteously angry at Hudson and Walters for simply making some bad choices. Everyone makes mistakes.

Be sad, be dissapointed, give good criticism for them if they do decide to go back and revise the ending, but raging at people who gave something an honest try is really bad form, regardless of whether they failed.

+1

Everyone makes mistakes. This just happens to be a big one. Lets keep it civil and organized and make sure Bioware know what we want(Which they obviously do).

No. No. A mistake is Tali's photo. A mistake is having Shep tote around a rifle even if she's not a soldier.
This was a disaster. It destroyed the whole trilogy.

How can someone be so casual about this?
How can someone write the finale of an entire saga and go "alright let's just copy The Matrix" (actually on Walters' notes in so many words!).
I just will never understand why this could happen.

Designers put down things that inspired them in their notes all the time. It's actually an excerise to go through. Kind of like X only Y is a common exercise when trying to think of things for writers at least.

So the whole Matrix comment doesn't really strike me as odd personally.

[inFam0us]

Let me tell you guys a great story.

There was once a team of game producers who made the best games ever, with the best written stories that made you feel emotional and feel connected to every second thing in the game. But then, ladies and gentlemen, Evil Activities (Reapers) came up to them and gave them an offer they couldn't refuse, they got indoctrinated, made them work under pressure just to further their own goals, and Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 got released.

A story with a poor, badly-written ending, just like Mass Effect 3.

[JELLAQTP]

Just realized that we have to pay to see how they did the endings.

[LightweightJustice]

Aedara wrote...

We just want a straight answer, is that too much to ask? A simple yes or no regarding ending dlc that's all.

They can't
Yes = Fail as pros.
No = Greed.

[Bantz]

Ares14916 wrote...

Whatever chance there was of this anger against the endings dissipating I think has officially gone to zero with the revelation of just how cavalier they were in deciding how to end it, despite basically directly contradicting their plans in how they advertised it would end.

Apparently "True Art is Angsty" has to be combined with "True Art is Vague" for this one...

Was there really NO ONE with an ounce of perspective to say "whoa guys bad idea" when it came to this cluster#$(^??

 
agree 100% with this. If the information posted was true then it sounds like they were sitting around one night and said, "well we got a great game but how are we gonna end it?"

Some dude sits there and says"Giant confusion and speculation for all!" 

"ya sounds great lets' just do that. How do we code it?"

*dumps box of crayons on the table* eeny meeny miny moe....

[Bellethiel]

eoinnx03 wrote...

This is funny http://i.imgur.com/stzbj.jpg

Yeah. But at the same time it's really sad how true this is.

[eoinnx03]

This is funny http://i.imgur.com/stzbj.jpg

[haloxx]

not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but did the app creator have to license it from BW?

[Golferguy758]

Loved the game. Ending made me not love any game. And by any game I haven't played any video games in 6 days. Bioware did the one thing I thought would be impossible. Remove my love of video games. That takes some serious talent right there

[DarkSpider88]

While I have not watched the whole app, from the quotes I just want to say:

Speculation and closure are pretty much opposites. In many a interview we were told we would have closure to the story, not more speculation. If closure was not anyone's intended result they should not have said so in the first place.

That being said I would like to say we (the fans) have provided you guys a solution to the controversy with the indoctrination hypothesis. While this may not have been intended goal, BioWare could add it in because so many fans have proved it is a plausible idea.

Thank you if you read this post.

Modifié par DarkSpider88, 15 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

USKnight25 wrote...

So the end is official. And we reject it.

Now do the one smart thing in business and give the consumers what they want.

Or don't and lose your consumers.

X

I will be checking games for who the people are working on it and avoid 
I also deleted Keighly from my DVR but I might add him back if he was just giving info
but actions speak a lot and it's march 15 and there is plenty of time to do something

that's what will trigger my final stance on this game and it's creators. IF it's ending like this or DLC adds to it
giving it a ending fitting this series. 

If this is all we get I will move to another game and spend my money wisely. I will hate not being 100% on achievements for all three games. I can't support just MP maps based on N7 missions.
Gonna take moer to get my praise and there is plenty of time. But it's feeling hopeless

[Uezurii]

nvm.

Modifié par Uezurii, 15 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[Doug M]

lltoon wrote...

I don't think there's much to debate on the contents on the app.
It's pretty clear cut what was going on, that the endings were planned all along and that Bioware had no intention of changing the endings.

So uh... I guess that's it? Since we aren't exactly allowed to voice our disappointment over the contents of the app.

You can voice your disappointment, but do it in a civilized and mature manner.  Smarmy insults, threats, and other juvenile things that some people have posted are entirely unnecessary, and all it does is create noise that Bioware has to filter through in order to get to the rational posts.  It doesn't help anyone.