Modifié par Lethys1, 15 mars 2012 - 10:26 .
Handren wrote...
"Didn`t want it to be video gamey"
"Making a video game"
That's not pretentious. Don`t know what you're talking about at all.
Palidane wrote...
Aurvant wrote...
Apfelweinbrauer wrote...
mrderp27 wrote...
1-blue, 1-green, 1-red, 1-KABOOMTHEWORLDBLOWSUPRANDOMLY
Where is your god now?
Literally spit my drink across the screen from laughing so hard.
I burst out laughing at that for five minutes. Lol.
Epiph1 wrote...
Quick...someone go run to your nearest art gallery/museum and try to get them to frame and display your copy of ME3. Also please post reactions to youtube mmkay?!
/lolling so hard right now
Respectfully? Really? You mean "respectfully" like they treated fans? "Respectfully" like they treated the story itself with a bullcrap, quick, no thought, no logic ending? You EARN respect, you don't DESERVE respect. They did everything they could here to LOSE respect that they had actually previously earned. Respect isn't a permanent condition you know.
atghunter wrote...
Tallrickruush:
At least at this point, I'm pretty sure we're past the first standard corporate counter-moves. Fewer and fewer "attack" articles are appearing against the unhappy fan base and more are at least acknowledging there may be some validity to the complaints (a standard paradigm shift to the center by the media to try and come out on the winning side)
EA knows they have a problem and it's not going away. Now it just comes down to the economic fallout and cost assessment. I'll admit, this is an incredible thing to watch as someone who studied corporate response tactics years ago. The social media power aspect of a situation like this is perhaps unwieldy, fickle, and as unpredictable as a Reaper on Red Bull! But impressive nonetheless!
What I find most fascinating is that groups like Take Back Mass Effect are so quickly organized (before the internet these campaigned had to be created by letter-writing, phones and slow media attention sometimes taking months) that tried-and-true corporate counter-measures are simply outmaneuvered. As an old gamer, I'm in awe of the rapid deployment of market forces the internet in conjunction with 24 hour news cycle allows.
A good recent case study on this and how the tactics play out is Mr. Limbaugh's recent gaffe here in the U.S. After loosing roughly 100 sponsors, he's now on “vacation”.
And you can bet they shut down the boards temporarily because someone just turned this chess game onto the floor. Release a statement deflecting the source and not the content and go back into damage control mode.
Hold The Line
atghunter wrote...
Tallrickruush:
At least at this point, I'm pretty sure we're past the first standard corporate counter-moves. Fewer and fewer "attack" articles are appearing against the unhappy fan base and more are at least acknowledging there may be some validity to the complaints (a standard paradigm shift to the center by the media to try and come out on the winning side)
EA knows they have a problem and it's not going away. Now it just comes down to the economic fallout and cost assessment. I'll admit, this is an incredible thing to watch as someone who studied corporate response tactics years ago. The social media power aspect of a situation like this is perhaps unwieldy, fickle, and as unpredictable as a Reaper on Red Bull! But impressive nonetheless!
What I find most fascinating is that groups like Take Back Mass Effect are so quickly organized (before the internet these campaigned had to be created by letter-writing, phones and slow media attention sometimes taking months) that tried-and-true corporate counter-measures are simply outmaneuvered. As an old gamer, I'm in awe of the rapid deployment of market forces the internet in conjunction with 24 hour news cycle allows.
A good recent case study on this and how the tactics play out is Mr. Limbaugh's recent gaffe here in the U.S. After loosing roughly 100 sponsors, he's now on “vacation”.
And you can bet they shut down the boards temporarily because someone just turned this chess game onto the floor. Release a statement deflecting the source and not the content and go back into damage control mode.
Hold The Line
Rykoth wrote...
It. Is. Just. A. Game.
Modifié par hismastersvoice, 15 mars 2012 - 10:26 .
Esquin wrote...
Bantz wrote...
my only hope i have left is that supposedly these documents and interviews were from awhile ago and that with our new outrage Bioware will rethink their approach. Unlikely i know but it's the only shred of hope we have left
YOu're talking about a group of people who thought that giving us a game with no ending and having no intention of ever creating an ending was a good development move. I wouldn't get too hopefuly there.
This is horrible. How on earth did anyone in that team think that that ending. This ending was good enough? It's sickening to think just how badly they ruined the series.
Modifié par Benrosan, 15 mars 2012 - 10:27 .
Modifié par Totally Not Swaggacide, 15 mars 2012 - 10:27 .
Benrosan wrote...
Though I feel we have the right to ask the devs to deliver on their promises for the ending, (closure, variety, logic, choices matters etc...) we can't start criticizing every artistic decisions they've made simply because we don't like them.
Would I have liked to fight TIM in a massive, epic battle on the Citadel? Sure. Is the current version of the confrontation a bit anti-climactic? Yes. But it also delivers a proper conclusion to the character/ Cerberus plotline and thus BW fulfills its contract, as a storyteller, with the gamer.
Basically, my point is this: There is a fine line between artistic license and artistic responsibility, especially in the storytelling medium. (Something that the gaming media is unable to grasp, somehow). Bioware should have the artistic freedom to mold the mechanics of their game however they see fit, as long as they also uphold their responsibility to the gamer and the integrity of the content.
That dev saying "Lots of speculation for everyone!" is a clear violation of that responsibility, since we were promised the exact opposite.
The railroaded endings full of plotholes also are.
But the details of our final confrontation with TIM are not.
It's a fine, blurry line between the two, but it's definitely there...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
I don't think that's fair. The numbers for the community here are somewhere around 90%. On other sites using other polls, I've never seen them lower then 80%. It's not like this is an isolated reaction. A random sampling of gamers would have shown this pretty easily.
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Rykoth wrote...
It. Is. Just. A. Game.
Area42T wrote...
Epiph1 wrote...
Quick...someone go run to your nearest art gallery/museum and try to get them to frame and display your copy of ME3. Also please post reactions to youtube mmkay?!
/lolling so hard right now
If I had a physical copy, I would.
vigna wrote...
atghunter wrote...
Tallrickruush:
At least at this point, I'm pretty sure we're past the first standard corporate counter-moves. Fewer and fewer "attack" articles are appearing against the unhappy fan base and more are at least acknowledging there may be some validity to the complaints (a standard paradigm shift to the center by the media to try and come out on the winning side)
EA knows they have a problem and it's not going away. Now it just comes down to the economic fallout and cost assessment. I'll admit, this is an incredible thing to watch as someone who studied corporate response tactics years ago. The social media power aspect of a situation like this is perhaps unwieldy, fickle, and as unpredictable as a Reaper on Red Bull! But impressive nonetheless!
What I find most fascinating is that groups like Take Back Mass Effect are so quickly organized (before the internet these campaigned had to be created by letter-writing, phones and slow media attention sometimes taking months) that tried-and-true corporate counter-measures are simply outmaneuvered. As an old gamer, I'm in awe of the rapid deployment of market forces the internet in conjunction with 24 hour news cycle allows.
A good recent case study on this and how the tactics play out is Mr. Limbaugh's recent gaffe here in the U.S. After loosing roughly 100 sponsors, he's now on “vacation”.
And you can bet they shut down the boards temporarily because someone just turned this chess game onto the floor. Release a statement deflecting the source and not the content and go back into damage control mode.
Hold The Line
You should have your own thread
die-yng wrote...
VvAndromedavV wrote...
Would Shepard curl up into a little ball and cry herself to sleep? Because that's kind of what I feel like doing at this point.
And somehow that doesn't seem very Shepard.
You are not allowed to do that, soldier! Get your lazy behind of the ground and hold the line!!!
I really understand you, I'v e been up for 39 hours straight, because I played until the morning and couldn't find any sleep after seeing the ending.
I have never before been so shaken by a game's ending,
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